Im not sure what you are debating about exactly, so I will let yourself declare yourself the winer . Looks like your ego badly needs it.
No it's you talking BULLSHIT  .. What substance does religion hold ?..NONE but lies to control how you BEHAVE .. Yeah mister guru who know enough by knowing nothing and winning the debate. You want the medal of forum debate winer ? Maybe that would make you feel better. |
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Im not sure what you are debating about exactly, so I will let yourself declare yourself the winer . Looks like your ego badly needs it.
If you have more interesting arguments than pedo & genocider, that can be worthy of calling à debate about evolution or religion.
But that seem to be above your intelectual capacity.
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maybe you should start by reading the bible..Waste of time Yes it's much quicker to talk out of your ass making generality about something you know nothing about. Very scientific. If you dont want to take the time to read it, then dont waste your time trying to pretend you have any clue of what it's about. Know enough to know it's all about control.. No ? go and ask the children who's vicar stuck his fingers up their BUTT HOLES.. Controlled his fingers right up their asses ..<control .. UK so religion to me is like water it's everywhere  .. Religion is another form of father Christmas ...Bullshit stories .. It's not the truth lol I already been in court to send pedo to jail, he was not catholic or Christian. Dont instrumentalize victim to make your point, that will get you nowhere. Not even showing respect to the victims, like if you gave a shit about them outside of making your point. Bullshit is everywhere, true religion, much less. If you think human are just like a thermostat controlled with a thunder, that show how little you know about anything lol Hell is not central topic in the bible. Neither is satan. Satan is barely mentioned a few times. It's not really what bible is about. But of course you already know enough without even knowing anything about it. |
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Ok you got the controller from engineering term.
So that mean evolution is engineering ?
And bible is like blue print to define human.
I guess that's the logical conclusion.
But maybe you should start by reading the bible actually, that would be a start instead of living in the conditioning without even opening it.
maybe you should start by reading the bible..Waste of time evolution is engineering Well sort of.. .. We have evolved to use SCIENCE our brains .. Like imagine if we was cold we would evolve more hairs to keep us warm?.. Well not in the 21ST CENTURY we have evolved BRAINS and now instead of growing hairs to evolve we would use our brains and invent something to keep us warm so no need to grow hairs anymore.. And now we use EVOLUTION SCIENCE ..We evolved to use SCIENCE to make us live on.. HUMAN SEED PODS..Made by the earth to carry on LIFE.. SCIENCE IS THE KEY TO LIFE.. Our brains have evolved to use SCIENCE for our ADVANTAGE .. Science is part of EVOLUTION..Evolution is part of science.. And where does science come from already ? Fire was not invented in a 21th lab by academicians lol If it was for them we would still be debating in our cave in the dark lol |
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maybe you should start by reading the bible..Waste of time Yes it's much quicker to talk out of your ass making generality about something you know nothing about. Very scientific. If you dont want to take the time to read it, then dont waste your time trying to pretend you have any clue of what it's about. |
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The burning times: The Christian extermination ... - Religious tolerance www.religioustolerance.org › Laws & religion › Genocide › Burning Times The burning times: The Christian extermination of Witches and other heretics. ... or a tool of the common people to name scapegoats for spoiled crops, dead . So guess what they burned you like god would .. Religious CONTROL^^^^^.. My gran father was burning church in spain revolution you know  Technically im refugee from franco. Catholic are not Christians. And communist exterminated people too. Even the french revolution exterminated catholic. It's the nut job genocider contest ? |
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Ok you got the controller from engineering term.
So that mean evolution is engineering ?
And bible is like blue print to define human.
I guess that's the logical conclusion.
But maybe you should start by reading the bible actually, that would be a start instead of living in the conditioning without even opening it.
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COSHH regulations.. Why coshh because you need CONTROL.. Temperature control is verifying the temperature, not changing it  ..You are BADECKER .. Come on Badecker own up it's you talking BULLSHIT again .. remote control is now a verifying control .. Without control plenty of forces will change without control.. COSHH regulations. <I PASSED MY TEST had to so i could work.. Temperature Control & Process Heating | RS Components uk.rs-online.com › Home › Automation & Control Gear Control your temperature more effectively and save energy bills at the same time with the RS Components range of temperature control and process heating products. You will find temperature controllers, electric heaters and transmitters as well as immersion heaters and halogen Control Rods - Nuclear Power www.nuclear-power.net/nuclear-power-plant/control-rods/Control rods are used for maintaining the desired state of fission reactions within a nuclear reactor. The rods are an important safety system of nuclear reactors. verifying rods ... Tig Welding Steel and Controlling Heat Input - YouTube Video for controlling heat rods▶ 12:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmVCLi6cxok1 Apr 2014 - Uploaded by weldingtipsandtricks Tig Welding Steel and Controlling Heat Input .... the old icy-acetylene torch with fluxed brass or copper clad .. See some of us WORK in the REAL WORLD .. No fairy tales but WORK WORK WORK.. You are Badecker or his BROTHER .. Religion is about CONTROL just like a thermostat .. It's not good ethymologic use of the term. But im not BADecker Religion is not about "control" lol If you think human are so easy to manipulate, that already say a lot about your own capacity of critical thinking If religion is to be compared to something such as nucleair engineering, then it's science  Or a linear system that allow predictible outcome. It allow the same than science. Even better because science cant "control" people. In real world, im not BADecker or his cousin, or anything. But I already shown what the bible say on the topic, if it make too much cognitive dissonance for your brainwashing, I will let you at it lol Have a good day of WORK WORK WORK thinking the whole internet is Badecker Human are not computer or machines Maybe you should take some vacation from WORK WORK WORK and meet some real human. But ok control can be used in that sense too It's not the original meaning, but ok by derivate it can mean this, maybe if you only communicate with machine it make you see the world à bit too much in a robotic maner. But I assure you the real world is not limited to baddecker and the matrix you live in with the WORK WORK WORK. But maybe you prefer to be an ant who only WORK WORK WORK. In that case that make sense that you think everything is about control. Personally I prefer to go to the beach I can assure you it's real world to. Maybe you are to busy to WORK WORK WORK to know it idk. Maybe you re so weak minded that you can do everything if someone tell you if you dont you will be hit by thunder. Maybe that's why you WORK WORK WORK. Which of course has nothing to do with control. And anything that is not under control is not real. Or anyone who is not like in your WORK WORK WORK is baddecker. But im not psy either. |
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It's just a bit the cognitive dissonance in one side if a belief allow to predict something then it's useful science. But then religion allow to predict the outcome of a saying on the behavior of "whole population" flawlessly, which science is totally unable to do. If religion allow this, then you have your application and accurate prediction. Then it's science ?  Religion is just a book, it's doesnt do thunder, it doesnt punish people .. Then if someone get into a reward / punishment sheme to accept a belief, it doesnt matter if there is proof or not, that's still conditioning .. Can be done with science, and with anything else. And if anything, in the bible it's more the story of babel tower. The bible say how Christians should deal with non Christian, and they dont say you just come with a whip to push the belief, on the contrary, if anything it advocate more socratic method. I can quote many part of the bible that show this. " But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort." "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms" https://youtu.be/C_XARuatCK4 If anything they say love is more important than the righteousness Then that there are nut job conditioning people or their children with punishment to make them accept Yes, that's called fascisme, the nazi did this, the communist did this, no need for religion lol When has religion predicted or been applied to anything? In science, a prediction is a rigorous, often quantitative, statement, forecasting what would happen under specific conditions; for example, if an apple fell from a tree it would be attracted towards the center of the earth by gravity with a specified and constant acceleration. The scientific method is built on testing statements that are logical consequences of scientific theories. This is done through repeatable experiments or observational studies. It's not just predicting a war or vague predictions. You are saying yourself it can "control population" that's your own saying, not mine If it enable "control", that suppose prediction. . |
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Consider the nation of Israel. It is a small nation. It is a powerful nation to make an ally of the USA and other nations. People from around the world consider themselves people of Israel, even though they don't live there. Many of these people attempt to keep their genealogical ancestry history record as up to date as they can. Most of them accept the Hebrew Old Testament as truth traditionally. They are supporting the dictates of the Bible record in their nation. What story book? There is no Bible story book. It is a written record, and the very powerful little nation of Israel proves it. There is no nation with any story book that even begins to approach the traditionally sound records of the nation of Israel... records that are evidenced in the Bible. Wake up. Ancient Egypt is dead. Ancient Assyria is dead. Ancient India is fractured a million ways, as is ancient China. There isn't any ancient Japan; modern Japan is a nation stuck on money and close to collapse financially. Their stories are the stories you are talking about. The Bible is a record. The Bible is bigger than life. Judaism is not zionism |
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Read the bible and replace every instance of god, devil, angel, etc with 'alien'. It's a very enjoyable sci-fi story then. Of course, it would be better with signourney weaver in there somewhere.
I think that would be more true with old testament than the new. The old testament is very weird on many regard with this. The new testament is more gnostic myth, "my kingdom is not on earth" etc |
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It's just a bit the cognitive dissonance in one side if a belief allow to predict something then it's useful science. But then religion allow to predict the outcome of a saying on the behavior of "whole population" flawlessly, which science is totally unable to do. If religion allow this, then you have your application and accurate prediction. Then it's science ? Religion is just a book, it's doesnt do thunder, it doesnt punish people .. Then if someone get into a reward / punishment sheme to accept a belief, it doesnt matter if there is proof or not, that's still conditioning .. Can be done with science, and with anything else. And if anything, in the bible it's more the story of babel tower. The bible say how Christians should deal with non Christian, and they dont say you just come with a whip to push the belief, on the contrary, if anything it advocate more socratic method. I can quote many part of the bible that show this. " But the one who prophesies speaks to people for their strengthening, encouraging and comfort." "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms" https://youtu.be/C_XARuatCK4 If anything they say love is more important than the righteousness Then that there are nut job conditioning people or their children with punishment to make them accept Yes, that's called fascisme, the nazi did this, the communist did this, no need for religion lol |
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Wrong answer Control is a passive thing. Control is checking the conformity to a model. It come from catholic comparing register to check if they match. Controling something doesnt change it's state. Controling something doesnt change it's state... So if i take your land by control .. So now you gone from a HAPPY state to a SAD state .. Like temperature control if it's not controlled your substance what you was after wont be what it suppose to be.. Many products need temperature control..<<Controling something doesnt change it's state. BUT you just been proved wrong.. Control a bad child to become a good child..<<Controling something doesnt change it's state. BUT you just been proved wrong.. Control the masses to be good tax payers and some are not so good and get let off by the controllers I.E the politicians.. Temperature control is verifying the temperature, not changing it Controling a child to become good child you do this with a scientific magic ward I suppose ? Control is passive thing. If you influence something, then it's not merely "controlling" The state of the thing. |
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brainwashing you with science..
That's fine because then you need to show me PROOF..
Brainwashing me with fairy tales that hold no substance then i don't want to know..
You and i know humans come to be because the EARTH made us this way..
So now that you know that for FACT so then you ask how did we EVOLVE on this PLANET..
And that means EVOLUTION THEORIES ..
What proof have you be shown of anything lol You just get brainwashed to get A ans swallow what teacher say .. That's just conditioning like religion lol |
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Define control Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you, therefore achieving control over the population at the time. Religion appeared because of ignorance..NO BECAUSE OF THE THUNDER.. Just think when you was a child and the stories you would get told to frighten you Like a ghost story and then they say after the story if you don't stop doing this i will get the ghost the monsters or hell BUT you have been told a STORY to get you thinking about these monsters gods ghost and what not.. Now just think the BIBLES are stories to get you thinking JUST like when your a child getting told a GHOST STORY.. To control how you BEHAVE.. STORIES make you think.. Don't do that or you will die.. OH WHAT EVER.. Don't do that because some guy i knew once done this AND off you go with your stories to hit home more.. But all about CONTROL.. Nothing to do with ignorance we likes STORIES Life is scary, if you are so much of a coward, brainwashing you with science or religion wont make much difference .. And yes you can die, life is precarious. That's even what darwin say, if you are too dumb to understand thunder, you will not survive .. Religion did not invent death or thunder .. And religion is not all about reward & punishment, job show this, if you only keep your faith to expect a reward , you are doing it wrong. This stuff of reward / punishment conditioning is more pavlovian than anything .. It's not really what religion are about. Jesus died on the cross for his belief, rather than having his faith to avoid pb lol His teaching was not especially about avoiding thunder .. |
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Ignorance mean willing fully not seeing something. Different from nescience. Ignoring is an active decision not to see something. What are people or population "ignoring" in the case ? How can you blame religion for people ignoring things. . It's their decision. And only knowledge of something give power on this thing. So if religion enable power on something, it mean it contain knowledge about this thing. If religion is false, or complete false hood, how can it be used to change intentionally anything ? |
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Wrong answer Control is a passive thing. Control is checking the conformity to a model. It come from catholic comparing register to check if they match. Controling something doesnt change it's state. |
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Define control Religion appeared because of ignorance. However people were smart enough to take advantage from it. As the other guy said, they would tell other people: Do this or this god will punish you, Science apeared because of ignorance too, if we already knew everything and being perfectly happy in a world of peace we wouldnt need neither science or religion. therefore achieving control over the population at the time.
Define control If you dont I will give you the definition to show how this sentence is not as meaningful as you would think it is |
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