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5801  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 26, 2014, 03:36:24 AM
As for the new miners in production - lets just say as far as the miner designs go: Lessons learned and not repeated..

However, it is more than very worrisome that so far only the 1 has surfaced...  Huh
5802  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 26, 2014, 03:21:52 AM
<ranting so snip> You think that if the thread was just left to a paid shill like you <more bull - snip>
For the 'official' and if needed legal record I have to date:

Received zero return on the $4089 I spent with them.
Received zero payment of any sort from AMT et-al.

For the sole purpose of doing qualified professional 3rd-party forensics of the designs and hashing boards - gratis mind you - I have received:
   1 pc TH miner case with cage and backplane. Yes arrived poorly packaged but mostly intact for testbed purposes. Ditched the case, just have cage holding 3 hash boards. 2 Briefly worked. Of the 2 - one still sorta does and is my sole remaining 'operational' reference.

  8 of the AMT hashing boards in total including the above - all non-functional in one way or another, several minus heat sinks and as-received from the CM. All from the various versions produced before attempts at production of the oft-revised designs as given by BitMine.ch and produced by the CM up to May-June (?) or so was stopped. No idea on the exact dates.

   2 main controller boards with pi's and cables. Minus the SD cards btw. Used my own and Josh sent me an image of the software.

   Diagnostics time to date: including pouring over the schematics, BOM's and looking up/through component data sheets, microscopy to verify physical construction & components used (and approved substitutions), hardware testing as in signal timing integrity, voltages, etc.: 47 hours. Again all Gratis for the BTC Community. btw - my commercial paid rate is well over 200$/hr when on-site. I am good at what I do. Very very good.

In other words - I have a forensics testbed and components all of which per contract remains property of AMT. I found EXACTLY what the problems were/are with those hash boards and reported to AMT what I'd found.

From only the hardware point, just who is legally responsible for the myriad of issues with the original miners and to what extent is for the courts to decide. I can categorically state that of this mess perhaps the ONE thing that AMT has done right is not shipping more than a hand full of what was produced. Things would be far worse here and elsewhere...
From the customers point - AMT and AMT alone are who is on the Hot Seat. Hardware issues be damned their general business plan has been sketchy at best.

So much for being a paid shill, eh?
5803  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 25, 2014, 08:28:41 PM
That's all you do here Opium, smooth stuff for AMT, go get life....You have been criticized previously here also from other members..
Roll Eyes Hmm.. members like sirmines, RickJames, and a few others who's only apparent purpose on the Forum here and in other threads is to try and kick over the kettle and fan flames despite never having bought (or tried to buy) gear from the companies in question  Roll Eyes Useless drivel - boatloads of. Useful information - zero. Their and your ranting opinions ain't worth diddly.

Bet your 2nd favorite pastime is to look for people on buildings so ya can shout, "JUMP!, JUMP!"
5804  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 24, 2014, 11:28:30 PM
<snip>

I don't know exactly how many watts it is pulling, nor do I have a gauge but maybe the interface can answer your question. The power supply can be seen in the case below and a close up picture of the power supply. The tower case is a standard size case, you can see all my pictures on page 125 of this thread. The web interface shows Utility and WUtility those read 22.6 and 86.24 respectively at the current moment. I have supplied pictures of the web interface and you can see those read 32.30 Utility and 84.07 WUtility.
I am using an APC Back-UPS BN4001 as the battery backup. Used a standard 110V computer power supply cable and the miner has been running well and the boards are cool enough to touch. I'm not well versed in electricity academics so I'm probably not the best candidate to answer these questions.
<snip>
About the UPS, ever do a pull the plug test? I've found that miners do not like standard off-line ones even if only pulling 2/3 of max rating. I've switched to real true always-on-line ones like this good for 1,300w/1,5kva http://www.cyberpowersystems.com/products/ups-systems/smart-app-ups/paragon-series/ol1500rtxl2u.html Zero-transfer time with them, rock-solid 120v out even with only 90v coming in.
From TigerDirect was $547 or <drumroll please> 0.86somethin' BTC. Yep. TigerDirect takes BTC. Just too cool... I also have the 2.2kva one for 4 oc'd Ant s1's (1.8kw for ~800GH total - but still easily paid off and feeding themselves + profit Smiley ). Of course they display all the info you would ever want on power & condition as well with simple front panel display.
5805  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 18, 2014, 01:12:33 PM
Another 30 out today. Please be kind enough to post that you've received a tracking number. Thanks.
Does make one think a bit...
Me being #1565 @ 30 per day..... eep
5806  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 16, 2014, 11:53:24 AM
Stop deleting my posts!
As a 'hero member' you know the sub forum guidelines - the OP can do whatever they damn well please with yer noise. Just be glad it is only deletion ya yutz.
5807  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 01, 2014, 01:37:12 AM
No argument there. BM.ch seems to have recovered from those mistakes much better.
5808  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 01, 2014, 01:17:23 AM
aside from many/most of the backside thermal contact pads having anywhere from 25 to 50% of the thermal contact bumps not being there... Make nice jacks for pushing the board away from the sink.

Folks who still have miners unreturned can easily unbolt the heatsinks and verify this. If the bumps were such a problem to make properly then even a thin copper foil shim would have done the trick.

But when mechanicals/thermals are not assembled properly and you just keep putting power on unit after unit that was delivered working, you end up with a huge scrap pile.  
No argument there on the scrap factor. Thermal bumps are not final assembly. They are either on the board at time of production or not. And yes  continuing to bolt on sinks and burn, er, run the boards when they have such an easily seen by eyeball & felt by finger defect certainly not very smart.
5809  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 01, 2014, 01:00:54 AM
aside from many/most of the backside thermal contact pads having anywhere from 25 to 50% of the thermal contact bumps not being there... Make nice jacks for pushing the board away from the sink.

The big silver dots are smushed (as they should be) thermal bumps. Most are not present at all. Folks who still have miners unreturned can easily unbolt the heatsinks and verify this. If the bumps were such a problem to make properly then even a thin copper foil shim would have done the trick.
5810  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: July 01, 2014, 12:21:08 AM
Just tossing this out there for general information:
http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/the-workbench/4421218/PCB-layout-tips-for-thermal-vias

http://circuitcalculator.com/wordpress/2006/03/12/pcb-via-calculator/

http://m.eet.com/media/1200036/XLamp_PCB_Thermal.pdf

Those are examples of standard industry practice reference items for thermal via design. Even if not explicitly specified in 'build-to-print' any CM should:
a. Knowing the thermal needs for the A1 assumed maximum thermal transfer is needed meaning; heavy-plated thermal vias at a minimum preferably filled as well, and a full complement of thermal contact bumps on the bottom of the board that are high enough to go past the gap created by green screen layer to make firm mechanical contact with the main heat sink. btw, that layer creates a 3mil air gap. If there are a few bumps but not a full complement - that gap just got increased to 8-10mil. Thermal compound is not going to make up for that...

b. Flagged the above concerns and asked their customer to verify what is needed to meet industry-standard practice for working with high-power packages. If the customer is unsure then follow Best Practice and overkill the issue.

Then there is the matter of basic Ohms law... If the value of 1 component in a divider network is changed while leaving all others the same - the result (output) from that network is vastly different. To keep the network balanced all components need to be scaled by the same percentage.. Even if a customer signs off on the ECN I still would have insisted on a signed declaration spelling out the result of said change just to CMA.

I will leave it up to the Peanut Gallery to figure how this applies to us here Tongue I will say that a power chip missing over 50% of its expected cooling path combined with getting hit (very briefly) with excessive core voltage is not long for this world... These are all items that any CM with a design team should have found in initial design review and later design change reviews and known how to address properly.

All this of course in no way gets AMT off the hook for this mess. No matter what they are the ones that have to deal with it. It is just a glimpse into what the production problems were. Their horrible lack of communication skills is a whole 'nother matter and well worth the tomes that have been written here.
5811  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 28, 2014, 03:21:33 AM
Does sure seem that way... Wink
5812  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 27, 2014, 06:34:09 PM
opieum your naivete is almost entertaining to read now. you could not be any less insightful to what's going on here.  nevertheless, you paint yourself as this AMT tragic hero sent to save us all from zipkin. your ignorance comes out with everything you type in regards to the lawsuit. this message is not to YOU but to everyone forced to read your bullshit. opieum your not even a tool anymore to zipkin. you have become worthless to him and even more worthless to those of us forcing his hand. stop posting man. you are making yourself look very bad.
What in the hell are you going on about? Off yer meds again? 'AMT tragic hero'Huh ROFL with no idea how you came up with that one... He (and I) are in no way defending AMT and how they have/are handling this situation. That has been explicitly said over and over. We are however trying any way possible to get something done for us customers. Note the key words -- 'any way possible'.

There are always more than one way to fight a battle. Your route is NOT the only way. Our paths may be different BUT at least one of our goals is the same: One way or another us customers getting what we paid for. Why is it so hard for you and few others here to grasp that concept? Huh

Fuzzy you lost ALL credibility when you admittedly signed a NDA with the devil. keep picking the pieces up for Zipkin - I hope it works out for you better than it has for opie.
Spoken like a true Sith Anikin. Hope you will enjoy the scorched earth and ashes in your wallet that your approach calls for.
5813  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 27, 2014, 02:23:02 PM
opieum your naivete is almost entertaining to read now. you could not be any less insightful to what's going on here.  nevertheless, you paint yourself as this AMT tragic hero sent to save us all from zipkin. your ignorance comes out with everything you type in regards to the lawsuit. this message is not to YOU but to everyone forced to read your bullshit. opieum your not even a tool anymore to zipkin. you have become worthless to him and even more worthless to those of us forcing his hand. stop posting man. you are making yourself look very bad.
What in the hell are you going on about? Off yer meds again? 'AMT tragic hero'Huh ROFL with no idea how you came up with that one... He (and I) are in no way defending AMT and how they have/are handling this situation. That has been explicitly said over and over. We are however trying any way possible to get something done for us customers. Note the key words -- 'any way possible'.

There are always more than one way to fight a battle. Your route is NOT the only way. Our paths may be different BUT at least one of our goals is the same: One way or another us customers getting what we paid for. Why is it so hard for you and few others here to grasp that concept? Huh
5814  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 27, 2014, 02:32:04 AM
The thing is WHY are you posting information and not AMT? You are helping them convey a pretend message that all is going well. Well y'know, your pics mean nothing to me. AMT should be responding and not you. Every turn you make you defend them. Now you're trying to show proof of progress on their side which was a tactic they did themselves months ago.

You truly want to help them, apparently you have the inside track somehow. Make them communicate directly!! After all is AMT YOUR company or theirs?Huh
We have been beating him over the head on that point. Ultimately it is Josh's call on that and as usual, well, we've seen what it has produced so far.... Roll Eyes

The pieces are all there for this cluster fuck to start to be addressed. As to if they actually come together AS A START to settling things as best it can be -- no idea.
5815  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 27, 2014, 02:19:27 AM
One has to wonder... did all the players in this never ending list of miner maker/assemblers belong to the same frat house or something??? They all sure seem to have followed the same game plan...
5816  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 26, 2014, 03:45:33 PM
If I had to guess they are in China. This week is the Bitcoin Conference in Hong Kong. But from what they have said they also have their assembly going on in China also. So one would hope that the priority is checking on the status of our hardware and shipping it from there....


So you are saying that this is a one man operation that can't be in two places at once?

I spoke in plural with THEY....so no I didn't say that clearly....BUT now that you mention it, its possible and HE would just be sourcing the work elsewhere. Not an unheard of thing either.

What I am saying is that AMT can't seem to do more than one thing at a time.

How are they expected then to deliver the 150 miners that they owe their customers?

I think to start with they need to start answering emails. That's a huge issue. Communication as I have said has always been their worst problem. Most of their issues stem from the lack of communication.
And lets hope that AMT are not looking to use these folks for the production... http://bittech.hk/
Recent events regarding *their* A1 rigs... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=409701.780
Seem familiar?
5817  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 19, 2014, 10:45:41 PM
Fuzzy brought up an interesting fact today. Did anyone else notice there is a shortage of miners. Israeli's, and a few US sites are sold out, and bitmain too...

That's because they do ship their miners, not like you. And also the other miners are much better than yours. What a surprise!
But that does not address the question... New mega pharm or cloud operation clean out the supply?? Even scrypt miners from GAW are sold out.

Bitmain I can see considering their new s3 is just around the corner. Hell, the s2 was probably mainly just to burn off the inventory of their BM1380 chip and at 640 of them per miner did a damn fine job I'd say...

edit: Hmm... just looked and the s2 is back to sale open. Damnit... Decisions decisions, wait to see what the s3 sells for or get another s2 Undecided And the Spond's are still sold out.
5818  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: June 15, 2014, 06:22:35 AM
 To both Bick & opie Lips sealed Mmmmmmmm.Mm,mmm!  Lips sealed

As for other miner companies using the A1, is possible they did a clean design form the A1 specs sheet. If it looks the Bitmine/AMt one I doubt it but possible. Technobit seemed to get it right. Then again, it is nothing like Bitmine layout.
5819  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: June 15, 2014, 05:21:11 AM
<snip>
 I am afraid that if I just release the design, then I will never be made whole.  I am looking for any and all suggestions.    
More to that point - that design IP, warts I've found and all else, is copyright property of Bitmine.ch and possibly InnoSilicon as well. It cannot be copied much less released to the Public without express permission of the aforesaid parties.

As for a way out of your dispute and mess can't help there at all. Beyond this,  Lips sealed mmmmm mmm mmmm mm.
5820  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: June 13, 2014, 06:01:25 AM
The ravenous peanut gallery for whatever reason moved to a new shiny target? Say, Minertechnologies?
One can almost see the foaming drool dripping from their hideous maw and nearly topple over from the stench of their fetid breath as they circle their prey...
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