Game 1:  46' 3-1 Arsenal
Game 2:  46' 0-3 Liverpool

Napoli - Lazio
1. Match line - Away
2. Both to score - Yes
3. Number of corners - 9-11

Real - Sevilla
1. Match line - Away
2. Both to score - Yes
3. Number of corners - 9-11

8' minute

Amazing specials on Black Friday, hope to see many many more throughout the day! Meanwhile, I almost busted on Roulette... as  even doubled down when it hit zero, going for martingale on RED... and this is how I usually end up wasting my money when I already did 5mbtc wager.

Even after waiting for a 3/4 streak and martingaling, you can die very fast without limits. Of course, anyone hitting 20-24 that whole round would be walking away with loads... gambling huh!



Didn't you also remind me you can bet instantly with a pending deposit?

This is me and how I think. It's nice to win bets, and of course it doesn't matter how the game/match plays out if the outcome suits you when you count your winnings, but especially for fighting sports (which I used to bet on a lot in real life, muay Thai arenas in Bangkok evenings are pretty awesome) you're much happier when you lose but you got to see total warfare all night long.

@rdbase: save your money and sleep indeed. Though that applies to us and not you ha!

toma man, I didn't realise you'd stopped playing! I actually still play as much as I can catch them, but with adjusted bets now (no longer max betting on every game heh). I did catch Liverpool and Chelsea wins (2 of the last 3) on max bets, so yeah, still enjoying this one tremendously.

You definitely need to pay more attention too, although both of last night's games were outliers... for example, Monaco and R Sociedad don't typically give out a lot of corners, but last night were generous with cards. So even with statistics, it's quite hard to pick winners (and losers). Kind of makes this Blackjack thing really fun!

And I missed out on BOTH too. What makes it worse is that I actually put money down on Talinn two or three times already and then decided to skip them when they actually did win. Would easily have been above 10/1 for either one, but there you go, I need to be more disciplined to trust my instincts more and more now.

Spurs need a big win, and it's against the strongest team in the group. But maybe they actually do better against a team that tries to attack, who knows?

Woohoo thanks Steve! Black Friday is here and it's already started way early guys!

Guys don't forget Gazza is on today from 2pm GMT, you can follow this direct link for Clubhouse Radio. But it's also streamed live on YouTube so go see this for yourself. This should be special regardless of whether you bet or not, Gazza is a legend, even I heard of him without ever seeing his face before the days of internet =)

All deets on this Behind the Bet link.

Liverpool have to give away one corner, what a gift this is!

Yes, but as you see in my entire thread, I never count my stake back as profit. So anything I end up putting my freebet on the next day gets counted in the tally (if I lose the freebet, I deduct the points on following day, if I win, the stake is never counted in the profit). Profit and loss here on my thread is all net =)

Not to mention I never do anything less than 2/1 haha, and with freebets especially, you want to put it on acca in case of void (where you lose the bet if it's a single).

But I believe you man, I avoided Spurs like the plague, but I thought Conte would at least get them a draw so didn't do Mura shame on me.

I'm about to get Gent'ed by Gent though, 3 legs done on today's 5-leg acca and Gent down by a goal ha ha ha...

Spurs have done it again! After losing to Vitesse, now they have lost to the mighty Mura, the club Google doesn't even have a club crest for. Yes they played with 10 men, but even Kane scoring while not playing in the Premier League couldn't get them out of trouble.

2nd in the group, but beaten by the two weakest teams there. They really don't want to win this league, do they?

Nightmares yet, Conte?

No. If I do 200 units then the advantage is multiplied by two, you can search back posts where I put bets like these, and the advantage is doubled, but you're right I actually didn't multiply the Juventus unit advantage, I guess I could edit but I usually only edit back when I miscalculated profit/loss as that's pretty crucial heh. And the units advantage is probably not as important.

Also, the losing bet is deducted only on the next day, so you'll see 200 units deducted on today's pick, from last night's loss. The Juventus loss (also 200 units) was deducted from yesterday's post. This way I don't edit my old posts unnecessary =)


I have put specials in here in the past, you just have to look them up. Specials from Stake, Fortunejack and Sportsbet get coverage here for sure because of value, but I tend to put the ones I'd pick as a normal bet anyway.

The 5-leg free insurance boost gets featured a lot, as it did today, since the value alone from price often beats everyone else, and then you get free insurance. When I've won insurance on these, I simply count it as a loss but don't deduct anything from the next day's balance (As you get stake back as freebet).

Yeah, still clicking my mind about whether to go on this one as a simple away win. 6/1 is nice but the Polish outfit doesn't get so adventurous away from home and a draw would be a minor victory for them, on the other hand, they won't find the Foxes as weak as they are now.

Been backing Vardy to score and he needs to break his rut, so the only value here is for a home win + Vardy to score any time.

The "easier" 25/10 though is Monaco ML. They have let me down plenty though.

One of the first money things I learnt about in school actually. Now I'm just putting it as I remember, and how the basics went, but we had in our country a period where the Japanese occupied and printed their own local money. But they kept printing more and more of it to give out to locals and try to quickly establish a new cash economy (they had to displace at least 2 systems that pre-existed).

Goods soared in price, and the scenes we're seeing now in some parts of Africa, the Middle East, and South America, where people are buying food with wheelbarrows of money, that's what my grandparents said happen.

And those businesses and people who bet on the Japanese staying for good, well, they lost a lot, while actually holding a lot of cash, when hyperinflation hit the roof. Those who preferred to hang on to old currency, or gold, waited out the occupation and made it out alive. It does make me wonder now what happened to stocks

Anyway, they were so numerous you can still buy these notes in mint condition in tourist shops and flea markets. We call them banana money (as they printed bananas on the notes haha). They were used in basic school to teach us about inflation.

That said, there are countries still betting on the dollar... and with euroskeptics getting stronger and the global south scattering their fortunes and still opting for dollarisation, I doubt anything catastrophic happens to the dollar in our lifetimes.

At least the BBC is slightly less specific in their reporting (this is not a compliment), and makes for an easier, if rather vague read and makes references to "most private cryptocurrencies" rather than a blanket ban on "crypto". Far as I understand, no government sees Bitcoin as a private currency.

Anyway, China banned crypto and we got an ATH. Why the worry?

Wasn't watching but yeah, they've also been absolutely dominating in Eredivisie (thanks also in part to some good steals from their closest rivals)  but nice that you picked them as the dark horse. That's my "thing" most seasons, to pick one in a competition and back them all the way for high-value bets but I actually only do that in Europa.

The good thing about Ajax is they know what they are, which is a factory for the rest of Europe. So they always build with short-term ideas, knowing they can't hold on to their stars. So it's a permanent flux, and they're used to it.

Of course it also helps they do have a pretty good coach... whom I hope doesn't cross the channel to go Manchester...

Right, no luck with PSG either, and to be fair, they weren't doing much and got outplayed by City. Deserved to lose.

Been a while since I put a multi but I'm going to do a bit of a switcheroo and pick 5 favourites to sit back for a nice boost and insurance, which you get daily at Sportsbet. Europa and Conference maybe can gift us a lifeline?

100 units boosted, insured, at Sportsbet on Lazio, West Ham, Basel, Gent and Colorado Rapids to WIN @16.00. Other odds: 15.43
Units advantage: 57
Bet ID: 619f2bf0d1d9a793f19c30bc

Running advantage after 81 bets: +9580 (+57)
All-time cumulative: +76,948
Running units after 80 bets (11W|69L): +3521 (-200)


No problem and thanks for your question! I do a base bet of 100 units (but on occasion, like the past two nights, 200 or sometimes I go even 500). So using my odds system, to 2 decimals, if you place 100 units on today's pick, you win 1600. If you'd placed it elsewhere ("other odds" is the next best I can find), you'd get only 1543 if you win.

Since this thread is all about value and choosing the book with the best one, the advantage here in units is +57

That's all there is to is =)

Just came across this item of news this early morning. Missed it somehow as was watching Liverpool plus listening to a slew of other matches on radio, but in the late minutes of the Atletico-Milan match, something magical happened and the group is now as wide open as it's ever been for the final qualification spot, with everything to decide on final match day. We've progressed a game ago of course, but Simeone will be seething at 3 consecutive losses.

But the scorer of Milan's winner, Junior Messias, has a back story, climbing all the way up from Italy's 5th division to now his debut at 30, only his 3rd appearance for the club, and on his very first game at Champions League and on his very first attempt on goal.

Used to be a fridge delivery guy too!

This is why I love football!

Whoops almost forgot my bet, we lost last night but another double sounds good for me and this time on PSG to maintain their grip on the group, against City. Hey we did it once already no?

Game starts in 5 mins!

200 units on PSG to WIN against City @6.51. Other odds: 5.90
Units advantage: 61
Bet ID: 619e7d6a6247094079c03cc3

Who else is bored stiff by Inter?


Same. Love the goals he brings to CL but I haven't had my fill of United misery, and the fact every English team now (City yet to qualify but they'll do it I mean, Brugge and Leipzig...) is through to Last 16 makes me a bit annoyed as I feel it's a big waste if they meet in KO.

It does feel a bit shitty that United played their worst football and are still through, thanks to individual brilliance. Still, was good seeing Sancho finally play. It's never nice to see talent rotting on the bench.


Definitely for fun! I last played amateur competition almost 10 years ago, and then on futsal 8 years ago (damn).

Where I am now yeah, there are amateur clubs for indoor football and I've signed up for the 2 closest to me, others are over 30 mins away and if I travel in late evenings I might spend even 45 mins one way travel, which including game time would mean I'm away for long enough for my SO to murder me. I enter myself in the "worst" category, which is probably accurate of my ability anyway, and supposedly when a space is available they pick the next one on waiting list, but I have been here almost 2 years now and checking back they keep saying everything is full.

I might do what you say, and just show up a lot until someone takes pity on me. It seems quite strict there though, once you're in a team you HAVE to show up every week, if you don't show up 3 times without good excuse you're out. But that's very good advice, I think I will make friends with beers and see if they'll bestow on me a slot or two =D

Sorry for off-topic guys!

I'm staying out of this betting until closer to Dec 12. Taking a break and holding on to winnings until Football grinds me down again. Oliviera's my type of fighter though. Quiet, as he says, (they say too quiet?) so lacking on the drama but not on the ring action. Sort of jaded with all the pre-fight hype, if you ask me. And 23/10 odds means he's probably my pick if he makes it on my betslip come the time.

Shame we have to wait so long!

Yeah, that was super. All were actively on chat too during the Chelsea-Juventus match Club Radio session, when they decided to do the drop, but 7 actually didn't claim, so it certainly pays to be active and watching.

I imagine I might have had a drop, but a nice consolation for the morning that the very same match hit our Soccer Blackjack (hope you guys snagged that one too, it was quite a wait for this!).

I'm definitely going to try stay up late for tonight, see you guys there. I see a number of names I know, very cool.