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5801  Economy / Economics / Re: Did COVID-19 Bring Any Positive Sign? on: May 20, 2020, 11:05:00 PM
Everything should have positive and negative sides. Those things you stated above can be a positive sign only for people who still can live normally during the pandemic. But for people who are struggling hard because of the pandemic, the bad signs/sides are still bigger than positive ones. You know, many people have no jobs or fired because of the pandemic. Many companies must be closed and even they cannot survive because of Covid-19. Moreover, we cannot predict when the pandemic will be over and we can go outside freely. Well, this means even if there are positive signs but it cannot cover the negative signs. IMO
5802  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: May 20, 2020, 10:36:05 PM
~ Still there is no assurance of profit both ways.
In this aspect, you make both are the same. No guarantee for profits because it should depend on the individual. I think that is true but trading should have a rather higher chance to take profits than gambling. We can take the chance in trading better if we trade with sufficient knowledge and already have experience. While in gambling, for some games, it never creates a higher chance even if you have good knowledge and experience. It requires "luck" (dice, roulette, slots, etc).
5803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A new survey shows that UKs gambling addiction is getting worst day by day. on: May 20, 2020, 10:26:53 PM
Its my first time to hear up that someone get addicted when they do tried out to help someone's addiction problem.So this mean that they do accompany them with their gambling habits?
Same here, I also just heard that addiction can spread from helping addicts.  Cheesy
I am not sure how they help the addicts but if they don't play gambling games, they shouldn't be addicted, too. AFAIK, addiction means we do excessive play without self-control. This only happens if we play gambling games almost every day or even many times in a day. So, you may be correct if they help by accompanying the addicts. It seems a bit strange way!  Grin
5804  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO] Signature Campaign [Hanya Pembayaran Bitcoin]| Ter-Update !!! on: May 20, 2020, 12:02:42 AM
Sepertinya kontes pemilihan peserta anyar Sigcamp ChipMixer periode ini sudah ada hasilnya. IMO, 1 peserta terpilih sudah bisa diprediksi dari awal, dan yang ke dua cukup surprise.

Username: Fillippone
Username: Trofo
Accepted, send me a PM when you change your signature. Probably another acceptance in the next few days (though I'm not 100% decided yet).

Masih ada kemungkinan penerimaan participant anyar walupun belum pasti.
5805  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: May 19, 2020, 11:45:13 PM
~it's probably the most profitable industry because gamblers will always come back no matter what is the condition.
Not really!! Gamblers can come back if they have funds to play or they have the intention to play, right? Once they have no money anymore and they may be trapped with loans, it is difficult to expect they come back. Or maybe they have already cured of addiction in gambling and committed to never play gambling anymore. These two conditions can happen anytime for each gambler, and it is really possible. So, don't so easy to judge that "whatever the condition", they will come back!!  Wink
5806  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bitcoin meng-Angkasa, Sinkronisasi Blockchain Tanpa Internet on: May 19, 2020, 11:34:12 PM
Mungkin ini bakal jadi alternatif yang sangat menarik buat mereka yang tinggal di remote area dan harga internet/GB/MBps sangat mahal.
Alternatif bagi area yang benar2 terpencil dan jauh dari jangkauan jaringan intenet. Kalau masih bisa dijangkau oleh jaringan internet umumnya (kabel), saya rasa orang-orang masih bakal pilih internet umumnya. Selain karena masalah biaya lebih murah, jika ada trouble pun lebih gampang nyari solusinya karena tinggal menghubungi CP layanan yang ada (lokal + nasional).

~Yang jadi hambatan kalau pada konteks ini adalah kemauan untuk mempelajari dan menerapkan teknologi baru.
Kalau dari sudut pandang Blockstream memang iya. Tapi kalau dari sudut pandang client nya, jelas masalah efisiensi biaya. Seperti yang Om jelas kan di atas bahwa biayanya bisa mencapai jutaan /bulan. Sedangkan dengan menggunakan koneksi internet biasa hanya menghabiskan kisaran 200-300 rb /bulan.
5807  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: WTS Jasa KYC Exchange ( PALING MURAH ) on: May 19, 2020, 10:54:41 PM
blm pernah gw nemuin case spt ini sudah lolos tiba2 diminta KYC ulang + live video,
Belum pernah bukan berarti tidak mungkin kan? Saya tanya hal ini pengen tau saja, apa jaminannya dari ente.
Ada atau tidak? Kalau tidak ada, ya tinggal bilang saja "tidak ada". It's simple to!!

mau transaksi J atau M nih atau malah T? biar gw sesuaikan jaminannya
Nah kalau ada jaminan-jaminan semacam itu, ya dituliskan di thread, Om.
~Transaksi J jaminannya apa?
~Transaksi M jaminannya apa?
~Transaksi T jaminannya apa?
Coba tulis keterangan jaminannya 3 hal tsb. Biar orang jadi yakin untuk jadi client ente.


Eniwei, saya tidak bermaksud untuk order lho Om. Grin Saya masih cukup bisa untuk KYC sendiri kalau saya mau.
5808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you feel this pressure on physical gambling? on: May 19, 2020, 10:30:51 PM
To what extent can a gambler be considered a professional ? I dont think gamblers are called professionals because this is not a job.
I agree with you. Being a gambler should be not called a professional, it is not a career or job. Even some people stated that playing gambling is only about to have entertainment / have fun. How can a professional do this? It is not really appropriate to call a professional. Get more serious activity to call as a professional.

Nothing can be perfect in gambling, because every player still needs luck to make them win even though they are very experienced at gambling.
Yes, in some games, luck is playing a more important role than skills or experience. So, even if we are skillful gamblers who have various experiences, it is still not enough to win the game if we have bad luck in playing.  Cheesy
5809  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is the main purpose in gambling, always to make more money? on: May 19, 2020, 10:22:20 PM
You made the right choice to withdraw before playing again.
Sometimes when you win, you want to play more and eventually you are loosing all the money you have.
You are right. It is the way to secure the prize from winning a certain gambling game. In several cases, after winning, the prize can disappear instantly if we continue playing and force our selves to have bigger prizes. It is better to break temporarily after winning and continue playing again tomorrow. Make our mind calm first!!  

This behavior comes from the fact because the main purpose of gambling is to make money.
But remember that not all gamblers have the main purpose to earn money. Some can play gambling games for fun only without thinking about profits or losses. I saw in several discussions that they really play to get entertainment only. It is a fact!
5810  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What does Gambling really mean to you? on: May 18, 2020, 11:54:16 PM
It seems there are some content or words you got from certain sources. Kindly put or enclose the source links on the OP, mate. If you don't do it, people will consider it plagiarism, like what Jawhead999 said above.

Regarding what gambling means to me, it is something that has 2 purposes.
1. A place to have fun after a tiring day of work.
2. A place to try my luck to earn additional money.

That's mine. Others may be quite different!  Cheesy
5811  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: COVID 19 dan Resesi 2020 on: May 18, 2020, 11:40:13 PM
hati - hati baee kalau mau nyimpen bitcoin, kalau mau nyetok sekarang mah mending emas dulu dehhh daripada bitcoin,

Kenapa kesannya gak yakin banget dengan Bitcoin, Om? Bukannya kalau hitung2an potensi max profit, Bitcoin masih jauh lebih besar dibanding dengan emas? Kalau masalah resiko, ya sebanding dengan potensi profit.

~ Resiko besar, potensi profit lebih besar.
~ Resiko lebih kecil, potensi profit lebih kecil.
~ Tidak mau ada resiko, tidak perlu invest.
    Nabung aja ke stablecoin atau dollar.  Cheesy

BTW emas juga bukan tidak ada fase turunnya. Sekalipun banyak yang menyatakan kalau emas itu aset yang aman, bukan berarti harganya selalu naik. Tetap perlu analisis harga dan timing pas untuk beli-jual. Saya kira tidak jauh beda dengan invest Bitcoin.



                 Grafik harga Emas dalam 10 tahun terakhir



Tidak perlu dibalas, nanti makin OOT.
Reply saya ini hanya bermaksud menjelaskan biar tidak salah paham dalam berinvestasi.

5812  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: WTS Jasa KYC Exchange ( PALING MURAH ) on: May 18, 2020, 11:05:37 PM
~~ jual akun Exchange yang telah lolos KYC

Ini kalau suatu saat si pembeli diminta pihak exchanger untuk verif "live video" karena case tertentu, padahal dengan agan sudah lost contact. Apa agan punya solusi atau jaminan gitu? Gak bermaksud berandai2 sih, tapi kan itu mungkin/bisa saja terjadi. Coba deh terangin dulu jaminan nya apa aja dari agan (bukan hanya kaitannya dengan case "live video"). Gak agan tulis di OP toh tentang ini. Huh
5813  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [LOG]Reputasi on: May 18, 2020, 10:56:23 PM
Kayaknya yang dimaksud jaminan adalah collateral alias agunan berupa token/coin/duit deh gan.
Iya bisa juga seperti itu, akun SR ke atas masuk ke requirement (persyaratan).
Ndak mungkin juga sih dijadikan collateral karena akun kan kompleks urusannya.

Akun Sr kalau kualitas postnya bagus sebenarnya bisa dapet 0.1 BTC dalam waktu kurang dari 10 minggu selama ikut campaign seperti chipmixer.
Jangan tanya kalau merujuknya ke campaign Siipmixer. Itu sih campaign idol, saya aja minder klo mau daftar ke situ. Artinya itu mah gak bisa dipandang secara genaral, Om. Nilai akunnya yang saya maksud + potensi minimal yang bisa diperoleh oleh akun tsb. Klo join Siipmixer mah potensi maksimal, namanya juga 'campaign idol'.

 Cheesy
5814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and health 🤕symptoms on: May 17, 2020, 09:18:05 PM
If any person is getting addicted to gambling ~~~, his friends and family should know this and should talk with him ~~~
Since the people who close to the addicts who can help them, the family or their close friends must know about their addiction. In most cases, the addicts need help, they cannot recover themselves. So, they need suggestions, supports, and special treatments. Their family or close friends must do hard efforts to help them, and if it is necessary, visit special health experts.  
5815  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Be a professional gambler on your own way. on: May 17, 2020, 09:05:23 PM
~~ snp ~~
Your statement seems inconsistent, mate!!
If you know you can't be Don Johnson why you still force yourself to do his way?
Even if you have the same plan or strategy and you do them properly, it is hard to have the same result.
In my view, it is better to not dream be another person, just gamble in your own way and set target realistically.
5816  Economy / Services / Re: [Crypto.Games] ★ Introduce us on forums ★ Get paid! [OPEN] on: May 17, 2020, 06:30:39 PM
Anyway, I don't see a spreadsheet of participants who joined already. And what crypto forums that are already taken by the participants. I think it is important to have it, it can prevent the request of the same crypto forums. Moreover, it should be useful to monitor the progress of this program. Thx
5817  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored. on: May 17, 2020, 06:20:47 PM
It actually breaks the rules, even all the gamblers use masks and gloves. The government instructs to close physical casinos temporarily because of the Covid-19. It seemed strange why those people arrived after middle night, it showed that they have the intention to hide the activities. If we know how to report it, then we can report it to the authorities. Even if I am not really sure it can be closed totally.  Cheesy

>Can you tell me in what city it is?
5818  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [LOG]Reputasi on: May 17, 2020, 05:10:21 PM
Lebih hati-hati aja om, yang sudah trust aja masih bisa scam  Cheesy
setidaknya sampean kenal deket atau sudah beberapa kali sukses bertransaksi dengan orang yang ingin mengajukan pinjaman
kecuali menggunakan jaminan
Betul, contohnya sudah banyak dan trust memang tidak menjamin kalau 100% aman untuk melakukan transaksi dengan suatu member. Bisa saja walaupun selama ini dapat dipercaya, pada waktu tertentu member tersebut bisa berubah karena faktor A-Z. Intinya kan member yang punya trust kan manusia juga, sedangkan manusia dapat berubah karena berbagai faktor. Memang untuk lebih amannya ada pihak ketiga dalam proses pinjam meminjam, plus ada jaminan tertentu yang bisa diambil oleh yang memberikan pinjaman jika peminjam tidak mengembalikan pinjaman.

>BTW, jaminan akun Sr ke atas rasanya masih ndak begitu ngefek, Om. Apalagi untuk yang minjam lebih dari 0,1 BTC. Rasanya ndak sebanding. Makanya pada ndak diurus kalo sudah punya case atau problem.

beberapa orang saya minta untuk menghubungi akun telegramnya dan di respon sama dia, tapi sayangnya ndak ada etikat baik untuk merespon tele dari si shasan, bahkan telegram si shasan malah di block.
Kalau tele nya shasan malah dia block, berarti terlapor memang tidak ada niatan untuk menyelesaikan masalahnya. Ya paling tidak sudah mengingatkan terlapor, selebihnya tergantung dia sendiri. Yang jelas prosedur punishment sudah jalan dan terlapor bahkan sudah diban.

5819  Economy / Economics / Re: Some Strategies to Face the Next Crisis on: May 15, 2020, 09:58:49 PM
a lot of people will loss their job, business firm and industry will shut down, millions of people will stay in hungry
This has happened already in my country, Covid-19 caused thousands of people fired and they have no jobs right now. Previously, most of them are working in private companies. In many cases, companies cannot survive because they have no activities, no income. They cannot afford to continue to bear the salary of workers. So, the solution is mass layoffs or massive reductions in the number of workers.

The solution:
- People must find out alternatives jobs during the pandemic. The most reasonable alternative is working online. Learning what online jobs that are suitable for them. Also, the government should support them to find out proper online jobs.
5820  Economy / Speculation / Re: Personally i think bitcoin is future on: May 15, 2020, 09:42:37 PM
I don't really understand what you are trying here. Do you describe your own opinion or McAfee's prediction? If you are trying to discuss McAfee's prediction, I think we have already done it many times and no need another thread for discussing it. You must know that $1 million is only a prediction and no one knows it really can happen or not, or when it can happen in the future. However, I really doubt if Bitcoin can reach $50,000 or $1 million this year. Just think realistically and learn how significant the move of Bitcoin price lately, there is no reason that it will go to $50,000 or $1 million in the near future.  
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