FTFY. 

Well that answers one question... if you actually worked for comcast you wouldn't like either of those manufacturers.

Actually - you're incorrect on both companies.

Paypal's layoffs are a sure sign that the company is struggling. Now given that they're enmeshed with ebay they probably won't go away entirely, but I'd be downright shocked if we don't see them being reduced to 'one of many' on the billing side of ebay within the next year or two.

Apple's on the way out. Job's is gone - and Apple's already too greedy to survive much longer. They'll ride idevices for another few years before the tech ages enough that they can't just reskin it and call it an upgrade, and then itunes will carry them for 5 or 10 more years, since people who've invested in purchases there won't walk away from it quickly.

But with Google jumping into the tablet market (and frankly destroying apple on cost, usability and tech) and microsoft redesigning windows to power handheld devices it won't be long before apple is exactly what it's always been before - 'advanced hardware at time of release, but no innovation and no ability to adapt to the marketplace' - aka it will settle to 15% of the market again.

In addition to this opinion (which I entirely agree with btw), is that none of these issues should be addressed by the ref.client - store the blockchain however you'd like to, mine it to calculate timestamps on transactions you're interested in. The vast majority of users don't need this functionality and probably don't even know why they don't want it.

Don't forget the added shipping cost. Additionally, the weakest is going to your usb hub. assume you're looking at 10 littles vs 5 singles. If your hub dies - maybe you have 6 usb on the motherboard. half your hash down until you've replaced that hub. If you keep replacements on hand, then you've driven the initial cost up. If you don't, then you're better off with the singles, because at least you probably plug all 5 into the mb and still have a port for a keyboard to launch your mining software.

I've just got a 3 singles being upgraded (2000 ish order numbers) --- not doing the rest until it's inhouse production. I'm planning on getting a couple of sc rigs (or maybe a lot of bASIC depending on power numbers). Even with BFLs current numbers, bASIC is still more hash/$. But there is some added cost, due to not getting power bricks with them and having to rig up a stack or mounting board.

It doesn't make sense right now to keep piling on with with pre-orders. Unless your goal is to diversify by ordering from different makers. At this point might as well wait until they're in the wild and see what actual numbers are.

The confirmation that the existing foundry would be used for the first wave of ASICs has forced me to delay upgrading the rest of my fpgas. The QC at that place is just sloppy - so chips that aren't flush.

I don't really think I'd want a rig that comes from there... hopefully they'll get fully in house before the second round... up the quality a bit.

That's much more likely - little single is the way to get rid of under-performing singles... disable some acis - downclock to get the right hash rate... or if a chip isn't stable at the 60gh range, just underclock it by 50% and sell it for half price.

I see what you did there...

I can't think of anything more fun than firing some old radio equipment and knocking drones out of the sky.

No. It's his manner that makes him come off as crazy. Listen to anything where RP is speaking live... half the time he sounds perfectly sane and the other half he sounds like he's senile. That's the reason people think he's crazy, because of the 'drift off' and him losing his train of thought.

Not entirely canceled by merchants cashing out... what I'd expect to see is they routinely cash out enough to cover costs and save the remaining bitcoins. Eventually, they'll be able to buy from their suppliers in btc and they'll stop changing it to fiat in general. . .

Yah - this guy doesn't understand much at all.

Crime doesn't stimulate anything. . . see 'broken windows fallicy' 

Also he's incorrect about saying it isn't scalable. Linear costs very scalable - having a fixed cost per user/customer is measurable and easy to define a business case for or against. Most service industry business is linear and scalable... see 'premium tech support'

Nah that's ok.

Gary has a serious marketing issue. He's the poster child for fiscal conservatives pretending to be libertarian, although he's at least honest about not being a libertarian. He missed the republican nomination and shouldn't run at all (if he's ethical) because any votes he takes from romney lends to obama getting a second term.

I think RP is a non-starter. He's just too crazy, too old and too out of touch with the modern age.

I actually feel bad about him pushing some good ideas (like flat tax) because it tends to scare the moderates to the point that they dislike the idea...

IMO RP supporters need to get over it, write him letters, convince him to fund an articulate younger candidate that shares the core values but someone who'll be able to speak without sounding like a loon.

I'm pretty sure he would except most of his 'supporters who would actually vote for him' are probably in mental clinics and the like.

Ron Paul is basically a death association tool for the mainstream. He's a total loon who just happens to "believe in" some good ideas in addition to everything else. If RP really wanted to help the ideas he supposedly believes in, he'd sit quietly in the background and pay so someone more respectable could present those ideas.

Phin. You sir, rock.

Good people break bad laws. That is true of speeding and of drug use.

Legally wrong doesn't equate with morally wrong.


Pump&Dump is morally wrong - drug use isn't.

heh - won't de-rail your thread with a bidding war - Just don't pay more than BFL sticker price for them.

You'll get the same offer I've given elsewhere - 550, and you pay shipping.


*Never pay full price for used hardware.

I'd buy em for $550 - no higher.