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5901  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 09:11:21 AM
DUDE, there you are WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!?

Jesus, it has been mayhem out there
5902  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 09:07:11 AM
the fuck is a Cardano?
5903  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 05:03:02 AM
if 12900 doesn't hold we're going to 9300

$8,000 will be the low, r-right..........?

next under 93 is 68 the way I see it






the fuck is rosewater goddammit?
5904  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 04:59:07 AM
if 12900 doesn't hold we're going to 9300
5905  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 04:34:24 AM
WTF?

you guys ain't bid this back up yet?
5906  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 03:56:50 AM
next resistance I see is around 12900, that would be the fore mentioned P3ER line
5907  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 03:52:56 AM

Should I panic sell all my coins at the bottom?

too late
5908  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 03:16:42 AM
damn

we're almost down to the parabolic-er-er-er line set by the low on the 22nd

I guess parabolic-er-er-er-er is postponed for now
5909  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 02:05:50 AM
oh my
5910  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 12:45:46 AM
We are not really in the habit of giving investment advise MBielsa, but if it was me I would certainly be eyeing the exit.
5911  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 12:33:29 AM
Koreans are best off buying Bitcoin right now so their funds will be safe and easily taken with them during any mass evacuations from war.  Russia refueling North Korea and getting caught just now is just the start of more instability...

I wouldn’t count on Ripple liquidity and support.

uhhh, minor point, it was China caught refueling NK

Russia, hate being corrected when not wrong.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-5221775/Russian-tankers-fuelled-North-Korea-transfers-sea--sources.html


We are both correct.  There were 2 stories.  I had not yet seen the new one you are referring to and jumped to a conclusion, my apologies sir.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/27/chinese-ships-spotted-satellites-selling-oil-north-korea-30/
5912  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 30, 2017, 12:05:33 AM
trying hard to break down
5913  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 09:47:55 PM
Koreans are best off buying Bitcoin right now so their funds will be safe and easily taken with them during any mass evacuations from war.  Russia refueling North Korea and getting caught just now is just the start of more instability...

I wouldn’t count on Ripple liquidity and support.

uhhh, minor point, it was China caught refueling NK
5914  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:23:17 PM
...deals with banks...

'nuff said
5915  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:56:24 AM
whelp, this thread is going to hell

see you guys in the morning
5916  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:36:19 AM
this Coinomi is a phone thing?

don't tell me people are keeping real money on phones...
5917  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 07:03:37 AM
It'd be big, specially for Trezor as a company; but I don't think it would be that big or even profitable in terms of money if you think about it. Being offline devices, the damage would be considerably mitigated by time alone. You'd (hopefully) get an email from Trezor an hour after the first few cases confirm a trend warning you to not plug and power your hw anywhere.

Going through the long con of modifying a chip design, going into production, distributing to retailers/waiting for the chips to be used by a company, and then sold and used; only to then choose a date when enough are in circulation to trigger the 0day, and only get as bounty the first random few wallets that come online that day... There are probably easier less involved ways to be a criminal.

They could try to simply sneak out a couple packets with key data every so often, and just acumulate them for the future; but that would get easily found out by people using them in secure networks.

I agree that it is pretty unlikely, but I would point out that the knock off chip fabs are already technically criminals, and the tainted parts would operate normally in non trezor applications and would be sold at a profit.
5918  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 06:38:46 AM
I am, seriously, going to bury a laminated copy somewhere on my land. And have smaller amounts also in my hidden home safe. (I have a visible decoy safe bought very cheap from Cina with some crap in it).

and now the internet knows all these things
5919  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 06:35:21 AM
also, please see the edit to my post above regarding the Ledger

What I am waiting for before I migrate to a hardware solution is something well built, they are both just laughably flimsy, and open source save for the secure enterprise chip, with a larger screen and more than 2 buttons.

Is that too much to ask?
5920  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 29, 2017, 06:32:30 AM
The part in question is the STM32F205RET6 ARM processor which is easy enough to order up at the usual sources.

Unfortunately, counterfeit parts are epidemic in the components industry today, and the incentive to spin up a "special" one of these is...rather large

Can't you trust the usual places to source you clean parts? Where do SatoshiLabs order their parts?

Now you are starting to think.  THAT is a very good question.  One would hope that they have a secure delivery arrangement with the manufacturer...one would hope...their website is mute on the subject.

You guys had convinced me to get one until I read this post.

Is there any evidence to raise the minimum glimpse of suspicion? #doyouknowsomethingwedont?



Let me be clear.

I am NOT trying to spread FUD, nor dissuade anyone from using a Trezor.  This is a purely theoretical threat vector.

I am one paranoid motherfucker gentlemen.  The sums are...substantial...
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