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5881  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sorry to inform you, the current rally is over now... or very soon. on: February 28, 2013, 11:08:16 PM
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5882  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sorry to inform you, the current rally is over now... or very soon. on: February 28, 2013, 11:06:37 PM
This was on page 1 of the thread.
Was anyone able to respond to the challenge? Perhaps I didn't see it
...
  • Please post any chart from ANY financial market in modern or ancient history that shows a massive, dramatic upward spike without a sharp correction.

Good luck finding one.

5883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sorry to inform you, the current rally is over now... or very soon. on: February 28, 2013, 06:47:21 PM
I didn't say which week. Though it will be soon, real soon. Very soon even.
5884  Economy / Economics / Re: The psychology of bitcoin prices on: February 28, 2013, 04:25:43 PM
It may well be, but on the other hand when you have thousands of years of history to back up a theory...

1000 years of history has us riding horses and burning dung to stay warm. 1000 years is a short period time in one aspect and a long period of time in another. So much has changed in the last 200 years and it would take something very, very drastic to reverse some of those changes (using steam as a power source will likely never go away for example) and something that drastic would complicate calculations of price more, not less.

Regardless, I'm planning on adding some silver to the portfolio. Though durable goods is top of the list at the moment.

5885  Economy / Economics / Re: The psychology of bitcoin prices on: February 28, 2013, 04:12:21 PM
Why should people return to silver and gold when there is a far superior alternative?

I think I know what you're referring to Grin but that "far superior alternative" still requires internet. Gold and silver aren't going away (IMO): we know have precious metals and cryptocurrencies (of which BTC is king) to work with, and you can never have too much free competition.

I think gold may get the squeeze from bitcoin. Silver is still reasonable to be used as a currency in the case of collapse but gold, whilst not completely useless, is a bit ungainly in such circumstances.
5886  Economy / Economics / Re: The psychology of bitcoin prices on: February 28, 2013, 04:09:18 PM
I just watched a YouTube video about the "case for $960 [per ozt] silver". In the Roman Empire, historically, one silver denarius of about a tenth of an ounce, was equated in value to about a day's hard labour. In modern society it seems that gold and silver have been seriously demonetized, and presumably, if it comes to pass, a failure, either partial or total, of paper money/credit, will revalue them closer to their historic value. That's what the metalbugs think, anyway, but there's no absolute certainty they're right, only a degree of probability.

That makes no sense to me. Since then, materials have changed, mining technologies have changed, the population has changed and jewelery and coin production methodologies and usages have changed. To say they are currently undervalued is one thing but to make claims that they will revalue close to their previous values is unfounded.
5887  Economy / Economics / Re: The psychology of bitcoin prices on: February 28, 2013, 03:46:07 PM
People dont understand that there was a time when 10 USD was a monthly sallary, and that people used to deal in cents

I was reading the other day, (possibly on here) of someone who carries a silver dollar around (with $1 stamped on it, obviously) and asks people how much it's worth to illustrate what inflation has done to the currency.
5888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sorry to inform you, the current rally is over now... or very soon. on: February 28, 2013, 03:40:38 PM
I predict a crash all the way to 35 by end-of-week.
5889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it a good idea to buy Bitcoin now at $29? on: February 28, 2013, 03:31:11 PM
It is still a good idea to buy now - the rally is hardly over. There will be small corrections, but most people accept a state of "permanent rally" now and will purchase BTC when the price gets any bit lower.

I'd hesitate to say "buy now". That's a knee-jerk response. Devise a strategy and stick with it. Assigning a small portion of income to purchasing bitcoins is one of the smarter ideas though more complex ones are certainly feasible.
5890  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: France Is Planning To Prohibit Cash Payments Over €1,000 on: February 28, 2013, 03:28:52 PM

Or perhaps you are just some kid. In that case, i hope that when you grow up, you will start to understand things.

I think he understands things pretty well, looks like.
5891  Economy / Economics / Re: Why the FED likes bitcoin on: February 27, 2013, 09:34:40 PM
So let's examine this scenario: Government prints money, gives to banks, banks lend to people, people buy bubble item of the month, sorry, I mean Bitcoin, bubble bursts, money disappears, bankers get rich, politicians get rich, public gets shafted.

Sorry, how is this any different than SOP?
5892  Economy / Economics / Re: The psychology of bitcoin prices on: February 27, 2013, 08:05:57 PM
Not really necessary. It's just an artifact of not being familiar with dealing with multiple currencies. Growing up, a £ would buy you several thousand Italian Lira and nobody thought of changing the pound (though I believe the Lira was actually revalued some time before the Euro was adopted). Time to move away from provincialism, it's a global economy now.
5893  Economy / Economics / Re: inflation-corrected value of a bitcoin on: February 27, 2013, 07:19:24 PM
Inflation makes the dollar worth less. So less inflation would imply fewer dollars per btc, not more.

Edit: Oh wait, nevermind. You meant BTC inflation.
5894  Economy / Economics / Re: UK Downgraded from LOL to LMAO on: February 27, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
The pound is down nearly 10c against the dollar in the last couple of weeks and nearly 50c since 2001. This is with all the inflation the dollar has been experiencing itself.
5895  Economy / Economics / Re: I think the concept of saving has been lost with this generation. on: February 27, 2013, 07:09:03 PM
I hear people using terms like hoarding, trading, investing etc. Bulls and Bears argue about who predicted the latest rally or trap. A recent thread boasted about selling Bitcoins to buy a new car. I mentioned that I would have financed the vehicle with a low interest rate over years because Bitcoin's ROI outperforms everything. Somehow, I just think that there is a generation that wants everything now and doesn't really think long term.

You would borrowing money to buy a depreciating asset?  The average depreciation for a car is 15% a year.  That is like borrowing money in USD and holding it when it has an inflation rate of 15% a year.
I can think of a lot of things that have a better than 15% ROI. Dumping liquidity on a car is a poor investment. In fact, leasing a car is probably a much better idea. In the case of Bitcoin, it's like throwing away three cars for the price of one when we are seeing a 300% or higher performance every year.

I suspect "correct" answer #1 was to liquidate a little bitcoin and buy a cheaper used vehicle. Correct answer #2 would have been to do the same with borrowed money rather than case in everything bitcoin. Exchange the order of these based on your aversion to debt (Though I believe money was borrowed to buy the bitcoins in this case which clouds the issue).

However, the simple fact is that Rassah wanted a shiny new car, had the funds to do so, cashed out, taking good profit and got something he wanted and paid off some debt to boot (I believe). There is nothing wrong with that in my book.
5896  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: France Is Planning To Prohibit Cash Payments Over €1,000 on: February 27, 2013, 02:52:24 PM
People won't use Bitcoin for transactions if they feel it'd be illegal to use cash for those transactions, simple as that. So yes it is a big problem.

But if they want to use cash for a transaction but using one of the usual suspects is risky/difficult, there is an alternative.
5897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sorry to inform you, the current rally is over now... or very soon. on: February 27, 2013, 02:49:09 PM


Mantonis has done like 10+ Forbes articles on bitcoin.  No new eyes there.

And he's clearly a cheerleader. Which is not a bad thing per-se but it should immediately trigger "I am reading a biased article" flags in anyone with a bit of common sense. Definitely not as beneficial as an article which would show a somewhat balanced approach maybe tinged with a little skepticism.
5898  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Voting] Bitcoin Slogan / Tagline on: February 27, 2013, 02:45:14 PM
Strength in Numbers

I like this one.
5899  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: France Is Planning To Prohibit Cash Payments Over €1,000 on: February 27, 2013, 04:50:11 AM
Strangely, I have a feeling this is an extremely bad thing for Bitcoin because one of the major arguments being used is the anonymous nature of cash, and its use in tax evasion, crime and every other bad thing since Moses was a boy!
Or alternatively, everything that makes the usual currencies harder to use is a point in Bitcoin's favor.

It will be interesting to see how this develops!



Indeed.
5900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Sorry to inform you, the current rally is over now... or very soon. on: February 27, 2013, 04:47:14 AM
Any second, any second... Wait for it... any second... here we... any... any... just about nnnnn.... any second... keep watching... keep watching... Here we ggggg.... any moment, right about right nnnn... it's right on the edge... here it cccc... don't look away... one little... just one... any second... It... is... going... to... happen... five... four... three... two... one and a half... one and a quarter... one and three sixteenths... here it... here it... nearly...

Any second, its gonna break the all-time high??  Grin

No-no. It's going to crash so hard, it'll take out an orphanage and leave a crater. Honest.


Cheesy
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