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5981  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez on: September 04, 2016, 06:02:59 PM
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Je, a tajw u poreznojw ga bude pitao a taj Bitcoin je što točno? Nemojmo se zavaravati da su educirani o tome i da su čuli za  Bitcoin, a kamoliw da znaju dati upute što s njim, tj.s novcem vezanim za Bitcoin.
Na žalost, ovo je istina.
Ja sam prije par godina pokušao objasniti u poreznoj svoju internet zaradu tada, ne bitcoin, i gledali su me blijedo, kao da sam pao s marsa Smiley
U biti, ispalo je da uopće nemaju posebnu kategoriju za Internet zaradu i šifru za to u sustavu jer eto, porezna a i država, nemaju pojma da tamo neki čudaci nešto rade na Internetu i čak zarađuju neke ozbiljne pare, pa nisi uopće ni predvidjeli stavku Internet zarade u svojim poreznim propisima.
Na kraju smo se ''dogovorili'' da internet zaradu prijavim kao ''drugi dohodak'' iz inozemstva i to kao da sam ''slobodni umjetnik'' hehe.
Pa i može se reći da sam ''Internetski umjetnik''.
Uglavnom, tako to u zadnjih par godina ide, i za sada nema problema, vuk sit a ovce na broju Smiley

Ne znači da je svako budala tamo i da niko ne zna šta je bitcoin Wink, blockchain nije anoniman, mislite da van naknadno nemogu zatražit porez Smiley i to na balkanu Smiley? Evropska zajednica je vec odavno donijela odluke o tome šta je bitcoin (ali i to ce se redefinisat), Hrvatska je u EU i nevjerujem da će se tu nešto drugačije tretirat, sad za sad, nema problema, samo Hrvatska pripada više konzervativnim državama sa svojim stavom, ne na liberalne, tako da je sve moguće. Inace kupite zemljište i preselite se u ničju zemlju Smiley, tamo nema poreza

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Otkud ti to da je EU već davno definirala Bitcoin? Da je tako to bi vrlo vjerojatno bilo i u obliku neke direktive koju bi trebala implementirati i RH. Ali tome nije tako. Niti EU nema jedinstvenog zakonodavstva niti definicije Bitcoina i to je problem. Radi se na tome da se to proba uskladiti, ali to još uvijek nije gotova priča. I što si točno htio reći s tim da blockchain nije anoniman?
5982  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: September 04, 2016, 08:11:55 AM
The problem is that Bitcoin is not so available to the poor countries. To expect some substantial help this have to be a project on a larger scale supported by governement and community but that is not very likely.
5983  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or a gold bar with the same value? on: September 04, 2016, 08:07:56 AM
Well, I love Bitcoins very much but if I have to choose I will take gold. It's still more solid and reliable so the chances for loss are lower.
5984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you be interested in a bitcointalk lottery? on: September 03, 2016, 10:12:25 PM
Why not? Probably it would be worth trying and also could be fun. But how it would be organized and who will monitor that everything is according to the rules? How could we know that it wasn't set up? This idea needs to be more detailed.
5985  Other / Off-topic / Re: What can i do with 3 Bitcoin? on: September 03, 2016, 10:03:46 PM
I would beg to say you could double them if you know how to gamble ...
but if not then best to just hold on to them and wait for the price increase in the coming months.
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By gambling maybe he could double them, if he's lucky enough but he could also easy lose it all. So, my suggestion is to split the amount, invest the part, spend the partq for somerthing nice andq the rest just hold. You will need it in the future, that's for sure.
5986  Economy / Digital goods / Re: what is the price of JR. Member and Member account ? on: September 02, 2016, 06:33:16 PM
Try to use bitcointalk account estimator, it will tell you how much is the value for any particular account because value may vary according to many factors.
5987  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitkonan on: September 02, 2016, 06:28:05 PM
Daniel91 i još neki su si stvarno dali truda i sve lijepo objasnili, kako i zašto jesu ili nisu platili porez. I mislim da je sad svima jasno. Ajmo sad zaključiti da se u RH ne plaća porez na Bitcoin kao takav. Bitcoin kao valuta, roba ili nešto treće u RH nije definiran niti jednim zakonom. Točka.
Samo ako dodas da u momentu kada zamenis taj Bitcoin u valutu da si obavezan platit porez.
Nisi dužan tamo gdje je definiran kao valuta.

Duzan si (ili nisi) tamo gdje ti je prebivaliste. U RH jesi (cim pretvoris BTC u valutu)...


Da skratimo ovu sapunicu.
Bitcoin kao valuta, novac ili financijska imovina nije priznat u Hrvatskoj.
To znači da se ne može prijaviti u poreznu i ne može platiti porez.
Tek kada i ako se odlučite da bitcoin pretvorite u kune, dolare, eure... i to prebacite na bankovni račun u Hrvatskoj (dakle oba uvjeta moraju biti zadovoljena) dužni ste to prijaviti poreznoj kao svoj drugi dohodak iz inozemstva, i to putem joopd obrasca te uplatiti predporez i prirez (ako ga vaš grad/mjesto ima).
Godišnji obračun poreza od ove godine ne radite vi već porezna i preplaćeni iznos poreza (kolokvijalno povrat poreza) isplaćuje vam se iduće godine direktno na bankovni račun.
Nadam se da je sad konačno sve jasno Smiley
p.s. Seljo, na tvoje provokacije više ne odgovaram.


Potpisujem ovo pojašnjenje. Jasnije ne može biti.
Btw. ekipa iz Bitkonana sigurno prati ovu temu, a kad ono niti riječi o njima. Sorry, ljudi za oftopičarenje.  Smiley
5988  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Worldwide! on: September 02, 2016, 06:24:11 PM
At my opinion in 5 years many big countries like USA or Europe union will accept bitcoin as legal currency, i know that bitcoin is still very young currency but anyway it's promising.

You mean that in USA and Europe Bitcoin will be equivalent to fiat currencies? Maybe, but 5 years is probably not enough time because banks are still very strongly against the BItcoin. Many rules and laws should be in place before something like this happens.
5989  Economy / Services / Re: ★★ Autopilot Bitcoin - Make 10$-150$ BTC per day ★★ on: September 02, 2016, 04:34:53 PM
Another offer that sounds too good to be true? Is this just my feeling or recently this forum is filled with offers how to get rich in a day, how to earn 1 BTC or 1000 $ in a day... Please, stop this bad campaigns if you don't have something honest to offer.
5990  Economy / Services / Re: Turbo coaching - how to make 1BTC a day! on: September 02, 2016, 04:30:45 PM
What silly ideas people have! Nice try, but I hope no one will fall for this.
5991  Economy / Services / Re: Need an article writer on: September 02, 2016, 04:29:12 PM
4 bucks for 500 words? Sorry, but this is underestimated. If you want to get some person who will get this job done properly you have to value the work and effort this person will put in this, so please offer some more money.
5992  Economy / Economics / Re: Selling Lemonade for Bitcoins? on: September 02, 2016, 04:21:31 PM
Confirmation could be a problem, because of waiting, but I see some businesses have already accepted Bitcoin payment (some bakery in my hometown did) so there must be a way to solve this otherwise they would have given up by now. Maybe to do some inquieries about that. Anyway, don't give up, it's worth trying.
5993  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why do people use so many Bitcoin wallets? on: September 02, 2016, 04:14:42 PM
This was my question to my friend before because everytime I will send him some bitcoin I noticed different addresses.  It is because there are bitcoin wallet thay will deactivate your account if they find suspicious things on your every transaction.  Especially if you are into gambling, they will not allow that transaction. 

Or maybe your friend had a wallet that generates a new address everytime a transaction is done, just like Xapo.
In Xapo your wallet address get changed everytime you get a new transaction, though you will still receive your bitcoins if they are sent to an old address among them.

Xapo and some other wallets have this feature. This is good from security perspective, although it could be annoying for persons who are constantly sending coins to the same person but always on different address. And some people like to generate multiple addresses in the same wallet, like blockchain, so each could be for different purpose, especialy if you have some bussines, or signature campaign or something else, so you can monitor separate funds on each address.
5994  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Lending Platform - Alternatives to Loanbase, Bitbond, Jam & BtcPop on: August 31, 2016, 06:20:44 PM
I Found & Test :

5) Wayniloans - https://www.wayniloans.com/

And here my experience, as borrower:

5) Wayniloans This is a Spanish platform. I just signed up and linked my social. Now i'm waiting for ID verification (i provide my ID card, Proof of residence and phone) & my Proof of income, that is required before apply for loan. This platform assign a rating based upon Doc provided and Credit history on platform. This kind of credit score is really safe for investors, so if you are want to try, you could put there some satoshi.

Is this for spanish people (or spanish speaking people) only or everyone can apply?
 


5995  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Nebeus service on: August 31, 2016, 06:18:44 PM
So, another suspicious so called lending platform, similar like Cryptoborrow. The time will tell are this and similar platforms just bad organized and not wirking properly services or their intention is to scam people.
5996  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you use a Bitcoin debit card? on: August 31, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
I'm also using Xapo, almost a year now and I'm very satsified. I can use my Bitcoin everywhere, in any store online or "real" one. Never had any bad experience. I think fees are decent and the customer support is good so I would recommend this card.
5997  Economy / Services / Re: Make $500 to $10000 per month from Google adsense on: August 31, 2016, 02:02:39 PM
If it was possible to earn 10000 a month from Google adsense in that way I would give up my regular job and do only this. But eveyone with common sense knows this is just a bad attempt to attract people and scam them.
5998  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: What's the heck with YoBit signature campaign ?! on: August 31, 2016, 01:58:04 PM
I also experienced to be removed from Yobit campaign. Don't know the exact reason, but I saw this happened to many members on this forum who were participating in this campaign. It's pretty popular and somehow it seems that from time to time they are making room for new members.
5999  Economy / Service Discussion / Nebeus service on: August 31, 2016, 01:46:33 PM
Recently I have found this web page, they are claiming to lend Bitcoins. Does anyone has heard of it or maybe has some experience? I don't know if they can be trusted.

https://nebeus.com/
6000  Economy / Services / Re: ♠ Betcoin.ag ♠ Signature Campaign - High Pay - Monthly Payments - Bonuses ♠ on: August 30, 2016, 07:14:33 PM
Hi! I'd like to join the campaign. At the moment I'm engaged in secondstrade campaign but I'd like to take my chances here, so please let me know.
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