Nisi dao definiciju ekonomske vrijednosti, nego teorijski model za određivanje cijene. Cijena je novčani iznos koji je potrebno dati da bi se nešto kupilo, dok je vrijednost korist koju kupljena stvar može ostvariti. Miješaš kruške i jabuke.
Opet radiš logičke pogreške. Mješaš definicije ekonomske vrijednosti i tržišne vrijednosti te upotrebljavaš onaj koji ti u datom trentuku bolje odgovra. Ovo što ti navodiš kao vrijednost se naziva 'utility theory of value' ili tzv. 'neoklasična ekonomija' koja je davno odbačena kao pogrešna. Prema toj teoriji se vjerovalo da se vrijednost temelji samo na tome koliko je "koristi" pojedinac primio od robe. Srećom, danas (nekih 300-tinjak godina kasnije), znamo malo više.  |
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These are all nice stories, you know. But that still says nothing about the provably fair system. It's like saying, send me your money and I'll pick a few people to share the spoils with. Hi it's hard to prove, the scheme is logical, the algorithm chooses, not me , therefore, ten people are needed to prove otherwise how can I do it , you want, I will send you the source code for the algorithm , I don't force anyone to play everybody will do as he thinks Knowledge is the virtue, you know? First, research what provably fair means. You have a lot of information on this topic on bitcointalk as well. Then, you will realize that this rambling of yours makes no sense. EDIT: Here are some topics that might be of interest to you: Why YOU should really care about Provably Fair..."Provably Fair": How Fair & Provable is it? What is a "Provably Fair" and How does it work? |
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These are all nice stories, you know. But that still says nothing about the provably fair system. It's like saying, send me your money and I'll pick a few people to share the spoils with. |
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This is most likely his old account: fxsurfer (also banned for spamming, trolling or whatever). Of course it is him, I would highly advise everyone to put OP on ignore, he is bloody troll who is calling bitcoin a scam on various crypto forums for last several years, just google this site https://btcprevara.wordpress.com/ and you will see fudster shitting against bitcoin everywhere. Whatever You say it doesn't really matter, he will just call it "ad hominem", "no valid argument", "trolling" and continue with his "bitcoin is number in spreadsheet", "banana is worth more than bitcoin" thingy. I'm really intrigued on what's his motivation to make literally a 147 posts attacking bitcoin on a public forum from which he gains nothing o.o That's not even close. As far as I know, he was very active in many Croatian forums, too. Not to mention comments on various news portals ... Maybe he's trying to collapse the price of BTC with his FUD so he can get into the 'scheme' too? |
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That's right, this is not a gambling site, this is just one game
Nevertheless, you should still make the game provably fair from a technical standpoint. No one in their right minds would blindly believe on your word that the game is not rigged. |
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I was sure the internet has something appropriate for the occasion.  Thanks to DjMethod from imgur.com |
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Don't feed the trolls, guys! This smartass pops up every now and then with his FUD about the 'worthlessness' of Bitcoin. He shits on almost every forum on the Croatian Bitcoin scene (btw, he's banned on almost every one of them) and also on bitcointalk at the Croatian Local Board. This is most likely his old account: fxsurfer (also banned for spamming, trolling or whatever). Fun fact: The last time (March, 2019) when he made all his wisecracks, Bitcoin entered the mini-bullrun phase and jumped more than 20%. So maybe this is an indication of something good? |
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I have tried one a long time ago. In crypto-games.net I think 2017? I can't really remember exactly when. It's a rough investment for me because it has a lot of downs in the first days but things went good in a month long run.
All I can say is it is indeed worth it if you'll be working in a good gambling site, don't expect for a fix roi since investments on gambling sites is depending on how the users win and lose in the site.
Yes, it is good to invest in gaming sires but the same as all other investments we should remain careful while investing and try not to invest so much if you can't afford to lose in gaming. There are so many scamming sites so make proper research about the website before you are investing with and never give up on that try your luck with small investment first. Crypto-games.net and YOLOdice had good investment programs with solid ROI and also reputable sites. Too bad YOLO closed that option now. What about Crypto-games.net? Is their investment program still active? Does anyone know what the average income is? |
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The only people who have gotten rich in gambling are the casino owners. Very very few people can actually make themselves rich with a constant gambling addiction. However, they aren't like the average gambler, they know how their addiction is harmful to them and take controlling measures like psychological control training and fixed deposit direct debit methods to control their spendings and savings.
I agree those casino owner are one who become rich even morw because many player lose everyday, but those players become rich are the professional gambler and have a lot money to gamble but they not telling it to others they still become humble all the time which for me its good because I think there's no point to tell to somebody that youre rich, if you really want to help them then teach them the proper way to manage money than being boastful. I think being humble is not the main reason why they are not telling others that they earned a lot of money by playing gambling but the greatest factor of it is their security. They might be targetted by somebody knowing they are holding such a big gambling profit. If a certain gambler want's to make himself famous for his wins, telling people on the wins he got from the gambling site will make him a bit popular but the risk on his life will be high, The reason why lotto winners aren't told to the public is because of security matter. Probably for the same reason why most jackpot lottery winners choose to remain anonymous. I can only imagine how many leeches would gather around me and my family. The problem is, how to spend so much money without the neighbourhood noticing? Perhaps the best solution is to move to a new surroundings and forsake all your relatives and old friends. |
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Cool! Sviđa mi se. Jednostavno i praktično. Ide u bookmark... BTW, Nikada prije nisam čuo za Nimq  |
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First of all, learn how to quote. Your responses are just as sloppy as your ANN post. My feedback:
- The way you introduced the site is already enough reason why people should stay away from it. That's not the professional way of introducing a gambling site. Did you see a reputable gambling site owner today that shares their sentiments about their gambling experience in the past? Also, only those who have a plan of exiting someday do have a welcome note of "this is not a scam".
First of all, I wasn't cheated in gambling only on all current hyip sites do you know a professional way to introduce a gambling site  without any lies or stretches I am not yet a reputable owner, I am just fighting for my reputation do you think that honesty with people is a defect of humanity You can't fight for reputation. Reputation must be earned. And as for the professional way of introducing a gambling site, look at how others did before you. The way you do it looks like a quick money grab scheme. - Second, you question the legality and you don't honestly care for it. Did you really think people will just throw away their money on a site like that?
please specify, why I don't care about legality , please indicate the order that a site that doesn't use normal money or valuable items, must have a gambling license Do your own research. Running an unlicensed casino is a pretty serious thing. Yeah, sure. - Prove fairness of 70% 80% 90% additional winning for those who will win the respective draws.
I can't do this without active players Wrong. Proving fairness has nothing to do with active players. - Prove you have decent funds
I'd have to show you my wallet status , I doubt anyone would do that That's exactly what you should do. Signed wallet with proof that you have the means to pay the lucky winners. - And Gmail.com as your email domain?
does it matter where the mail is received ?? No. But professionalism and transparency are. |
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This is a pretty neat excuse for Coinbase to ignore lightning networks, that's if they ever actually get anywhere. They can say there's no reason to bother with it when they have a card that can plug in to the existing system.
That may be true, but I think there is still plenty of room for LN as a better alternative. Coinbase fees will likely be incomparable with lightning network. |
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We have to get services to accept bitcoin directly. I mean, if we're willing to give our identity away (KYC) and pay high fees (comparing debit cards to crypto), then why use bitcoin in the first place? Personally, I don't see this helping bitcoin in any way.
I agree--there's no anonymity and I don't think there's any advantage to this service that Visa is offering. It's basically just a way for Visa (and probably Coinbase as well) to extract fees from their customers. Same old story that's been going on since the beginning of credit cards, right? Nice to see bitcoin gaining wider adoption--or possibly doing so--but I'm not sure this is going to catch on. And I also agree that it would be so much better if merchants took bitcoin directly, but there's an obvious volatility risk involved, and I can understand why they wouldn't want to do that. Even payment processors only convert bitcoin to fiat, which is what the merchant receives. If I'm not mistaken, there are a few businesses that take crypto directly. Overstock, Veldt Gold, and Protonmail are three of those, though I'm not sure if any of them still receive crypto directly. Because at times KYC does not matter and having a hold over a merchant is good. Using a CC a times with an online vendor you do not 100% trust is not a bad thing. If you are ordering something they know where you live anyway. Most of the time yeah, paying with BTC is better. Sometimes other ways are better. Also a CC is useful for other things. (Hotel reservations / car rental / etc.) -Dave That's true. As for businesses, bitcoin is still too risky and there are still plenty of online merchants who are not ready to accept Bitcoin. Having a Visa prepaid card linked to instant crypto to fiat conversion gives you almost unlimited possibilities for online shopping. So, I think Coinbase is on the right track, but there is a lot more that needs to be done to get to the point where Bitcoin is easy to use in everyday life. |
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I just got into the signature campaign so I can't say I'm spending the money I gain on gambling (yet). But yes, I do gamble. Sometimes on a platform I promote sometimes on some other platforms. It varies depending on my interest, but I like to gamble on dice games and some sports betting as well.
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Blockchain je baza podataka. U bazi su alfanumerički unosi. To nema veze sa financijama. To je informatika.
Što je odbačeno u 18.st.? Da se brojevi ne mogu jesti i piti? Da brojevi ne mogu raditi frizure? Daj pobogu reci nešto konkretno. Iznosiš prazne generičke navode. Jesi uopće sposoban razmišljati vlastitim glavom? Pusti teorije, to su samo tuđe misli. Izreci svoje misli i argumentiraj ih konkretnim, praktičnim primjerima. Imam osjećaj kao da raspravljam s lignjama i gramofonskim pločama.
Vrijeđanje i omalovažavanje sugovornika je znak psihičke slabosti i vlastite nesigurnosti i ne doprinosi konstruktivnoj diskusiji. Kao što rekoh, informiraj se i pročitaj nešto. Možda će ti tada biti jasnije o čemu govorim. Do tada, 'have a peachy day' ! |
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Čitam i ne vjerujem... zar je moguće da netko može biti tako neoprezan sa 45 mil USD ?! Ako su informacije točne, krađa je napravljena s običnim SIM hack-om. Pa, dovraga, tko još drži 45 mil USD na svojem telefonu? Kada se još uzme u obizir da se, kako izgleda, radi o poznatom 'sigurnosnom stručnjaku' i osnivaču DreamHost-a, Josh Jones-u... stvarno mi nije jasno. |
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Reći da je Zemlja okrugla nije mišljenje nego činjenica. Ja se uvijek i isključivo bavim činjenicama. One vrijede za sve. I opet iznosiš netočne i neargumentirane izjave. Činjenica je ono što se može neupitno i nepobitno ustanoviti. Prilikom utvrđivanja činjenice nužan je objektivan pristup, koji u znanosti mora biti potkrijepljen egzaktnim dokazom.
U filozofiji, nužna je racionalna metoda, uz nepristrano preispitivanje, bez uplitanja vjerovanja. U utvrđivanju činjenica, ne smije se miješati osobni stav ili bilo koja predrasuda. To što ti pričaš nema veze s činjenicama. To su tvoje fantazije o vrijednosti. Izgleda da imaš problema sa razumijevanjem pročitanog pa ću ti ponoviti moju izjavu: "Činjenica je da blockchain predstavlja potpuno nov i drugačiji način obrade financijskih transakcija i da se Bitcoin mreža danas smatra najsigurnijim sustavom na svijetu."Objasni koji dio ove izjave ti je sporan? Nadalje opet ponavljaš svoje sofizme generaliziranja i cirkularnog argumentiranja pa se na taj dio neću referirati. Ponovit ću ti samo još jednom, informiraj se i nauči nešto o različitim teorijama vrijednosti pa se nakon toga vrati ovdje ako želiš nastaviti argumentiranu raspravu. Tvoja premisa se bazira na tzv. "utility theory of value" koja je odbačena još u 18. stoljeću (poznati dijamant-voda paradoks). |
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Dokaze da je bitcoin bezvrijedan sam iznio. Dokaz da se bitcoin prodaje pod nazivom novac je općepoznat. Dokaz da je novac uvijek bio ono što ljudima donosi direktnu korist(roba) ili naplatu u budućnosti (naplatni financijski instrument) je nepotreban jer je to činjenica. Dokaz da je bitcoin broj je isto nepotreban jer je to općepoznata činjenica. Prodavati masi brojeve pod novac je dovođenje javnosti u zabludu, tj. prevara. Ljudi se odriču vrijednih roba/usluga i naplatnih instrumenata rukovođeni dugom povijesnom konotacijom pojma novac, nesvjesni da zauzvrat primaju bezvrijedne matematičke apstrakcije.
Ono što si ti iznio nije dokaz već tvoje mišljenje ili zaključak koji je nevaljan. Bitcoin nije novac i po tome se vidi da nisi dovoljno upućen u tematiku. Bitcoin je ideja, inovacija, izum, tehnologija, sustav... Bitcoin je samo jedan dio tog sustava, kao što su i blockchain i bitcoin mreža. Bitcoin bez blockchaina ne postoji kao što ni blockchain ne može funkcionirati bez Bitcoina i bitcoin mreže. Ti si odlučio ignorirati moje argumente kojima sam ti pokušao objasniti zašto Bitcoin ima vrijednost već si se ograničio na samo jednu definiciju vrijednosti i iz toga došao do pogrešnog zaključka. |
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Really strange decision to lock the thread in times of crisis. I understand that bitcointalk is not an official support channel, but what are they afraid of?
So what if they are under DDOS attack? This can happen to just about any service provider.
In the end, remaining professional and approachable with your clients is absolutely vital to ensuring stronger client relationships.
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Copy/pasting your own content in multiple boards is forbidden and punishable by a permanent ban as much as plagiarism. Especially when you're most likely doing it for financial gain. 12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting it in the local language boards if it's translated).
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