i think these days losing anything in gambling should make anybody cry. mostly because bitcoin is starting to go up again and also with the halving getting closer the price will continue on this path up. so losing anything now means you have lost even more money in a couple of weeks.
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What's the amount that you think everyone should have before the halving block reward ? (amount that should make you make a good profit) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) this is such a general question that nobody can give one particular answer to. because it depends on your situation, how much money you have and how much you want to invest in bitcoin and take risks. 1 BTC can be enough for one person while others won't stop at 100 BTC even.
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I don't think that value is ever possible to achieve, and if you think that it can achieve then you are wasting your time, it is unrealistic value to achieve.
I even think $10,000 is the price also unrealistic. so how with 200k dollars lol. it really unrealistic. yeah, i never like these gigantic numbers for bitcoin price either. all of them look so unrealistic to me. you can argue about the adoption and do a lot of math to prove $10K, $20K,... but i think all of it is irrelevant until there is real mass adoption and a couple of years pass after the adoption.
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I think it's been bitcoin season. bitcoin in the current year has increased significantly and is on track bitcoin positive. I'm sure at the close at the end of 2016 will be in the numbers bitcoin 700USD. and in 2017 bitcoin is in the price range 1000USD.
I don't if this is possible by next year that bitcoin will range to its price of $1,000.00 Since we cannot tell and predict what will happen in the future of bitcoin. But this is a positive thought that it will reach 1k USD , I think we just need to go with the flow and lets just thanks bitcoin if that happens. not everything is about the price though! although price of bitcoin is a big part of it that we cannot overlook because it is mostly being used as an investment plan. but i think it is more about the adoption of bitcoin by people and all the big companies out there.
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if you don't want to do day-trading (meaning buying and selling bitcoin on every small changes) then i say it is a very good time to buy bitcoin because even if the price goes down for example $10 it would be temporary and there are a lit bigger rises in the future.
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yeah hardware wallets are just USB sticks with some extra logic bits right? So if they lost power for more then a few years they could become corrupted to. I wouldn't trust them, just more crap that could break.
interesting, i did not know this, especially this part about the hardware wallets. although i am already using USB sticks for my cold storage i am also keeping a paper backup printed too.
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nothing is going to happen and nothing will change if satoshi returns, people should really stop making a god out of satoshi and start to realize what anonymity is and how open source programming works. satoshi created bitcoin and others have been developing it ever since. even if satoshi comes back he will only be one developer.
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...i took out all my saving from my bank..... ....Was this a bad idea? ....
yes it was a bad idea. why? because you have invested all your money. it doesn't matter what you invest in (bitcoin, altcoin, gold, stocks,....) it is never a good idea to go all in. but on the other hand $3500 is not that much.
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can you give the link to this proposal? i have been hearing people dropping this (that seems to only be a rumor) here and there but they have never provided any link about who proposed this idea? so i am wondering is it something developers proposed or some random people?
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the question is when is this going to happen? if it would happen in this year, then yeah i would sell all my bitcoin because the price will come back down where i can buy back even more bitcoin. but since $5000 will take a long time to reach i will still hold but spend my coins then.
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generally i don't like them because of the fact that they are going to keep the private keys of your wallet and you only have access to your funds through their site and your account, so in case they decide to ban your account you are screwed.
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I hold my little bits of bitcoins all over the place because holding them in one place doesn't make me feel secure, now I also want to get a bitcoin debit card so one day when I have enough bitcoin I can use it for my day to day living and expenses.
this is a good method but also it will cause you a lot of difficulties because you should remember all those wallets, and since you should never use the same password for all of them (because that makes it pointless to keep it with the same password in different places) then you also have to remember multiple passwords.
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Again people using online wallets and having problems with those. Why would you do that? Cold storage, cold storage, COLD STORAGE!
online wallets are being used a lot because they are easy to use and newbie friendly. it is the same way people have been using wallets forever like paypal or others. you just make an account and use it. that is why they are being used. but they should only be used for small amounts that you want to have at hand for spending fast since it is harder to spend from cold storage.
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dont chase loses! that was the biggest lesson for me. When your cold bet smaller til it turns around. Most idiots bet more and try and make it back. Press it when your hot and reduce when cold.
that is true but there is a difference between chasing losses and knowing how much you have lost. you should never confuse the two together. because you have to keep an eye on your losses to know how much you have lost so you can keep it to a minimum affordable loss otherwise that amount is just going to rise out of control.
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How so? I've heard the same multiple times for both 2015 and 2016.
you are right i also heard the same multiple times for both 2015 and 2016. 2017 should be said year of the Bitcoin. This happens because of halving by 2016 will have an impact in 2017. It is true that we have heard the same in 2015 also, but for 2016 I will say that it is not passed completely now currently we have not reached even the mid of 2016, so there is hope with halving that 2016 will be the year of bitcoin success and 2017 will also be best for it. If halving shows us best price then we can expect that next year would be better in compare to this year, so now totally depends on the price at halving. maybe, but i think it can also hurt bitcoin too. mostly because if there is a sudden rise (or a bubble) that will burst soon and there will be a big fall afterwards which can not be avoided. and that looks bad on the charts. it will make bitcoin look like a pump and dump to the untrained eyes.
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what is the source of this chart?
anyways the information can not be reliable when it comes to bitcoin. there is an anonymity with bitcoin and also the spread between bitcoin addresses that you can never make such conclusions and charts. nobody is keeping coins in one wallet so you can't find the real whales.
also, these top addresses are mostly mining pools, exchangers, services, .... that hold a lot of bitcoin because of the nature of their business.
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I'm also holding my bitcoin because there is a good chance that the bitcoin is gonna rise to a higher amount for sure this year. There is a nice halving coming and I think we can make profit with it.
Majority of the users are holding their coins for halving, everyone is expecting higher price in next couple of months, so holding till then is the good thing. i am not waiting for an event i am waiting for the mass adoption which will come in a couple of years, so i will hold until then. meanwhile i will only use bitcoin if the vendor accepts it and may sell if there is a sudden rise leading to a big bubble, otherwise no sell for me.
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How will it happen?
Will it just suddenly one day drop to $0? Or will be a slow painful bear market finishing near $0 but never quite reaching at? Some believers will never sell no matter what price ??
What do you guys think?
I think Bitcoin cannot reach zero (not in the next decade anyway). I would rather not sell anything for 10 cents, not worth the trouble. If the entire stash of Bitcoin is available for 1k I would buy it even if the world considers it worthless. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) haha, exactly. bitcoin will never become cheap. and even if it gets on the path of getting there, it will take decades to become worthless. because we are all waiting to sell our clothes to buy bitcoin dirt cheap! and there is no reason to get on that path, bitcoin is growing everyday.
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I would really go for the bitcoin because of the patience you need with gold, I do not want to wait for such a long time to make profit.
patience is obvious for both. if Gold need more patience it is also have more profit then bitcoin. you can sell gold also for less profit if you can't wait. and if you hold bitcoin for long time you also get more profit. so I think both are equally important and have advantages. Agree. And besides when taking profit for both gold and bitcoin we don't need to wait for that long. It's just a matter of take profits and don't be greedy when you sees profit because sometimes the output you like is not what exactly that will happened. True the secound bitcoin gets a real value people will mass dump and maybe kill it. But now it will not be that much easier for the people to dump it so easily and to kill it as now it is diversified to all over the world and it has a lot of owners and so if one will dump the others will not agree to dump. he is comparing bitcoin market (a 7 billion dollars) market with a shitty thousand or even million dollar market. this is a wrong comparison because bitcoin is so much bigger and also it is more spread than anything else so the dump (if it happens) will never be big. even whales are not a couple of people, there are a lot of whales and a lot of smaller whales and a lot of other small investors.
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Do you think if BTC had a stable price which could only be altered by $0.01-0.10 it would still be as popular and as used?
yeah, i think if bitcoin had a more stable price it could become much more popular but an stable price doesn't have to be necessarily tiny price changes like 1-10 cents. an stable price can be achieved if the price don't move with sudden swings like $20-$50 in a day to a week.
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