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581  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: May 09, 2017, 09:23:08 AM
Maby some days and ico finish.

Raised  $2,625m / $3m

The way the ICO is progressing I believe the funds will be collected within a weeks time frame and ICO would be closed

any exchange already targeted???
hope liqui or poloniex...
could be a good choise...
It's too hard to get on Poloniex  Wink Probably we'll be able to trade on Bittrex and Liqui.
We will see if it's going to be popular in Bittrex and Liqui. Hopefully it can succeed so that it can be put in Poloniex and other exchangers.

Getting listed on polo is so much harder these days. Matchpool are encouraging their community to keep reminding Polo to add it and they said, its possible to be added quickly. So if we'd like ETT to be added as well, we might just be doing it too. I guess polo depends to the number of requests too just like some exchanges who asks for votes.
I do agree. If many members/investors/traders supports/vote ETT to put in Poloniex, it would be easier for ETT to finally put in there. We are hoping it can happen so that ETT can sold more of their coins.
Yes , me too but the final decision will be on the Encryptotel Team what exchanges they will put it .Polo is not guaranteed that it will pump the price .And it is not too easy as we think it is good to hope for better even it is not on a big exchanges.
582  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: May 09, 2017, 02:21:07 AM
Most of the recommendation here is to invest in trading and that is good recommnedation and also investing in gambling bankroll can gives you good profit but make sure that you invest in trusted gambling site. Do not bite if someone offering you higher return and moat of that is a scam.
Trading and gambling is also good but i think current time is very best to hold your bitcoin because you can see that bitcoin price increasing on daily base and someone has no good knowledge about trading or gambling they can hold their bitcoin.

Trading is a good place to invest bitcoins but I completely disagree on gambling part as that is the best place to loose our money in quick time and at this high price of bitcoins we cannot afford to loose even a single penny of it as it takes really hard work and very long time to earn even a small part of bitcoins so I will prefer to stay away from gambling and to make good profits will choose trading over gambling.
i do not know that why many people are against of gambling i think gambling is just for enjoyment but sometime we try to earn some profit but lost and win is depend on our luck we should not blame to gambling because gambling is the way of entertainment and earning money.

Yeah if you are gambling for fun then there is nothing wrong with it but if you are depending only on gambling to make money or for living then its a total disaster as most of the times you will be loosing your money in it but if you are gambling with an amount that you can afford to loose then no need to worry.
In gambling all play for the sake of quick earnings, but in the end it loses and as a result, depends on loans.

Everyone is well aware that they cannot get positive results from gambling but still everyone try their luck in it hoping to make quick money and end up loosing everything and it is the worst place to spend your money where you will not get anything in return.
but i try many time in gambling i win and get a good profit many time and i just lost my money few times because that time i was not expert in gambling now i am a good and expert so risk is minimize and profit maximize.
Well its good for you to have earnings on gambling ,however it is not advisable to treat gambling as an investment if you only played to win .Many people got broke their lives because of too much playing that results in gambling addiction .But i think it depends what will work for you to earn money .I merely suggest trading rather than gambling.
583  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: May 08, 2017, 11:18:38 PM
Probably they just joined the bounty campaign and hope for more time to get more free tokens.
Maybe they have joined the bounty campaign only last week but I also hope to get more free tokens but if it will end soon then so be it. It is not only them that hopes for more free tokens but also the participants right now even those who participated in encryptotel's first weeks wants some more free tokens too I think. This project is nice but raising the cap I think is not necessary.
Everyone who joined in bounty is definitely wants more stakes ,but the problem is the maximum cap is only $3M in exact for it to finish .
Why did you said that the cap isn't necessary? For me its okay because they are more focus on stablishing and not on how many max cap it will reach.
584  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY] [ICO] EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP blockchain communications infrastructure on: May 07, 2017, 03:01:59 AM
Wtf is with this spammer?


May be,but we need to have some solid proof to prove that these are all one

Spammers very much. I hope the manager will solve this question Smiley



Guys, we know what we're doing right now. I already told you we will solve spammers issue. Don't worry, some people will have surprises!
Nice caught . I think it doesn't need a solid proof because by joining with a streak of UID profiles isn't just a coincidence??  Wink
By looking at the spreedsheet list you can identify some of it and they are many .

It's really awaited surprises for that who are trying to cheat.
585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: May 04, 2017, 08:51:51 AM
It sure can!

Check my thread..

Is this your thread mate? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516941.0 You surely got an impressive choices. I thought that by just being an investor to a reputable casino will make gambling reputable for a longer term. But upon seeing your thread, you prove it that if a bettor has a good predictor and source, it will be profitable.
Do gambling have a good predictions ? I think it is only for sportsbetting even a good source will not give you a gurantee that playing for a long term of gambling with those will be profitable .Then if it is profitable you don't need to go long term if you can make money now it is the same if you have a good predictor.  Wink
586  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: May 04, 2017, 07:37:11 AM
the best way to earn money in emergency is working i think. i haven't been desperate need of money but if that happens i will try to take as many part time jobs as i can because it surely give me money quickly although the amount is not big. And in my free time i will try to find as many as signature campaign, facebook campaign or everything i can do to earn myself even a little amount of money.
To think in your point is a good thing ,but in some situations like its urgent or emergency that have a deadline .The fact that you can't do anything because your mind is thinking in a way to have money fast as soon as possible .You can do work ,signature campaigns and other what you said after to pay for your loans or debt. You need to think up fast some other way to have money that day .
587  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 04, 2017, 07:06:06 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas
There is no other thing you can do on what you are looking or but joining signature campaign and bounty program. Thsi has less risk and quite steady,  depending on your campaign.
If you want bigger income, signature campaign will not give you that, better look for a job or learn how to invest.
There is risk in both of my recommendation but there is no other way to make decent income here.
Yeah , Joining in a signature campaign is not forever all it stops .For the mean time it will give you a steady fix income on it but when this campaign ends there's no income same as work in real job .It is a better to have many choices we don't want fix or steady income stuffs ,things ,and food price are are rising .How can you get on it if you only want steady income ,find more better ways which gives you a higher salary to enjoy and have a good life.
588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know if a gambling site is scam or not? on: May 04, 2017, 06:18:22 AM
I have never played gambling on a scam site, maybe because I just always try to play on sites that have been famous like direct bet, or bitsler. Well, I'm not interested in trying to play on a new site, because it has a big risk to be a scam
The only reason why a site will be a scam is because they may be experiencing losses or they in genera; don't like paying high profits to it's users. It is clearly visible we see so many sites like fortunejack, rollindice, bitseler and god knows many more sites are there. If they were facing loses they would have stopped long ago. Starting a gambling site is basically pure profit in long run. All the owner has to do is keep patience and build that important trust.
Well I guess that would be one of the reasons because they would not give up their reputation if they are making constant profit, gambling sites are making good income due to the increasing adopters since bitcoin gambling sites are popular since it gives convenience to the gamblers.
Yes , a gambling site would not scam or run if they have many players . The only reason i know that a gambling would scam is having not enough funds to run his site or they have a system failures that leads them to lose .We can't go against the house edge ,they have the most money and winnings only small percent of their money will take of those winners .Theres no way for a gambling site to scam ,so far i don't experience and hearing a news tgat a gambling site scams .They only hold some amounts from gamblers winning withdrawal.
589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Planned or impulsive gambling? on: May 04, 2017, 06:02:03 AM
I generally try to avoid many of the casino's most of the time, but I really do get a sudden Impulse of going to the site if some other person brags about their winnings lmao.
I would generally pay less attention to the fact that someone is talking about their winnings and the positive moments in gambling. Because you do not know where the truth is And where lies. I'm used to the fact that gambling does not provide an opportunity to become richer and only poorer.
I agree, and i guess you have your own life not to follow for what someone taught. If you believe on someone's winning well its a fault why ?, you are attracted by the winning he won even he won it.Your playing capability is not like him ,you luck is different from him .Planned is better than going in a battle without anything in mind.
590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: May 03, 2017, 03:19:11 AM
For me to think that it isn't a sin because you do not doing anything wrong you are just having fun playing or making money .Then if you spend your money in bad things or to make you money you will do bad its a sin .Gambling isnt a sin only the things that you will do with the money you have .If you do good and just play its not bad .
591  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: May 01, 2017, 10:23:52 PM
I keep a close watch on different ICOs and try to buy them when they are not yet listed on trading sites so I buy them at very cheaper rates and sell when I see higher price on sites once they are listed as its the most easy way to make profits.

But investing in ico also involves a huge risk as I have seen in the past that when coins get listed on sites they simply disappear in a single day and only the owners make profits from that and majority of investors are sitting on loosing end.
It depends in ICO ,it is a risk everything is you are responsible for the investments that you made .As far as i know more ICO now and coins are going in good progress of price after releasing and available to trade . I suggest before to invest make sure you have research  on it ,how a coin will succeed based on the projects of it.
592  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: May 01, 2017, 10:07:49 PM
you mean at the end of the ico? but the end can be anytime.
I don't get your statement , if the ICO it ends on May 31 .

project is progressing really well. maybe in the future States in a private conversation in the conference call and use.

successful team , assistants and of course most importantly investors.
Yes ,this is already successful if we base on movements and its team behind on it ,Plus the uniqueness of this project.
593  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: April 30, 2017, 11:04:59 PM
Yes,there were many children or teens now are playing gamble .Additional things is if they know bitcoins they will be more free to gamble their money .Some of the bitcoin gambling sites dont even have restrictions on gamblers because they will dont identify the user if it was underaged or an adult one.
More young people are into gambling activities though they are under the age of 18. This happens with the usage of payment gateways that provide ease of fiat usage for any need. And as said if they were aware of bitcoin the process once again becomes very simple that they can involve without much problems.
That's true, due to lacks of policy in bitcoin online gambling, that gives minors to gamble and at a young age they can start to enjoy what is gambling and worse thing is when they get addicted because they cannot easily manage their emotion. I guess parents should be more responsible now that technology are moving fast and minors are a lot smarter than before.
You are right, Most of gambling site that accept cryptocurrencies, They don't ask for ID or anything to prove that you are over 18 years, and you are allowed to do gambling. So minor nowadays, they come to use btc for gambling. by the way there is a lot of ways of playing bet by minor. So as you said 'I guess parents should be more responsible'

Parents can't control their kids for 24 hours full they have other things to do like work for hours even parents who probihited their kids to play internet, if that happen kids maybe go gamble offline with their friends not on casino ofc, i saw my friends doing offline betting on sports betting and they're under 18 ages.
Its their will to gamble ,the reason i think is not the fun its for money matters .If a teen have a lot of money gambling will be lessen it will be only a past time but if a teen have a lack of money to buy what he wants he will be push himself to gamble to earn money. Yes ,even you are prohibited to play online there is a will if you want.
594  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: April 30, 2017, 09:32:46 PM
Well lately i took a loan . That time im desperate of money well i took a loan to my friend because i really need a money in my life so i took it and sometimes im selling my items in real life so that i could earn money. But now it gives me a lesson i should have a bitcoin for emergency instances because  if i dont have i having a loan again

You don't need bitcoin actually. All you need is proper money management and you are set for all those emergencies (knock on wood.) The reason why people are forced to take loans in dire situations is because they don' know how to handle their finances properly and tend to spend much on unwanted items rather than focusing on necessities.
True , it doesn't mean you will only save because of bitcoins ,even you have bitcoins if you dont know how to handle and where to spend your money you can't save that time .Just say the truth that you only realized that thing to save is because you already experience the situation withoit having a saving for your emergency needed.
595  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Poloniex To Delist 17 Altcoins In May Without Explanation on: April 30, 2017, 06:11:30 PM
For me, Poloniex is doing a harmful action to its users and the crypto currency enthusiast in general and showing traders and investors lack of respect. I can understand when a trading platform like Poloniex removes the stagnant volumes but when a project is still moving and some devs are working really hard then suddenly you found your coins delisted, then it really sucks. It just shows the Poloniex has no concern whatsoever with the altcoins, they are just upsetting their customers. At least they should have warned them instead, so that they would make effort to let their coins be active.
You're right in that point they must have contacted the dev or team and yet to delist some coins when the roadmap or projects still on going as you've said is not good .I think we need to know what are their reason of doing that although if it is not moving for a long time it maybe a reason for them to delist it .But to announce first that there will be a delisting of coins incase so the traders will be aware of changes in exchange site.
596  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🔥[ICO]EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: April 30, 2017, 05:56:11 PM
How many funds have been raised so far? can this be tracked? how close to cap?

At this time : Funds raised thus far $1,448,148.30.

ICO close if raised 3 M $

It would not be hard to reach $3M Cap we are almost in the half way .Maybe it will reach this coming weeks of May hopefully .
597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: April 27, 2017, 02:03:20 PM
Small investments make sense only if you do it every now and then. Like to make an investment every fortnightly or monthly of some fixed amount.. May be its just 0.01BTC or 0.05BTC. Just one time investment of that much amount will not be any useful for the future.

If you think that making few dollars of 0.01 btc or 0.05 btc might be useful in the future then go for it. You should get better profit in using those to trade rather than let it sit in a gambling site. You wont be making much money and even if you do then you will need to wait quite some time before you actually made it
Perhaps, He will hold bitcoin until bitcoin prices soar. so do not look it in the form of money, remember when bitcoin price $ 220, 0.01btc only $ 2.2  now you can see the current price. small or big isnt a problem as long you can accept it and the investment have big potential.
Actually what johnwest said even though you just invested small amount of btc, you must keep investing your money in every month with fix amount. Investing only 0.01 btc and wait for bitcoin price rises is not a good idea. When bitcoin price still $220? It was around 2 years ago and you only "profited" $11.2 (1$13.2-$2.2), this amount doesn't worth with the time which you have wasted in 2 years
The idea is there but investment for almost 2 years of 0.01 isnt enough .Think on it ,it is sure you can't only invest 0.01 in two years unless you dont want add some amounts on it. Even though $11 you profit it make sense but it is on yourself how you should make your investment worth a cents.
598  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ICO] EncryptoTel: Secure VoIP and B2B blockchain communications infrastructure on: April 27, 2017, 12:24:43 PM
Anyone know how to view the weekly list to get stake? I have completed 12 posts along with in thread here. But still 0 stake
There is no weekly list it is manually updated weekly .
Well it is written there in the marketplace Bounty Thread that saturday is the counting and update of stakes just be patient .
12 post ins't need to be done only here and it must be constructive post to be counted .I hope it help .
599  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: April 26, 2017, 05:03:10 AM
i think that the difference not only at the digital funds and physic money, cause real money will never ever and ever change the number of amounts, You know the dollar value also change if you convert it into other country currencies am i right? Like that BTC value also change that's it.

In my view, you are right, the different is not that bitcoin is digital currency and real money has physical appearance, The main different is that bitcoin's digit increasing very fast. For example, we could see the yesterday, i see bitcoin was $1230 and now in today bitcoin is $1275. It is a different in digital currency that give us profit. But in real money, people can't earn a profit except they use it in a business. 
That was a good point there ,its the volatility that makes the bitcoins more differential in fiat money. And we are lucky to know bitcoins right now unlike others who keep on finding some good investments and instead of legit one they are more into some fast money but easy loss . Real money is limited and hard to earn if you dont know how to spend wisely.
600  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: April 26, 2017, 04:44:32 AM
After reading some of the pages of this thread I just wanted to add Yes, The price of Bitcoin Matters.
If a person has a fix pay in bitcoins no matter if the price is 100$ or 1000$/btc, then the price of bitcoin matters for him a lot as the price increase will give him more money. If he has fixed pay of 0.1/btc, then he will get 10$ @100$/btc and 100$ @1000$/btc so it matters to him/her a lot.
Also, if Bitcoin price goes up many people will think to invest in it and would like to adopt it. More people=more interest=value increases=price goes up.
Yes, you got it all. Thats how adoptation in blockchain and bitcoins in some country become to spread . This is because of the big growth of the bitcoins price within a years more than a gold investments . So the volatility of bitcoins attracts more investors to invest in the long term .
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