To both Bick & opie  Mmmmmmmm.Mm,mmm! As for other miner companies using the A1, is possible they did a clean design form the A1 specs sheet. If it looks the Bitmine/AMt one I doubt it but possible. Technobit seemed to get it right. Then again, it is nothing like Bitmine layout. |
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I am afraid that if I just release the design, then I will never be made whole. I am looking for any and all suggestions.
More to that point - that design IP, warts I've found and all else, is copyright property of Bitmine.ch and possibly InnoSilicon as well. It cannot be copied much less released to the Public without express permission of the aforesaid parties. As for a way out of your dispute and mess can't help there at all. Beyond this, mmmmm mmm mmmm mm. |
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The ravenous peanut gallery for whatever reason moved to a new shiny target? Say, Minertechnologies?
One can almost see the foaming drool dripping from their hideous maw and nearly topple over from the stench of their fetid breath as they circle their prey...
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What chip? Doesn't say in the advert for door #2. |
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If you think you will ever deserve an apology after all the shit you pulled, you are seriously delusional.
Now that I can agree with no if's-and's-or buts from the consumers view. |
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Until the community as a whole makes it clear that the emissions of folks like sirmines, RickJames and others are even less desirable than farting in a crowded elevator then their foul stench will remain among us. Just ignoring them does nothing to protect unwary folks that wander in.
Who are you trying to protect unwary folks from fuzzy?? You are trying to protect them from people who will tell them that AMT has ripped off a ton of people, but you won't protect them from getting ripped off by AMT ?? What kind of a sick POS would do that? OMG you and opie must be the same person because you are both on that side of the issue and both used the word bile. Oh shit, I'm so smart, haha you must be squirming in your pants now you troll (/sarcasm opie imitation ) From you. There is more than enough posts here from AMT's customers to make it clear they (AMT) fucked up royally There is never a need to resort to vulgar explicit sexual additions to ones commentary. As you asked, "What kind of a sick POS would do that?" |
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When APPLE creates a new IPhone - and Foxconn fucks up a huge batch of the IPHONE motherboards or chips, delaying production: APPLE doesn't tell the customers "It's Foxconn's fault!" they own up to it and refund the customer, or notify them of progress and offer discounts/free upgrades.
This never happens, because QA/QC is done on these products and they tend to exist before they are sold.
It's also APPLE, they have the $$$ to get these things DONE.
As for AMT, it's like Joshua decided one day after a few Red Bull's..."Hey I know, I'll start a business selling a product : and if the shit goes south, I won't be responsible at all - cuz yknow that's how business is done here in the USA". Derp a derp!
This isn't how legitimate business is done: this is how FRAUD is done. As the business, Joshua/AMT is fully responsible for everything, regardless of whether the manufacturer messes up, his image online is destroyed by angry customers, fedex destroys the package during delivery, the designs they bought for the miner weren't fulled tested, etc.... AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS ALL ON AMT. THEY COLLECTED THE $ FOR THESE MINERS, THEY ARE ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THE OUTCOME IS.
This is basic common sense, yet some of you want to give up your rights as consumers and grovel at AMT's feet. Fuck these assholes, they've been sitting on everyone's money for 6 months or more...they've already could of made interest on it, or mined with it, or Josh bought a new car with it... WHO KNOWS?!
Legal action is the way to go. Minimize losses and put Joshua where he needs to be, either behind bars: or with this on his record, and fined up the ass until every cent is returned.
Now that in this order is 100% true, a viable scenario and I support this ad. Is a cut & paste of a much earlier post but still a reasonable observation. |
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Awww Opie I can see you are getting flustered. Lemme give you a chance to get out of this with some amount of dignity. Stop working for these fucking frauds and walk away. I don't even need you to admit your lies, just stop making new ones. There is no question that you have asked that anyone cares about but you, and of course AMT because of your connections. You keep begging for an order number, but that isn't any of your business. I posted one a long time ago, then removed it when AMT started posting customer names and addresses here. You think that anyone wants a part of that? Grow the fuck up kid.
Hmm, per the archive site you are on record vehemently saying you are NOT an AMT customer... https://bitcointa.lk/threads/official-thread-amt.174485/page-267#post-5714944
My name isn't Rick. For fucks sake, why do half the people here not understand the joke.
As I've said, over and over, I'm not an AMT customer. I'm free to continue posting as I wish, and I will. If you are waiting for a miner, you need to be in court with these fools. Otherwise you are just giving them time to get away / spend the money.
RickJamesBTC , Mar. 31, 2014 #5326 Now you say you are a customer?? For the record bold emphasis added by me. |
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You think this agency can get us our $$$ back HuhHuh?
Depends on who gets 1st dibs at any money left, Feds/State or the lawsuits. Can't hurt to add another complaint to the pile I'm sure the agency has. |
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^^ ditto
If they want to continue to show everyone that they are vile-minded trolls without the intelligence or creativity (much less a valid reason) to have a civil discourse, so be it.
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Until the community as a whole makes it clear that the emissions of folks like sirmines, RickJames and others are even less desirable than farting in a crowded elevator then their foul stench will remain among us. Just ignoring them does nothing to protect unwary folks that wander in.
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^^ That has been tried. Glad you find this just as nasty but... Unfortunately some folks that have no reason to be here - as in are not customers that have sizable amounts of money on the line - persist is venting their bile out here every chance they get.
Time to shut these jerks down until they prove they are customers. Not only here but any other threads they foul with their presence. If they are customers, then rant away in the threads for that mfgr as it is their right, otherwise bugger off sirmines and others.
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Opieum, what do you think you could do with my order number? Have AMT post my name here? Who the hell do you think you are (AMT employee) that I would care what you have to say about my posts? From the beginning you have been an AMT shill, you continue that now. AMT is not in trouble now because of you, you are an irrelevant little shit that AMT has bribed or paid to help out. AMT is in trouble for ripping off hundreds of people and never delivering working miners. The reason this is still an issue, is because AMT comes here and lies, blames customers for their problems, and whines like a stupid child. I can't believe how immature the people working for AMT have been this whole time, since the beginning. Remember when they got all pissy, deleted posts, whining about how customers are so mean to them?
You sir are a clinchpoop. Look it up. In fact, here, easy for you though the 1st 5 or so that come up probably fit as well http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CEQQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.oregonlive.com%2Fedge%2F2013%2F04%2Fthursdays_edge_stop_groaking_m.html&ei=ndaTU9evIYyI8gGV-IHwDQ&usg=AFQjCNHMWjkw6qCxRhF7hO14HM-44RNfbQ&sig2=liaS4LesL04GcQXSsarChA&bvm=bv.68445247,d.b2UThe point is that if you are not a customer then ya should leave us to fight our own battles and go get stuffed. We do not need you here. |
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sirminesalot ^^ Asshole. Hope your trolling pays well. I don't need to verify jack shit to you. Actually yes you do if you are going to continue foaming at the mouth over irrelevant matters. You need to prove to us customers here you are not just another loon on a soapbox much less a paid troll. All evidence so far points to the latter. |
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Pleading for money back and whatnot; ya it's annoying. Ya it's irritating. I don't like it any more than the rest of us. But I have attempted to call AMT at least 100 times. I have left countless messages and emails. I have posted here looking for answers, often to not find none, or be flatout ignored. Do I like complaining? Absolutely not. But besides asking for it, I can't think of anything else I can do. I just want my money back. I don't dven want a damn miner anymore. By the time anyone gets one, they'll be completely useless. It would seem as though I am in a room full of multimillionaires who could care less about a few thousand dollars. If that's the case, I will happily accept $6000 from any such person who is bothered by my attempts to reclaim my investment and I will never say another word on this forum. I'm sorry I have to subject others to it, but I've tried every non-public or "official" method of contact and I don't know what else I can do. I honestly just accepted it as gone for a while but my personal finances have suffered recently and I need all the money I can get so I have resumed trying to get what should be rightfully mine.
"who could care less about a few thousand dollars" Oh so very very wrong there... Read back even a few pages much less say 1 every 10 pages back and you will see everyone here is rather pissed in some way about how this turned out. Every single one of us care very much about out investments made here. Many very very pissed but after venting for the past few months at least they moved onto other actions eg, legal. Others are trying to help them to help US get something back for what we paid. More than a little disquieting are those who ordered but are just now coming out of the woodwork...Welcome to the Misery Pit. What took ya so long to find this place?  Too bad there are also those here that have NO skin in the game and come here just to jump wildly around and rant over whatever flits through their heads at that moment. Some are just self-righteous folks on a soapbox for whatever reason, several are paid for it. You know who you are. Things are what they are but resolution is coming. Whether it satisfies everyone - doubt it but is a start to ending this cluster fuck. |
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What do you guys think about this Novello Technologies?
They sound like they at least have things planned well. The 40nm chip node is an excellent choice as it opens the door to using many many more foundries around the world to produce the chip keeping the cost way down. Using 28nm is getting into the area of diminishing returns for power usage and cost per-die. At 20nm power usage and benefits go out the window for this market not to mention the number of foundries that can do it. |
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No, because that is just a dumb idea. We keep writing on this forum because we know customers like yourself will just flip and start writing the worst crap, so in general it is a necessity to maintain some presence here. We are working on a better solution for that as well.
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Like any engineering enterprise, you got to validate some initial prototypes work out the issues then go towards mass production. The Bitmine and AMT boards were labeled revision 3, so there were at least 3 attempts to fix issues. In fact, the latest Bitmine board doesn't look anything like the previous AMT rev. 3 board. It has 10 chips instead of 8 chips.
Now if a company takes the risk of going for a full production run without adequate testing, that is a risk they take. However, that's the gamble you make when you claim delivery earlier than everyone else. The penalty for failure should fall on the company and not the customers.
Ya nailed that one. Unfortunately with an angry mob outside the gates complete with pitchforks and torches screaming "WE DEMAND OUR MINERS!" Bitmine et-al decided to punt & fumbled placement. Several times. Them pulling a BFL and saying hold on, we are still testing, would have brought the same response from here that they got anyway. Wonder if the 10-chips is to underclock them yet still meet hash speeds?... |
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AMT_MINERS - Well put.
Doubt many will get and understand the message you tried to put across though.
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