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5841  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Ethereum on: May 11, 2020, 08:39:06 AM
Update ETH baru-baru ini menurut saya kurang begitu memberi efek terhadap pasar, karena mungkin masih hanya sebatas testnet.
Setuju Om. Kalau dari segi harga, memang tidak ada perbedaan dengan sebelum-sebelumnya. Naik turun harga ETH hingga saat ini masih mengikuti pola grafik harga BTC. Bisa diamati dari history grafik harga ETH di CMC, polanya masih identik dengan trend harga BTC.

Tapi kalau dari segi jumlah user wallet ETH, dengan adanya berita akan rilisnya ETH 2.0, jumlahnya mengalami lonjakan cukup besar. Yang paling signifikan adalah pada bulan Januari, yaitu mencapai 500.000 (naik dua kali lipat). Paling tidak ini menunjukkan antusias orang-orang untuk menyambut Ethereum 2.0. Jadi ada potensi bullish juga seperti harga BTC beberapa hari yang lalu. IMO

lagi nunggu momen buat beli mendekati akhir Q2 setelah halving Bitcoin karena siapa tahu kena imbasnya lagi si ETH.
Sekarang saja sudah kena imbasnya. Mungkin bisa jadi gak perlu nunggu sampai mendekati akhir Q2. DWYOR

Berita ETH:
- https://www.analisaforex.com/penskalaan-ethereum-dan-lonjakan-pengguna-aktif-menjelang-eth-2-0/
5842  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [EDUKASI DAN DISKUSI] Bitcoin, Standar Mata Uang dan Legalitas Di Indonesia on: May 11, 2020, 02:18:40 AM
mengapa Bitcoin itu dilarang di Indonesia sebagai mata uang
Yang saya pahami, bukan hanya Bitcoin yang dilarang sebagai mata uang (alat pembayaran) tetapi hal atau unsur lain juga dilarang. Karena memang hanya Rupiah yang sah untuk menjadi satu-satunya mata uang di Indonesia. Rujukannya adalah UU Nomer 7 Tahun 2011, tentang mata uang. Di situ jelas disebutkan bahwa satu-satunya alat pembayaran yang sah adalah Rupiah (Mata Uang NKRI).

Didalam suatu website yang saya dapati saya menemukan bahwa ada 4 standar mata uang
IMO, 4 standar tersebut mengacu kepada sesuatu yang real. Saya kira tidak bisa menjadikan itu sebagai indikator untuk mengukur kelayakan Bitcoin sebagai mata uang, karena Bitcoin bukan benda real (digital cash/electronic cash). Ibaratnya agan ingin menyaring pasir, agan tidak akan bisa menggunakan saringan teh. 4 standar itu tidak "applicable" untuk Bitcoin, jadi agan tidak bisa menyatakan Bitcoin lolos tahap 1 dengan menggunakan itu.

Bacaan:
- https://www.jogloabang.com/pustaka/uu-7-2011-mata-uang
- http://traderulebook.ekon.go.id/assets/indonesia/4645_UU_7_2011_i.html



Apakah sebelum membuat thread di atas agan sudah membaca beberapa thread berikut?

1. Perlukah Bitcoin Dilegalkan Sebagai Alat Tukar?
2. Dilema undang undang pelarangan bitcoin sebagai alat pembayaran

Saya kira topik ini masih berkaitan dengan 2 thread tersebut.
5843  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Halving Party - Discord server on: May 11, 2020, 12:35:16 AM
I'm still not familiar with discord but it seems okay for me to try. But I'm a bit curious why we should choose discord for a chatroom? Not something more familiar like a telegram group?

Ideas for events, contests and whatnot are appreciated!
As you said "halving party", I assume we will have a fun activity or program related to halving. I hope it will be an event, contest, competition that can be joined by all members (beginner - experienced members). I've still no idea about what kind of activity or program, but I hope it can meet these criteria:
- easy/simple
- entertain/fun
- educated (about halving)

>I think the best option: contest or competition.
5844  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Proyek Covid-19: Bantuan Keuangan - Hanya Untuk Pengguna Bitcointalk! on: May 10, 2020, 05:20:37 AM
Setuju dengan Om ETFbitcoin.
Donasi amal pada thread ini ditujukan untuk seluruh member bitcointalk, berarti termasuk juga member Indo jika ada yang layak untuk dibantu. Sedangkan donasi amal yang dibuat oleh irfan_pak10, dikhususkan hanya untuk orang-orang dari negaranya (target di luar forum).

Saya kira Om dbshck & sapta tidak akan mengunci thread ini, karena thread ini memang menyangkut hal yang berkaitan dengan user Bitcointalk sendiri.
5845  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: May 09, 2020, 11:57:34 PM
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So, do you think gambling is the same as day trading because both are easy to do and have goals to earn money? Playing gambling like dice or roulette is indeed so easy, but I doubt if day trading is as easy as the games. It needs skills, not only about monitoring up and down the rates/prices. However, easy or not sometimes will be quite subjective. Some people may think day trading is easy but others not.
5846  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Things you shouldn't do when gambling at casino this time... on: May 09, 2020, 11:40:15 PM
Firstly most of the casino are closed everywhere and even if there are few opened we should avoid going there.
Yep, too risky playing gambling on physical casinos during the pandemic. I'm pretty sure the government should appeal to us to prefer staying at home than go anywhere, including gambling at casinos. If there are still many people on the physical casinos, then they are at risk affected by Coronavirus. Anyway, I'm not sure if there are few casinos still opened if they are already some people affected by virus in that area.
5847  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | Sr Member+ | Up to 0.0375 BTC/w on: May 09, 2020, 10:38:14 PM
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Agree. No need to try getting the answer if they decide to silence. Respect them! We know it should be about the rules, DarkStar_ decision, and their privacy. Anyway, we cannot always link between their quality and why they are removed. It is a different case. Their contribution to the forum is undoubted, they are really top members. But why they are removed? There should be a reason related to the campaign itself.   
5848  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and health 🤕symptoms on: May 08, 2020, 09:06:43 PM
No, it is his gambling style that makes him addicted, blaming gambling generally is just like not accepting your mistakes, blame yourself first.
Definitely. Addiction isn't about gambling games but how you play those games. Someone who blames gambling seems unaware that addiction doesn't happen to all gamblers. So the question, why there is an addicted gambler? Surely there is something wrong with the gambler. And the thing that makes the most sense is about the gambling style implemented by the gambler.
5849  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: $40 free - first person to comment. on: May 08, 2020, 08:31:14 PM
Why you revoke your post message? since your the first one who comment in this thread section.
Did you receive 40$ about what the author said?

I guess you directly commented without reading all the replies above.
Of course, he revoked his comment because OP isn't a scammer and he really kept his promise.

Please read these replies:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246591.msg54381255#msg54381255
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246591.msg54381287#msg54381287
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246591.msg54381303#msg54381303
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246591.msg54381444#msg54381444

minairia3 has confirmed that OP has sent 40$ (in BTC) to the address requested by him.
FYI, minairia3 decided to donate the prize for charity: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246208.0
5850  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Meme-worthy slots winning reactions (with poll) on: May 08, 2020, 07:24:08 PM
Voted #2 heyitsjoe.
It seems different among others. I like how he laid down on the floor to express his excitement. For me, it is a good way to make you feel calmer.  Cheesy
FYI, at first, I wanted to choose #1 ClassyBeef, but no longer interested because then I think it's like seeing people get angry. lol  Grin
5851  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price could reach $ 100,000 by 2025 on: May 08, 2020, 06:55:47 PM
Whose prediction is that? You or an expert?
AFAIK, no guarantee for the price improvement on Bitcoin. Everyone can predict or guess it, but the result is always unpredictable.
You must know that even if it will take 5 years, it doesn't mean Bitcoin must have improved its value significantly. In my view, the time duration is not always correlated with price development. You must consider various factors to speculate on how the price will be after 5 years.
- Supply & demand
- BTC adoption
- Crypto & BTC regulation
- Media influence
- Bitcoin community
- Etc

Read:
1. https://medium.com/swlh/top-5-factors-influencing-bitcoin-price-441cd9479bba
2. https://www.finance-monthly.com/2019/07/what-are-the-key-factors-influencing-the-price-of-bitcoin/

>However, a prediction is always a speculative thing. No guarantee at all whether true or wrong!!
5852  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin popped $10 000 on: May 07, 2020, 11:56:21 PM
It isn't surprising as the halving time is only a few days left. We can see that investors are very enthusiastic to buy Bitcoin. As a high demand in the market, the price can continue to rise up. Except if most investors are starting to secure the profits and satisfied with the current price, then probably the price decrease gradually.  
5853  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Q&A][TIPS] Seputar Bounty/Airdrop Di Sini on: May 07, 2020, 11:26:18 PM
~ snip ~
Coba mas Ulum baca kembali pertanyaan dari @Princeofpoetry di atas? Yang ditanyakan adalah BM "favorit" bukan? Nah 5 BM yang saya list tersebut merupakan BM favorit saya. So, tentu itu atas penilaian saya sendiri, dengan kriteria saya sendiri. Kecuali jika itu untuk list BM berdasarkan reputasi di forum ini, maka tentu ada banyak nama yang jauh lebih berpengalaman.  Wink

Kurang pengalaman dan proyek masih sebatas proyek biasa itu wajar, mas. Toh jenengan baru memulai karir menjadi BM. Perlu waktu untuk dipercaya handle proyek besar. Yang penting jenegan punya idealisme dan komitmen bagus dalam memilih proyek bounty. Dan itu yang saya lihat pada diri jenengan. FYI, saya lihat sudah ada yang mengapresiasi kinerja jenengan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228629.0.

Iya mas, saya tau bahwa banyak BM Indonesia yang sudah jauh lebih dulu berkarir sebelum jenengan, seperti Julerz12, Arteezy, dsbb. Bahkan saya sempat join di salah satu BM tersebut. Tapi masalah penilaian kembali ke kriteria dan standar masing2.

Anyway, slow aja mas, don't think too much. Tidak ada statement saya yang mengatakan jenengan sudah sejajar dengan sapta, DarkStar, yahoo62278, atau Hhampuz (tapi potensi pasti ada). Tidak akan menjadi "misleading" bagi para Newbie, sekalipun "misleading" juga ke BM yang benar.   Cheesy
5854  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does good side of gambling overcomes its negative side? on: May 07, 2020, 10:55:42 PM
3. It will let you interact with other people which is good for socializing.
I think this is only applied for physical gambling, not for online gambling.
Anyway, I don't think interaction during playing gambling with others will be very useful for socializing purposes. You won't talk freely or speaking much while playing, which probably impairs concentration.   

5. It can be a source of income.
NO, mate. I don't think you can rely on gambling to get income. Instead, you mostly lose money on gambling as the chance to win is quite small. It is more reasonable if you expect for the entertainment of fun by playing gambling. However, it depends on the gambler's own perception, whether he views gambling is a money source or a fun place.
5855  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and health 🤕symptoms on: May 07, 2020, 10:25:32 PM
Gambling actually ain't the problem here. Gambling is just a game where people get used to it. The real problem is the attitude of a person who is playing.
It is true. We cannot blame gambling games once we get addicted, there is no problem with those games. The problem is in ourselves, how we play & how we manage time + funds for gambling. The point is on those things, so if we can play normally, means know to limit time & funds during playing the games (no playing excessively), then everything will be okay. In addition, control your emotions and expectation, realize that don't hope too much to be rich by gambling.  
5856  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Q&A][TIPS] Seputar Bounty/Airdrop Di Sini on: May 07, 2020, 01:31:26 AM
Btw BM di tele itu tulisan adalah "pemilik" ya gan?
Ini di tele apa dulu gan? Tele official atau bounty?
Belum tentu "owner" berarti BM nya. Kadang bisa jadi itu salah satu tim proyeknya, jika menggunakan BM eksternal.
Lebih baik ditanyakan saja di tele bounty nya terkait siapa BM nya. Pasti salah satu admin di sana akan mengarahkan ke BM nya.
Atau bisa jadi BM nya langsung yang menjawab.
5857  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Q&A][TIPS] Seputar Bounty/Airdrop Di Sini on: May 07, 2020, 12:06:31 AM
Gan misalnya menganti fb untuk ngerjain bounty sosmed apakah diperbolehkan ? Soalnya fb yang biasanya saya pakai ngerjain bounty  masih terkunci dan masih tahap verifikasi 😢
Ini pertanyaan harusnya ditujukan ke BM nya [langsung hubungi BM ny, bisa via tele atau inbox]. Hanya bisa dijawab BM yang bersangkutan, karena boleh atau tidaknya tergantung pada kebijakan BM tersebut. AFAIK, setiap BM kadang kala punya kebijakan yang berbeda-beda. BTW posisi agan ini sudah join bounty sosmed tertentu atau belum? Jika belum, itu namanya bukan mengganti, tapi menggunakan akun FB lain.
5858  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have control or not? on: May 06, 2020, 11:53:33 PM
You don't have to spend a lot of money to them thought otherwise this would have a negative impact to your life savings.
Indeed. Since the goal is for having fun, I think a gambler won't be so serious to spend a lot of money. In many cases, wasting a lot of money because of expecting too much to win the prize. Or he becomes emotional because of losses. But if a gambler has the intention to have fun, I guess he won't think too much about win or loss.

It is all about having fun even if the game is hard or not.
Hard or not should depend on the gambler. But personally, when I have the intention to have entertainment, I prefer to choose easy or fun games. So, I can enjoy it more without thinking hard during play.
5859  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Nyomot Gambar Dari Internet. Dosa [Plagiarisme] Nggak Sih? on: May 06, 2020, 11:42:16 PM
~snip~
Betul mbak, dan aturannya sudah cukup gamblang diuraikan OP di thread (page 1). Sudah kah dibaca tuntas?

Sedikit short-review

1. Sumber yang punya ket. hak cipta / lisensi
Tidak sembarangan gambar bisa kita ambil. Pada contoh kasus di atas, kompas.id tidak memperbolehkan mengambil gambar apapun. Sedangkan detik.com masih mengizinkan asal hanya untuk pengunaan pribadi dan non-komersil. (Perhatikan keterangan pada gambar "copyright")

2. creative common & public domain
Sah untuk mengambil gambar tersebut secara hukum, bahkan untuk diproduksi ulang (berlisensi CC 0 / Public domain). Perhatikan keterangan spesifikasinya pada gambar terkait "attribution".


Quote mbak di atas, saya kira salah tempat. Dan kalau komennya seperti itu, langsung reply aja mbak. Itu kan reply secara umum, bukan bagian tertentu pada OP.


>Atas saya lebih cepat! Keduluan Om Husna. Grin
5860  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is like day trading ? on: May 06, 2020, 11:09:06 PM
Both are completely different, they cant be compared as they are not apple to apple comparison. Gambling = pure luck while trading requires some technical analysis and knowledge.
I agree if we are talking about gambling games like dice, slots, or roulette. These games basically are no need special skills instead of luck to have a big role. While trading surely needs skills and certain knowledge in analyzing market trends. You will be at a big risk if you trade without sufficient knowledge and lack of skills. That's why people said to learn much before trading!     
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