23rd august 2015 19JdRyJXnWJRUFNERufQn3wavh7hpj38sd
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which is odd, BTCjam makes money thru the Reputation System...
They dont but they make money from their platform, from all of the loan there. Basically every loan under 5 BTC will have 4 % fee and over 5 BTC will have 2 % fee. The reputation loan is not a must, you can go through it slowly but if you want to get a faster rating then this is how you do that , it is pretty common there and almost everyone do this to boost their rating to at least B / B- because it is pretty hard to even get 0.5 BTC loan with C rating I see that you also don't have any personal references which I would think would play somewhat of a part in your score.
Yes this as well but unless you got personal references from someone with high rating then it wont affect any difference at all
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look at this crazy win streak i observed on crimedice
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Well you can call me skeptics but judging from the screencap I can say that quite obvious the guy "know" what is the next roll number will be. The chosen multiplier is almost too good to be true which is pretty close to the roll number. Actually this is much expected from a dice site with coindice script ( wonder why someone keep spending their BTC for such script with lot of loopholes while there are Dan's free scripts which is free and bugless)
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Obviously dice will never be ev+ that makes no sense, it's impossible
This statement is totally wrong, in fact some dices are +EV . For example jackpot in DaDice , it has been proven that if you are only hunting for the jackpot then this is totally +EV for you. Raffles ticket in Betterbets ( if you know how to get ir properly ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ). In fact if you know how to play it "smartly" then you can turn the edge over to you which of course involving giveaway / contest winning and investing in the bankroll ( this isnt part of "playing dice" but still a way to get +EV for you )
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no i had no open Loan. I now opend one just to see if that increase my Reputation, if i pay it back instant. The reputation increase correspondent to the number of loan that you have repaid also with the positive rating that you get from your lender but keep in mind that it doesnt mean that your reputation will increase with just 1 loan ( I dont know the exact math but it will take few loan ). Also there is a 4 % fee applied to your loan, so if you open a loan with 1 % interest for reputational purposes in fact you need to pay 5 % of the amount that you loaned ( 4 % + 1 % ) . That is quite a sacrifice to lose some but it is quite needed if you want a faster higher rating
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After all that i had a Score of B- and could lend BTC for roughly 12%.
I seem to miss this but do you have an open loan? If you have got a loan then your rating will goes down. This is to prevent someone from getting alot of loan in one time ( lower rating harder to get loan ). It will be up once you fully repay your loan besides if you want to increase your rating, all you need to do is to "repay your loan" that is the reason why people open a "reputational loan" . Reputational loan is a loan with lower interest and fast repayment (almost instant) thus if you do this multiple times than your rating will be higher
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There isnt any need to start all over this thing again. The negative trust is some sort of warning and not a sole guidance as people are free to proceed at their own cost. Bringing this matter over and over again wont change any rating of Dadice because if they want their rating to be changed, all they need is to sign a simple BTC address which they refused . Furthermore, if you got a site that you suspect as a scammer than you will just need to PM few guys on default trust, it is not likely every one of them going on a patrol in scam accusation
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This is what everyone thought as well but apparently it seems the fee is until the end of each year. With that said, there is no point in paying the fee now since you will only get around 5 months left of weekly payout until the end of 2015 and that is if only this "ponzi" able to sustain itself until the end of the year with so many doubt around
And it isn't on a sliding scale that accounts for how many payouts are left in the "year". Assuming that it will last until the end of the year then it will be 20 times weekly payout for that account but then again since it is a timebomb then there is no guarantee that you will get 20 times of weekly payout ( you could be screwed by this ). Also probably there is never an ROI if you got a lot of gen2 in your account GOT paid . I'm thinking of buying some shares and increase them ....
Even if you got paid by Chris that doesnt mean he is legit . Increasing the shares in your possesion would be taking more timebombs with you. Alas those who paid the fee are the one that keep this ponzi up and running and those who get in first always get profit anyway assuming there will be another person that get in "after" you
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oldmate has confirmed in the past that he knew the site owner before diggit.io was launched. This strengthen my speculation which means that the owner of the site may be coming back in the future or have some plan for later because it is really pointless to leave 300 + BTC sitting for almost nothing in the site while he can gain more if he put it in a site with higher wagered counter per day. It may not seem to be "abandoned" right now but much like leaving it aside for now as the owner has stated few times that he is busy with some IRL work (?) Hey everyone. Sorry for the lack of replies here. Been very busy!
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This is horrible, why run a gambling website without a domain. Do not visit!
The beauty of moneypot let you to visit such site without giving any of your accounts credentials. There is no harm in visiting such site because your account data is protected in moneypot, apart from that there is also no harm to play in a "no-domain" site like this which everyone think might not be provably fair but it is provably fair because it uses moneypot's API I fail to see why someone want to play on this There is no harm in creating one because the developer bear no risk at all. Even if there is no one that play here, he got nothing to lose besides that he can play there by himself and got something back for each wager. some other popular dice sites or some well-made moneypot apps like Dustdice and Coining A Dice.
Funny statement, guess again but DustDice and Coining A Dice isnt the "popular dice sites" in moneypot. Hint : check out the wagered status and you will know which one
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I doubt the dev will go thru this much trouble to code something like that I dont see a point on why not if there is a demand to some features as you can see on the previous page that the developer has no intention on leaving this project which means that he is here to stay and add more feature to the existing bot And even if there was a winning stragegy the dice site owners would simply go against us.
Simply think clearer. There isnt any winning strategy but that doesnt mean that you will just need to blindly bet your BTC and hope for the best. Some people just want to use some long term strategy which involves smaller stake which means the faster speed will be more favorable for this strategy and bot comes in handy
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arallmuus (the mod on BetterBets) also uses XP and can't test my bot ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) if I want to add WinXP support I would need to rewrite a lot of code, remove .NET Framework 4.5 functions that I'm using and replace them for older functions ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I have to take a look around that and see if it's worth. Sorry for now ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Not worth it, there are not so many people that uses XP anymore probably less than 5 % from all windows user and from that 5 % there is probably only around a fraction of it that is aware of a BTC dice sites which means that would be just an extra workload for you ( these number is merely speculations though there isnt really many people that uses XP still P.S : I got another pc btw but that old thing isnt connected to any internet ( thought I might just leave it to serve as cold wallet someday ) windows vista and up only? am i only one who still uses xp? i feel so old right now and outdated can i expect xp support in the future because it looks really great as far as i can see from pictures
Well you can always use VPS for it, get one that is close or in Germany ( frankfurt ) if you want a top notch speed to use it on betterbets
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are they already a confirmed scam ? I mean did they scam everyone yet or are they still "legit"
They are never "legit" to begin with. No legit company will need to lie so much ever since the first day they decided to lay foot in bitcointalk. Apart from that, the definitions of scam depends on your personal perspective because for me they are already a scammer since day 1, they didnt pay their signature campaign ( which I dont care but still that is a scam to me ), didnt pay for their social campaign ( again, dont care but still a scam ) also they change their business model from "investment" into selling hardware all at sudden along with heavy advertising throughout the social media which indicates that they need a quick buck ( pretty much a scam to me) Also this guy that claimed he lost/was scammed over 2,500 pounds ....I'm out over 2,500 pounds....
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Why betterbets is so much laggy it is stopped working again and again so i have to refresh my page.
Nothing is stop working around here and everything works fine for everybody ( well except Ranlo whose account is being checked at the moment) . Are you sure you are even on Betterbets page? From the references below you can check on the players that are currently botting at the site without any issue at all References : https://www.moneypot.com/apps/14-betterbetsIf you actually have any problem, please state your username or chat at the chatbox to let me know what is going on because it could be just a connection issue from your account though
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i can't seem to understand how that can be fun for people, besides the obvious reason which is to win money.
Funny that there is still a need for this thread despite that you do know the obvious reason already. Most people play every single type of gambling for the sole entertainment or profit which is the major reason for that. Some people find it fun to play on a dice sites and you dont which is not a problem because it is a matter of personal perspective. On the other hand, not everyone play in dice sites to get profit, most just play a small amount and spend time on the chatroom to chat
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large numbers of users, 25+, claiming the faucet Thats pretty common in every gambling sites. A top dice sites obviously have higher number of faucet claimed per minutes imo Is the site really abandoned?
Abandoned is not the correct words for it more seem to be like less time to manage the site therefore the owner left it there with the hope that everything will be going smoothly while he is not around. If you check on the site you will see that there are about 300+ BTC investment just from oldmate alone which means that oldmate knows that the owner isnt going anywhere just less time to manage the site for now because no sane person will keep his 300+ BTC in an abandoned site if he got no information from the owner
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but i can bet here you will find alot of people who will be willing to continue this thread Probably not, if there is someone willing to update this then the person will already post the new code here ( I could be wrong on this). could you put the PNYC || Payment not yet confirmed label on it so other's won't be mislead into joining it , thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That isnt possible because the PYNC is to mark a campaign that hasnt paid out their campaign and 64blocks has paid out before. Best thing to do would be to take 64blocks campaign out of the thread because there isnt a sign of activity already and moreover there isnt anyone that manage the campaign already it hasn't payed anyone for almost a month Regarding this, everyone that hasnt been paid should PM Dabs ( not sure if someone did this already or not ) because he is one of the owner of the 64 blocks site. Not even sure if Dabs is actually aware of his campaign situation right now References : Why should I trust you?
Answer: Dabs & Bitclever are both co-owners of this project. In the event anything occurs, Dabs will be able to cover the campaign.
It would probably be a good idea to offer escrow as you are very new here and it would not be advisable for people to join without any kind of guarantee of receipt of payment.
Don't worry, I got his back. It's my site he's advertising. I'll make it more formal if you really want one.
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It is weird, I always use the same connection but this is the first time I'm getting so often error message, nothing change when I use the old UI even getting worst problem ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) One more error message that I have never got before "missing version info". What is this? Sorry for the inconvenience. The house pushed a new update to the site ( see post #2 for developer's update) therefore you are missing the new version of the site. Everyone who was playing on the site before the update is automatically logged out but it seems those who didnt will need to log out manually. Just log out your account and try to login it back via moneypot, it should do the trick . Kindly report back after that though
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yeah it is usefull but he have not updated it from almost 1 month alof of changins have been made during this period alof new campaigns came some closs some change maximum number of posts etc The thing is, it is pretty hard to keep track of all the campaign. There is a lot of changes that has been made therefore that is an extra workload to keep on changing it over and over again. The info may not be up to date however it still helps because there is a link to the thread and someone can easily just click on the link and head over to the thread to see the up to date information. An extra note is that it is pretty "hard" to keep on changing the code in OP (I did it once and it is sure a workload ) i know he is so busy if he dont have time then i think he should handover this thread to someone else
Anyone that want to keep this thread up dated can easily help by changing the code in OP and PM mitchell afterward. It will ease his job instead of changing it by himself 300-400 posts a week? That seems impossible
Nope definitely not impossible, Amph got around 50+ a day, thats 300+ a week
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Weird. Just tried the site on 2 devices, and I can't do anything. It's not even showing the other bets from others, my history, etc. On none of my devices can I get it to load properly
Everything working fine on my end. It could be either connection issue or the last update that pushes something wrong on your end. Did your account got automatically logged out ? If not then I suggest you to try logging it out and logging it in again ( sometimes this do the trick though) Is this like connection issue? A speculation, it could be just I can't load my account tab. Always getting error message "Error processing your request ... please try again a little later" when I clicked Your Account tab. Everything working perfectly on my end. A connection issue more likely ( happened to me alot when my connection is bad ). Can you try to log out and login again , kindly report back if the same thing still happen though Just feel a little bit heavier to load everything..
Well I dont know if this is the cause but alternatively you can use https://betterbets.io/app/game/dice/# to use the old UI ( this barely consume large bandwith ) because sometimes the new UI is harder to load if you got a bad connection . Also once you load the page, try to click to any other tabs aside from the "all bets tab" and see if that did the trick ( if you got a bad connection, that could be the issue though )
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