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5821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should we be trying harder to stop the BTC black market? on: October 12, 2012, 09:11:24 PM
I certainly DON'T think automatic weapons should be sold in an totally anonymous, unregulated market. That's just me. I respect other opinions, there are certainly grey areas in everything.
I don't understand how this statement can avoid being a contradiction.

If you think other people (that do not share your opinion) should be prohibited from buying and selling automatic weapons in an unregulated market how can this be construed as "respecting other opinions"?

Restricting the actions of other people is by definition not respecting their opinion, because you want to take action based on your opinion while simultaneously preventing them from doing the same.
5822  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope on: October 12, 2012, 08:49:18 PM
After reading the quoted text, I didn't feel it was worth my time to click the link. Yet, for some reason I did feel it was worth my time to comment.

In my defense, I'm only human!  Embarrassed
In that case here's a excerpt that contains a bit more useful content:
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For those who like the idea of Bitcoin but are disturbed by the fraud artists who ply their trade with impunity, there are several choices to consider:

1) Stick with means of value storage and exchange backed by traditional, more-or-less reasonable and predictable legal systems, where the keeping of one’s word is encouraged using the threat of draconian punishment.  However, legal systems which meet the “reasonable” and “predictable” conditions specified here are growing rather thin on the ground. So quite a few people are sure to remain interested in the alternatives below:

2) Build electronic systems based on Bitcoin (or other decentralized electronic cash) which incorporate “web of trust” mathematics.  Perhaps this could even be done in some especially-elegant manner, where a Bitcoin in the possession of a widely-trusted individual is actually worth more “units of value” than one owned by a newly-created or disgraced account holder.  Study the theory of Secure Multi-Party Computation. Perhaps a low-tech inspiration for this kind of thing could be Hawala, a word-of-mouth banking system successfully used in the Islamic world since the 8th century – and which no modern country has been able to suppress, despite plentiful reasons to try.

3) Build electronic systems based on Bitcoin (or other decentralized electronic cash) which scarcely require you to trust anyone at all – just the same as Bitcoin itself.  The weak link here is the connection between the world of of electronic currency and real-world physical goods (and traditional money.)  Possible solutions here include mechanical delivery systems, perhaps controlled by multiple parties: dead drops, “geocaches” or even autonomous flying machines:

…Or: Bitcoin users could ignore the above, as I’m quite certain they will, and happily carry on signing up for “banks” and “stock exchanges” run by take-the-money-and-run artists. And steadily cement the reputation of the system as a sad joke. And on the positive side, a few die-hard activists might thus avoid facing the firing squad.  Using Bitcoin will become its own punishment, the way sniffing glue is.  But the down-side is that we won’t learn just what sort of world is possible given a functioning, decentralized cryptocurrency (perhaps an interesting, albeit somewhat macabre one.  Or possibly a somewhat boring one: something like a more consumer-friendly version of the world organized criminals presently live in – the world of Swiss numbered bank accounts and airborne luggage trunks full of diamonds.)
5823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about badgering www.paypalsucks.com, etc? on: October 12, 2012, 08:47:00 PM
There's a whole nest of people just waiting to hear about Bitcoin, salivating at the prospect of not having their accounts blocked.  Sounds like an untapped market to me...

http://www.paypalsucks.com/
http://www.screw-paypal.com/
http://www.aboutpaypal.org/
http://www.paypalwarning.com/
http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/PayPal
Etc, etc...

Also, BitInstant, if you're reading this... buy advertising on those sites!  Smiley
I imagine BitPay would be a better fit.
5824  Economy / Speculation / Re: True market price of bitcoins = $20? on: October 12, 2012, 07:20:46 PM
A few sales of bitcoins at a price much higher than on the exchanges does not mean the market price is "wrong".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demand_curve
5825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [BETA] Bitcoin blockchain torrent on: October 12, 2012, 03:56:38 PM
but it does look like users occasionally get partitioned off into "Azureus island" or "rtorrent island" or "everybody else's island."
I wonder why the Azureus island is so lonely right now. All I can see are two seeds and no peers.
5826  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: colored bitcoins/distributed exchanges proof-of-concept on: October 12, 2012, 03:54:32 PM
Why? What would such a bot do? I know HFT bots exist on regular stock and currency exchange markets but they are exploiting very specific issues. Debt issued on a P2P bond market still has to be issued for some kind of purpose and under some kind of identity so you can have confidence you'll get it back.
HFT bots exist on regular stock and currency exchanges because they are allowed by the exchange to cheat. Exchanges are able to get away with this because there is a high barrier to entry that keep more honest competators out of the market.
5827  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [BETA] Bitcoin blockchain torrent on: October 12, 2012, 03:18:33 PM
Won't this torrent only benefit new users if people actually seed it?

The swarm doesn't appear to be particularly large at the moment...
5828  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin, or How to Hammer in Nails with a Microscope on: October 12, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
Oh, and someone thank him for making an observation but offering no solution. Thousands of people die of starvation every day, apparently food sucks.

All my comments are directed at the quoted text, I didn't bother to click the link.
I was very confused about how you could say he offers no solution when he puts forward no less than three in the article, but then I saw that you admitted to jumping to conclusions in the absence of evidence and your post made a lot more sense.
5829  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is stealing Bitcoins illegal? on: October 12, 2012, 02:51:02 PM
I see this entire thread as missing the point.

If you don't want your bitcoins to be stolen be careful about how you store them.

If you're not sure the police will do anything to help you recover stolen bitcoins and you don't want them to be stolen be very careful about how you store them.
5830  Economy / Speculation / Re: True market price of bitcoins = $20? on: October 12, 2012, 01:37:59 AM
BitInstant fees are way too high especially if you are trying to buy thousands of dollars worth of BTC.
I understood the criteria in the post I quoted to be easy, not cheap.
5831  Economy / Speculation / Re: True market price of bitcoins = $20? on: October 12, 2012, 12:30:00 AM
For the avergae person, the current purchasing methods are just a pain the arse. Even as an "educated user", I don't buy coins because it is a pain in the arse to set up.
I don't see how it could get much easier than buying bitcoins through BitInstant.
5832  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Decentralized BTC Stock Market [Goodbye GLBSE] on: October 11, 2012, 02:19:44 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106373.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92421.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52494.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112007.0
5833  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Nobel Prize Quantum Physics - The end, is it near? on: October 10, 2012, 09:08:23 PM
Cryptography is about math, not CPU hardware. Quantum computers don't change the laws of physics and there are mathematical problems that will be never be solved by any type of computer as long as it's made of matter, occupies space, and consumes energy.

Certain types of algorithms might be made obsolete by working quantum computers but that's not the end of cryptography itself.
5834  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin framing on: October 10, 2012, 02:34:18 PM
The linguistic changes you are talking about are an effect of people and businesses being able to pay more of their expenses in bitcoins instead of local currency. Changing the way people talk about Bitcoin will not magically cause this to happen.

You're trying to push on a string. When Bitcoin becomes more widely accepted the way we talk about it will change.
5835  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: With GLBSE gone, we can start fresh on new lands. on: October 10, 2012, 12:47:25 PM
3 options to do something without as much risk as GLBSE:

1 - Setup a proper incorporated company, get all government licensing etc - this may not be popular in these parts, but it's actually perhaps the best way to avoid unwelcome regulatory attention - appease rather than fight

2 - Setup a tor hidden service - this makes things a lot more shady-looking, and also means the service can't be trusted by investors either (you could disappear without being tracked down, taking everyone's funds with you)

3 - Some kind of P2P setup - this could possibly be done using an alternate blockchain where each unit is a share, the problem is that the semantics of mining don't quite make sense - you'd have to buy "blank" shares from a mined block and that would cost money - which defeats the purpose of fundraising - there's probably a more clever way to handle this problem but it'll require a lot of thought
2 + 3, where 3 is something like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92421.0;all
5836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft registers bitcoin URI scheme on: October 10, 2012, 12:51:42 AM
Receiving nodes have no reason to forward transactions on...

Actually, there is a small incentive to forward transactions:

If you mine a block that contains a lot of transactions that have never been broadcast on the network, it will take your peers longer to verify that the signatures in the block are valid.*

So it takes your block longer to propagate through the network, which makes it slightly more likely to lose a block race.
Does this imply the existance of an optimum transaction fee which exactly balances the two incentives?
5837  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin Wallet. Taking it from one place to another. on: October 09, 2012, 11:02:31 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=81677.0
5838  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft registers bitcoin URI scheme on: October 09, 2012, 10:43:07 PM
The URIs can be dynamic, just like all other content in the web.  It can be a different address on every page load, or order, or whatever.
What BIP 32 can do is allow two entities to establish a payment channel that can have an arbitrary number of unique addresses with a single page load.

Of course that same webpage can also generate unique BIP 32 parameters on every page load.
5839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If you want to know why I hate the dev team and how they treat Bitcoin... on: October 09, 2012, 10:07:37 PM
GLBSE is dead, finished, fini, it has issued it's last stock. It was released of it's earthenly bonds. In fact, it is an ex-change.
It's pining for the fjords.
5840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Microsoft registers bitcoin URI scheme on: October 09, 2012, 09:53:17 PM
That is exactly what we are working towards at BitPay.  eventually the bitcoin address will be invisible, just like all the IP headers and other things we used to have to deal with when sending emails.
From the standpoint of privacy it would be better to have a URI that sends parameters for generating a set of BIP 32 public keys instead of a single address.
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