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5941  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin 20 Years From Now on: December 27, 2016, 04:32:46 PM
20 years again is still long time, I can't imagine bitcoin, but I estimate bitcoin 20 years again will be replaced with a better money system, the same as Paypal which is now starting to be abandoned.

Yes, I agree with you that 20 years is too long to predict its value, the effective prediction of bitcoin is from 2 to 5 year from now where the value of the bitcoin and from prediction will not be far. Or just predict at least 10 years from now.
5942  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 27, 2016, 04:24:47 PM
Insider trading is the only reason there is money to be made in crypto.....if there is no insider trading then it ain't crypto.

You got a point mate. But this is a free market with no regulations and nobody to prevent such activities like insider trading. There are pump groups who have connections with developers of many altcoins and they pump them up.

The best way is to go with the tide and try to profit from it.
5943  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: December 27, 2016, 04:13:18 PM
Very true, because how would you know that you are going to be successful if you are not going to try to be one?,
how would you earn money if you are afraid of being scam? Risking is the key for us to know what would happen,
maybe we have been scammed but it doesn't mean that it will always happen. Just always take the risk to know everything that you wanted to know, don't be afraid.

Yes, this is very true statement, How could you know if you do not try, risking is the key of the success in every business we have in real life, we cannot keep the fact that we need to risk something to know if we gonna excel on particular field that we are into.
5944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 27, 2016, 04:06:27 PM

I invested a small amount of bitcoin in btclab, and it's been two days and you can withdraw your profit anytime you want too. There's a 3.6% profit daily, and so far, so good  Grin
I do not know the site or the service, but every same person knows that 3.6% profit a day is huge. WAY TO HUGE. So this leaves us with only two conclusions. 1. This is a scam 2. The risks are also huge. I mean like i take all your money and gamble with it. The winning streak does not last long usually.
Stay away from such offers!


yeah, sounds fishy, even me I am not familiar and i dont know the website, be careful with that website seems like scam but then have you tried to earn the 3.6% from that site because if yes you can continue yet just use small amount so that if you will be scammed it will be just small amount Smiley
5945  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where could I buy medicine for Bitcoin? on: December 27, 2016, 04:04:04 PM
Quiet amazed by the topic.even if we say that bitcoin become greatly popular and will be used by most of us (common citizens) then also i would highly recommend that bitcoin shouldn't interfere with diagnosis stuffs.

Exactly, I also said that now in many countries are not use the bitcoin in open market, it is a main reason, we can't buy easily, not talk about the medicine even we can't buy anything. Especially, in my country, i don't see any shop, where i can use bitcoin, but unfortunately, i can't found it. Even many people know about the bitcoin in this time in my country, but instead of it, we can't use it in open market.

Right, it is hard for the open market to adopt bitcoin because it is not that popular to use on yet.
But I always do is, I used bitcoin directed to convert to fiat to the receiver of my money where I am going to use to so the transaction fee will be less than to convert to fiat and send again to the receiver of it.

5946  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin prices could leap to $2000 in 2017? on: December 26, 2016, 03:52:04 PM
Wow! Is Trump really making some difference ? Grin
Anyway, I think that theoretically the price can rise up to $2000 but it is not very likely to happen. I guess when the price will go some repressions by the governments will occur. I mean, some influential countries can all buy some btc and thus start controlling the price is they act together. Or some people will start to panic because of some stuff. Or, they'll just need the money to spend on daily needs and thus the price won't become more than $1100.

Anything is possible. So I think 2000 dollars is possible, but can't say when it will happen. If more people buy bitcoin, it will appreciate in value and there will also be other people such as miners trying to sell bitcoins to cash in their profits. Governments can implement high taxes to discourage people from using bitcoins. We will have to wait and see how things turn out in 2K17.
5947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: December 26, 2016, 04:26:59 AM
Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Altcoin Discussion > Post reply ( Re: Thoughts on Zcash? )

Interesting (and entertaining) article about the ceremony:

The Crazy Security Behind the Birth of Zcash, the Inside Story
http://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/computing/networks/the-crazy-security-behind-the-birth-of-zcash

It is too early. When there is a pump of the ZCash price, this story might help.

I think the price will continue on the down trend for now, nobody is using this coin and the hype surrounding it is dieing gradually and has the token distribution even out the price will then find its equilibrium price in the market

I am having the same thoughts about Zcash. Zcash brings innovation to the table but it still has some work to do. The team has to refine the algorithm and must make sure the wallets are working well with both z and t addresses.
5948  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how can i safe from scamer members.. on: December 26, 2016, 04:12:45 AM
If you want to be safe from being scam then you should be a tough one to decline to the "too good to be true" offers of other people. Be smart and don't fall for their flowery words. If you are making a transaction for a not well known person then escrow is a must for you to be able to make sure or secure being legit of between you and the person that you are dealing with.

That's a good advice. Escrow is must for any transaction in crypto world. And avoid all "too good to be true", "get rich quick" schemes! They are designed to steal money from new people in the crypto world and always take time to read and study about the new developments relating to the crypto world.
5949  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: December 26, 2016, 04:04:09 AM
I would suggest to invest it somewhere. Hire some people and start an online business for something you get in your locality. I did that with my money and it is quiet successful.  Smiley
But usually people here are suggesting to re-start trading after gaining required skills. Because if a trader decided to quit trading due to losses then he must want to recover his losses only from trading. But I like your suggestions. It would be better to get into a complete new business and starting a new life.
should keep trying until we can get the appropriate results. a lot of people who just have a little spirit.
we must have a focus and belief that we can be a trader. it will help any trader to have confidence.

I guess, if you have the same result again and again with failure result, better find another way because your way is not that effective, look for another thing or way where you can excel and earn more, you must not be stagnant on your earning it should be increasing.

If you always get same bad result again and again then you need to change your strategy or the way how you trade different crypto-currencies either it is bitcoin or altcoins. Never give up, Take your failures as a lesson and basis on making decision in the future. Failure is always part of the game.

I have been trading and investing for some years in stock market as well as in Cryptos. I  just got to say that I made more money by investing rather than trading. Trading, at the end of the day has only helped me in burning my money.
5950  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What do you do when BTC shoots up? on: December 26, 2016, 03:52:30 AM
At this moment, I'm selling about 25% amount of my total bitcoin into fiat.
And for other rest, I'm keep holding until next halving, I'm sure the bitcoin value will grow exponentially over time so I can't sell all it out.

Anyway I was so shocked that bitcoin reach highest value on this year

Same here! Bitcoin has the potential to reward it's investors. I become encouraged when I see bitcoins rising in value and I introduce it to other people outside the crypto community. I do this even when the price corrects. Bitcoin is for everyone and the success of bitcoin depends on how much people decides to use it.

5951  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]BlockCDN:A application build on Ethereum smart contract on: December 26, 2016, 03:45:32 AM
Hi guys,

I really wanted this ICO to succeed but the writing was on the wall for me weeks ago when I saw the lack of funding progress.

Just to explain to you why you've failed:

- Simultaneous mining reduced incentives to donate.

- Not publishing a detailed business plan on how much of the funds raised would be reserved for salaries, promotion, development, emergencies etc and when these funds would be used.

- Lack or organised daily promotional campaign to raise awareness several months *before* the crowdfund date.

- Using bitcointalk as a community thread. The quality of 'investors' here is shocking and bitcointalk itself is filled with a lot of junk data, junk talk and suggestions.

- The 3 year limit on token holders earning dividends; nice way to screw your investors over in the long term. From the community chatter I've read outside of bitcointalk this reason alone was the biggest one that stopped people from investing in your crowdfund.

- Lack of daily, active promotion and community engagement in forums where serious ethereum investors hangout e.g.

Ethtrader reddit
Ethereum reddit
Smith and Crown
ICO Countdown
Evan Van Ness Ethereum newsletter


You absolutely should *not* do staged crowdfunds, unless:

- You are willing to present detailed expenditure plans, roadmaps and goals to your community and
- Publish regular confirmations that the goals/roadmap is being reached before acquiring further funding.

I like that you have a public beta. I like that you are targeting a clear market with actual demand and provided a case to undercut and take a segment of that markets profits. I like the fact that you got an ex-barclays boss on board.

That suggests you will find a way to make this work. Unfortunately your horrible promotion at this stage shows me that while you may understand the CDN community, you absolutely do not understand the Ethereum community or blockchain investor community either.

I'd sack whoever was in charge of your marketing and get someone who understands crowdfunding. Try looking and imitating the strategies of Golem, Augur, Digix, Firstblood or any number of ICO's which reached their targets within day 1.

Good analysis! I agree with the lack of marketing and over optimism from the team that made them set a very high target for the ICO. Also the fact that the blockcdn token holders are entitled for dividends only for  3 years seems quite silly, anyone who had sense would realize that the team is planning to take advantage of the investors. A decentralized project should be there to benefit all the stake holders and not just the team.
5952  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving up on Bitcoin... on: December 25, 2016, 06:59:58 AM

Why would you give up the bitcoin, it has a good future is known for a lot and also has proven itself more and more.
I even think that we should believe in it because its becoming bigger and bigger.

Yes, bitcoin has prove itself more and more to us, why OP giving up?
and yes it is now getting bigger and bigger, since we have now almost near to $900..
We must continue to use it so it will increase higher.

5953  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BITSANE.COM Cryptocurrency Exchange Platform Is Now Live on: December 25, 2016, 06:45:48 AM
I registered an account on Bitsane today and from page loading to receiving confirmation email,everything was smooth.Looking forward to use it for trading purpose i hope bitsane keep adding new coins and is it also possible to add ICO on bitsane?I mean I saw on yobit and c-cex this feature,what about adding this on Bitsane also?

i agree you write added to service ico selling
can incraese to client trading in bitsane and incraese volume transaction
another yobit and c-cex, bitrrex open service ico selling too

Yes, If Bitsane announce that they will support all the ICO through their site, this will attract a lot of investors and make the exchange popular like Yobit or c cex in a very short amount of time.  This way ICO can be automatically secured and peope will have more trust in the New coins as well as Bitsane exchange.
5954  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to Earn Ethereum ? on: December 25, 2016, 04:00:45 AM
-mining
-buy
-faucet free
-Invest ethtrade.org
Depend on you
I think buying is not the way to generate eth. Well, the best way to generate eth is by trading. Well, you can get eth in large numbers, the same as when playing bitcoin trading. but it requires eth. so, if you're looking for a free, maybe you can find a faucet on it. Well, my knowledge of eth still very little, but I try to share  Wink

Trading is not recommended to newbies, I think anyone can do signature campaign to earn bitcoin or other altcoins and sell them to buy ETH.
Faucets are just a waste of time. Mining is okay if electricity costs are low and if the user is ready to shell out money to set up a rig.


5955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]Victoriouscoin|Coin Relaunching New Plan |Voting For New Tag On Going on: December 25, 2016, 03:51:58 AM
Just thought I would comment on the voting for new name. Richcoin has been around since 2013. Really think that using Rich coin is not the way to go as it will cause confusion with those who have been around. Yes different tickers but when someone say rich coin there not going to know wtf coin your talking about and loads of wrong buys will happen.

Rich coin (RCH) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=239251.msg2533822#msg2533822

Richcoin (RCX) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1317432.msg13467298#msg13467298 (cant find current op but rcx has been around)

Theres numerous Rich Coins. Adding to the already mounting pile of same name coins will just add a level of confusion that pushes away users. (Trust me)

Thanks for bringing this up,we will take down the poll and get a new tag for replacement
anyone here t has a good idea on what will  be the new tag of Victoriouscoin are welcome to post it

We want a tag related to our existing projects,because this is where the strength of Victoriouscoin will come from.


No offense people. I think the devs need to name this coin in a decent way. Names like "victorious", "project rich" gives a scammy out look. I have bought in some coins and introduced  VTY to my friends and they turned it down siting some of this as on of the many reasons. Can we have a solid path laid out and bring in more websites or products?!
5956  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDice Ethereum Blockchain Gambling || Crowdsale is CLOSED NOW on: December 25, 2016, 03:42:14 AM
That is big opportunity to catch cheap tokens at the moment. This will go to the moon price will boost within week so get chance to make huge profit.

Yes it is. Most ICOs give an opportunity for the investors who missed it to buy at cheaper rates by correcting sometime after launch.
Vdice is no different. This is the best time to buy and sit tight. The price is expected to head to the moon when the devs roll out the
developments as per the road map.



5957  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Litecoin up 25% today! on: December 25, 2016, 03:38:01 AM
Well, is it dead?
I think not.

What about everyone else here?

Litecoin was never dead in the first place. It was some lame users who were trying to spread fear and rumours. I think it is those Chinese users who missed out on bitcoin rally, is now getting into litecoin and pumping it up. Anyways, finally all litecoin holders have something to be happy about!


5958  Economy / Speculation / Re: [Poll] What will Bitcoin be worth on Christmas Day ? on: December 25, 2016, 03:31:08 AM
No need to hope to test $1000 as it simply will not happen. Our biggest concern should be to keep the price above $800 in the coming months.

If that's something that we can achieve, then after that we might be able to focus on reach $1000. Mainly because I have the feeling that things are about to turn any time soon.

It is perfectly possible that we test $1000+, we are seeing a backlash now tho because people get scared when we get close to $1000 , but we will get there. Notice that the last bubble went from 30 to 1200 in a matter of hours, this rise has been going on for months and we started the rally at about 250 dollars, also back in 2013, only MtGox existed. Bitcoin is now way more powerful and is able to absorb all the panic selling idiots quickly.
Personally i think we will see a correction and then the rally will continue. The think is, it may start going up again at 870 and some people expect a lower price and get out of the game to get in.
The majority of the people (inexperienced traders) are just blindly buying at various levels in the hope that the price continues to go up.

If you take that into consideration, then it's pretty easy to come to the conclusion that this can't last much longer as pressure is becoming too heavy to handle.

I am personally thinking in the way that we will test $800 again in the coming weeks. Maybe even this year as the price can sink as easily as it can peak.

I expect bitcoin to test and stay around 900$ levels for some days and break out of 1000$ after New year and once the holiday season is over. I am hoping that there would be no bad news coming out in those period of time.

5959  Economy / Speculation / Re: Holy crap heading past $1,000 !!! on: December 25, 2016, 03:25:44 AM



Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Wow look at those bears getting thrown right out of the inner circle. Sorry bears, it's bull time.

I never expected bitcoin to increase in December as it is a holiday season. But it is quite encouraging to see bitcoin rising in value. Seems like a Christmas and New Year gift to us from bitcoin. Buckle up for another hell of a ride!

5960  Economy / Speculation / Re: $$$ BTC PEAK PRICE IN DEC 2016 on: December 25, 2016, 03:19:50 AM
I thought before that when this we finally broke through $800 resistance that $1000 will be fast possibility. But I can see that this is not possible anymore.
Mainly because we entered Holiday season now, and trading on most western exchanges slowed significantly. Our best hope is to stay over $880 - which seems new resistance point.
We will not reach $1000 this year.
It seemed it acted like an elastic wrist band. It just snapped back to what it was before the huge growth it has in the last 72 hours. A shame really. Undecided
Had such high hopes and then dashed right before our eyes.
Santa saw us as bad this year I guess. Embarrassed

Hey! Don't worry guys, Bitcoin is all set to take off soon. It doesn't matter whether it will cross $1000 this year or next year.
It is almost certain to happen and what you need to do is stay positive and hold on to your bitcoin with patience.
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