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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available - Latest update in post# 346 on: November 21, 2018, 04:25:30 PM
Folk,

Due to the thanksgiving holiday and family things, I am going to let this run with the couple of beta testers instead of expanding the audience. I need to make sure things are working (one user had issues, but appears to be network related) and be available to fix them. I'll look to get feedback from the beta testers and hopefully open the floodgates on Friday.

Thank you,

Jason
582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 21, 2018, 03:55:10 PM

....snip...


Sigh. I kindly ask you find your own thread for this and it is seriously uncool to post that here after I've been working for weeks to prep an infrastructure to release additional functionality. I am a straight shooter and I do not appreciate your action at all.

Jason
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available - Latest update in post# 346 on: November 21, 2018, 03:21:39 AM
I need a couple of testers for v2.1 for the Z9 Mini, and v2.1 for the Z9 large.

Send me a PM if you are interested -- I want to get some additional verification before "opening the floodgates".

Thank you,

Jason

Thank you all, I have a few responses now.

I have a couple of others testing and a couple of testers I'm waiting to install the firmware. I want to be careful with this -- I've already found one bug in the server I had to fix. The firmware I'm confident in... just need to validate the infrastructure a little more before releasing it en masse.

Thank you,

Jason
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available - Latest update in post# 346 on: November 20, 2018, 11:42:04 PM
I need a couple of testers for v2.1 for the Z9 Mini, and v2.1 for the Z9 large.

Send me a PM if you are interested -- I want to get some additional verification before "opening the floodgates".

Thank you,

Jason
585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 20, 2018, 05:21:17 AM
Folk,

This is hopefully the last update before the release. The firmware images are ready for both the Z9 as well as the mini, but I am working to resolve on piece of infrastructure before I can release the image. That should be done sometime later today.

There will be two images available, one for the Z9s and one for the Z9 minis. In a later release I will merge these two images, but for now they are still separate (you will find a pull down in the "General Settings" page to select which miner type you are running the image on, it just does not function for this next release.

The Paid user and Dev-Fee user image is the same. It will take me a few days to get the license files out to the paid users, so in the interim, I will be disabling dev-fees (except for the very first 10 minute cycle) until I can get the license files packaged up (they have been created, I just need to package them up).

What this means is if you are a paid user or a dev fee user, this next image is the one for you. On the System->Upgrade page there is an option to "Upload License upgrade file" for paid users to add a new license without having to reinstall the image.

From a feature perspective, this image includes the fully unlocked frequencies and the per-hashboard overclock for both dev-fee and paid users. However, there is much more going on behind the scenes as this is a major infrastructure release.

The "Summary" page will dynamically update to inform you if there is a new image available and provide a direct download link, as well as "live" updates as to the status of features.
The summary page also will include a "Support ID" that will be unique to your system -- it will help us work together to resolve any issues or questions that may arise.
There is more, I'm sure, and pictures will do a lot of justice, but for now these words will have to suffice.

For dev fee users, I will be adjusting the dev-fee as we go to decrease it over time, as well as disable it on some occasions ("dev fee free weekend" for example, where no developer fees will be taken over 2-3 days).

A couple of folk have asked "What if I have a batch1 mini, why would I use your firmware?" -- I don't have a good answer for you on that as the initial mini release is not targeted to increase your hashrate by 400%. That said, with the per-hashboard overclocking abilities, I have been able to squeeze another 5-10% out of batch2 systems in test. Your individual mileage will vary and I encourage discussion so we can figure out what works best for all of us.

After this release I am focused on hardware aspects; specifically getting control over the fan, temp, and hopefully voltage. I've put a number of hours into research and testing on those aspects and now have some confidence in my understanding of how the controls currently work -- its just a matter of me getting control over them now.

Lastly, a quick update on nicehash support -- I've spent a few more hours looking at this and have been in touch with nicehash on the issue. I think I have a pretty good understanding as to what is going on now, but it is going to take some time to fix (I have to recalculate the nonce/share submission on the fly it looks like and I simply do not know how to do that just yet). Nicehash is trying to work with me, but the ball is in my court at the moment and I just need to "get the time" to work with them.

A quick teaser image -- all of the text for the license, support ID, upgrade, message, and summaries at the top are dynamic. I will use those features to stay in communication with the user base more directly as many folk have raised concerns that they do not read the forums all the time and were not aware of updates.




Thank you,

Jason
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 19, 2018, 05:16:14 AM
Quick update:

Z9 paid and dev fee firmware is effectively complete. I'm running another test over night and need to get the license files together for paid users, plus write instructions, and get this post updated. It's 12:14AM Monday now, so I'll be able to release it this evening I'm hoping.

It is very likely that the mini variant will be released at the same time. I've got an image for the mini under test now as well.

Thank you,

Jason
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 18, 2018, 07:05:41 AM
...snip...
These batch 4 units are being shipped to the USA thru Ebay and Amazon. I agree I am lost some in this disassembly. It has been a few years since I had to deal with coding got too old and cant see well enough to do it much anymore. The fan and PWM checks are the ones I am having a bit of a problem locating to disable for this unit. The pwm line is ok it is just the rpm line that seems to not be working correctly or even if I can change the min rpm from 1440 to 0 and set the check to continue if the fan rpm is 0. if I can disable this then I can at least mine with it until I get a new controller board this week

I'm not claiming to be the best at this by any means, but I've spent more than a handful of hours on that so far without the progress I was hoping for. The checks would be easy enough to disable (although it is interwoven in a main thread)... but what I really want to do is gain control over them. I now know how the firmware communicates with things like the fan at least, and I've got an indication of "where"... anyway, figuring out the fan bits is next on my list due to requests after the next version drops later today.

Jason
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 18, 2018, 05:25:22 AM
one thing I noticed is that if the fan is set too low manually on the mini batch 4 the machine will cut speed back accordingly. So if the controller sets the fan to say 4500rpm and you drop it too low the speed will reduce. The batch 4 mini's need a fan simulator and other hw mod to fan to run batch 1 firmware unless you don't mind the fan running 100%

What do you mean "cut speed back accordingly"? Are you saying the frequency and hashrate drops?

Otherwise, I would not expect a "fan simulator" to not act any different than a regular fan in the condition you have described.

Another point on the "batch 4 minis" is that I believe their availability is only mainland china?

-j

If cgminer wants the fan to run at a certain rpm and you lower it below what it is expecting the hashrate will drop and eventually goto 0. The batch 4 mini I have been playing with runs in fault mode because of the coding for the temp. When I manually lower the fan to say 5000 rpm from the 5880 it sets due to the fault the hashrate will drop until I bring the fan back to the 5880 rpm. Personally fan checking should be disabled to get around any issues with a fan simulator or the fan itself. I tried bypassing the checking but failed on my first attempt cgminer wouldn't even load. I screwed my board now it wont detect the fan rpm no matter what the circuit is good so I figure playing with it killed it on the processor but I did try a v9 controller and same issue with fan runs at full on the batch 4

these fans default to full speed when first kicked up unless specifically slowed down.
I'm unsure how you are "lowering the fan speed" when "cgminer wants the fan to run at a certain rpm".
And what do you mean "runs in fault mode"? What is the exact error(s)? Where is this "fault mode" seen?
where in cgminer did you try to "bypass the checking"? This one is different than the ones in the past.
What do you mean "cgminer wouldn't even load"? Do you mean you damaged the binary trying to modify it?
How did you "screw your board"? There is not a single software related activity that should "Screw a board".

Your response just creates a ton of questions.

Jason

On the batch 4 with batch 1 firmware the temps don't report on 2 of the hash boards. So because of this the fault light comes on and the fan is set to full speed. If I use a fan simulator or reduce the fan speed thru the PWM line the rpm must be reported as at least 5880 which is what the machine set the fan at due to the fault light if the simulator or fan don't report 5880 or higher cgminer will lower the hash rate and even drop to 0 this seems to be based off the rpm the lower the rpm the lower the hash rate the higher the rpm towards the 5880 the rate picks up. So if I leave the fan run full rpm it hashes away just fine at full hash rate. This could be due only to the fault being triggered by the non-reporting of the temps correctly.  I am waiting for another controller so I can play with it some more. I don't know why this one lost detecting the fan rpm and so far I haven't been able to disable this feature of cgminer. cgminer at startup wants to check the fan rpm and monitors it for any rpm below 1440.

I screwed the input on the board when I shorted it out moving a fan simulator. The error I get is no fan detected and loops on a fan check. Fault is seen in kernel log. Yes I screwed the binary modding it simple fix was reload firmware. Used pwm line to play with fan speed a 100k variable resistor between it and the gnd will vary fan speed. Unhooked pwm line from controller to assure no contact between gnd and controller side of pwm. The processor itself is not detecting any rpm signal. Checked the resistors they test ok so only other thing could be burnt the input on the processor. If I can get past the fan check it will mine just fine so basically I need the fan check and monitor to look for 0 rpm so it will continue to load and hash

fan pwm is checked against rpm and rpm is checked against fan pwm. if those checks fail, the pic is disabled.

i think you are analyzing that section of the disassembly incorrectly.

i also think you may be off base with your understanding of "batch4 with batch1 firmware" and why you are not getting lights you expect also... .and I expect the light blinking issue is easily resolved. but i'm probably not going to spend any time with batch4 minis since they were not distributed outside of china as best i am aware.

goodluck.

jason
589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 18, 2018, 01:14:21 AM
one thing I noticed is that if the fan is set too low manually on the mini batch 4 the machine will cut speed back accordingly. So if the controller sets the fan to say 4500rpm and you drop it too low the speed will reduce. The batch 4 mini's need a fan simulator and other hw mod to fan to run batch 1 firmware unless you don't mind the fan running 100%

What do you mean "cut speed back accordingly"? Are you saying the frequency and hashrate drops?

Otherwise, I would not expect a "fan simulator" to not act any different than a regular fan in the condition you have described.

Another point on the "batch 4 minis" is that I believe their availability is only mainland china?

-j

If cgminer wants the fan to run at a certain rpm and you lower it below what it is expecting the hashrate will drop and eventually goto 0. The batch 4 mini I have been playing with runs in fault mode because of the coding for the temp. When I manually lower the fan to say 5000 rpm from the 5880 it sets due to the fault the hashrate will drop until I bring the fan back to the 5880 rpm. Personally fan checking should be disabled to get around any issues with a fan simulator or the fan itself. I tried bypassing the checking but failed on my first attempt cgminer wouldn't even load. I screwed my board now it wont detect the fan rpm no matter what the circuit is good so I figure playing with it killed it on the processor but I did try a v9 controller and same issue with fan runs at full on the batch 4

these fans default to full speed when first kicked up unless specifically slowed down.
I'm unsure how you are "lowering the fan speed" when "cgminer wants the fan to run at a certain rpm".
And what do you mean "runs in fault mode"? What is the exact error(s)? Where is this "fault mode" seen?
where in cgminer did you try to "bypass the checking"? This one is different than the ones in the past.
What do you mean "cgminer wouldn't even load"? Do you mean you damaged the binary trying to modify it?
How did you "screw your board"? There is not a single software related activity that should "Screw a board".

Your response just creates a ton of questions.

Jason
590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 17, 2018, 07:31:29 PM
Hi there. is there an eta on the Z9 Mini's firmware ?
Will it be free or licensed?
thanks

bigjee, the Z9 mini variant will be released at the same time or 1 day behind depending on how much I get completed. I intend to release the Paid/DevFee combined image before midnight Eastern time on Sunday.

I'm in the process of packaging it all up for testing now; if I make good headway on that, I'll work on the mini modifications (base firmware will be the same, only some changes in cgminer otherwise) and release soon after.

I was hoping for a combined image, but there is not a reliable method (so far) to identify which hardware is which.

Paid users will have to upload a license file to the image on the 'Upgade' page, an example is included below:



Thank you,

Jason
591  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Pool for sale on: November 17, 2018, 02:19:09 AM
You have like a dozen miners, what amount could you possibly be asking for ?

This was effectively my thought along with “and it is probably the seller’s miners”.
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 16, 2018, 08:45:32 PM
Any updates for those who paid for the first version?

badbart - it is the same image as the picture above -- that is just example. It also has a 'licensed' mode.

So it will be released at the same time.

Jason
593  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 16, 2018, 07:20:33 PM
Release is really "Soon(tm)" now for BOTH the dev and paid users.. It will be the same image for both, just different modes based on the license file... a sneak peak of what is to come below (the text in 're-enabled' being off is because of the watermark box).

When this is released, I will be disabling developer fees for a few days as an apology for the time it has taken me to complete this next version.



Thank you,

Jason
594  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 16, 2018, 03:51:37 PM
one thing I noticed is that if the fan is set too low manually on the mini batch 4 the machine will cut speed back accordingly. So if the controller sets the fan to say 4500rpm and you drop it too low the speed will reduce. The batch 4 mini's need a fan simulator and other hw mod to fan to run batch 1 firmware unless you don't mind the fan running 100%

What do you mean "cut speed back accordingly"? Are you saying the frequency and hashrate drops?

Otherwise, I would not expect a "fan simulator" to not act any different than a regular fan in the condition you have described.

Another point on the "batch 4 minis" is that I believe their availability is only mainland china?

-j
595  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 16, 2018, 05:44:45 AM
Folk,

quick update -- I've finished the major components and I am in the process of "zipping the firmware up". By that, I mean going through the stages of testing, validation, bug fixing, web UI updates and ultimately packaging the firmware itself.

I was hoping to include nicehash support in this release, but so far the documentation I've received from nicehash on why these are not working does not seem to be correct. It could be my own knowledge of the stratum protocol (which is limited), but... the proposed fix is not working and after spending a few hours looking into it in more detail, I've decided to table that feature for this release.

net-net, I should have an image to a few beta testers in the next 24-48 hours.

Thank you,

Jason
596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 15, 2018, 03:59:27 PM
Price of paid z9 firmware?

dev-fee version available at the top of this thread. I am not currently selling new licenses.

thank you,

jason
597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 14, 2018, 02:40:00 AM
One thing that could be changing is the code on the PIC on the hashboard. Depending on how it is programmed can explain some differences between the batch hashboards and rates

more likely it's just the addressing of the devices in the chain.

-j
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 13, 2018, 09:43:25 PM
Cool the odd thing is the firmware on it is the same as the firmware currently on bitmain. It only has balanced for freq options.  The batch 1 fw runs fine with only 1 board reporting temp. I ran your z9 2.0d and stock z9 firmware on this mini it runs fine but same thing no temps on any board but it clocks up to 737 stable your fw also unlocked the 4th port on the controller so I could run an extra hashboard where the stock mini only allows 3.

Wait...what??! Ur running Z9 FW on your Z9 mini and it works fine? Shocked

Dev fee version has always worked, the issue has been the temp controls and such which is why I have not been recommending it

Jason

Sorry for asking, ive been using your 2.0D on my mini batch2.

Automatic fan doesent work, but i can manually set it and it works Smiley Using push/pull with 2 fans.
Temp reading seems to work on 1 board i still got numbers on the other boards but only like 15 and 7c.

But my hashrate is fluctuating alot.
With batch 1 firmwire its between 14.0-14.4  Average 14.3ksols at 662MHZ Highest i can go.
With your FW its between 12-18k Average  14.7ksols at 681MHZ

Its kinda like 2board jumps up to 6-8 ksols and one board goes down to 2-5ksols.
next its the other 2 board that jumps up and another one goes down.

are you aware of this? Smiley and sorry again for asking about the mini when your priority are on payed biggies Smiley

and great job btw!  Grin


Ignoring the fluctuations, what you are seeing for improvement is about what I'm seeing in the testing I've done so far (14.3 to 14.7 in your example). On I can sometimes get more out of the units, but it depends on things I don't yet have understanding on.

Hashrate will naturally fluctuate otherwise -- that average (and the work submitted in terms of shares) is really what is the best indicator.

The other items you mention about temps/fans are things I am aware of as I previously mentioned.

Thank you for your feedback!

Jason
599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 13, 2018, 06:11:47 PM
Cool the odd thing is the firmware on it is the same as the firmware currently on bitmain. It only has balanced for freq options.  The batch 1 fw runs fine with only 1 board reporting temp. I ran your z9 2.0d and stock z9 firmware on this mini it runs fine but same thing no temps on any board but it clocks up to 737 stable your fw also unlocked the 4th port on the controller so I could run an extra hashboard where the stock mini only allows 3.

Wait...what??! Ur running Z9 FW on your Z9 mini and it works fine? Shocked

Dev fee version has always worked, the issue has been the temp controls and such which is why I have not been recommending it

Jason
600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Efudd's Z9 Firmware: V. 2.0d now available (Non-Paid!) - Updates in post# 299 on: November 13, 2018, 01:07:42 PM
I figured it was a batch 4 now I need the batch 2 firmware dated around 08.12.2018 to see if it recognized the temp and the fan quits running at 5880 rpm. The 08.31.2018 firmware works fine it just cant overclock it set at Balanced only. If I cant find the batch 2 firmware  im gonna run it as is and put a variable resistor inline to lower the fan some

Probably means addresses have changed a little. Ill “add it to the list” and unlock that image later on.

Jason
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