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5761  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: February 12, 2017, 12:25:07 PM
Getting a job is the nst source to get . Can't make more simple. The questio is the same when it's time of fiat so except to have the same answers
IF we are talking about the simpliest answer to this one then this thing would really won the trophy. Having a job and buy  in able to get it is the easiest thing but speaking of source it do have many ways to acquire it,maybe in a free way or in a buying way.
we have to earn through some other means and than implement it in the trading..... i think trading is the best and the safest way to increase bitcoin.... gambling is little bit of risky one.....
Trading is the best method for me but gambling is the worst one, knowing the big difference in terms of risk between the two will let us focus on what can give us a good return. Having said that, trading is always best, we can be a day trader to maximize our profit. Let us learn from our experience and obliged ourselves to have a continuous education about bitcoin and be updated of the recent news. That is the vital to make a good timing.
5762  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Bentahan/Bilihan ng account dito sa bitcointalk on: February 12, 2017, 12:13:15 PM
WTS MEMBER ACCOUNT SELLING PRICE: 0.004BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1769764.msg17670733#msg17670733


WTS POTENTIAL FULL MEMBER ACCOUNTS = 0.003BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1716566.msg17189888#msg17189888

PM lang sa mga interesado.
Pre diba nalagyan ka na ng red trust bakit inalis? Mas mabuti wag ka na lang magbenta ng account wala ka ng regla kaya pwede na isali sa sig campaign. Good for you na inalis nila regla mo
Maybe the one who gave him negative trust that selling an account is not against the rules of the forum. I don't know, but I guess account selling or account farming, whatever you call it will not be stop. There are people who make this as there job and if they ban selling in the forum, they can sell outside which is hard to trace already.
5763  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: February 11, 2017, 07:29:59 AM
Gold is signal of wealth its something that belongs to the past, you cant expose your gold anymore as before, because you can loose your life and your gold, the world has changed a bit, sure there are investors with gold saved at bank, but lets look at bitcoin last 3 years, from the 250 dollars to 1000 dollars, and the potencial of bitcoin hasnt yet been exposed, meaning its just a start, while i do see gold as a frozen market and  used and abused by countries to try to keep their currencie strong.
I agree and why would anyone want to put their life at risk because of gold {life is precious} Huh For this reason I pick Bitcoin and possibly in the future it also might be used as a symbol status quo.
What we want in life is to live a comfortable life and we cannot achieve it without money, therefore we invest aiming to grow what we have invested. Gold is a good investment while it may risk your money and your life in the line. With the advent of bitcoin, it offers us different kind of investment where we do not need a third party to manage it for us, we have all the freedom whatever we do with our money, in addition, the privacy that we have been longing is already here, it can help us be secured as people with bad intention would not know our real worth.
5764  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you beat the house edge on: February 11, 2017, 06:34:49 AM
Yes, but only in a short term. The fact that we lose in the long run will still take place in just a matter of time. Since we cannot beat the house edge, why not join them, we can do that if we will choose to invest rather than to play. It will be a wiser idea if you do that as investing in gambling sites is profitable.
5765  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: February 11, 2017, 06:28:57 AM
Personally I Don't Like to Play, I lost all my money within minutes
the chances of winning are very low than playing dice game. Someone need a big luck for winning the jackpot in slot game
I guess slot games are really hard it need a good timing but in some point no matter you're timing is because it is programmed and maybe 1 person out of 1000+ who played who will hit the jackpot . Slot games are only good if you having some fun time to play.
Your chances to win is only when you are lucky, but this game is fun when played in an occasional basis. Slot games are better if played in actual casino, such an old game but this is popular still to the oldies. I like different type of games as nowadays due to the advent of bitcoin, gambling made easy, and this one will live and the bitcoin gambling industry will continue to improve overtime to give more fun to us.
5766  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: February 11, 2017, 02:03:51 AM
at this point I feel that the price of bitcoin is so important. when the price of bitcoin decreases with height, because it could affect the confidence of people to bitcoin. Well, I think so many people are paying attention to the current price.
Not all people, I believe we have matured in this world as we see it often, when the price dump, we can expect that the next thing will happen is to pump. Though we cannot control what the minds of the people will think, but we should be very smart to take advantage on the recent drop, buy it now while it is cheap, weak hands are dropping, we don't belong to this people.
5767  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: February 11, 2017, 01:43:08 AM
Definitely I am not selling today LOL.  Bitcoin price crumbles today.  I think I will wait till Bitcoin reach the price of $1500  or I really need the money.  As much as I can I want to hold BTC until the time 1 BTC is enough to give me a decent living but I guess it will take another decade.

Just a little correcting caused by the PBOC's action. but i have sold my bitcoin @$1040 and in this time the price is $975 and on the last night, it was on $940. It's really good for the bitcoin trader. But i was feeling doubt if the price will ever reach $1500. and PBOC is always taking the action if the price of bitcoin is increase.

$1,500 is not too difficult to achieve, it just takes a long time. better trade rather than waiting for a high price increases. as you sell when prices rose high enough and now is a good time to buy again before going again to $1,000. I did the same thing and now I have bought, but if it goes down I'll buy again Cheesy
Yes the price now once again came to the lower level and it is quite sure that the rice of bitcoin will once again increase to more than $1000 in the coming weeks but still I do not sell and I will wait for the time when the price of it will increase to $1500 or more than that.
$1000 in this week, but I hope if PBOC will still calm. don't take a panic action to prevent the raise moment of bitcoin. $1500 it's very difficult at this time. If the PBOC still make a FUD for himself.
Bitcoin is on the steady way.  Cool
They are concern with bitcoin now because the price is rising, banks are really threaten with bitcoin especially in China where big number of mining operations are there. I guess this will be a temporary thing, they have done it before but it does not affect the price in a major may. People from different part of the world who have adopted with bitcoin keep supporting it.
5768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: February 10, 2017, 12:03:21 PM
It's hard, when I'm very addict with gambling then I find it hard to control the mind, I realized that I lost and spent a lot of money, but in my mind appeared confidence that I will win, if it stops then my luck will be lost.
It's really hard, that is why we have to be responsible in gambling prevent ourselves from being addicted. We will not gonna hate ourselves when we are addicted as we are just wasting our money, the fun that we will be getting is just temporary while in the event we spend the money we cannot afford to lose, it will live a long term problem which gives us a hard time to recover it.
5769  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: February 10, 2017, 11:34:17 AM
People think its about higher bank roll because you just keep doubling until you win, a small bank roll runs out before his luck turns.   Im not sure thats the best approach as you can just lose double each time though it should be increasingly unlikely

That's very risky practice if someone have mind like this with bigger bankroll and keep multiplying the bet amount would bring success to us. This called martingale strategy which have been proven failed long time so it's sure every body will lose in long term.

Martingale is probably the worst strategy - and to be honest its not even a strategy at all. It just based on some assumptions which in reality does not hold true. So in other words you are bound to end up with zero balance since the ideal situation does not exist.

In general if you keep playing on and on, hoping to recover all losses and get a green on the balance, better to stop gambling since that will never happen. Chasing losses only leads to more losses and hence it is fatal.
Not the worst, everyone has their own experience with that method, what makes it not working to us is because we are not doing it with discipline. We do not want to end up losing in a day which results to chasing without a specific target. In sports betting, I tried using that method and I succeeded. Definitely, my experience would prove it's not the worst one.
5770  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When do you plan to sell? on: February 10, 2017, 11:10:20 AM
Luckily ive sold parts of my whole bitcoin on the $1060 price and seeing on the price it went down recently going back to $940 seeing on the charts and now it tends to go back up again and on that time ive earned decent profits on selling some and now i bought it on possible lower price which is $930-940.

That's good for you but for me I don't have any plans as of now for selling my bitcoin. And I'll just wait for some more time.

Seeing the price of bitcoin being stable on $900 lane is already good for me so no matter what it grows higher or not.

It will depend on the situation on me if there are emergencies then I'll sell.
At this moment, we should be more focus in monitoring the price movement, we must set a certain range where we will have to sell our bitcoins when this price will continue to drop. For now, the price is still fine, it looks like it will start to rise again but no assurance on that.
Let's just hope that we will have the right timing so we will not lose whenever we sell, keep monitoring and trust yourself, that is the only way.
5771  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: February 10, 2017, 06:11:17 AM
When do you stop? Do you have a daily limit or something?

If you know and notice that your are winning the games you stay away from it little by little, bet at small amount then exit. Because if you don't, it will be pity and wasted.

Yes betting small and exiting earlier is going to be better indicator to stop. Because if you are not going to put yourself in a safe haven you will just going to keep losing and will forget that you need to stop.
Betting small is fun at the start but as we go on, we feel bored with our bets as we will not get the right excitement we are expecting, that will lead us to increase our bets and when we are starting to lose, the real story will begin. For me, it's important to control yourself, never go our on your safe zone in gambling because if you do, regret will come next.
5772  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: February 10, 2017, 05:48:09 AM
I am not rich yet. I have earned many BTC from betting. Some days I feel like making money and some days I don't.
This is what we must make basic to immediately reduce or stop gambling. Rest assured, gambling will not make us rich, better to use our money for investment. My advice, better most of the bitcoin on hold due to the current price being up, the rest we invested to buy altcoin.

Gambling is completely a luck based thing, so it totally depends on someone luck if they will win and get rich or they will lose and become poor. There is not any exact ways of becoming rich in gambling if you are just playing but not owning a site. Because the house probably gets more than any player gambling there.
Not all type of gambling, it's true that it will give you a good chance of winning if you have luck but what is more important is on how you will improve your method. Your skills is very important, if you are good in gambling, you do not need to rely on your luck as long term success is very possible you can achieve.
5773  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The best way to quit gambling for good on: February 10, 2017, 05:13:24 AM
The best way to quit gambling for good is to engage with other activities like sports and something that could divert your fun away from gambling. There are many ways which you could use computer games and listening sounds that is very lively. Most important is your betting amounts could be adjusted and the number of days in a week you are going to gamble should be adjusted.

Putting your interest into other things is the best thing to do to quit gambling for good. Just make sure that your decision is final because when you decided to quit there's no turning back or coming back. It is a wise decision that you will divert your time into other more interesting things like getting engage into sports, that's better.

Your desire to quit should be is very large, should be bigger than your desire to gamble again. Do not be shy tell people around you that you want to stop gambling, they might help to quit. Maybe they can help by taking you to perform other activities that are more useful and also spend time with. Such as exercise, or do a little business together.
We can certainly quit if we think what bad results gambling had done into our life, if we will not stop it, we will be more desperate and we will lose more money.  Reflecting your current situation would help, however it would be best for easy recovery if you do things that will entertain you and not harmful like your gambling experience. Every human has interest and passion, you should focus on yours.

There are a lot of people that are not even thinking about negative results that they made while they are gambling. Instead they are becoming more optimistic and thinks that they can be more positive and will get a good winnings if they are going to keep on gambling and that's really happening in those addicted gamblers.
Human nature, we all think positive all the time despite of the fact that we are losing. Being positive is very important for gamblers but we should not be blinded by the reality, we gamble to win but when we are not getting what we are expecting, I guess the final decision should be is to quit.
5774  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to explain bitcoin to teenagers or children on: February 10, 2017, 02:34:24 AM
I think it is not easy, we all know that bitcoin is different with fiat money, paypal, liberty reserve etc. Of course it takes patience to be able to explain the bitcoin to teenagers or children. I suggest, watching videos is an easy thing to be understood rather than reading the article.
If you are teaching a person who are aware in the online world, they would understand easily. In general, learning bitcoin is very easy as it is very informative, all the necessary information that a person should know is just one click away. One can make a deep research to fully understand how bitcoin works and the more knowledge means more trust. For me, teenagers who are interested in the crypto are easier to teach.
5775  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: February 10, 2017, 02:29:02 AM
in this period the price of bitcoin is volatile , and is not fixed , in my opinion Bitcoin can't replace the Dollar at least in this year or in the next five years .it's really hard to replace the first coin in the world , it result many problems in the economy of the world.


May be some big country will adopt this thing and start giving us time to change it to bitcoin. Because everything is now online base so no matter what technology will play a role in the next few years more or may be hundreds years more. We never know about the future, all is depends on our government if they are really into this things or not. We can only wait when the time comes
i i think it is not so easy to change USD totally to bitcoin, because bitcoin is goof for online purpose but i think it cannot provide all the facilities to the people that fiat can, therefore may be they are using bitcoin as fiat for some items but not as a permanent change i think permanent change will still take some more time.
It will not change or replace USD, they will have to co-exist together. Dollar is fiat and fiat is what people have been using, may it online and for offline transaction. Bitcoin is just a tool to make transactions faster but without fiat, its value will be worthless. Thinking of the possibilities to replace USD is not realistic as it will not happen.
5776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: February 09, 2017, 10:58:34 AM
Yeah right, I always use analysis for gambling. without the analysis we will look inconsequential and so will often lose. with the analysis surely makes a better chance of winning it is always me doing on the football, basketball, F1 and several types of sports gambling.
You are right analysis for gambling game on types of sports gambling will be work
unfortunately the analysis will not be work for dice gambling or other gambling types except sports gambling
the gambling game that are not base on skills will be difficult be analyzed.

I agree, sports-gambling can be analyzed because the sports that we put a bet on are happening in real time. While dice games or any computer automated games can't be analyzed. Because the language or patterns created by the computer is difficult for people to understand making those kind of games harder to win.

Not only sport betting but all sort of gambling can be analyze.  You do not need to know the program behind the game but rather you need to analyze yourself towards the game you are playing.  The approach and the  strategy you will use, the amount you will put on bankroll and when is the right time for you to quit.  This way, you can at least minimize your loses and better the chance of you walking away with a win.
If you mean you can do analyze too for other gambling games, that's not analyze but feeling and all gambler will have that's feel due your mind will automatic make your own prediction in every things.
You still analyze though, does not mean when you analyze you automatically win. Sometimes our analysis is wrong due to the wrong basis, along the way we will learn and we can improve our skills in analyzing games. There are a certain factors to be considered when analyzing games, you will not only focus on game result but on your bankroll as well.
5777  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: February 09, 2017, 06:39:20 AM
Trading is hard because there's no way to know where the bottom is or where the top is on any given day or week. You just have to make good judgments and don't panic buy or panic sell. It's best to wait for a spike in price to sell and a dip in price to buy back.
People who panic are those who have no proper education about bitcoin, it's normal that the price will rise and fall but with timing, we can take advantage and make profit on the event. Since bitcoin is volatile, day traders can make profit and that is not easy if you are just guessing without reference.
Definitely, and they can easily decide without even evaluating what the real situation is. There are only few traders who can be successful as they have made trading as part of their life or their job. By spending time with it, you must ensure you have a nice capital, as there is no constant income here even how good you are. With good amount of capital you can earn a decent income even not a 100% of your capital at a short time.
5778  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: February 09, 2017, 06:05:41 AM
Bitcoin can't make bank disappear. Bitcoin and banks are completely different things.

Banks will not be allowed to provide Bitcoin related services unless Bitcoin is centralized and regulated. Bitcoin and banks are not competitors.

Also banks don't need to improve anything to reach Bitcoin and I don't understand why some posters think that Banks are technologically behind of Bitcoin. Internet banking system is well established and more advanced technology compared to Bitcoin. Conversely Bitcoin is new and is subject to be improved until it's established. There is no competition between Banks and Bitcoin as they are really different things. They provide different services to different type user base.

A lot of differences between bitcoin and banks. Just like bitcoin, bitcoins also have the same thing like banks, Banks have the account, and bitcoin have a wallet address, for their differences, bitcoin has a wallet address, but the banks have the account number. In banks, you can loan a big money, without any risks, while in bitcoins, a lot of scammer in bitcoins. A lot of negative effects for bitcoin, but, there is also a vice versa for that.
The opportunity to take a loan is possible with bitcoin, there are lenders here who are willing to give you a loan with a minimize interest and easy collateral. What makes bank different from bitcoin is the fact that bitcoin is decentralized, you cannot change the current system unlike the bank where they are upgrading form time to time. Bitcoin gives us freedom unlike in banks where they have the power to freeze our funds once it is proven coming from illegal activities.
5779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: February 09, 2017, 05:46:20 AM
Did you ever gamble with other's money to pay your own debts or otherwise to solve a certain problem through gambling?
No never! i have never borrowed money to gamble nor will ever. it's a bad thing to borrow money for gambling, it's a sign of addiction if one borrows money for gambling. 
It is not about borrowing but using the money of other people without their consent. Because if you are going to borrow money for gambling it doesn't matter and its fine as long you are going to pay it on the right term. But if you are going to use the wealth of other people and that's really going to be a bad thing.
Spending it without consent means you are stealing it, worst than borrowing money at all. I guess why we borrow is because we are out of budget and since we use that in gambling, there is no guarantee we will be able to return it. That is one of the reasons why our lives were ruined, we spend money we cannot afford to lose and borrowing money is one good example.
5780  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: February 09, 2017, 02:20:25 AM
For me I will say there is no big or small investment its purely what you can afford as that amount you might regard as small is big to some other people and the same applies to the amount you regard as big. In addition to that every investment is a risk and the higher the risk, the higher the return. If you going in small, never expect any big returns.
In investment there only small ROI percentage , so if you put small investment it's not worth imho
For me to invest you have to put your money as low as 0.4 bitcoin
And then your investment will be worth to wait
You have to calculate everything in an investment like , how long time you plan to put your money there etc.

If we talk about investment in house bankroll of gambling site, 0.4btc is not a good amount to make good profit. You'll need to wait for so long time to make decent profit unless there are many gamblers lost hundreds or even thousands btc everyday.
Investement on gambling site cant be calculated as you cant control it. Even if you have a plan on how long you want to invest but how if you get nothing after the time you have planned is reached?
Then how much?
It's just my personal opinion , from my point of view that amount is the minimum to start investing
If you think it's not enough then fine , you might have another point of view
The point is to always investing your money in several place, not only one to minimize the risk.
The thing is we have different minimum amount to start in investment, investing in a bankroll of a casino does not give bigger return compared to trading. You cannot double your money in a short period of time as you only have a little percentage of sharing on the total bankroll, thus, the profit will be divided proportionally, you should put a bigger amount to investment and obviously bigger than that to gain a good income.
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