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5721  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much has the lock-down due to the pandemic been able to benefit you? on: April 06, 2020, 07:43:33 PM
I wouldn't say that the lock-down benefited me when it comes to crypto and this forum. I have kids at home and much less time to "foll around" than I had when I was at work. But then again, without kids I would probably be bored at home Grin

Soon you will try to sneak to office to work their in quite atmosphere, but dont do that. The probability of catching the virus is still more than 0, so better keep your guts and stay at home with a tornado of scream an laughter Cheesy

Btw, what are you doing to keep them busy?

No, I would never go to the office if I don't have to. Even if this virus is not that dangerous, I still don't mind the hurricane that I have at home Smiley

Thankfully I live in a house so it's much easier to keep them busy outside in the yard.
5722  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: April 06, 2020, 06:40:35 PM
I'd say that sports gambling really is like daytrading. With sports gambling you can read statistics, news and other stuff and choose a winning bet. But "normal" gambling (as in casino) is definitely not like daytrading. In daytrading you can still have support&resistance and bunch of other indicators that can help you to decide should you buy or sell. And what can tell you if you're gonna guess a number in roulette or 21 in blackjack?

as I said in the last post, in my opinion the most important difference between gambling and daytrade is in the fact that in day trade people have the option of using Stop-Loss which allows them to reduce losses while game of chance when the person bets Is wins or loses, there is no longer any way for the person in the middle of the game to minimize losses. when I started making sports betting that was the main difference that I realized

Well, actually there is a chance for a person who is betting on sport matches to minimize his losses. For example, if you choose 10 pairs and win 6 or 7 of them, plenty of betting sites offer to forfeit other games and collect what you won so far. I think we can compare that to a stop-loss in daytrading.

I'd say that sports gambling really is like daytrading. With sports gambling you can read statistics, news and other stuff and choose a winning bet. ~snip~
However sports gambling cannot be equated with daily trading, even if you have to look at statistics like sports gambling, because in trading you must use real analysis such as mounting indicators.  Whereas sports gambling as you mean just guesses based on historical data from previous matches.

Sports gambling is not just guessing based on historical data. Person who is betting can have info on an injury of a key player for some team. Or he can take a look at the table and see that a better team doesn't need a win and that can too be good info for betting.
5723  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: April 06, 2020, 01:32:08 PM
And compared to the crypto market, when people think there are whales who would manipulate the price, in sports gambling there are also sharks who can move the line, they also use their power because they are smart like the whales.

What do you mean by this? If you look at a football match, how can a shark "move the line"? You mean that a shark is someone who pays someone to lose the game? I know that happens but it's illegal. Whales in crypto are not illegal. They are just people with a lot of money (or crypto) that can turn the market in their advantage.
5724  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much has the lock-down due to the pandemic been able to benefit you? on: April 06, 2020, 01:12:06 PM
I wouldn't say that the lock-down benefited me when it comes to crypto and this forum. I have kids at home and much less time to "foll around" than I had when I was at work. But then again, without kids I would probably be bored at home Grin
5725  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Start with Bitcoin on: April 06, 2020, 01:06:00 PM
No, I wouldn't say it's helping beginners in crypto. Site that would help beginners in crypto should have articles about how to open a wallet, use crypto exchanges and most importantly, how to avoid getting scammed. This is just a faucet site like many others.
5726  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: April 06, 2020, 01:02:08 PM
I'd say that sports gambling really is like daytrading. With sports gambling you can read statistics, news and other stuff and choose a winning bet. But "normal" gambling (as in casino) is definitely not like daytrading. In daytrading you can still have support&resistance and bunch of other indicators that can help you to decide should you buy or sell. And what can tell you if you're gonna guess a number in roulette or 21 in blackjack?

I think I can accept this definition as well just like the day trading skills, sports gamblings need some particular knowledge to be able to predict well which team have the advantages than the other. Because when you know some news or exclusive news fro the team you are about to put your bet on, it gives you a lot of advantages whether to maximize your bet or not. I agree this two has complete similarity.
In terms of good strategy and knowledge, you can take that advantages if you have good plans ahead of your bet or your trading positions. Each time you gathered information, you'll be able to make a clearer pick and the chances of getting the right timing will be much higher.
This kind of skills are both present from trading and gambling, the capabilities to advance and use your knowledge to make sure that you have the advantages.

Yes, but not in gambling in general. In sports gambling! There is a big difference in regular gambling and sports gambling when it comes to having luck or knowledge in order to pick your winning bet. Success in regular (casino) gambling depends on luck much more than on knowledge. Don't you think?
5727  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: April 06, 2020, 12:47:10 PM
I'd say that sports gambling really is like daytrading. With sports gambling you can read statistics, news and other stuff and choose a winning bet. But "normal" gambling (as in casino) is definitely not like daytrading. In daytrading you can still have support&resistance and bunch of other indicators that can help you to decide should you buy or sell. And what can tell you if you're gonna guess a number in roulette or 21 in blackjack?

I think I can accept this definition as well just like the day trading skills, sports gamblings need some particular knowledge to be able to predict well which team have the advantages than the other. Because when you know some news or exclusive news fro the team you are about to put your bet on, it gives you a lot of advantages whether to maximize your bet or not. I agree this two has complete similarity.

Precisely. And when you have exclusive news on some project (like signing a deal with some big company like Microsoft or Google), then you have an advantage and it's easy to put your money into it.
5728  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Using Football Prediction Sites on: April 06, 2020, 11:48:10 AM
I don't think the sites that give / predict the results of football games work much, I think the best strategy is to follow the performances of the teams closely, games won, player shape, injuries...

Absolutely this. Don't trust these websites, they are absolute garbage. The best you can do is your own research. It's like always, if you prepare and do research you (might) win, if you blindly trust some random website who claims to know the final results you will lose on the long run.

If someone would know how the final result of a game is, why should this person share these essential information with the public? He could better just place some (high) bets on some games and win big himself.

Wow! Sites like these still exist? It's been years since I have seen ads for a betting tip site on Facebook. I guess they banned them. I thought that the site OP is referring to is comparing teams' stats and performances and gives recommendation based on that.
5729  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Suggestions for online gamblers on: April 06, 2020, 11:43:43 AM
All those advice look great to a person who is not addicted. But if someone is addicted to gambling, than he surely won't follow any advice. It's like telling a passionate smoker to limit the number of cigarettes per day. He will follow that limit for a certain time, but after few days he will light one more and the next day another one more and so on... A gambling addict will do the same - he will always want to gamble for one more minute because he is certain that the next one is a winning bet.
5730  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: April 06, 2020, 11:37:10 AM
I'd say that sports gambling really is like daytrading. With sports gambling you can read statistics, news and other stuff and choose a winning bet. But "normal" gambling (as in casino) is definitely not like daytrading. In daytrading you can still have support&resistance and bunch of other indicators that can help you to decide should you buy or sell. And what can tell you if you're gonna guess a number in roulette or 21 in blackjack?
5731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 21 Best Cryptocurrency to buy in 2020 on: April 06, 2020, 11:27:11 AM
I think this kind of article is helpful for those people who has enough money to invest. Investing in various altcoins which has good potentials and possibilities is absolutely a smart way and it decreases the level of loss as well but it's not affordable enough for many people that's why mostly people pick Bitcoin and Ethereum to invest in.

I don't think that people who have a lot of money to invest read articles like that. Articles like this (top XY coins to invest in 2020) read people who want to invest $100 or so and make it into $1.000 or $10.000. Of course, investing like that they will end up losing their money to a scam projects. A year ago I would say that and top 100 CMC coin/token is worth investing, but even some of top 100 projects turned out to be scams. Now I'd say that top 10 CMC projects are relatively safe to invest. Anything else is gambling.
5732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Scammers don't trap victims with too good offers anymore on: April 06, 2020, 11:16:58 AM
I think that one of the biggest problems with crypto mass adoption is a lot of scam projects. When someone asks me about crypto, I always warn him/her about scammers and that he/she should trust no one.
For example, there was a mixer project that seemed legit. Everything worked great and the mixer was doing what it's supposed to. Then one day a user wanted ti mix a considerable amount of BTC but the mixing job never went trough. After few days it was obvious that the project was a scam and everything worked fine until a scammer received a lot of BTC.
5733  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin TA (Analiza) on: April 06, 2020, 10:39:07 AM
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[...] Trenutno smo baš na resistanceu, close iznad 6800 bi bio bullish, barem do 7700. [...]
Smo definitivno probili, jel drzi...?

PS znam da u ova vremena je sve moguce, ali hajd... malo "za raspravu"...
Jesmo, i 4h i daily su završili iznad resistancea. Međutim, i jedan i drugi timeframe pokazuju da je zapravo bio fakeout jer taj probijeni resistance nije izdržao kao support već smo se odmah vratili ponovno ispod resistancea.

Samo po sebi i dalje nije loše, skupljanje ispod resistancea zapravo 'jede' sell ordere na toj razini i realnije je očekivati probijanje kada se duže vrijeme ostaje tako blizu konkretne resistance zone.

Bilo bi jako dobro kad bi weekly zatvorio iznad 6910, to je ono što sada pratim.

Jako dobro. Bilo bi... ide u "dobrom smijeru"... da vidimo...

Uh... Čekaj malo. Pa tjedan je tek počeo, a ti već gledaš da ide u dobrom smjeru za close iznad $6910. Nadam se da bude.

Ja se trenutno "igram" s ETHUSDT parom. Ako dobro gledam, nekakav resistance bi trebao biti na $160. Tu ću prodati pa ćemo vidjeti što i kako dalje. Ali vjerujem da će se dogoditi jedna od dvije stvari: ili će dump prije nego stigne do $160 ili će prijeći $160 (a ja prodati) i otići u nebo. Poučen iskustvom, prilično sam siguran da neće doći do $160-161 i onda dump.
5734  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Gdje uloziti novac? on: April 06, 2020, 07:57:53 AM
Meni se baš auto trgovanje pokazalo kao najsigurnija a ipak solidna zarada. Prije sam polako ali sigurno gubio ulažući povremeno i po malo u pažljivo odabrane navodno jako perspektivne novčiće i to uvijek kad su se činili jako povoljni za kupnju. Kad sad analiziram slično bi prošao i da sam izabrao neke druge.
Dok auto trgovanjem već neko vrijeme povećavam portfelj, ne 1% dnevno nego možda 5-6% mjesečno.  Jednostavno ne znam ni kada ni koliko će neki coin rasti ili pasti ali znam da će se cijena sigurno mijenjati pa samo to i koristim.

Mislim da OP ipak traži gdje da uloži novac. Kako je netko već spomenuo, autotrgovanje (koristeći botove) je OK ako znaš što radiš ali to onda nije ulaganje. Kad već pričamo o ulaganju, imamo i ovu temu gdje smo raspravljali o drugim načinima ulaganja, osim kripto valuta.
5735  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Gdje uloziti novac? on: April 05, 2020, 08:04:15 AM
Meni se čini da OP traži nešto gdje bi uložio pare i imao sigurnu, ali istodobno i dobru zaradu. TO NE POSTOJI! Jer da postoji, onda nitko ne bi gubio živce trgujući dionicama, kripto valutama, plemenitim metalima i ne znam čime sve ne. Svi bi digli kredit milijun eura, uplatili tu lovu u to nešto gdje obećavaju zaradu 1% dnevno (zamisli kakva bi to bila lova da svaki dan dobivaš 1% od 1.000.000 €; za one kojima se ne da računati to je 10.000€ dnevno) i hladili jaja na jahti na Maldivima.
5736  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: FOOTBATTLE - Besplatna AI nogometna igra (menađer) na Ethereum mreži! on: April 05, 2020, 08:00:22 AM
Jao! Pa nisam uopće primijetio da sam jučer prodao jednog igrača! Woohoo!!! Nakon par mjeseci uspio sam zaraditi 0.06 ETH. Sad samo da dočekam da ETH poleti na $10.000 i isplatit će se svo vrijeme provedeno igrajući Footbattle Grin
5737  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Gdje uloziti novac? on: April 04, 2020, 08:02:33 AM
Teško ćeš dobiti neki konstruktivni savjet s tako općenitim pitanjem. Recimo ja uopće ne volim govoriti nekome da uloži u ovaj ili onaj projekt jer je ulaganje u kripto izrazito rizično. Najmanje rizično bi bilo ulaganje u Bitcoin, ali i to je prilično rizično. Za ostale projekte rizik se samo povećava jer još uvijek postoji vrlo velik broj projekata (čak i u CMC top 100) koji na kraju neće uspjeti.

Najbolji savjet je DYOR i uloži u projekt za koji ti se čini da ima najviše smisla.
5738  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Pi mreža - novi coin koji se majnuje samo mobitelom on: April 04, 2020, 07:37:32 AM
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Pa zato jer smo govorili kada coin izade na mjenjacicu...i eto sto je bilo sa etn? Mogao si zaraditi 10 puta vise i onda dump..
Pa upravo to, pump i dump.
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Mogao si spomenuti i btc kada mu je prvi put pala cijena onako nisko pa reci tada da je sh1t coin
Osim što bitcoin nije shitcoin i pump i dump. Zašto bih uostalom spomenuo bilo što? Odgovaram na tvoj post.
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Ovaj ostatak pitanja je kao kada netko dode na forum i rece kako uploadati video na youtubeu koju bi prije saznao ako guglas nego da ti netko tu pise..
Čekaj malo, jel ja tebe pokušavam uvesti u šemu ili ti mene? Molim te objasni tu shemu za ljude koji ne znaju guglat:

1) Što znači da se izrudaren Pi briše?
2) Gdje bude završio taj Pi
3) Kolko Pi developeri imaju?
4) Koliko ukupno Pi ima?
5) Koja je svrha Pi?
6) Koja je svrha Pi?
7) Koja je svrha Pi?
8  Koja je svrha Pi?

Da si se malo potrudio da istražiš, našao bi njegovu svrhu  Smiley
Pi je napravljen sa idejom da približi kriprovalute običnom, tehnicki nepotkovanom
čoveku. Nemaju svi skupe ASIC masine, rigove sa karticama itd... ali zato svi imaju smartphone.

Pi jos nema blockchain i tek je sve u test fazi.
U pitanju je ogroman projekat koji zahteva jaku infrastrukturu  (nodove) zbog ogromnog broja korisnika.


Ja isto nemam skupe ASIC mašine niti rigove s karticama, a imam razne kripto valute. Zamisli to!

Uostalom, kako ćeš sa Pi coinom približiti kripto valute običnim, tehnički nepotkovanim ljudima ako Pi nije kripto valuta? Sam si rekao da nema blockchain pa samim time nije kripto valuta. Znači da Pi tehnički nepotkovane ljude dovodi u zabludu jer im "prodaje muda pod bubrege" (prikazuje im Pi kao kriptovalutu koja to nije). To što je u testnoj fazi ne znači ništa. Hrpa projekata je u testnoj fazi (testnet) pa možeš slati coine/tokene drugima. Ovdje to ne možeš. Prema tome imaš hrpu Pi s kojima možeš... Što? Kako ćeš tehnički nepotkovane osobi pomoću Pi pokazati kako se šalje kriptovaluta kad Pi ne možeš poslati?
5739  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: 🍀🍀 Bounty kampanje Altcoin – Signature, Telegram 🍀🍀 on: April 04, 2020, 07:29:38 AM
Moje želje su se ostvarile u potpunosti kampanaja se nastavlja i bonus ostaje do daljnjega što znaći vrlo lijepih 66$ tjedno za mene. Briga me šta će te reći ali ja smatram da je moje proklestvo s ubijanjem hhampuzovih kampanja ovime završeno Smiley

Odlične vijesti ta vas koji ste u toj kampanji. Zarada je stvarno ogromna, naročito ako pogledam mizeriju u svojoj kampanji (nekoliko dolara tjedno). Mislio sam da ću puno brže prijeći iz Tier E makar u D ali očito je nedostatak novih BTC kampanja malo usporio fluktuaciju ljudi u Bitvest kampanji. Prije šest mjeseci sam puno brže došao iz E u D.
5740  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitcoin TA (Analiza) on: April 03, 2020, 07:15:55 PM
Pogledaj sve ratove koje je Amerika vodila protiv raznih 'neposlušnih'  lidera.
Tražiti od mene nekakav 'dokaz' je zaista neozbiljno i zato prekidam diskusiju.


Super... Takvi stavovi su odlični za forum  Roll Eyes


Znam ženu koja je uvjerena da svijetom vladaju ljudi gušteri i da ih je Lady Di htjela razotkriti pa je zbog toga ubijena. Ta žena isto razmišlja izvan kutije?

ne znam da li razmislja izvan kutije, ali joj je razmisljanje vrlo zanimljivo Smiley

inace, zavisi kako gde, ali u vecini zemalja su politicari i biznis u koordinaciji, jednostavno biznis ulaze u politicare kroz kampanju, i to se vraca kad politicari dodju na vlast, cak je npr. u Americi to i legalno, i zove se lobiranje
ja to ne bi nazvao da je politicar lutka


S ovim se slažem. Naravno da su političari i biznismeni povezani. Ako netko financira kampanju, naravno da to ne radi zato što je dobar čovjek nego očekuje nešto zauzvrat. Ali teorije da će političar popiti metak ako "zastrani" su mi stvarno pretjerane. Ne kažem da se to ne događa u nekim zemljama, ali me bih baš rekao da je to pravilo.

No dobro... Ovo je ipak BTC analiza, a ne topic o teorijama zavjere Smiley
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