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5761  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 19, 2014, 01:44:56 PM
Just got a tracking#, checked with DHL and it is at Detroit Metro Airport so should be getting an email from my company on Tues saying a nice big box from Hong Kong is waiting for me when I get back from Taiwan Cheesy

As for folks refusing delivery, not sure how that would legally work. Refusal still proves attempted delivery of *something*.

Hey, Fuzz, I suggest you refuse the order, bud.
Not gonna happen. I'll take all the hashpower I can get.
5762  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 18, 2014, 11:41:25 PM
Just got a tracking#, checked with DHL and it is at Detroit Metro Airport so should be getting an email from my company on Tues saying a nice big box from Hong Kong is waiting for me when I get back from Taiwan Cheesy

As for folks refusing delivery, not sure how that would legally work. Refusal still proves attempted delivery of *something*.
5763  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 16, 2014, 04:08:11 PM
No matter what *that* ^^ is uncalled for.
5764  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 16, 2014, 01:06:43 PM
 Cool Then hopefully Monday I'll be getting an email from the folks in my company's Receiving dept that I have a big box from Hong Kong waiting for me when I get back from Taiwan on Thurs...  Roll Eyes

Side note: Turns out the one mostly working (177GHs) original A1 hash board I have for forensics didn't finally die last Monday. It went offline from massive storms that rolled through and took out everything: power, phone, internet.  Had my partner power cycle it on Wed. and it came back fine. oth: one of the s2's I have there - of course the only Ant not on a ups - objected strongly to the power cut. Most likely the sd card is scrambled Sad gonna be missing that 1th until I get back and redo the sd card damnit.
5765  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 11, 2014, 07:00:58 AM
Application of thermal paste and mechanical assembly including mounting boards to heatsinks was not Imet's responsibility.  All soldering meets IPC class 2 and inspection was done by trained personal.  Everything was in order when delivered to AMT.  The likely cause of your boards not working is overheat.  The heatsinks used on the top of the ASICS are not adequate to dissipate the required 30 percent.
Yes the top sinks were woefully under sized. However, bet the rig you posted as running fine has the same tiny sinks, no?
Just that the final flaming nails in the coffin are the missing thermal bumps on back side of the board that are supposed to complete the thermal contact path to the main heat sink. I refer you to my previous post on this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569769.msg7610781#msg7610781

I have sample boards ranging from no thermal bumps at all to most all there. On average I see what is shown in the above post - most missing meaning that there is no way in hell to make decent contact with the main heat sink as the few bumps present act as jacks raising the board up from the sink. Thermal compound no matter how carefully applied (or drunkenly slathered on) will not compensate for the 8mil gap. So much for the 70% of heat flow path.

AMT was not responsible for those bumps. The CM was. If they were not explicitly called out in the BOM from AMT/Bitmine (my copy makes no mention of them nor having filled thermal vias) then either have none or all of them. Period. If you have ever worked with power devices before you *have* to had known that. Given that some/many bumps are there tells me you knew about the thermal loads the A1 has. After that  Roll Eyes

Then there is the dpot chip substitution without regard to the core voltage divider reference circuit it controls... Ohm's Law applied to parallel resistances anyone? Frankly, aside from the legal who-did or didn't do-what points, this is all just stomping around in the rotting carcase of a long beaten to death horse.
5766  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Save 50% on PSUs w/ Gigampz: Board for DPS-800GBA 850/1000 Watt Server PSU on: August 10, 2014, 09:12:31 PM
Will this work with the 1200W variants?
Notably 440785-001 441830-001 HSTNS-PD11 for DL580 G5 and the like? There are a few out there with different part numbers, but these fit the bill. They seem to have the exact same pinouts.

The 'original' Gigampz only works with the DPS-800GBA and the ATSN-7001044.  The supplies you noted are "Common Slot" and have the same  physical connector but a _different_ pin-out and will not work with the original Gigampz boards.

That said; we just completed a prototype of the Gigampz CS (Common Slot) it works with all HP Common Slot power supplies including the 1200 Watt.  You can recognize a common slot power supply  by it's 1U profile and a single fan at the rear of the supply next to the power plug.  These supplies come in wattage's ranging from 460w to 1600w and 80Plus efficiency ratings up to Titanium.

Gigampz CS Prototype Photos


Fantastic! I use the 1200w common slot ones for all my Ants in the Pharm. Love them damn things. Wish you had done this 6 months ago Wink Definitely drop a line when they are available 'cause I too want several.

Got the rest of the control pins figured out for voltage/current adjustment and 1+n paralleling? That would be icing on the cake.
5767  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 10, 2014, 02:14:31 AM
Mine is still down.
As is mine again... Roll Eyes
Must be Clenells' Fault™ heh heh.
5768  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 09, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
So did anyone get the cloud mining for 1TH?
I did and it mostly was a good 900-1100ghs. That is it was until Friday when it went poof... Huh
Is back up now.
5769  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 09, 2014, 04:34:18 AM
So did anyone get the cloud mining for 1TH?
I did and it mostly was a good 900-1100ghs. That is it was until Friday when it went poof... Huh
5770  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 07, 2014, 05:44:16 PM
So far can confirm at least 4 folks got the cloud hash power requested. How much of the 7TH Josh mentioned is left? Dunna know but at least it is some nice crumbs to munch on  Grin Aside from a couple stutters on 1st day (still wiring the room) been rock solid. For how long yet to be seen.
5771  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 02, 2014, 06:02:54 PM
^ ^ Nope. Not that. Thank Bitmine for a design where the hash boards can be plugged into the backplane backwards with disastrous results.
Yes, either upside down or off by a pin or 2 causes this failure.

The cable only fits one way
Is not the floppy power or GPIO cable that caused the problem. It is the backplane itself that is easily plugged onto the hash boards backwards because it is not keyed and physically fits perfectly either way.. Now the only way to do that and have the supplied GPIO cable fit up to the main boards is with the kits or everything out of the case. Considering zero instructions, manuals, scribbles on a bar napkin to go by, was bound to happen..

The large heatsinks must face the GPIO cable end or Majik Smoke escapes from power feeds and returns getting crossed at the backplane/board sockets.
5772  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 01, 2014, 08:18:56 PM
^ ^ Nope. Not that. Thank Bitmine for a design where the hash boards can be plugged into the backplane backwards with disastrous results.
5773  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 01, 2014, 03:51:48 AM
I wonder if AMT customers should start pinging Bitmine for delivery of their miners.

Afterall Bitmine should accept some responsibility considering that they've advertised that AMT was (and still is?) their exclusive distributor in the U.S.A.



I contacted them requesting a refund because AMT was their distributor and the let me know I'd have to go through AMT. Even though I had explained in the e-mail that AMT was non-communicative and that they refuse to process refunds.

But if anyone else wants to give it a go on the front of them delivering miners to us I'd be interested in hearing how that turned out. They were essentially supposed to be churning out the same product just manufactured here.

I think every defrauded AMT customer needs to send an email to Bitmine.

Bitmine should shoulder some responsibility after all they directed U.S.A. customers to AMT.
I said that in late March... And more than 'some' responsibility. CM issues aside AMT was trying to use Bitmine board designs as-given to them by BM.ch. The BOM and pcb layouts were revised at least 4 times during production. Even then BM.ch still had not figured out how badly they blew the top heat sink needs. (ergo the TechnoBit boards) And that is after the delays BM.ch had in getting any remotely workable 8-chip design to begin with.

As for the many other levels of messed up - AMT all the way on those points.

No matter what the product, for something this seriously fucked up the company behind the distributor should be bound to be Liable for said distributors actions and inaction's. Can't say I've looked at the Bitmine thread in ages so don;t know how folks are over ther but if Bitmine has/is taken care of them then they need to spread the love to here across the Pond.
5774  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 29, 2014, 03:29:07 AM
^Bump^^ I've edited post with a correction and additional info https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569769.msg8075780#msg8075780 ^^

On the HP's they are for Proliant servers and through Amazon depending on 80-Plus color they go for $29-49 new. Like the Dell's there should be a ton of new and re-furb'd ones over there. Just search for  HP Proliant server 1200w psu. Hell, just   HP 1200w psu   should bring them up.
5775  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 28, 2014, 11:12:33 PM
Thanks Smiley one of the early Cannon Power Shots I got a couple years ago. Damn versatile and fairly inexpensive.
5776  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 28, 2014, 10:39:55 PM
Alright,

Can we gear the conversation in a direction which may actually help us get the 1u/2u's out the door. Please, if you're willing elaborate on  your experience with server PSU's,  like the HP 403781-001 DL380 G5  vs 2x ESP129 HP 550 Watt .  Like lets discuss server psu's, connectors and the best way you guys would solve an attempt at a universal design for a box for A1/A2/BE200:

The below cases have been developed and ran stable in a test environment using standard atx supplies. Now we need to choose the right server psu's or combo psu's.

2U server case which needs 1600W,  12x 6pin pcie is needed.
2U server case which needs 1300W   5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed

1U server case which needs 750w     5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed
1U server case which needs 1300W   5/6 x 8pin pcie is needed
1u server case which needs 1000W   4x 6pin pcie is needed.

General idea is bulk purchasing of 2 to 3 models or a universal connectors for a specific line of supplies like HP or older IBM's. Any ideas are welcome.
<cracks knuckles> Hokey dokey - my area of fun Cheesy This of course all applies to any miner that needs only +12vdc

1st question: Only 12vdc is needed with all other required voltages being derived from it on-board the cards right?

2nd: PCIe 8pins? They provide 2 more common returns to reduce ground bounce and technically allow more current to be pulled from the (still only 3) +12v pins. Good to use. Just surprised to see someone is on their toes Tongue Great reference to PC power connectors http://www.moddiy.com/pages/Power-Supply-Connectors-%26-Pinouts.html Also good to see lots of PCIe plugs used in all power ranges - by the Molex book max load is EDIT 5-amps per-pin or only 180w 8-amps per pin or 288w per-plug with the always only three +12v pins.

Oh, an on commercial psu's with 6/8-pin PCIe plugs: The 2-pin adapter plug on them (to make the 6-pin an '8' pin one) - not a good idea. Still leaves only 3 real wires being used for the return and that defeats the whole point of the 8-pin plug. Make sure a commercial supply actually has 1-piece 8-pin PCIe plugs with all pins having wires running back to the psu.

With all HP server supplies of that family, refer to http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/14209_na/14209_na.pdf Pay attention to the input voltage vs wattage rating! Most are dual rated eg found the one you gave on Amazon and it is 800w on 95-120vac in and 1,000w on 200-240vac in. Now, for the highest watt rigs, the HP supplies all support 1+n operation so they can be paralleled, all need to be same supplies so 2 of the 900/1200w ones got you covered up to 1.8kw load off of (2) 110v plugs I will need to find what control pins are used to master/slave them.

As for connecting to them... I use the HP 900/1,200w ones to power all the s1's and soon s3's in my Ant Pharm. I have yet to find a connector for the back so direct soldering is used (and best). Each supply feeds 4 PCIe 6-pin connectors or 2 S1/S3's. Because the supplies are 3ft away from the Ants I use red/black paired uber flexible 12ga wire from McMaster-Carr or AutoZone (McMaster way cheaper!) http://www.mcmaster.com/#9697t4/=szo6yr The PCIe plugs are from FrozenCPU and start as 12" extenders, just cut off the male plug. I'd think that you can OEM them as female plugs with leads. And being OEM - use 16ga wire vs normal 18ga, very very minimal additional cost - much better for power.

For use directly in the case you would of course just solder the PCIe leads directly to the power planes on the psu. In my case I used 14-16ga splices which are perfect for the 12 ga feeds on one side and on the other side 3 twisted together 18ga leads from the PCIe plugs. oh - on 12ga wire into 14-16 ga splices? Only works with flex wire. The fine strands twist tighter together so smaller diameter.

On the small pins control part of the HP connector, pin-1 on the left end is common, pin-4 is DC on/off. Wire to a switch, when circuit closed the DC power is on.

Picture time!


5777  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 28, 2014, 05:33:05 AM
What part? A big part I'd think. Far better than nothing at all ala' Hashfast folks. Is that what you would prefer? Now as to can/should it be all, different story entirely.

Once you accept delivery, that's all you're going to get. That's why AMT won't release tracking numbers or even any details whatsoever what is being shipped. Sign for that package and you're "whole" in their eyes.
Entirely up to the individual customer. I for one would prefer at least finally getting what I ordered, evaluate it, and then deciding if to pursue the matter further. Even after accepting the gear there is still a lot of legal ground to stand on either way.
5778  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 28, 2014, 05:23:23 AM
What part? A big part I'd think. Far better than nothing at all ala' Hashfast folks. Is that what you would prefer? Now as to can/should it be all, different story entirely.
5779  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 28, 2014, 03:55:12 AM
Before it is jumped on, needs to be mentioned 'the select few' are those presently involved in litigation. While not a lawyer I'd think shipping to them is not allowed until settled.
5780  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 28, 2014, 03:40:20 AM
<snip>
Indeed the UPS tracking number should be sent privately to the client as soon as the package is shipped.  Thre is no excuse for not doing so.
<snip>

Ja. Pointed out to Josh off-site that the shipping co's will even do that for them. Just tick the box and provide email along with shipping address. The email is automagically sent when shipment is in the system and in-transit. Could still refuse delivery but then it is at the customers request with proof of something sent..
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