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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 01:01:31 PM
There is also more info here:

http://www.enterpoint.co.uk/cairnsmore/cairnsmore1_support_materials.html
582  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 12:59:56 PM
My apologies for the testiness of my post.

I do believe if you scan back you'll find answers.

Look for posts from yohan with large graphics for quick scanning.

In fact, you might look at his profile and just look for his posts to make searching even faster.
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 12:44:58 PM
To be a bit more precise:

To an accurate number 95% of the time.
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 12:35:29 PM
So Yohan, there is a lot of other switches on this board, what do the rest do, or do I start play guessing games with seeing what they do?
You have 68 pages to read to 100% catch up on this topic.
I suggest you start doing it in reverse chronological order looking for your answer.

By your tone, my impression is that you are asking to be spoon fed answers without trying to find them on your own.

If doing that research is too much work, then yeah, I suggest you start randomly flipping switches and see where that gets you.

BTW, it takes a full day, or two, for the cgminer U metric to be fully settled down to a solid number. Actually, longer than that, but a couple of days will get you to about a 95% accurate number.
585  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 10:13:36 AM
I also suggest you don't try to discount / disregard the until '800 MH/s is reached' price statement.

Enterpoint needs to either honor that, or you need to confess that you spoke out of school and Enterpoint is not bound by your statements. (As distasteful as that might be.)

This audience has been hyper-sensitized to stated commitments which are not subsequently honored. Perhaps not fair to Enterpoint, but it is what it is.

Enterpoint's biggest advantage at this point is the reputation you have established in this forum. It might be a bitter pill, but that reputation needs to be upheld or take a hit.
586  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 10:03:47 AM
A fair reply, thank you.
And thank you for your continued contributions / presence in this forum.

I do suggest that, as you have already indicated you're switching over to, a de-emphasis needs to be placed on support - to a near level of nothing - and the admittedly finite resources prioritized to internal/primary product development and tuning. Of course, you have to make a judgement call as to how much this 'support' effort provides value to knowing what changes/revisions are required in the core hardware/firmware.

Everyone who has one of these in hand now purchased it under the statement that 'you are on your own', you are expected to be able to break your own trail or be patient until better firmware comes out. It was sold as 'beta' / 'developer's toy' with no commitments to any level of performance.

IOWs, current owners can make it better via their own resources or hold their horses until improvements are ready for general availability.

Also, IOWs, I approve of how Enterpoint has been doing business. I know it is hard to ignore the cries for assistance from current, pre-release, customers, but priorities must be set and followed.

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However, I really do appreciate the much improved graphics and documentation about DIP switch settings / behavior and the other incremental releases of 'stuff'. Smiley

Whatever can be done in parallel without jeopardizing mainline progress is a good thing.
587  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 09:12:49 AM
BTW, yohan, it is really not my intent to bust your balls about this.

IMO, you / Enterpoint have been vastly more upfront in communications than 'that other company'.

I'm merely trying to keep the story straight.
588  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 09:08:01 AM
"The second decision is that until the we reach 800 MH/s on Cairnsmore1 the offer price will be available for any new orders. The 800 MH/s performance can be by any available bitstream and that changeover is at our sole discretion."

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78239.msg973986#msg973986

589  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 07:57:30 AM
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Pricing we said we would hold until end of June initially and then we have extended up to now. It may be that ET's bitstream isn't working and we might be wrong in that change based on that. We are not actively involved on that development so only know a limited amount. But it is no real effect on existing customers so you are not being asked for more money on existing orders. We do need to change pricing at some point to cover our costs in supporting this product.
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"Pricing we said we would hold until end of June initially"
True.

My guess is that what surprises some people is the subsequent statement, IIRC, was that the original pricing would hold until a proven 800mh/s performance level was reached on the shipping hardware.

IMO, some see that as a statement / commitment which has not been honored.

Of course, please correct me if such a subsequent statement was never made.
590  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 07:13:40 AM
On the other hand, however, perhaps they have a proven solution 'in hand' and need to announce the price increase before the solution lest they get flooded with orders at the 'at cost' / 'at a loss' price point.
591  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: July 16, 2012, 07:10:36 AM
now that the price has been jacked up

I was quite surprised by that announcement. I have seen no proof that there is a way to currently get, at least, 800mh/s out of these things. With the new price structure and basically a statement of "trust us, we'll make it right" they have now placed themselves essentially in the same position of a notable other seller of mining hardware.
592  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Singles Order Date / Ship Date on: June 25, 2012, 11:20:54 PM
Perhaps. As with all things BFL, we will know for sure when we see it actually happening.
593  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Singles Order Date / Ship Date on: June 25, 2012, 11:17:29 PM
Oh. No problem. I thought you were referring to the $700 I mentioned, not his initial outlay.

But there is another potential issue I've not seen discussed yet for overseas buyers. Many or most of them paid a VAT (or equivalent import duty, whatever) fee on the original $600 purchase. When/if they upgrade, I bet they will have to pay that fee on the new equipment valuation of $1399 when they receive it. In effect, having paid double on the first $600 worth of the new $1400 piece of equipment.
594  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Singles Order Date / Ship Date on: June 25, 2012, 11:03:24 PM
$600 you mean?
No.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/

"What’s a typical trade in example?  A customer can trade in his 832 MH/s Single and get $599 credit towards the purchase of a $1,299 SC Single.  The end cost to upgrade to 40 GH/s would be $699."

Plus shipping and all required taxes / fees.
595  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Singles Order Date / Ship Date on: June 25, 2012, 09:45:07 PM
If I purchase a BFL Single now for 700 (shipping included ) am I right in understanding that when the ASICs come out , I can send them back the Single, pay the extra say 600 and I will be offered the ASIC?
Close. It is another $700 (and then shipping on top).

The exchange option expires in March 2013.
596  Economy / Marketplace / Re: ["WAIT LIST"] BFL Singles Order Date / Ship Date on: June 23, 2012, 04:13:59 AM
Thanks for maintaining the list, tarrant_01.

Trivial BTC tip sent.
597  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 21, 2012, 05:40:54 AM
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Type: cp /mnt/*.bit . <return>
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You left out the period at the end.
(According to your post.)

And I have no idea if the previous steps in the guide have actually left you in the correct "current directory".

That command can be read as:
cp <copy> /mnt/*.bit <all files named *.bit from /mnt directory> . <to here / current directory>

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Whoa! Disappearing posts. Now I have replied to a post which doesn't exist.  Smiley
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 21, 2012, 05:28:15 AM
cp takes a from and to location. You only specified one. (First arg is the source, second the destination.)

Also, recommend leaving out the period.

I.e.,
cp /mnt/*bit <destination>

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Also, if you are new to UNIX / linux, you will want to use the "man" command a lot.

man <command>   will present the documentation for <command>
599  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 21, 2012, 12:07:14 AM
Excellent followup.

Atta-boy, ebereon!
600  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Quad XC6SLX150 Board - Initial Price £400/$640/520€ on: June 20, 2012, 11:30:15 PM
This is only a temporary solution!
And I think it is a fine temporary solution.  Smiley

Was merely asking for clarification. Which you provided, thank you.
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