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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Cool Storage Wallets - Risk Mitigation of storage of funds on: August 20, 2017, 03:12:14 AM
i will also be following this. excuse my dumb question, but how is diff from a multisig wallet where 3 out 6 sigs are needed to transfer funds?
Good question, it is not dumb at all!

Both cool wallets and multisig wallets use (usually) the same Shamir's algorithm, so they are not different in the core, except in the use case, just as different coins use the same blockchain technology to provide different services.

The purpose of this project is to create tools (even embeddable libraries) that allow common users to secure his / her funds easily, so the tool will be designed to be as simple as possible, using familiar vocabulary over technical or theoretical terms, to promote higher adoption.

We're considering the design an interface that the user can use to get Wallet parts from QR codes and the application will be designed to hold the recovered key in RAM memory, and use it with different wallets, so the user will not need internet or online portals to produce and open his wallet. We will probably have to cooperate with developers of different wallets.

The purpose is one: Higher adoption of better security standards for users of cryptocurrencies, and higher options to produce the idea cool storage wallets, by his own risk tolerance and requirements.
582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Cool Storage Wallets - Risk Mitigation of storage of funds on: August 19, 2017, 10:18:23 PM
reserving indonesian translation for ann and whitepaper if you need.
i give moderation on the tread by the way.
thank you.

I appreciate your interest. If the concept gets enough attention, I will really appreciate your help.

The concept looks interesting. Would like to follow the progress as you develop it.

Thanks! The tool's core is ready. I will try to complete the tool to generate the Cool Wallets tonight, so I may publish it very soon.

I'm also in contact with a leader of a coin project to consider alliances.
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] Cool Storage Wallets - Risk Mitigation of storage of funds on: August 19, 2017, 10:01:41 PM
The issue
As you probably know, a Cold Wallet is a safe way to preserve your funds from a cybernetic attacks or digital lost. Must people will agree that Cold Wallets are the safest and easiest way to get the maximum security for the least of the cost.

Cold Wallets also yield their own serious risks, like physical lost. Yes, they are safe from the Internet, but they are not safe from the world: a fire, an accidental disposal, a simple lost... can be enough for all your funds to be lost. A more general way to describe the risk of Cold Wallets is physical centralization: all you fund are centralized on a specialized drive some QR codes on a paper.

It is clear that the answer to this problem must be risk mitigation.

These are some examples of bad methods for risk mitigation of Cold Wallets:
  • Multiple copies of a Cold Wallet - Increased risk of wallet's exposure to third parties.
  • Save a digital copy of the cold wallet - Not really a Cold wallet anymore. It has all risks associated to any wallet stored in a digital media.
  • Funds in multiple Cold Wallets - Users often do not have enough different safe places to store many different wallets. Many wallets may lead to lost of track, or imply a batch storage of them, which leads to the same storage risks of a simple Cold Wallet.
  • Divide a wallet in multiple parts and store the parts in different places, or trust parties* -  If you divide a wallet in 3 parts, the 1x risk of one wallet being lost is now x3 the total risk, since only missing piece of the wallet is required for all funds to be gone forever.

The solution
It is clear we need a different and clever approach to this problem.

The point of cryptocurrency is that now the user has greater control of his own funds, not only the government, banks or other finantial institutions. Of course, we can trust third parties to store our funds safely, and we are free to do so, but we still need the option to store our funds in a safe, reliable, private and accessible way.

A solution to many of these problems is a Cool Wallet.

What is a Cool Wallet? - The concept
The theoretical definition of a Cool Wallet is a compound wallet of m total parts, in a way that a quantity under n parts is not enough to recover the private key, but on or over n parts is, assuming that n is less or equal to m.

Maybe an example is a better way to explain what a Cool Wallet is.

Suppose Mark wants to mitigate the risk of storing the 12 BTC he saved growing up. He first considered a Cold Wallet, but he also likes to travel, so the media can be lost or stolen. He still wants to have his funds in hand for any emergency. He realizes that a Cold Wallet is not ideal for his purposes, so he considered a Cool Wallet instead. He generated a simple Public-Private key pair and provided the Private Key to a Cold Wallet tool to generate the parts of a Cool Wallet. He generated 6 parts in a way that only 3 different parts are required to recover the Private Key and get all his funds, which means he created a 3 / 6 Cool Wallet.

Mark stored one wallet part in his mother's house (1), he gave another to a trusted friend (2), he stored another one in his laptop (3, remember it is not a Cold Wallet), another one in his physical wallet as a QR code (4), he stored another one in his USB drive (5) and the last one is stored as an image in his cell phone (6). Mark may lost his wallet, phone and wife (just kidding), but he will still able to recover the funds from the parts left and create a new Cool Wallet to move the funds from the previous one. A very clever hacker could had access to the Cool Wallet's part stored in Mark's laptop, but the hacker was unable to get any funds without more different parts to combine.

Mark never lost control of his wallet, since only he knew and had access to all his Cool Wallet's parts. He also mitigated the risk of losing his wallet, since only a fraction of the generated parts are required to recover the Private Key.

Therefore, Cool Wallets are called as such because they may or may not be strictly used as Cold Wallets, but they are a lot safer than online wallets or exchanges as storage of money.

The tool
I created a tool to create Cool Wallets. Any string can be a Private Key, so you can use any Private Key generated with your favorite tool, or even use directly the Electrum Seed Phrase instead of a common private key.

I will be developing the Tool's User Interface as required. Later, I will release the source code in GitHub.

As technology and its security risks increase, and the adoption of cryptocurrency reaches new high levels every year, privacy and security of digital funds will have to become a top priority, since there is a lot of room for technological growth and safety improvement in the world of cryptocurrency.

Roadmap (may change)
  • Publish the concept - done
  • Release the alpha version of the command-line tool to generate cool wallets, for QA testing. - soon
  • Release the Core's Source Code on Github.
  • Marketing phase
  • Release the alpha version of the GUI tool.
  • Release the NuGet, for developers.

FAQ
I will try to answer your questions and concerns in this thread and later add the information here.
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] XtraBYtes - The Proof of Signature Blockchain Revolution on: August 12, 2017, 02:04:38 AM
Buy the Drama.
Hold the Silence,
Sell the News!

That's how you trade XBY.
585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [LEPEN/BTC] Marine Le Pen Coin - Make France Great Again. on: June 09, 2017, 02:11:57 AM
Why is this growing today?
586  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Islamic Bank of Bitcoin{}بنك بتكوين الاسلامي on: March 28, 2013, 05:47:18 PM
Sorry, he died recently.

really  ?
No, just Kidding.
587  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Islamic Bank of Bitcoin{}بنك بتكوين الاسلامي on: March 28, 2013, 08:25:46 AM
Sorry, he died recently.
588  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Islamic Bank of Bitcoin{}بنك بتكوين الاسلامي on: March 19, 2013, 11:21:46 PM
I am a forgotten investor of this bank.

Too bad I was so long disconnected from BitCoin.

How is it working?
589  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE command line client update, will fix broken command line client on: May 16, 2012, 05:49:52 PM
SIN is not traded right now.
Maybe, but I have some bitcoins there.

I only have the public key in a rare XML file. I don't understand.
590  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE command line client update, will fix broken command line client on: May 16, 2012, 06:07:56 AM
I have an old profile in the command line client. I was not using bitcoin for a lot of time, but I want to take my bitcoins from the old profile to a new one of GLBSE.

The problem is that I only have only the public key, and I dont undertsand very well where is the private key file. I only have an xml file with a public key.

Honestly I forgot a lot about using this client.

I had some important SIN stocks.

 (sorry for my english)
591  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 30, 2011, 09:58:56 PM
Somalia is closest to a theocracy than to anarchism.

I dont think anarchism is totally imposible, but I think it is very unprobable.

Maybe in the future, when education becomes universal and transportation is open to everyone, that day law will not be be necessary and anarchism could be posible.

But you can force a country to be anarchist and reject religion; thats is stupid and utopical.
592  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 29, 2011, 12:28:28 AM
In social issues, however, many people are involved and affected, and therefore, we need standards in those cases.

Standards != Laws.
righr, there are standards, however, if someone chooce them, that person would be a leader by definition. If society make those standards, then society would be over the individual.
Have you read that wikipedia article yet?
Thats is cohesion! If you are an anarchist, and you are giving orders, that is against your idiology.
593  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 29, 2011, 12:23:44 AM
In social issues, however, many people are involved and affected, and therefore, we need standards in those cases.

Standards != Laws.
righr, there are standards, however, if someone chooce them, that person would be a leader by definition. If society make those standards, then society would be over the individual.
594  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 29, 2011, 12:10:51 AM
arbitration need arbitrators; even they have to have a law for reference. If a killer would not be recurring to arbitration, and if there is no law nor police, no one can force them. So, no justice.

Ahh... No bigger thugs, to push people around, so, no justice, eh?

keep in mind that that whole 'can't force' thing cuts both ways, up to and including food, shelter, and clothing. Someone who refuses arbitration would be very far up shit creek, with no paddles.
However, if someone dont want food, only he will die. In social issues, however, many people are involved and affected, and therefore, we need standards in those cases.
595  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Somalia on: July 28, 2011, 11:51:14 PM
So anarchism is the same of government?
596  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 28, 2011, 11:50:21 PM
So anarchists promote landowner (and therefore slavery, because every one have their own laws in that dystopia)

If someone kill other in disney, there would not be police nor judgment? mmm... Sorry, your example is wrong.

You know 'dystopia', but not 'arbitration'?

...interesting schooling you've had.
arbitration need arbitrators; even they have to have a law for reference. If a killer would not be recurring to arbitration, and if there is no law nor police, no one can force them. So, no justice.
597  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 28, 2011, 11:43:14 PM
There are no police in Disney World either. Try to start something there though and you will find yourself surrounded by ducks and mice packing guns.
So anarchists promote landowner (and therefore slavery, because every one have their own laws in that dystopia)

If someone kill other in disney, there would not be police nor judgment? There would be government involven... Sorry, your example is wrong.
598  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 28, 2011, 11:27:19 PM
Somalia: an example of an anarchist country. Yes, i know it is the Vatican of the anarchists. It is beautiful.

If you want to fuck your country with anarchism, go to somalia and learn about it.
599  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Closest thing to a libertarian utopia on: July 28, 2011, 11:14:52 PM
If I live in an anarchist country, shall I go through left road or right road? How would decide it? If there is no law, and I cant do a contract with every person on road, then what shall I do? if we make a law, then that country would not be anarchist.

If we think in anarchist "laws" as colosal contracts, then there would be a democracy by definition, not  anarchism.

If I cant hurt someone else, then there is a law: not hurt anyone else. However, if there is no police or military, who wouod prevent me from hurting someone else?

It seems very contradictory by itself.

If I make a contract to have sex with a children of 5 years, society can think about it like cohesion. However, who determinate what is the age of consent?

Anarchists people prove that, instead of acknowledging their mistakes, they prefer to attribute them to others (society, government).


The system is not perfect, it is rotten, but it have improved a lot through history and it will improve more if we want.

Of course, many personal choices would not be determined by government, but some things have to.

Human nature is about community and laws. Without them, there would not be standars, would not be peace, would not be justice. Would not be civilization.
600  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: IBB - Islamic Bank of Bitcoin (80.30 BTC ) بنك بتكوين الاسلامي on: July 25, 2011, 04:29:37 PM
Can I donate some Dishwara and SIN shares? How?
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