I see... i first wanted to check the weekly div. But since 100th pays out div so often i chose 1 day instead but forgot the week from before... |
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Hot news First pieces from our last edition ( production run) with updgraded air cooling works even @ 500 Mhz - 7.7/8 Ghs   Whats the temperature with that? Arent there many hardware errors? Sebastian, The math is sample: 16x500 Mhz =8000Ghs (0%) 8/7.7 makes about 3.8% which is excellent result It is indeed. Im only wondering... i run my bitburner at 450mhz and get 8.8GH for 20 chips miner. But when i go higher in clockrate hw is rising. When i raise voltage it gets even worse. Thats why i wonder what they did. |
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Better use BitcoinX profit calculator... 1 day 55TH = BTC245 245/750000 = 0.00032666666 Strange... i thought the tool was valid... bitcoinX doesnt have other inputs that could explain the difference. At least not now when asics dont use much power cost. Anyway... why the selloff? It looks like everything is crashing. Asicminer, Actimining, labcoin and 100th. While in fact 100th isnt standing very bad. With a shareprice of 0.14btc and the actually paid div it has 100% roi in one year. But people sell for some reason i dont see. |
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Und was können die herausfinden, was wir nicht können?
Das sind auch nur normale User ohne NSA-Zugang...  Aber die wollen sich halt um solche Sachen kümmern und beraten. Eine richtige Polizei sind die natürlich nicht. Allerdings sicher ein guter Anlaufpunkt für solche Sachen. ZB weil die vermutlich auch schon andere solche Fälle hatten, eine größere Gefahr erkennen könnten, andere warnen usw. In wie weit sie jetzt die Adressen auswerten und zB Exchanges zuordnen können weiß ich nicht. Ich erinnere mich auch nicht mehr genau warum ich mal mit denen gesprochen hatte. |
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Since wind mills have a power production of 4 to 7.5MW nowadays that means 2 wind mills alone could run the whole bitcoins network power usage world wide. I think its a good comparision.
Its a good sound bite for now, and certainly an acceptable reality, but this is only because currently the biggest cost is still by far the hardware. Over time that will evaporate and we will be left only with electricty cost. ~3600 BTC/hr * $130/BTC / $0.1 Kw/H = 4680000KW or 4680MW Not sure if your argument will still be as convincing if you have to say bitcoin even in its current infancy at just $130 would require ~1000 large windmills and possibly close to 5x as much with russian electricy prices. When i think about its correct when not taking the asicprice into account... even when the bitcoin reward is halved again and again... the bitcoin exchange price has to rise when bitcoin will be a worldwide currency at one time. That means the reward is again higher then and more power can be bought with it. So only a low bitcoin exchange price could lower the power usage. On the other hand... the price for asics will settle at some point. That will be the newest and fastest asic with the best speed and low power usage. The production cost then will be the biggest limiting factor since all miners plan to get their investment back. I wonder if there is a problem then. |
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I dont understand this security. And picostocks is far from being easy to read and use. So there is a hashrate of 55TH mining? And the shareprice drops 55%? Dividends were yesterday at 0.00039383 BTC per share for 750000 shares each? When i use http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator it tells me 55th should create 1719.09 BTC each day. Thats 0.00229212 BTC per day per share. Thats 17% paid out of potential 100%. What happens? |
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Now where did I see a comparison that said that one major bank central office used probably more electricity than all the bitcoin mining in the world ...
That can't be true, I would be surprised OK lets try a wild estimate I use less than 1KW to do well over 100GH/s So lets go with 1KW for 100GH/s That's a way over-estimate for some of the high hashing devices and a way under-estimate for any of the old devices anyone is silly enough to keep mining with The bitcoin network is ~1PH/s So that's like 10,000KW That seem too high for a big bank's main data centre head office? If it is then say how about 10 of them? Certainly not too high for 10 of them. All guesses, but certainly makes that argument above seem far from certain. Since wind mills have a power production of 4 to 7.5MW nowadays that means 2 wind mills alone could run the whole bitcoins network power usage world wide. I think its a good comparision. |
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Hot news First pieces from our last edition ( production run) with updgraded air cooling works even @ 500 Mhz - 7.7/8 Ghs Whats the temperature with that? Arent there many hardware errors? |
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Hätte 20 Chips abzugeben. Angebote per PM
Träfe sich gut. meta_morph will seine 20 chips jetzt doch behalten und andere, die 60 chips eintauschen wollten haben ihre chips nicht bei burnin, der ja schon zu produzieren angefangen hat (ich könnte eh nur 20 eintauschen) Wie wärs mit 1.634 BTC? Ich würde sie zu francong geben der auch noch 40 von its about sharing bekommt. |
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I can provide escrow. Please send me a pm when you want to use my service. Ill then send you instructions.
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Kontaktiere mal die hier: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_PoliceDas ist zwar keine richtige Polizei aber der Dieb muss ja irgendwann seinen Lohn auch eintauschen um etwas dafür zu bekommen. Vielleicht kann man erkennen wen er bezahlt hat usw usf. Ist zwar nicht erfolgversprechend aber vielleicht einen Versuch wert. Bitcoinüberweisungen sind nicht so anonym wie sich das manche gern vorstellen. Die NSA zB wird ganz sicher keine Probleme haben irgendwelchen Spuren zu folgen und die auch zuzuordnen. Ist auch keine Kunst wenn VPN, Tor usw unwirksam sind und man alle Verbindungsdaten hat. Und im Wiki steht Offizielle Seite der Bitcoin Police ... http://bitcoinpolice.org/Ruf die Seite auf, kommt schnell Ernüchterung auf. nothing here yet 18Byte ist die Seite groß, nur eine Textdatei, nichtmal HTML. Bringt nicht wirklich was. Die sind auch nicht auf der Seite, die sind im IRC-Chat. Keine Ahnung warum die eine leere Seite verlinken. |
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Und wo siehst du jetzt die Gefahr für Bitcoins? Wenn jemand bitcoins kauft und immer mehr kauft dann steigt damit der Preis. Nur seh ich noch nicht so ganz warum man das machen sollte.
Die Gefahr ist die der Kursmanipulation. Die muss noch nicht mal geplant oder gewollt sein. Sich auf Goodwill der Wale zu verlassen halte ich für ziemlich naiv bis blauäugig. Klar, solange es aufwärts geht hab ich da wenig Probleme mit. Aber wenn im Urlaub die Urlaubskasse plötzlich nur noch ein Drittel wert ist weil die Winklevoss Brüder sich nun unbedingt eine Insel kaufen mussten fänden das wohl die wenigsten lustig. Ausser Klaus vielleicht. Aber der will sich ja selbst eine Insel kaufen ... Aber die Gefahr existiert doch genauso in jeder anderen Währung. Es ist nun mal so dass eine Anhäufung von Kapital auch Gefahren birgt. Siehe Bankenkrise. Nur sehe ich da jetzt nicht wirklich den großen Unterschied. Sicherlich könnte jemand viel horten, bitcoins shorten und dann den Preis crashen und gewinnen. Aber Zentralbanken sind da nicht wirklich das Heilmittel. Lies doch mal wie die großen Anleger gegen ganze Staaten spielen und die Zentralbanken ausnehmen. Das funktioniert leider. Bitcoins hat dagegen kein Rezept, allerdings muss es das auch nicht da es andere Vorzüge hat. Bitcoin muss ja nicht gleich alle Probleme lösen können. @Chefin... ich denke bei der Regulierung die gemacht wird geht es nur darum Bitcoin akzeptabel zu machen. Bitcoingeschäfte wollen Sicherheit gegenüber dem Gesetz da niemand etwas davon hat wenn alle vom Nimbus der Anonymität von Bitcoin reden, Politiker Angst bekommen und Bitcoin illegal machen. Eine Währung muss fließen können um Sinn zu machen. |
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I didnt try that service for amazon but i have a high bill from another company i would like to pay with your service. Unfortunately your support is not answering since days. I tried now pm but the user wasnt logged in since days too.
I hope the support is answering soon. And this support should change for sure.
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@Newar... as far as i know our chips are the next. And i didnt offer to sell assembly. I would ship the miners to everyone interested.
@francong & @Its About Sharing
In german thread someone will get a refund for 20 chips. If you francong can pay Its About Sharing for 40 and the other member meta_morph for 20 chips you would have exactly 60 chips again. I wouldnt need to be involved except telling burnin that the list i gave him changed. (Such game probably cant be played often)
Sebastian and francong - I still haven't gotten a reply from froncong. I don't know if he is backing out of the deal as I haven't gotten a reply all day. I'll give it some time but I'd like to know francong's plans. If not francong please let me know as I'd like to find a board to put my chips in (hopefully Alex above (still)) and use Sebastian as the Escrow with BTC. Thanks, IAS I sent you three a pm. Francong will send me the btc and i can send it to you, then take the chips from you 2 in exchange. Ok. The chips are already at Burnins though, right? Thanks for your help and availability. Without you, this would be a total mess. Thanks a ton, IAS Yes, your and meta_morphs chips are at burnin already. I would notice burnin that your chips are moved to francong. |
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@Newar... as far as i know our chips are the next. And i didnt offer to sell assembly. I would ship the miners to everyone interested.
@francong & @Its About Sharing
In german thread someone will get a refund for 20 chips. If you francong can pay Its About Sharing for 40 and the other member meta_morph for 20 chips you would have exactly 60 chips again. I wouldnt need to be involved except telling burnin that the list i gave him changed. (Such game probably cant be played often)
Sebastian and francong - I still haven't gotten a reply from froncong. I don't know if he is backing out of the deal as I haven't gotten a reply all day. I'll give it some time but I'd like to know francong's plans. If not francong please let me know as I'd like to find a board to put my chips in (hopefully Alex above (still)) and use Sebastian as the Escrow with BTC. Thanks, IAS I sent you three a pm. Francong will send me the btc and i can send it to you, then take the chips from you 2 in exchange. |
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* Regulations are done in usa and germany without problems since bitcoin companies want legal safety
* pirateat40 could be found and his bitcoins traced down
* Bitcoins are not anonymous for example for the NSA. They most probably know who even who satoshi is, Tor and all VPN of companies that have a connection to the USA are useless so it should be childs play with all the data they have to find out what happens in bitcoin network and with the IP's and all they dont have problems to find who owns what.
* germany, who is the biggest friend of nsa (snowden says) legalized bitcoins practically
So i think the secret services love bitcoins.
If the governments worldwide decide to block bitcoins then it will be practically dead of course. A currency that only can be used hidden is of not much use.
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@Newar... as far as i know our chips are the next. And i didnt offer to sell assembly. I would ship the miners to everyone interested.
Thanks for the info. I was more thinking if francong could not get chips and would be stranded with a 3 board order. It all seems to work out, though, that's good. I already got 2 more offers for 60 chips from members that want a refund for 60. |
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Will noch jemand 60 chips refunden? Ich habe wohl doch noch einen Fehler gemacht und 60 chips erstattet die derjenige eigentlich behalten wollte.
gehen auch nur 20? falls noch jemand die restlichen komplettieren kann, kannst ja auch denjenigen fragen ob er mit mir kontakt aufnehmen möchte, falls er Interesse hat. Gruß Ist eine gute Idee da im englischen Thread jemand 40 chips anbietet. Wären zusammen 60 chips, also das was er bräuchte... ich schreib allen möglichen Beteiligten mal eine pm. |
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