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5821  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: December 28, 2016, 12:23:22 PM
The risk is really high if you are going to make gambling as a profitable activity and I was thinking about only one thing that you are able to make gambling as profitable thing without any investment involved.
You mean to say only if we are able to gamble without any investment then only we will get chances to be in profitable in gambling activities?

I agree with this point as I am a gambler, always looking for free giveaways and fauctes to make use of them for my gambling. Many times I may not have enough time to make them to grow till payout threshold. But, entertainment is completely guaranteed for free of cost.

That's one of the point because you are not even risking your own money and every time you are going to gamble those free money and giveaways that you'll get is going to be your major investment together with your time. But of course there are some gamblers that are totally making gambling as a real job since they afford to invest and to lose any amount.
Still you will not be able to make a decent amount of money even without risk, for me I consider it as waste of time especially doing faucet. For kids, maybe it's profitable to them but when you are expecting a bigger return, the only way to make it is to let your money make money as that is the nature of gambling, of course you all need to take the risk.
Fortunately the big profit also big risks, I think we should dare to take risks. If we are afraid of the risk, of course there will be no major changes in our life. All success peoples always take high risk, we must follow they.
Taking risk is necessary if you want to have a successful life, however doing it in gambling is not a good idea as when calculating the risk it's big and the advantage to win the game does not favor us. We can invest on the other hand but only up to the amount we can lose, gambling sites are profitable but always consider they can scam investors when they feel they are not doing good anymore.
5822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: There is no life in Gambling can you accept this....?? on: December 28, 2016, 11:51:16 AM
HI every one i loss everything in this gambling. Now i am empty hand and now i am realize there is no life in Gambling. Like this any body thinking please share here.

There is as long as you know how to control. Set your priorities and bet only what you afford to lose. Dont rush things .

Right. We really need to think before entering in any decisions. It will really help so that there is no regret in the end. Keep your plan .set your limit values if you win that much stop when you lose that much stop too.make your game fun.
It's a consequence which must be accepted if they have decided to gamble like when you have to decide on something that you do not like it when you get trouble, you should be able to accept it.
Of course, you have to accept whatever the outcome of your gambling session, it's wise to plan ahead of your gambling session so you can decide what to do when to stop when winning or losing, as long as you will stay focus and discipline you will be able to enjoy gambling.

It's always fun to play if you know that gambling is not your life and will never have a big part of your life.
5823  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: December 28, 2016, 11:40:36 AM

The best way is save your money in bitcoin to prevent decreasing value of fiat. Do not worry becouse so many countries in the world were accept bitcoin now. Bitcoin, gold and real estate is good but fiat is worst.

Exactly. It is best to invest into Bitcoin, as it proves to become a good store of value as price increases over time. You can see Bitcoin more of like digital gold, where it gets expensive over time the scarcer it gets. While fiat tends to decrease in value, since governments inflate their currencies, you can rest assured that your investment would be kept safe by relying on Bitcoin, and Gold.

Nevertheless, it is best to invest and save money, to have control of your financial life for years to come. The more you invest into Bitcoin, and the more you save or hold it, the more money you will make. Just my opinion.  Grin
That's how we think because we have too much believe in bitcoin that will be very popular in the future, it's good since it will appreciate its value but anything can happen including the bad side of bitcoin, with lack of government support the risk of becoming to be a threat is very big, we must also keep that into consideration.
5824  Economy / Economics / Re: The Halving - Good or Bad for Bitcoin? on: December 28, 2016, 06:34:50 AM
maybe the good of halving is the price will be sky rocket in the next time but the bad of halving is the amount of bitcoin that miners can mining is reduce but all in all, its still profitable to make a good amount of bitcoin in mining but its need many factor like big hashrate, low fee electricity. and for the new year, we can see the new price too.
With the current price it will not affect them negatively, therefore for them to be profitable they need to see this kind of price always. It's definitely a win win situation for all of us here, as a mining business will also be profitable. This people for sure are also holding their mine bitcoins and they will be more profitable the longer they hold.
5825  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: December 28, 2016, 06:16:36 AM
Who is gonna do that? "Never" selling bitcoin. That is not a practical way in using bitcoin. Yes, We know that bitcoins are good for long term especially on its price because year after year the price is commonly moving up but we don't need to hold our bitcoin until we death because we can't enjoy its benefits, IMO holding bitcoin at least 5 years is enough for you to enjoy your profits from your investment because i think that would be enough for the price of bitcoin to be double or even triple.

yep and i think many people will hold their bitcoin until they see the good price for them so they can sell their bitcoin and make profit. many people is waiting for another increase of bitcoin price in new year and they really need to be patience to see the new price of bitcoin. beside that, if we have to sell our bitcoin, then don't forget to enjoy your money to buy something you want so you can make another benefit with bitcoin too.
Holding is the best option for now as the price has increase, however as an investor for long term, it is also necessary for you to ensure that you have a specific plan in the future so when the amount you are waiting to see will happen you can sell eventually. It's not good to just hold as timing is what is necessary when investing, we cannot expect the progress will continue to happen but at least we take advantage when it arrives to us.
5826  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: December 28, 2016, 05:53:49 AM
For now, my best investment strategy is only earn and hold bitcoin as many as I can.  Becpuse so many prediction said that bitcoin price will rise over 100% in 2017 becouse bitcoin will get so many adoption by countries in the world. More than 30 countries in the world were accept bitcoin. I think the more country will accept bitcoin soon. Although trading is the best way but I still need to learn the skill.
Simple but best though, if you have been holding for at least one year for 2016 then you can easily double your money with the way the price has been very progressive, this will surely continue to happen and it's beyond my imagination how much the price would reach i we can wait for another 20 years with our investment. Expert says, 1BTC could world a million dollar and I believe on that to happen in the future.
that's right mate bitcoin investment seems to be the easiest way to earn money if you just hold and wait for the price to keep hyping up, its been huge now almost reaching 1k $ so for sure it will be notice by those who's not in yet and the more investors to join in the more the value will be rises up so just keep believing and i'm very sure that things will happen possibly for all us here.
With the continuous price increase, we can attract more people to adopt as they are excited to invest and ride with the current pump, I hope they will mature and be able to have more patience as the increase does not happen all the time, there are times also that the economy experience crisis and I can say that the strongest will only survive.
5827  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1x฿it.com - Most Competitive Sports฿ook & Casino | ฿est Odds & Wagering Options on: December 28, 2016, 05:28:51 AM
I quite agree with you when you said 1xbit is a great site to play with and I love how they program their set of games. Plus their site is mobile friendly.
I have never tried it in my mobile as I usually do gamble most of the time in my PC, it's a bit laggy but acceptable. I like the live odds of this site as it's very competitive with the odds of the more popular sites, I am already hooked to this site that I forgot to play to my other sports book.
5828  Economy / Economics / Re: Tell me your predictions about Bitcoin on: December 27, 2016, 01:15:05 PM
I think in the next 5 years the price of bitcoins will rise more than 2500 dollars and there will be more popularity of bitcoins in the whole world .and there will be one such country who will totally run on bitcoins.
That is very good prediction I hope my country will be the one who will use the bitcoin as a money hahaha. But I think that country will be the Japan because the Japan is the superior in terms of technology! So in the next 5 years if you holding a coin It will became triple I hope so, so it's better to invest now Smiley

And I don't know if Satoshi's Nakamoto name will help for that name is a Japanese but we don't know if that is just an alias.

But I guess 5 years is not even enough to make a country to fully adopt bitcoins and allow their state to use bitcoins for all of their transactions.

Fiat system is still needed even though that there is already bitcoin system that can help with every transactions that we made.

Still there are countries that will make it as a good way of investing and promoting their country because of it.
Full adoption I guess is hard to realize, the fact that major number of people has not idea about bitcoin they will surely not gonna think of learning it. A person will only adopt if he thinks he can benefit from using bitcoin and the people who are still under poverty, composes of a house population and they will never gonna understand bitcoin.

Yes it is hard to assume that there is going to be a full adoption as the total world's population is too big enough.

And compare to the total supply limit of bitcoin which is only 21 million which is going to make it's value even higher if there is going to be a full adoption.

Those people under the poverty level will not even understand what bitcoin really is.
It's everyone's dream to see a people fully adopted with bitcoin, with that possibilities to take place in the future, it is just wise enough to prepare for the future and we are also building our dreams the moment the price will pump more than what we expected. The current price is only $900+ but with full adoption we can go more than $10,000 per BTC.
5829  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: December 27, 2016, 12:44:25 PM
I would invest by buying 5 bitcoins from zebpay .and sell them within 3 months .and the profit i would  get by selling bitcoins and then by investing them into another .this is my investment strategy for bitcoins.
I think it is not good to set a time to sell your bitcoins .it is better to analyze if you already get the good profit from the price increases you can sell it just right now if you bought bitcoin for 700 value you can sell it right now because the price was touch in 900 value and you make already a profit but if you set it for 3 months and the price is reducing you missed the opportunity to get the profit..

If the bitcoin has more potential to rise, it is better to hold.

Bitcoin is good to use for long-term investment. It seems to me that even buying it now possible on this very well make money in a few years
It's a very risky investment but definitely a good investment for all of us believers, it is always in our mind that the price will be bigger in the future and the longer we hold our bitcoins the more value we get. Being optimistic will always help us since in times of crisis we will not easily panic and sell out.
5830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: December 27, 2016, 12:30:02 PM
You can be done, but you must be patient, if you are not patient, you already lose what you earned.
Okay so I am very patient and I can wait hours for winning so tell me how can I win ?

Man if if you make 10 bets a second or make 1 bet a second its the same thing, being patient simply means that you would bet less and hence loose less and this sometimes makes a illusion like we are winning.

Believe me it is impossible to win in long term and that's why the casinos are getting richer, no ?

I agree, having an interval when betting doesn't help you to have a higher chance of winning in gambling. No one constanty wins from gambling. If we already win too much then we will start to lose. If we get greedy then we will just definitely lose what we already win which benefits the casino owners.
Maybe it will only help you to minimize your loses because the way to win in gambling is when you can predict more winning bets than your losing bet. Also, you must be very discipline with bankroll management so your winning percentage will reflect on your balance. Remember that's there's always tomorrow and whatever wrong decision you make should be corrected the next time you gamble.
5831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: December 27, 2016, 12:23:02 PM
Gambling is addictive because gambling players have different reasons why they are addicted on it. Some are always gaining profit on it thats why they are keep playing gambling games for more even profit. Some are always loosing they are chasing their lost fund on playing gambling. Some are just attracted on playing gambling they just enjoy playing it.
gambling addiction is not terrible, but the effect was very terrible for us all, the impact could be to the gambler even to the people around him.

People around them do not really get affected in any way, unless they are also convinced to join gambling. The worst part of the addiction is that you're losing most of the time more than you wanted to, and this happens to like everybody having this addiction. It's hard to get rid of it.
yeah actually people will always crossed the limit once they are gambling, hard to control over it. as the thrill in gambling makes you have no time to think twice, just do it no matter what as long as you feel happy and satisfied , gambling always be like that. addiction come from that excitement.
Yes true if we too enjoy gambling will feel happy so it does not have control and become addicted. I when gamble sometimes still do it. Because it is very difficult to really be able to control themselves. But a gambler must have self-control and good financial management, so as not to become addicted to gambling. It will make can avoid big losses.
The only thing that will happen to you when you lack self control in gambling is you will become bankrupt in the end, it does not matter how much your capital is since the outcome will still be the same, it is a very dangerous game and when it has danger it is very important to be very careful as we do not only live today, we do have our future to take care especially for our family.
5832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: December 26, 2016, 07:16:27 AM
It is right, all gambling sites are trust-able than investment sites. But i am not agree with you, that investment is risky more than gambling. You know, gambling is one and only risky way, no other one can comparative with it, and investment is really easy way. If you get a good or trust-able site than definitely you could make good profit. Otherwise, you could hold your bitcoins and make profit from them, no need to invest your bitcoins in any sites.
yes it is a fact that gambling is more risky as compare to trading, but i am not agree with you that all gambling sites can be trusted, i think there are a lot of people who are scam by gambling site, you must be more careful if you want to invest you money in online gambling casino, because they can easily scam you .
Choosing which one better between trading and gambling is depend on your taste .
I mean if you want to take a big risk then gambling is better as it is give you bigger potential winning too.
But if you want a safe place to make money then trading  is your choice. Pretty simple.
You are definitely correct, trading can give us a better chance to be profitable than in gambling, we have to instill patience in ourselves if we are in trading and that is very important for success. Some of us are gambling because we cannot wait too long to grow our money, hence we take bigger risk for a possible bigger payout as well, but we have proven it does not give us success.
5833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: December 26, 2016, 07:09:41 AM
for me gambling for bitcoin is the easiest way to make money if I have some knowledge and enough luck. that's always needed before you played. I'm playing gambling also for my entertainment purposes too. but overall I'm playing gamblingbecause I'm gonna needed my income from gambling to provide me another money because we have a little fastfood chain and I'm investing all my income from gambling on our business so my money would grow.
You should not think with that way, gambling is not a fast way to make money , it is the contrary of it.
If you think to gamble for having and doubling money in fast way , i just can say you will guaranteed to never make it.
Gambling is something deadly addictive if you cannot treat properly.
But the definition and understanding of gambling is always just a contradiction to its real nature.
As long as gambling will be lure people to make the future then we will be having those type of rumours that will be attracting innocent people to enter in the and to spoil their futures.
The point is gambling always makes someone have a bad habit in most case.
Only few people can really treat gambling properly such as to gamble occasionally not continuously.
The rest of it treat gambling in wrong way, it is just misleading everyone.


exactly and many people have proof this and they become addicting in gambling games. because gambling is a games with luck factor inside, we can not always win the games with easy, sometimes we need to get loss in more than 5 times and after that we can win the big money with next games. but its not always work for us and its depend on our luck in the games.
yeaaa something insinde your head always telling you that the next one will sure be yours to win.
this mindset is really the factor makes everyone ended up losing and broke.
gambling is a deadly hobby that can make anyone forgot everything / anything around you.
Because we are too positive and we do not consider the losing side of gambling as all we think is just to win and win. It is actually good if only our chances is equal with the house but the sad reality is not, the house as always the edge, so no matter how hard we try, we still end up having a big lose in the end.
5834  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: December 26, 2016, 05:01:10 AM
For now trading is unpredictable job when you don't know what to do and what coin will you buy , i suggest that joined in some of groups that they are talking lots of altcoin to buy and to sell most of them are focused on trading to know what coin they buying we cannot predict if we are only one who predicting it much good when we build teamwork.
i do not think that trading is unpredictable job, i think there are so many people who are really expert in trading and having good experience of trading and most of the time their prediction proves correct.
It is, you are referring to some people who can predict the right price movement of an asset they are trading but in general, most of us are not doing well in trading and our journey is not as easy as them. Therefore you can always call it as an unpredictable job as we can never ensure we can consistently make profit.
5835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there a trick dice? on: December 26, 2016, 04:43:20 AM
I have a lot of tricks bitsler. and just last night I get a new trick? here and give it a try has been getting a lot of doge. Do you believe the trick? and until when these tricks can be used https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bMVOKFTPM
Do you believe the trick ? Not at all since its based on luck and I do not TRUST luck.
Till when I would win ? Till the moment your luck is with you, once you get unlucky all is lost.

Personal opinion to you is that never trust such strategy, use them but do not trust them because trusting means you will gamble more than what you can afford to loose.
You are absolutely right because in past I use few strategies and have some big loses now feel these are nothing just waste of time you have good luck you are going good and if you have not good day then you are losing with all these shit strategies never believe them best tip play if you can afford to lose good day
Experience just prove to us that is never profitable to play dice in the long run, the house edge will always be there in every spin, so that makes us lose as our luck that we expected cannot help us all the time. Therefore, no trick would make you win in dice but there's a trick to enjoy and minimize your loses.
5836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: December 26, 2016, 03:29:24 AM
Yes I can control myself when it comes to gambling and I never chase after losses like a lot of gamblers do and this only get's them more in trouble most of the time.I set myself a limit each week and stick to it, yes sometimes it can be hard but you just need to be discipline and control your emotions and not get caught up in it all. So set yourself a limit and stick to it, never chase a loss. 
we are same i can control myself , sometimes i can control it , i always chase my losses until i ended up being profit , i always gamble when i have btc on my wallet , i have also have a limit when im losing alot then i stop betting and bet tomorrow until i regain my loss
It is good to know that there are still many people with ability to control their behavior while gambling. Gambling without controlling yourself can lead into many bad results such as losing all money, being in debt, becoming angry. Normally, I gamble just for fun and it is kinda easier to govern my body and my temper.
to me i think most of the people are pretending to be, as it is one of the most difficult job to control your emotion while playing gambling, i think there will be limited number of people who may have control over their emotions while playing gambling.
I experience that before when i was new in gambling. if you do not have control by your self and let your emotion to decide what you will do  you can just lose your funds also greediness is one of the reason why more people are losing because they are not satisfied what they had.. instead they are already made a good profit it turns into lose in the end..
But the thing is, we have to learn from our experience, we have seen and experience the bad effect of being greedy so we have to change our perception with gambling. Never think that it's always easy money here as it is not, in fact the number of losers in gambling are accumulating and gambling sites are getting more successful in terms of financial aspect aspect.
5837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: December 26, 2016, 03:06:56 AM
I play gamble because i want some profit for my everyday life. Many gamblers play gambling games for the profit they are earning. Sometimes playing gambling makes me have fun and earning profit too.

If your gambling every day to earn money then most likely you will lose all your hard earned money in gambling instead of making money. In gambling, only luck can bring us money and that luck comes only sometimes not every day so don't waste your money to earn easy money in gambling instead invest some other places to give you profits over the time.
You can gamble everyday if you are good in managing your finances and if you understand that you must only put what you can afford to lose. What is see is there are two possible purpose of a person why he is gambling everyday, one is a gambler is making money for a living while the other one is gambling to chase its loses.
5838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: December 24, 2016, 06:47:03 AM
I've read here a lot about "Gambling doesn't make you rich" So I thought about it, and it does make sense. So what do you feel about gambling then? Just entertainment? I think that's not everybody's mindset.

In the back of my mind, I want to be rich but not because of gambling. But when I gamble, I still always want to win. So when you always win, you become more rich and more risk will be involved. Anyway, if I would earn a winning bet that would have a lot of profit from, I would withdraw the initial bet or the bitcoins I deposited to get it back, then still gamble.

If you would have a winning bet that would give you a lot of profit, what would you do with it?

I would definitely not use the winnings to gamble more because I know I would lose all in the long run. So I think if I win big I would withdraw all my winnings except for a very small part which I would leave in my balance to tip some good people in the chat and to gamble a bit, to try my luck once again.
Easier said than done made, I bet you, you will still use your winnings into gambling. That's how a gamblers think, we only stop and quit totally when we feel we have already achieve that amount we are hoping to achieve, and that amount should be big enough to compensate ourselves of the effort we are doing, as long as we are still not satisfied, we will still play and most likely we will lose again.
5839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is there a trick dice? on: December 24, 2016, 06:43:18 AM
a dice game that depends on luck there may not be a trick that can make you win, based on my own experience i'm mostly use 49.95% or 50/50 to win or lose it only took a little bit time and you can win the bet 100% of the value of your bet.
You can't argue with the reality, whatever we do we cannot take out the house edge as even how small it it for some gambling sites, we are still gonna lose in the long run. I have no idea why people are still thinking of a trick in a game where we cannot win in the long run. We must be wasting our time and effort for doing things that would never give us good results.
5840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: December 24, 2016, 06:30:31 AM
For anyone wants to spend sometime for fun without to realize how the time passed gambling is ok. Especially gambling with cards and not only casino games. After that people must be careful because addiction in gambling happens very often and is difficult to face with.

Yeah, it is really addicting and hard to face with. Though there are people that really has experiences and can stop themselves. I am really amazed with that gamblers, well it is good to have that experience. And from what i had told there are gamblers that started with gambling for fun, but ended up being caught up with it and still ruin themselves in gambling. Gotta keep controlling.
To stop gambling we need willpower and self-control those who have control on their play they will stop easily. And yes many people will start gambling just for fun, and finally, they end with very bad experience. So this gambling will not help people it will spoil people life.
Quitting in gambling means it does not really help your life because you are into the last of option you can do, people quit because they are losing money that they cannot afford to lose and it's slowly destroying their lives and they quit because they don't want their life to be ruin in the future.

For me, I can enjoy gambling and it will not ruin my life because I am responsible and I know what I am doing with gambling.
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