Wait, you expect to use your USD - overwhelmingly digital, or your Visa - intractibly dependent upon the Internet, after the apocalypse you've been prepping for? Because the comsats'll be comsatting and interweb providers'll be providing interwebs@groundzer0? Maybe swap the $117.37 that your on-hand cash is limited to for tins of dog food, hmm? You wacky, conventionally stupid old people! The nutty shit you imagine!
Us fiat-lovers ... The point is that the old saw about 'your bitcoin is useless when the interwebs go dark' is trotted out time after time by idiot detractors that don't even realize that they're in the exact same predicament. They ignorantly toss it about as if to make their case. Of course, when it comes to picking up the pieces afterwards, my money is on the prospect that the resourceful cryptonerds will get up a fully functional bitcoin packet radio network long before the merely resource-controlling overlords will restore access to the Internet-dependent monetary system to the mere peon subjects. Of course, if not, it's not as if its dollars before bitcoins -- it would be dollars concurrent with bitcoins. edit: s/their/they're/
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With over half a mil sitting in the bank, the lower-middle-class Briton could live for over 250,000 days, or over 685 years on two dollars a day, without having to do a lick of useful work.
Umm, no. Not if the bank is charging them negative interest. Let alone the fact that one cannot live on $2 a day in the UK.
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Crawl back into your WWIII bunker filled with your useless filth you call fiat. Bathe in it, burn it for warmth, use it to wipe your disgusting arses, because soon that is all it will be useful for.
Wait, you expect to use your funbux after the apocalypse you've been prepping for? Because the comsats'll be comsatting and interweb providers'll be providing interwebs@groundzer0? Maybe swap some paper wallets for tins of dog food, hmm? You wacky, disruptively stupid young people! The nutty shit you imagine! Aside from the fact that OP was talking about * fiat-lover's* WWIII bunker, not bitcoin-lover's bunker.... Wait, you expect to use your USD - overwhelmingly digital, or your Visa - intractibly dependent upon the Internet, after the apocalypse you've been prepping for? Because the comsats'll be comsatting and interweb providers'll be providing interwebs@groundzer0? Maybe swap the $117.37 that your on-hand cash is limited to for tins of dog food, hmm? You wacky, conventionally stupid old people! The nutty shit you imagine!
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It will be interesting to see how deep Homero's scams reach into other commercial endeavors within the Bitcoin space. Cryptsy, for example, seems that it may have been in bed with him in the Paycoin scam.
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That is what got me about all this (I did not have anything in GAW/Paycoin) ..is HE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING LEGIT with the leverage he had as a legit hardware manufacturer . legit hardware manufacturer? eta: ooohhhhkaaaaayyyyy..... well more legit then bfl before the whole cloud mining etc etc there are at least GAW miners (labeled anyway) out there that did ROI None of Homero's endeavors ever manufactured mining equipment. Sure, he sold some units made by others. In what alternate universe do people fork over millions, based upon the credibility that he was the equivalent of a clerk at radio shack ([tm] RIP)?
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That is what got me about all this (I did not have anything in GAW/Paycoin) ..is HE COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING LEGIT with the leverage he had as a legit hardware manufacturer . legit hardware manufacturer? eta: ooohhhhkaaaaayyyyy.....
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Gavin can change the code at any time. Isn't that one person with way too much power over the project?
I'm surprised to hear this from you. Gavin can change_some_ code at any time. He is powerless to change any code that anyone else is running. Hell, he can't even make changes to Bitcoin Core without the approval of the gatekeeper he put in place when he gave up the helm.
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To be fair, I don't know any of the facts
From your incredulity so far, it is quite evident that you don't know any of the facts. Before you dig your hole any deeper, you might want to learn something about the facts of the case, as uncovered by independent non-professional investigation (the SEC ain't gonna share their files with you, you need another source): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.0You might want to prepare a bushel of coffee beans before you launch in. Thread is long. Evidence is copious. And while some skepticism about actions brought about by agencies of the government is healthy, you're just making yourself look stupid by assuming that this is nothing more than malicious prosecution.
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WTF is GBTC? Whose implication?
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1. Stuart Fraser hasn't been held accountable for his involvement.
To be fair to the guy, what did he ever do other than funding Garza's projects ? I think Stu was probably the person who got Paycoined the worst... Stu's endorsement was the credibility builder that allowed the entire scam to take flight. No way the incoherent shyster would have had more than a pittance of marks without it.
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@Chartbuddy: Nice Avatar!
Is BlindMayorBitcorn related to ChartBuddy? I liked the HAL theme, but there is something deliciously ironic about Brother Ray with 3D shades. Whoever does run ChartBuddy - thanx for the occasional alternate gifs. They almost always elicit a little chuckle.
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i think i have done enough waiting..
Enough waiting? Three years ago today, the price was about twelve bucks american. From my perspective, that ain't too bad. Perhaps more patience is in order.
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What will happen when bitcoin introduces zerocash or CT, and become truly anonymous? Will they become obsolete?
If bitcoin becomes anonymous, why would anyone other than the owners of mixing services care what happens to them? I certainly wouldn't.
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Well, no. At that point, he is clearly referring to an earlier attempt on the part of his group. The one that fell through when the Honduran Supreme Court overturned the constitutional changes that would have allowed the project to happen therein. See 7:00 - "when ... interests in Honduras .. rejected the plan, it was a bitter defeat. But Honduras was not the only country we were negotiating with. Queitly we have been working with a different country on a different project"
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@jbreher: Is THIS the one, ZEDE?
I honestly don't know. When Yago presented at the Bitcoin 2013 conference in San Jose, he quite pointedly refused to divulge with which country Epiphyte was negotiating. Honduras seems quite plausible. That since-imploded Chilean thing had already been in discussion elsewhere, so I know that it is not the same effort. eta: more info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316449.0Further eta: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208333.0;allFurther further edit after re-familiarization: Nope - not Honduras.
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Yeah, I think that's what jbreher is talking abou, not sure why he's denying it. A "'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent." Aptly called Galt's Gulch ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Jbreher, you sure this doesn't ring any bells? "We aren't seeking to become a sovereign state, or city, as others have proposed in the past. We are simply offering a safe and prosperous place for people to come together and enjoy life in an economic climate that nobody has ever experienced before." It rings plenty of bells. Different project. That's why I am denying it. Quite simple, really. I don't know why you persist in trying to mischaracterize my posts.
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Are you talking about that seastedding thing, a floating nation made out of discarded tires and empty milk jugs, tethered to an abandoned oil derrick? no. Or that chunk of no man's land between Serbia and Croatia some enterprising nation-builder creatively called "Liberland"? <==hahahaha
no.
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Back in 2013, Edan Yago's / Epiphyte's project was negotiating with some relatively impoverished nation to create a kind of 'regulatory hands-off' real-life Galt's Gulch equivalent. I lost track of that project somewhere along the way.
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We'll never speak of it again ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If only I could take you at your word, sonnyderp.
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