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5641  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 30, 2015, 05:23:57 PM
Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.




This thread was created as a 'mirror' to that one:

why people hate islam:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776096.0


If you want to know what the point was all about read post #2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg9799830#msg9799830


 Cool





Yes, it's just evolved into 88 pages of FUN because internet.



And so far much of the participation is about everything else but the core problem addressed in post #2.


...



"Fascinating..."




5642  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 30, 2015, 05:15:37 PM


I am here to just say one thing? Why do YOU hate people? and you should really give a valid reason not a shitty one that says 'Because Jews, Because Christians, Because Atheists'
and Yes, I am a people's person for those who ask, just tell me, come out of your shell and say why you HATE people like myself, and I could be here to clarify things to you, or not...
Also here is something that most muslims mistake about people's person like me is that "Christianity or Buddhism hate other religions" for this I say, Christianity or Buddhism does not hate ANY religion, but they suggest to 'invite' them to Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism, as slowly, and peacefully, even if they refuse, you can try and try, until it's their choice, you stop. and for all the wars that happened, it's because this other religion decided to come into war on Christianity or Buddhism or Judaism.

If you need anything clarified, I may not be here to answer you, don't be scared, I won't be offended by anyone, also haters, you can reply, I won't care Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Wink Cheesy



In other news ->



Religious activities depend HUGELY on the INTERPRETATION of the reader. So, Islam or Christianity or Buddhism teach whatever you interpret out of the words.
Think about it with an open mind, there's no harm in trying to understand Smiley


How can you have an open mind when you read post #2? Is there a way to justify it and make a logical sense of it?


5643  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Banker jumps to his death from luxury apartment on: May 29, 2015, 07:44:46 PM

Sources said the young banker had made several attempts to kill himself earlier in the morning, including cutting his wrists, before making the plunge.


I just wondering how hard the problem was faced by him so he tried to kill himself many times. Or maybe he got a problem and the solution is be killed or kill himself.


People jumping to their death without any regards to whom they may hurt on their way down are selfish.


5644  Other / Politics & Society / Banker jumps to his death from luxury apartment on: May 29, 2015, 04:27:23 PM



An investment banker jumped to his death from the window of his million-dollar apartment in the Financial District on Thursday, sources and authorities said.

The 29-year-old man plunged from the 24th floor of the luxury Ocean apartment building at 1 West St. at about 10:40 a.m. and landed on a guardrail near the northbound Battery Park Underpass, narrowly missing a black SUV.

The man’s body was mangled by the impact, leaving one of the vehicle’s passengers horrified, witnesses said.
“I went outside, and the woman in the car was screaming, ‘I didn’t know where he came from!’ ” said Hans Peler, 48, a manager at the building’s parking garage.

“It happened right in front of our guy who waves cars in with the flag. He was so shaken up, I told him to go home.”
The gruesome aftermath sent tourists on an open-air bus that was stuck in traffic scrambling for their cellphones to snap pictures of the body, said workers at the building.

“The head hit the railing . . . Half his head is on one side of the railing, half on the other,” recalled Frank Rodriguez, 44, a handyman who was working nearby. “It’s never worth this . . . Life is too precious.”

Sources said the young banker had made several attempts to kill himself earlier in the morning, including cutting his wrists, before making the plunge.

The man — whom police did not immediately identify — was from a wealthy family in Westchester County, sources said.
He had apparently become very successful on his own.

He owned his apartment in the 36-story Ocean complex, which overlooks The Battery and New York Harbor, and had just returned from a vacation in the Bahamas, sources said.


http://nypost.com/2015/05/28/man-falls-to-death-outside-luxury-building/


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Wasn't there an old thread about bankers dying? I am too lazy to find it.


5645  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Study: Everyone hates environmentalists and feminists on: May 29, 2015, 03:01:40 PM



Feminists upset over statue of man and woman talking






Scene: You’re a woman, sitting on a bench reading a book. Your male friend sees you on the quad and comes over to say hello and talk. You put down your book, lean back against the bench and smile. He doesn’t sit next to you; instead, he puts his foot on the bench and leans over his knee.

So sexist, right?

That scene is depicted in a statue at the University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio, Texas, and despite no sign of distress or physical assertion, some women have decided it is a statue of “mansplaining” — a term used to describe men condescendingly explaining something to a woman.


Seriously. Here’s the actual statue and the claim of misogyny:




…. For its part, the university also denied any notion that the statue depicts condescension toward a woman.

“The statue has long-symbolized the friendship and camaraderie that develops among students as they attend UIW,” school spokesman Carl Myers told WITW. “We are deeply saddened that this image of friendship has been misconstrued as a symbol of sexism on social media. Nothing could be further from the truth.”

But who cares what reasonable people would think the statue depicts, this is patriarchy we're talking about!

"I feel like we've all been guilty of [mansplaining], males and females alike," said Hernandez, the woman who took the original photo of the statue. "But it's just less palatable when a guy's up to it 'cause, well, he's still on the right side of oppression."

Note to future sculptors: When trying to show men and women talking as friends, don't. There's just no way you can do so without offending modern feminist sensibilities.





http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/feminists-upset-over-statue-of-man-and-woman-talking/article/2565164




5646  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Palmyra presents a new twist: First Syrian city the group has taken from Government on: May 29, 2015, 02:07:16 PM
Extreme Islamic groups have destroyed historic monuments before in Mali and Afghanistan, I don't see any great reason why they would do otherwise in Palmyra.

Right now, they are delaying the destruction of the Palmyra artifacts, as they have received a lot of negative publicity when they did the same in Nimrud. I haven't heard about the incident in Mali, but I remember the destruction of the Bamiyan Buddha in Afghanistan. What happened in Mali? Is the ISIS active in Mali as well?

it seems that local governments don't care enough to stop ISIS either, otherwise they would be moved back in short order.

The Syrian government under Bashar al Assad have been fighting these monsters for more than four years now. But the Syrian army is no match for the ISIS, which is funded by the Qatari and Saudi oil money.



ISIS 'destroys' famous lion god statue in captured Syrian city of Palmyra... just days after promising locals they would not obliterate ancient monuments


1,900-year-old Lion of Al-Lat statue was reportedly one of the first targets



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3101031/ISIS-destroys-famous-lion-god-statue-captured-Syrian-city-just-days-promising-locals-not-obliterate-Palmyra-s-ancient-monuments.html



5647  Other / Politics & Society / Re: McDonald’s Is Days From Opening Restaurant Run Entirely By Robots on: May 29, 2015, 02:02:15 PM

*lol* Right... and posted by a robot. Tongue

But i doubt it will work to buy a robot that works for you. If you can buy that robot then companies could buy masses of them for a way cheaper price. They could then do the work your robot could do for you and you couldnt earn money with your robot. The only way to earn money then would be to make the work that robots cant do.


Yeah but the companies need expensive investment if they want a bunch of robots with the most sophisticated technology. And maybe the robot couldn't clean itself so you need to do that. Or the company will buy new robots if the old robot is old fashioned. So, the company still earn money with their robots.

I guess it will be similar to asic miner development companies. They can mine themselve, or make a quick buck by selling the miners. Cloud roboting might be the next step.  Tongue

But youre right, there will always be jobs that only humans can do.


Cloud roboting + asic mining = proof of work at Mc Donalds = free burgers for bitcoin owners...






Again bitcoiners are ahead of time and predict the future. Now to think about how to exploit that.  Cheesy


The future is upon us. We demand free burgers from our hard working robots slaved to our blockchain...


5648  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 29, 2015, 01:56:35 PM
Too many words to read from beginning, but the title took my attention.

"Why do islam hates people? "

Why is that?

Who said islam hates people?  People hates people!

Sorry if you all answer this and I come late, but I do not get why people are always generalised.

Christianity does not hates people?

How many there are victims killed and tortured by Christians in last 1K years just because they were different religion, skin colour or beliefs.

And again, that has nothing to do with Christianity itself but with the people on leading positions, who interpret the holy books in a way that they like.




This thread was created as a 'mirror' to that one:

why people hate islam:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776096.0


If you want to know what the point was all about read post #2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=888757.msg9799830#msg9799830


 Cool



5649  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 29, 2015, 01:51:39 PM

Surely this doesn't come as a surprise to you or anyone else who's been an observer recently.





The Age Of Disinformation




I have been a professional meteorologist for 36 years. Since my debut on television in 1979, I have been an eyewitness to the many changes in technology, society, and how we communicate. I am one who embraces change, and celebrates the higher quality of life we enjoy now thanks to this progress.

But, at the same time, I realize the instant communication platforms we enjoy now do have some negatives that are troubling. Just a few examples in recent days…

I would say hundreds of people have sent this image to me over the past 24 hours via social media.






Comments are attached… like “This is a cloud never seen before in the U.S.”… “can’t you see this is due to government manipulation of the weather from chemtrails”… “no doubt this is a sign of the end of the age”.

Let’s get real. This is a lenticular cloud. They have always been around, and quite frankly aren’t that unusual (although it is an anomaly to see one away from a mountain range). The one thing that is different today is that almost everyone has a camera phone, and almost everyone shares pictures of weather events. You didn’t see these often in earlier decades because technology didn’t allow it. Lenticular clouds are nothing new. But, yes, they are cool to see.

No doubt national news media outlets are out of control when it comes to weather coverage, and their idiotic claims find their way to us on a daily basis.

The Houston flooding is a great example. We are being told this is “unprecedented”… Houston is “under water”… and it is due to manmade global warming.

Yes, the flooding in Houston yesterday was severe, and a serious threat to life and property. A genuine weather disaster that has brought on suffering.

But, no, this was not “unprecedented”. Flooding from Tropical Storm Allison in 2001 was more widespread, and flood waters were deeper. There is no comparison. In fact, many circulated this image in recent days, claiming it is “Houston underwater” from the flooding of May 25–26, 2015. The truth is that this image was captured in June 2001 during flooding from Allison.








Flood events in 2009, 2006, 1998, 1994, 1989, 1983, and 1979 brought higher water levels to most of Houston, and there were many very serious flood events before the 1970s.

On the other issue, the entire climate change situation has become politicized, which I hate. Those on the right, and those on the left hang out in “echo chambers”, listening to those with similar world views refusing to believe anything else could be true.

Everyone knows the climate is changing; it always has, and always will. I do not know of a single “climate denier”. I am still waiting to meet one.

The debate involves the anthropogenic impact, and this is not why I am writing this piece. Let’s just say the Houston flood this week is weather, and not climate, and leave it at that.

I do encourage you to listen to the opposing point of view in the climate debate, but be sure the person you hear admits they can be wrong, and has no financial interest in the issue. Unfortunately, those kind of qualified people are very hard to find these days. It is also hard to find people that discss climate without using the words “neocon” and “libtard”. I honestly can’t stand politics; it is tearing this nation apart.

Back to my point… many professional meteorologists feel like we are fighting a losing battle when it comes to national media and social media hype and disinformation. They will be sure to let you know that weather events they are reporting on are “unprecedented”, there are “millions and millions in the path”, it is caused by a “monster storm”, and “the worst is yet to come” since these events are becoming more “frequent”.

You will never hear about the low tornado count in recent years, the lack of major hurricane landfalls on U.S. coasts over the past 10 years, or the low number of wildfires this year. It doesn’t fit their story. But, never let facts get in the way of a good story…. there will ALWAYS be a heat wave, flood, wildfire, tornado, tyhpoon, cold wave, and snow storm somewhere. And, trust me, they will find them, and it will probably lead their newscasts. But, users beware…



James Spann
AMS certified meteorologist in the media. Host of WeatherBrains.



https://medium.com/@spann/the-age-of-disinformation-98d55837d7d9



5650  Other / Politics & Society / Re: McDonald’s Is Days From Opening Restaurant Run Entirely By Robots on: May 29, 2015, 01:42:38 PM

*lol* Right... and posted by a robot. Tongue

But i doubt it will work to buy a robot that works for you. If you can buy that robot then companies could buy masses of them for a way cheaper price. They could then do the work your robot could do for you and you couldnt earn money with your robot. The only way to earn money then would be to make the work that robots cant do.


Yeah but the companies need expensive investment if they want a bunch of robots with the most sophisticated technology. And maybe the robot couldn't clean itself so you need to do that. Or the company will buy new robots if the old robot is old fashioned. So, the company still earn money with their robots.

I guess it will be similar to asic miner development companies. They can mine themselve, or make a quick buck by selling the miners. Cloud roboting might be the next step.  Tongue

But youre right, there will always be jobs that only humans can do.


Cloud roboting + asic mining = proof of work at Mc Donalds = free burgers for bitcoin owners...




5651  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 29, 2015, 12:09:58 AM



MSNBC, HuffPo, Other Media Link Texas Floods to Climate Change



Despite media denials that “specific weather events” can be linked to overall climate patterns, that is exactly what several major news outlets have done in the wake of deadly floods in Texas.

MSNBC, Huffington Post, The Dallas Morning News and other media have suggested global warming played a role in the torrential rain and consequent, deadly flooding in Texas during Memorial Day weekend. A year earlier many were blaming Texas’ drought on global warming.

MSNBC host Chris Matthews made this link during Hardball With Chris Matthews May 26. He cited the National Climate Assessment, claiming that “climate change contributes to harsh climate conditions like the flooding in Texas and drought in California happening right now.”

He failed to admit that the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) released a report in December 2014 that said the opposite regarding global warming and droughts in California. The report instead attributed the drought primarily to a La Nina weather pattern.

Matthews also interviewed Columbia University Earth Institute Director Jeffrey Sachs, a man-made global warming alarmist. He said that “underlying warming of the sea surface and the land” led to “tragedies” like the flooding in Texas.

Sachs is a long-time crony of left-wing billionaire George Soros. His “Millennium Village Project” received $50 million from Soros in 2008. Soros pledged in 2011 to contribute an additional $27 million during the next five years.



http://newsbusters.org/blogs/joseph-rossell/2015/05/28/msnbc-huffpo-other-media-link-texas-floods-climate-change



5652  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 29, 2015, 12:07:29 AM



Obama: “Best Climate Scientists” Link Hurricanes To Climate Change



President Obama said Thursday the link between more extreme weather and climate change is undeniable and that the world’s best scientists have made a conclusive connection.

Rising sea levels are another consequence of climate change and can make extreme weather even worse, Obama said at the National Hurricane Center following a tour.

“The best climate scientists in the world are telling us that extreme weather events like hurricanes are likely to become more powerful. When you combine stronger storms with rising seas, that’s a recipe for more devastating floods,” he said.

Obama’s remarks came during a visit to the center, whose meterologists are predicting a “below-normal” Atlantic Ocean hurricane season, with three to six storms likely.



http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/243332-obama-best-climate-scientists-link-hurricanes-climate-change



5653  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: May 29, 2015, 12:02:02 AM



Arizona State Has Doubled Tuition On Students, While Still Managing To Give $500,000 To Clinton Foundation






While Arizona State University has almost doubled its tuition over the past 10 years amid claims that it needs more state money, the school somehow had the funds to give half a million dollars to the Clinton Foundation.

According to The Arizona Republic, the public university paid $500,000 to the Clinton Foundation to host the former president-Bill Clinton; former-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton; and their daughter, Chelsea, during a Clinton Global Initiative University (CGI U) event in 2014. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Bill’s wife, is the current front-runner for the Democratic nomination for the 2016 presidential race.




http://campusreform.org/?ID=6534



5654  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: May 28, 2015, 11:57:30 PM



Did Clinton ask Blumenthal to look for information about Libya?



ProPublica and Gawker uncovered a secret intelligence network that was feeding unsubstantiated intelligence to Hillary’s private email server. The network included former Clinton aide Sidney Blumenthal who was prevented from taking a job at State in 2009 by the Obama White House. Mr. Blumenthal had circulated some “unflattering” stories about the president during the 2008 campaign.

We also know that Mrs. Clinton used two separate email addresses (hdr22@clintonemail.com and hrod17@clintonemail.com) while she was at the State Department. Clinton’s legal team asserted that the latter address did not exist during her tenure as our top diplomat. When the initial reports of the secret intelligence network came to light, we did not know if Hillary read or even corresponded with Blumenthal’s emails. Now, it looks as if she did read them, and even forwarded a few to a State Department staffer.

Last week, in Iowa, Mrs. Clinton said the Blumenthal emails were “unsolicited” (via Politico):



Clinton downplayed Blumenthal’s influence in answers to reporters’ questions this week in Iowa, describing the emails as useful to ensure that she wasn’t “caught in a bubble” with information coming only “from a certain small group of people.”

“He sent me unsolicited emails which I passed on in some instances, and I say that that’s just part of the give and take,” Clinton said Tuesday.

“I have many, many old friends and I always think that it’s important when you get into politics to have friends you had before you were in politics and to understand what’s on their minds,” she said. “And he’s been a friend of mine for a long time.”



Now, the Washington Post’s David Ignatius wrote that someone told him that Blumenthal approached a former CIA officer, Tyler Drumheller, and said to him that “his friend Clinton” was “looking for information” on Libya


Blumenthal’s missives on Libya appear to be mostly repackaged information from a former CIA officer named Tyler Drumheller , who is now part of Alphom Group, one of the many consulting firms in Washington that employ former spooks to harvest their old contacts for salable information. A principal of Alphom told me that Blumenthal had approached Drumheller and said his friend Clinton was “looking for information” about Libya.



Drumheller was named as someone who collected the intelligence and prepared the reports when the initial ProPublica/Gawker story broke. Yet, this nugget comes from one person at this consulting firm. If this is corroborated, it just added another notch regarding Clinton’s lack of transparency and secretiveness that confirms old biases people have against the Clintons. She’s turning into the most flawed of flawed candidates. Moreover, it could undercut any attempt to highlight her tenure at State. Such back-door communications have happened before, and often led to bad policy:


Michael Morell, a former deputy director of the CIA and author of “The Great War of Our Time,” says that Blumenthal’s missives never came to the attention of senior agency personnel and never got into the paper flow of the National Security Council. That’s good, given that it was the CIA’s job to report on Libya, for real.

But the Blumenthal papers were taken seriously at State. Clinton sent them on to her overworked aide, Jake Sullivan, with such notations as “Useful insight, pls circulate,” or “very interesting,” or, in one instance, “We should get this around asap.”



These memos recall other dubious back channels involving oil-rich Middle East nations. Libya snared President Jimmy Carter’s brother, Billy, as an emissary in the late-1970s. The Iran-contra scandal began in 1985 with an Iranian information peddler named Manucher Ghorbanifar, whom the CIA dubbed a “fabricator” but the White House embraced, anyway.

The danger of Washington’s courtier ethos is that it can lead to bad policy, or no policy. You can’t escape the feeling that Clinton and her aides were passing around Blumenthal’s e-mails when they should have been framing a better plan to deal with Libya’s disintegration.




We shall see what happens regarding Ignatius’ Alphom source. In the meantime, it should come to no one’s surprise that Mr. Blumenthal has been subpoenaed by the House Select Committee on Benghazi regarding these communications.  As Ed wrote earlier today, Blumenthal was also paid $10,000 per month by the Clinton Foundation while on this little mission.


http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/28/did-clinton-ask-blumenthal-to-look-for-information-about-libya/


5655  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 28, 2015, 11:22:02 PM
Shia is not muslim?

That's news to me.

if you ask all muslim who is their last prophet they will say : Muhammad (pbuh)
if you ask any Shia who their last prophet is they will say Ali (pbuh)
if you ask Khajani's who their last prophet is they will say Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Khajjani

there are about 72 sects in Islam, all created by people  from different regions but comes to the same point, there were 144,000 approx prophets who came to earth, the last one is Muhammad (pbuh) and Allah is the sole God.

shia, khajanis, deobandis, koja, they are not believers of Islam, since they dont read the Quraan itself but some other books.
Well, peace be unto you, zeeshsnrehman2.

That is remarkably similar to the fashion in which various Christian sects will argue that Catholicism is not Christianity, because "the last prophet" would be the current Pope.  I'm simplifying a bit, but it is essentially the same.

As an atheist, I have a somewhat detached view of these ideas.  So you won't find me arguing that shia is or is not Islam and the like.  I guess I'd view Islam as a very broad phenomena, incorporating many with different ideas - if you wanted my point of view.  Anyway, from that perspective, Shia would certainly be included.

This is not very different from saying that the Western world has a "Judeo-Christian" basis.  It does not mean any particular sect, just that those broad ideas are at the basis of morality, ethics, justice and permeate popular culture.

Similarly, I do think we could talk about an "Islamic worldview" or an "Islamic culture."  But that's just my view, there is certainly no need for you to adopt it.

no no shia is not a sect within islam, it goes very different from the fundamentals of islam. they dont follow the religion at all. they have a different one actually. but yes, i do agree with your point. everybody has their own point of view on various subject.

Tell you what.  Since not just you but various others do want to debate "What is Islam", excluding from it various "Not True Islam" here is what I will do.  I will use the definition of Islam as asserted by Wikipedia.

This includes Sunni, Shia, Sufism, Ahmadiyya , Non-denominational Muslims, Ibadi, Mahdavia, Quranists, Yazdânism and  black Muslim movements.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#Denominations

Obviously, this does include the various radical violent sects including Al Queda and ISIS.  But to distinguish them I will refer to them as "Radical Jihad Muslim/Islam."






You shall now await the blessing of imam bruce lee and see if he agrees on those terms...

 Cool


5656  Other / Politics & Society / Re: McDonald’s Is Days From Opening Restaurant Run Entirely By Robots on: May 28, 2015, 08:59:27 PM



Damaged Robot Can 'Heal' Itself in Less Than 2 Minutes






Robots that are damaged in action can now quickly "heal" themselves by tapping into experiences from simulated lives, according to a new study. It may sound like science fiction, but these abilities could lead to more robust, effective and autonomous robots, researchers say.

In experiments, a six-legged robot could adapt in little more than a minute to keep walking even if two of its legs were damaged, broken or missing. A robotic arm could also learn to place an object in the correct place even with several broken motors or joints.

"One thing we were surprised by was the extent of damage to which the robots could quickly adapt to," study co-author Jean-Baptiste Mouret, a roboticist at Pierre and Marie Curie University, in Paris, told Live Science. "We subjected these robots to all sorts of abuse, and they always found a way to keep working."


Adaptable bots

Robots can survive extreme environments such as the deepest depths of the ocean or the harsh vacuum of outer space. However, a major obstacle that has kept robots from widespread adoption outside factories is their lack of adaptability — they typically cannot keep working if they become damaged.

In contrast, animals often can adapt rapidly from injuries. For instance, many three-legged dogs can catch Frisbees, and humans can often quickly figure out how to walk despite sprained ankles or other injuries.

"If we send in robots to find survivors after an earthquake, or to put our forest fires, or to shut down a nuclear plant in crisis like Fukushima, we need them to be able to keep working if they become damaged," Mouret said. "In such situations, every second counts, and robots are likely to become damaged because these environments are very unpredictable and hostile. Even in less extreme cases, such as in-home robot assistants that help the elderly or sick, we want robots to keep performing their important tasks even if some of their parts break."

Until now, robots typically recovered from damage by first diagnosing their problems and then choosing which contingency plan to follow. However, even if a robot possesses an expensive suite of sensors with which it can diagnose itself, it will be rendered helpless if its designer failed to foresee whatever problem the robot is facing.

In comparison, injured animals rely on trial and error to learn how to overcome adversity — for instance, learning that limping could minimize pain in the leg. Although scientists have experimented with trial-and-error programming for robots, it could take 15 minutes or more for such robots to overcome even relatively simple problems.

Now scientists have developed a trial-and-error program that enables robots to adapt to damage in less than two minutes, all without a suite of sensors to diagnose itself or a host of contingency plans.

"The most important application of these findings is to have robots that can be useful for long periods of time without requiring humans to perform constant maintenance," Mouret said.

Learning from experience

The scientists reasoned that animals do not learn how to recover from injuries from scratch. "Instead, they have intuitions about different ways to behave," Mouret said in a statement. "These intuitions allow them to intelligently select a few, different behaviors to try out and, after these tests, they choose one that works in spite of the injury. We made robots that can do the same."

In this new strategy, before a robot is deployed, the scientists develop a computer simulation to map out thousands of different motions it can take, and predict which patterns of actions are likely to work despite damage. This simulated lifetime of experiences serves as the collection of intuitions the robot can draw from. [The 6 Strangest Robots Ever Created]

"We do not pre-compute anything like 'find a gait that works if a leg is missing,'" Mouret said. "What we do with the simulator is simply to say 'find as many different ways to walk as you can.'"

When the robot faces a real injury, it can draw on these intuitions to guide trial-and error experiments intended to find a way to compensate for any damage.

"Once damaged, the robot becomes like a scientist," study lead author Antoine Cully, a roboticist at Pierre and Marie Curie University, said in a statement. "It has prior expectations about different behaviors that might work, and begins testing them. However, these predictions come from the simulated, undamaged robot. It has to find out which of them work, not only in reality, but given the damage."

The robot can effectively experiment with different behaviors and rule out ones that don't work, Cully said.

"For example, if walking, mostly on its hind legs, does not work well, it will try walking mostly on its front legs," he added. "What's surprising is how quickly it can learn a new way to walk. It's amazing to watch a robot go from crippled and flailing around to efficiently limping away in about two minutes."

Real-world uses

The researchers suggest this strategy could help robots adapt to unforeseen circumstances and new environments. "Our approach can work with any robot," Mouret said.

Some potential applications include "robots that can help rescuers without requiring their continuous attention," study co-author Danesh Tarapore, a roboticist at Pierre and Marie Curie University, said in a statement. "It also makes easier the creation of personal robotic assistants that can continue to be helpful even when a part is broken."

Although simulating a lifetime of potential robot experiences may seem expensive, "our approach is actually very cost-effective, because it does not require complex internal sensors," Mouret said. "The robot only needs to know how well it performs its task. It does not need to know the precise reason why it cannot perform the task as expected. That allows tremendous cost savings, because a robot does not need to have a suite of expensive self-diagnosing sensors woven throughout its body."

The researchers suggest their strategy for robots has implications far beyond damage recovery.

"They could in principle be applied to having robots learn almost anything," Mouret said. "Until now, nearly all approaches for having robots learn took many hours, which is why videos of robots doing anything are often extremely sped up. Watching them learn in real-time was excruciating, much like watching grass grow. Now we can see robots learning in real-time, much like you would watch a dog or child learn a new skill. Thus, for the first time, we have robots that learn something useful after trying a few different things, just like animals and humans."

The scientists now plan to test their strategy on more advanced robots in simulated real-world situations. The researchers are interested in investigating how these abilities could help robots designed for disaster-relief purposes, Mouret said, such as the bots that are scheduled to compete in the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) Robotics Challenge, being held next month in Pomona, California.

The scientists detailed their findings in the May 28 issue of the journal Nature.


http://www.livescience.com/50988-damaged-robot-heals-itself.html




wow maybe in future humans just eat, sleep, and have fun with others
just buy a robot that can handle all of our work, and leave it
if your robot is "injured", it can heal itself
what a future


Yep...




5657  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 28, 2015, 08:51:43 PM
Get me off this planet, because we have climate change zombies now
Winter is Comming...


The rape scene was not that hot. I blame global warming...


5658  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 28, 2015, 03:16:46 PM








5659  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 28, 2015, 03:11:26 PM



Arapahoe Basin extends ski season to at least June 14 after May snows


Ski season just got a little bit longer.

Arapahoe Basin announced on Wednesday that it will stay open until at least June 14 after nearly 50 inches of snow have fallen at the ski area this month.

The area initially planned to close on June 7 and is one of only three ski areas still open in North America and the only resort still open in Colorado.

Regular ski area operations will continue through June 7 and the resort will close from June 8 to 11 before reopening for the weekend on June 12.

Conditions will dictate which terrain will remain open, A-Basin says.

“With our snowy and cool spring weather, the skiing conditions are better than we have seen for years at this time in May,” Alan Henceroth, the area’s chief operating officer, said in a statement. “We will be re-opening for at least one more long weekend.”

Last season, the resort closed June 22.

The latest A-Basin has ever stayed open was August 10 in 1995.


http://www.denverpost.com/weathernews/ci_28197243/arapahoe-basin-extends-ski-season-at-least-june


5660  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: May 28, 2015, 03:08:20 PM






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Not a word for the victims from this scientist. He could not wait to play the global warming card...


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