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5821  Other / Meta / Re: Atlas and a public plea on: September 12, 2012, 03:05:40 AM

In 87 posts and little over a day, Atlas has started 14 topics (including one poll). I believe this does not meet the condition given. This is a public plea to continue enforcing sanctions upon him until his thread creation is truly reduced.

At this rate, how soon will he have the most posts on the forum?

You mean more posts than Matthew?  Grin
5822  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I don't understand how to buy BTC.. on: September 12, 2012, 02:39:30 AM
Never had problems with BIC/IBAN bank transfers, you don't even have to verify your mtgox account if you use their Japanese one. You still have to pay a fixed fee for the transfer, still for any reasonable amount it's cheaper than bitinstant.
5823  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 12, 2012, 02:19:31 AM
WHo cares....in 9 months bitcoins will be more that $11.35

bring on the selling PussyAt40!  Cheesy

sure?
If it were that easy... the thing is it could be lower than 11.35 in 9 weeks... and that kind of thing is what drives the markets.
5824  Other / Meta / Re: Atlas and a public plea on: September 12, 2012, 01:39:12 AM
Some teenager generating Drama on the forums which apex-ed with a suicide threat last year. Has created lots of sockpuppet accounts ever since...
5825  Other / Meta / Re: Atlas and a public plea on: September 12, 2012, 01:35:11 AM
Let the guy wear himself out a little, he'll get tired after a week or so.

Yeah, right, you don't know Atlas then...

Just from observing on the sidelines.
The admins have given him a second chance and you should too. There is still that much shitposting in this forum that it barely matters. Plus you can put him on ignore this way... he'll post anyway with a new account every 3 days otherwise like last months.
5826  Other / Meta / Re: Atlas and a public plea on: September 12, 2012, 01:27:17 AM
Let the guy wear himself out a little, he'll get tired after a week or so.
5827  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 12, 2012, 01:08:36 AM
inb4 the wall reappearing at 10.6
5828  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 12, 2012, 12:17:23 AM
I suspect at some point the person will get impatient and will end up buying.

Again that would be new, in the past the wall maker pulled it.
5829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Let the rally begin! on: September 12, 2012, 12:14:16 AM
Watch that person with the big cock wall get impatient....lol  Cheesy

In retrospect did you ever see that happening? There's a first time for everything but from past occurrences of gargantuan walls they were moved around and eventually pulled.
5830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 12, 2012, 12:08:40 AM
Since it doesn't look that this wall gonna be sold into how long do you think it will last? When will it get pulled?
A day? A week?

This is driving me nuts, why isn't this showing up on the bitcoincharts order book.

It shows up in the http api too, is there a quick way to check the websockets api? If bitcoincharts doesn't show it because of a bug that would be hell of a coincidence. They are refreshing the prices for sure.

I just realized, bitcoincharts.com order book locked up before that giant wall was placed. Look a best BID and ASK prices, something like 11.09$/BTC and 11.19$/BTC! Thats why its not showing.

Yes I've seen that, this is very suspicious timing.
5831  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 11, 2012, 11:50:15 PM
This is driving me nuts, why isn't this showing up on the bitcoincharts order book.

It shows up in the http api too, is there a quick way to check the websockets api? If bitcoincharts doesn't show it because of a bug that would be hell of a coincidence. They are refreshing the prices for sure.
5832  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 11, 2012, 10:24:27 PM
holy shit here comes the rally of a life time

I look forward to a good hardy facepalm when this is all sorted out.

lol ya... i can't jump in on this... the market appears to feel the same way..

what kind of retard places an order like this anyway?

the same retard who'll likely get impatient and hit the market order buy button.

Even if this guy is completely without skills, for that amount he could hire a highly skilled team to write him the stealthiest bot to snatch cheap coins ever and still be in the plus.


I can't rationally explain it, except maybe it's a move to stir up the markets in a big way.
5833  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 11, 2012, 10:11:57 PM
Can anybody explain why it doesn't show up here?
They should have refreshed by now.
5834  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 11, 2012, 10:07:24 PM
Well it's in the mtgox api...

https://mtgox.com/code/data/getDepth.php
Code:
[10.7,157969.13822753]
5835  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: September 11, 2012, 09:51:18 PM
Could have been somebody flashing the sellers though.

Just look at the bitcoincharts orderbook, seems way more reliable. Looks very balanced right now..

5836  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If I was a newbie.... on: September 11, 2012, 09:44:38 PM
Scams are best prevented by systematic security, anything else is just icing on the cake.
This, altho i do think that we need to apply the icing generously nevertheless...


Yeah it's always good to make it as tasty as possible Smiley
5837  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If I was a newbie.... on: September 11, 2012, 09:29:50 PM
Scams are best prevented by systematic security, anything else is just icing on the cake.

As long as there are bitcoin "banks" where lots of people store their coins where other people have access to them thefts will happen. There is no "free market" mechanism which can prevent that, everybody is prone to immoral behavior it's just a matter of chance.

What we now need is an exchange where people can use the multisig transaction mechanisms to trade bitcoin for fiat money. That may not be straight forward to do convenient, that's why we have to think how to make bitcoin better not try to debate the issue away.
5838  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If I was a newbie.... on: September 11, 2012, 07:24:53 PM
Multisig-based escrow already allows for reversible transactions. There's no UI for it yet, but the infrastructure exists and requires no or minimal trust. Once popular clients have this ability in their UIs, it will become more popular for all sorts of transactions. When transaction versioning is re-enabled, escrow transactions will be even safer

thanks
5839  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If I was a newbie.... on: September 11, 2012, 06:38:49 PM
You think that's bad?

The bad thing is: Once you come forward and suggest implementing a solution, (the third-party signed transactions for example) someone comes along screaming:
"Reversible transactions!!111 Do not want! BTC is no credit card!!"

People need to get the head out of their asses and look at theses issues from a systematic perspective instead of sticking to some fundamentalistic agenda.  Roll Eyes
I don't understand how third-party signed transactions protect people from scams.

Certain kinds, for example the kind of exchange "hacking" we've seen on a regular basis couldn't been pulled off if an exchange wouldn't have direct access to the funds.

I'm not saying that this is the silver bullet, and you are right people need to act responsibly. But it's not the only thing that has to be done either.
How I see it people run around spreading the word that bitcoin it "perfect", part out of greed to give it more userbase part out of fear that innovation could harm their speculative investment if it goes wrong. I am not saying we should hard-fork the existing mechanisms but provide improvements where it is necessary. In this example the possibility to do third-party signed transaction wouldn't hurt anybody, everybody who doesn't like the feature or has no use for it can use regular transactions all they want.

Again: The main thing hindering innovation is this irrational fear that any improvement might backfire and make the investment worthless. This has no basis in reality, nobody will think of bitcoin to be worth less because of some added feature... to the contrary it will probably boost it.


You want reversible transactions via the protocol?  Roll Eyes

What's wrong with being a Bitcoin supporter because of the current properties of Bitcoin? This is why I'm here. I don't want protection. I want strong money. Bitcoin is strong money. I'd guess that's why Bitcoin has grown as fast as it has. People value it's properties.

The protocol doesn't need changed. If you are so certain you know how to run things, build a layer on top of Bitcoin and make bank catering to all of the people who want protection.
See this is exactly the kind of fear I am talking about.
Again adding to it, you could still do regular transactions all you want. Don't like to get paid by someone else using it? Just don't accept it. (You can tell)
5840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If I was a newbie.... on: September 11, 2012, 05:20:06 PM
You think that's bad?

The bad thing is: Once you come forward and suggest implementing a solution, (the third-party signed transactions for example) someone comes along screaming:
"Reversible transactions!!111 Do not want! BTC is no credit card!!"

People need to get the head out of their asses and look at theses issues from a systematic perspective instead of sticking to some fundamentalistic agenda.  Roll Eyes
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