You know, that's kind of the answer I've been looking for as to my question about whether futures exchanges can affect bitcoin's price and if so, how.  But you're saying that they're relying on the prices reported by "exchanges".  If that's true, any idea which exchange(s) they use?

That actually makes a lot of sense, though I know in the metals market the prices are actually created by the futures markets (right?).  The spot price of gold is what's reported on the commodities exchanges, and they're basically trading futures there.  I guess bitcoin is a different beast entirely.

Yeah....I think there might just be a little bit of a language barrier here preventing people from communicating efficiently. 

Do all Turks have hair-trigger tempers?  It seems like this isn't the first time I've seen a Turkish board member or multiple members fly completely off the handle with little provocation.  And that section isn't enormous, so I just have to wonder.

Aside from the outbursts I wouldn't have a problem with wolwoo being a merit source as long as he's not involved in some scandal, and I read through this whole thread and can't see where he's implicated.  I support local board merit sources in general since it prevents non-English speakers from trying to post in the English section.  I thought there was at least one merit source in the Turkish section but could be wrong.

That's one hell of a standard if you're talking about mental illness.  Not sure if wolwoo rises to CH's level; I think he might have intermittent explosive disorder-keyboard variant, but probably not stage IV schizophrenaheebiejeebia which CH has, no question.

Of course they're the ones who want it the most!  Getting rich from bitcoin has been the impetus for untold numbers of newcomers to the bitcoin scene, and they probably can't afford to own even a single, whole bitcoin.  Let 'em dream I say.

$10 million is a long-ass way away, though.  I have my doubts that I'll ever see that in my lifetime, and if it does happen I'll probably be thinking through a fog of Alzheimer's how to spend my bitcoin riches from a comfy bed in a nursing home.  Or hospice. 

One other good thing about a price that high is that it would allow institutional investors to own bitcoin outright, which they currently can't do as a practical matter since the market cap is too low to allow enormous purchases.  Currently they could buy bitcoin, but they'd be backing themselves into a corner by owning too large a percentage, which would be sheer hell if they tried to sell it.  Anyway, that price level is kind of a pipe dream to me.

I agree.  You registered here well after the merit system started, and it isn't easy to get to Sr. Member from scratch so congratulations. 

You don't necessarily have to learn more, you just have to continue making posts that catch the eye of members who've got merits to give.  Since you've already earned over 250 merits, you're obviously doing something right.  You'll get to Hero eventually, and I hope for you that it doesn't take over a year, which is about how long it took for you to earn your first 250 merits. 

I took a look at your merit page, and it's obvious you've got a few merit fans.  It's also good that you're giving a lot of merits to others.  I'll take a look through your post history and see if I can help you out a little.

I'm not sure you have to reveal any info for the widget to work, but you're probably right being suspicious of it and I sure as hell wouldn't install it on my computer.

This caught my eye:


The widget wouldn't help me one bit.  Know why?  Because two of those exchanges I can't use because of where I live; Kraken sucks and I'd never use them again; and I'm pretty sure the remaining three exchanges also aren't available where I live (though I haven't checked). 

And why provide the fee structure for only six exchanges?  Is this widget sponsored by StormGain or something (they have the lowest fees, apparently)?  This all smells really fishy to me.  Thanks, but no thanks.

Especially when bitcoin wasn't exactly in an upward trend at any point in the last month.  And no, a trader should never expect the market is going to keep going up even if it was in a bull run--the market tends to not do what you want it to, that's what I've learned over the years watching the stock market.  The crypto market is even more finicky. 

Also OP, you probably shouldn't have gambled your Christmas gift money away on bitcoin.  That's one of the first things you should learn when getting into crypto, and the advice has been repeated so many times on the forum that I wouldn't be able to count even if I wanted to:

You're going to blame us after you're dead?  You really don't have much of an education, do you?

600 participants?!  Holy crap, I didn't realize there were that many but then again I never checked--and I'm not sure even where to check.

But like you, I remember how the old Yobit campaign was and I do remember they had "problems" filling up their wallet to pay their campaign participants, but unlike what others have written I don't recall Yobit going months without doing it.  But I wasn't in it when they finally shut it down, so that could have been toward the end of the campaign.  Either way, Yobit is being irresponsible right now and that's a pattern for them, not only in paying the members in their campaign but not addressing their customers' issues and in general offering ludicrously horrible customer service.

One month is ridiculous when they've promised to pay everyone within hours of posting.  That's always been their terms.  They expect everyone else to abide by their rules, and yet they don't hold themselves to their own standards.  Nice, eh?

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Ah, thank you.  That's the thread I remember seeing.

I think it would be great if all trust feedback were written in English, but I agree with the above.  It's important that the feedback sender write as clearly as possible even if that isn't in English.  If someone thinks a feedback is important enough to read, it's easy enough to google translate it back into English.

I'm not sure how many DT members speak so little English that they couldn't write their feedbacks in it, but I'd probably agree that they ought to if they have enough proficiency.  I think the vast majority of members here are either native English speakers or are fluent in it and nearly everyone could probably understand a feedback even if it was written in garbled English.

To me, this isn't a huge deal because I have yet to run across a red trust that I couldn't understand or felt the need to translate.  And since this is the first time I've seen this issue brought up, my guess is that I'm not alone.

I'll put it in clearer English:  OP, you need to provide a link to back up your claim or else it's just you shitposting out of your ass.  How do you know what any whales are doing as far as accumulating bitcoin?  Eh?  Show me a reference so I can verify it.

Assuming this is true, just for the moment, I would say this is a good time to be doing it.  I don't think those "whales" (whoever they are) know what's going to happen to bitcoin price-wise any more than the rest of us do, but they probably see $7300 as an excellent buy-in point.  Then again, I'm not sure how many big-money players use either Binance or Bittrex to place big orders.  I would think they'd find a way to buy large amounts of bitcoin without using a crypto exchange and avoid the risks inherent with them.  But I'm not even close to being a whale and can't say I fully understand their psychology or trading methods.

Say what?  You ought to elaborate a little bit on this, as not everyone follows whatever thread you're talking about.  I've got the Services section on ignore so I don't see any campaign threads anymore.

Ooooh, I would love this.  For a long time I've been dying to know who runs Yobit and what their offices look like, if they even have offices.  I've always had an image of a couple of unkempt Russians with about three laptops running the exchange.  And never have I heard any details about what their operation is really like.  They're about the least transparent exchange in existence, and it blows my mind that they've been operating so long and either haven't failed or haven't pulled an exit scam. 

I'm no internet detective, but I do believe there are some good ones here on bitcointalk.  I'd love it if somebody dug up all their secrets and shone a bright light on what Yobit is really all about.  It can't be an impossible task.

Right, and I've no doubt there are a lot of people who bought in at the top and have probably sold at a loss.  And yes, whether the market is bullish or not depends on the time frame you're looking at.  The mood right now is kind of blah IMO.  There's no bullish momentum, that's for sure but nor is there any bearish momentum.  The bitcoin market is just idling like it tends to do in between huge spikes or dips.

So I'd disagree with OP's assertion that the bitcoin market is "really bullish".  Compare where it's at now to times when the price was in an upward trend--2013 & 2017 are great examples of that.  If you're using those two years as reference points, it's hard to say that bitcoin stuck at $7300 after falling from $9500 isn't anything bullish.

Of course he did, because he's just writing a generic shitpost for whatever bounty he's in (I've got signatures and avatars blocked, so I can't see what he's advertising).

Edit:  Oh, it's the cryptotalk.org campaign.  No wonder he's just jabbering on.

I've been wondering that about myself lately.  I haven't been nearly as active in busting scammers, account sellers, or anything as I have been in the past--there's a real-life reason for that which I won't go into, but I don't know that I'm actually sitting around quietly.  There have been DT members who've been inactive for long periods of time and have been removed because of that.  I think that's a bit different.

I generally agree with that, and I don't think there's much retaliation in my sent feedbacks.  Most of the negs I've been given were in retaliation for tags I handed out, and there are members who've left me red trust even though I never had any dealings with them and never red-trusted them. 

Not only don't I leave retaliatory feedback, but I rarely even check my trust page anymore.  I don't think I've actually looked at it in many months. 

Bump.

I'm now looking for exactly 0.00411885BTC at preev 1:1, and you'd have to be able to send it to a segwit address.  For some reason people have been having problems doing that now and then.  At present, this would be $30.85 $29.55 in PayPal funds.

Drop me a PM if you're interested.

Why aren't governments adopting cryptocurrencies like bitcoin?  For one thing, there isn't enough bitcoin available for multiple governments to own significant amounts--just look at bitcoin's market cap and you'll realize this.  Bitcoin would have to be worth millions per coin in order for that to work.

Second, how could any government justify spending money on crypto when it's probably the most volatile asset out there right now?  And to what purpose would they put that crypto?  The government in my country isn't having any problems whatsoever with the fiat they're pumping out at alarming rates.  It works for them even if it's not going to work for anyone in the long-term.  My guess is that they don't see any advantage to using crypto, and it's too risky to boot.

That's the same reason banks haven't adopted bitcoin.  It's also the reason why most people haven't adopted bitcoin--it's too volatile to use as a currency, and there isn't a fiat crisis such that using crypto would become necessary.  For nearly all businesses and people, fiat works for them and bitcoin isn't a solution to an existing problem.

Yeah, but that's no fun as an answer in and of itself.

These threads want opinions, enthusiasm, pessimism, optimism.  I'm of the belief that we can and will see another raging bull market like the one we saw in 2017.  And the only thing I base that on is my experience in the stock market where investors tend to forget all the bad parts of a bubble and repeat their same mistakes all over again once a certain amount of time passes.  So hell yes, I expect there to be some serious euphoria in the market, but it may take a year or even more for that to start to happen.  Could be less, and that's where the "I don't know" comes in.

If what I say is true, now would be a hell of a good time to start stockpiling bitcoin.  That euphoria and crazy bull market that's sure to come will no doubt drive bitcoin up to and past its previous ATH of $20k or whatever it was.  It's going to happen.

"He" isn't becoming a "senate".  She is going to become a senator, apparently.  But I thought senators were elected by the public and weren't appointed by anyone else.  I'm an ignoramus about politics, but I'm pretty sure senators aren't made this way.

In any case, this could be a really good thing for crypto because it's obvious that Kelly Loeffler knows about and supports cryptocurrencies.  However, that could also mean that she would push for more regulation and who knows what else.  You just never know what a politician is going to do once they get into office.  But at the very least she isn't one who's ignorant about bitcoin and probably doesn't have biases against it.  We'll have to see what happens.

Yeah, I've noticed that tendency myself--and not just in the crypto space.  It happens with a bunch of different groups and issues, and I guess that's just how human psychology works.

This is true, but that doesn't mean I agree with all of your feedbacks left for other members, and I'm sure it goes both ways.  If you see that I've left a neg for someone and you didn't think they deserved it, I would expect either of you or anyone else to challenge me on it.  That's part of the way DT members police themselves.

That may be the case, but if you're leaving negative trust for members you ought to realize that when you're on DT it carries much more weight and that DT members should be held to a higher standard because of that.  That's the reason why I don't tag shitposters anymore or spammers or even members who are being dishonest unless they're actually trying to scam someone. 

Account sellers are a personal crusade for me, because I genuinely believe they're doing a disservice to the forum and shouldn't be trusted, but I'm aware that there are people who disagree with feedbacks I've left because of that.  I welcome dissention, as it makes me reevaluate my position (though I haven't yet changed it).

I assume whatever device you're writing posts on has a calendar app, so maybe that might help you....?  Lol.

Based on what Lauda's feedback states, I think it was pretty harsh.  Lauda might not trust eddie13 based upon his words, but that's a judgement call on Lauda's part that seems to be questionable.  Myself, I wouldn't have left eddie13 a neg for that but that's just me.  Lauda is free to distrust whoever he/she wants, and if any DT or non-DT members disagree with the feedback enough, they can counter it.

Is Lauda still on DT1/2?  I've got them on my trust list so eddie13's neg shows up as trusted, but as DT members keep getting rotated in and out, I have a hard time following whether certain members are even on DT2.  I'm assuming Lauda is on some level of DT, which makes that feedback suck for the recipient even more.  In any case, there's no much that can be done about it unless Lauda is removed from DT entirely, and I tend to think he/she does more good than harm--but at the same time I hate to see feedbacks like this one and flags like the one Lauda created against a member that I felt obligated to oppose. 

The trust system shouldn't be used to neg members based on a difference of opinion or an interpretation of someone's words that seems kind of a stretch.  Excluding them from your trust list might be a better option, but a red trust doesn't seem appropriate IMO.

Or a crypto exchange!  Lol, I'm only half kidding--it could be that crap exchanges like Yobit are fronts for something, but that's just wild speculation on my part, and I'm not accusing them or any other exchange of anything.  But I have thought it would be an excellent way to launder money before, and no doubt that's going to be an opportunity gone by the wayside once all exchanges are regulated.

I'm pretty sure there have been instances of crypto money laundering in addition to the ones mentioned in this thread, but I don't think it's anywhere near as big a deal as the government would want people to believe it is.  Like you said, most money laundering and tax evasion happens like it always has, with fiat and through otherwise legitimate businesses.  That's not likely to change, either.

That's not money laundering, necessarily.  Those are just criminal activities in general.

And now you're staff--funny how the attraction to the forum works, eh?

Ugh, makes me wish I'd gotten into bitcoin much sooner than I did.  Must've been a wild time to be a gambler.

So this is a case of mistaken identity here?  And the forum isn't going down the tubes because we have a staff member who gambled away what would become millions of dollars worth of bitcoin?  OK then.  Next drama, please.I thought Lauda had the drug habit.  Oh wait, that was an unfounded accusation by QS just like this whole thread is against malevolent (unless OP provides even a shred of proof).