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5981  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen if Tech Giants get into Bitcoin or Altcoin Mining? on: December 17, 2016, 06:29:11 AM
What will happen if Tech Giants Like Google, Microsoft, Amazon starts investing in Bitcoin or Altcoin Mining?

Good Question. Looking at the difficulty of bitcoin mining, I feel some giants must have already joined the raise, they must be keeping the entire thing hidden from the public, I will not be surprised if any tech giants admit it in the coming days. I have heard of rich people just mining and dumping bitcoin simply to make quick bucks.
5982  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving up on Bitcoin... on: December 17, 2016, 06:27:20 AM

I am not the only one, lots of people have already given up.  Very fucking stupid mismanagement is the result.  At least TCP-IP and Linux had some means to make sensible adjustments in the early days.  Bitcoin has no means to fix things that need a fixin'.  "Consensus" is just a very stupid concept.  95% consensus will never be reached for any issue.  Bitcoin is fucked.  Doesn't scale.  Everyone already left.
Nobody cares for your FUD. There are many crypto currencies if Bitcoin is not developed according to you than you can find the coin which meets your requirements there are thousands of Crypto currencies but all those do not stand near to the Bitcoin.

If people have given up on bitcoin, then why is it still at $12,533,652,161 market cap?
Why is the mining difficulty at all time highs and still rising every week?
I agree there are challenges but bitcoin has the strength to overcome it with time.

5983  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 17, 2016, 06:22:03 AM
If you mean by earning, I don't think there are any that pay enough for the time that you spend doing whatever it is that you do.
Best way to GET bitcoin is to just buy it cause it is below $765 now.
I think everyone must have a method they prefer. and everyone has different skills, maybe you can make profits by trading bitcoin, because you're skilled at it. what if I do not have trading skill, what should I do?

If you feel that you aren't skilled enough then, you should be looking to invest money monthly or weekly into bitcoins and hold them for a longer period of time. You look to invest into Altcoins backed by good developers and community such as ICONOMI.
Do some research and make the call.
5984  Economy / Economics / Re: The $1 Million Dollar Bitcoin on: December 17, 2016, 06:19:40 AM
100 percent  no. Bitcoin will never ever  reach that super high price.,  even the demand on bitcoin is too high ,still it cannot make the price  of.bitcoin go $1 moliion dollars.
well same here that it is impossible that it will happen.. the possible that i think the maximum price that we can see in bitcoin in the future.. 4k to 8k value each.. this is what i thought in the future.. and i hope that it can be change and much more will come with bitcoin..

1 million dollars = 1 bitcoin. That's an Insane value. I don't think it will happen and I wonder when it will happen that is if it happens by any chance. Bitcoin can reward loyal investors but 1 million USD per bitcoin is too much for the time being.

Never say never. Anything is possible. 1 million dollar for every bitcoin is big today but in future things can change very quickly. Remember when 1$ per bitcoin was considered too much? So hold on to bitcoins as close as possible and keep collecting them.
5985  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Newbie on: December 17, 2016, 06:14:04 AM
Learning trading need patience and time, first gain some knowledge from book or internet, then look for some clue why people trade in the particular coin, and keep on update your news, then start to trade with smlall amount, it is faster to learn by experience, for beginner i suggest to open an account in yobit because the site has so many alt coin to trade

Yeah, you need to have patience and be willing to put in efforts to study various strategies and technical indicators such as RSI, MACD, Bolinger bands and the basic support and resistance levels. I think any exchanges with good volumes are good to trade.
5986  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [START] StartCOIN 2.0 - The digital currency for crowdfunding on: December 17, 2016, 06:06:22 AM
You guys are killing the price just by talking so much bullshit. He's not dumping premine on the market, no one is trying to scam you, START is close to being integrated into the platform, and you're all just a bunch of crybabies, trolls, and FUDers. The only scam here is people telling noobs this nonsense about scams and causing them to sell at a loss. THAT is the scam. You should be ashamed... but of course you're not and will come back at me with a bunch more bullshit I don't even have the patience to respond to anymore. When things progress none of you will even admit you were wrong.

Crypto traders are vultures and scum. I feel sorry for anyone trying to start a legit business with you people involved.

The entire altcoin market is in the dumps. Holding my START like a pro. Saddens me that some of you will still profit with all your lying, innuendo, and whining. You don't deserve it.



It's each man for himself. Traders and investors will have to take time and efforts to educate themselves of the projects or Alt coins they are investing into rather than reading the trolls and falling for the FUDs in various forums.
5987  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: December 17, 2016, 06:03:50 AM
Bitcoin is really worth to me because it has changed my life to a great extend.i can earn bitcoins weekly and buy all the necessary items by selling the bitcoins monthly .i can buy the things that i wanted it for a very long time .kudoos Smiley
Not only in selling items but you can also earn bitcoin by joining in some signature campaign and make sure that your posts are high quality since a lot of managers here is hate spam and low quality posts, the highest rank here is the most well paid.

You have the option to earn bitcoin in many ways such as trading, investing, selling your skills or products, gambling, etc.
I wouldn't suggest gambling and trading as they are very risky and can ruin your life. But signature campaign and investing
is safe to do.

5988  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Zcash 10$ +/- on: December 17, 2016, 05:58:20 AM
Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Speculation (Altcoins) > Post reply ( Re: Zcash 10$ +/- )

everybody tell about price near 10$ but now everything is fine. after downtrend zec went up. and dont forget that now it is a btc bullrun.

It is possible that the ZEC has already reached the bottom. So it might hover around the current level for some time.
Its just a fake out for me when i saw on the recent price of ZEC just like what happen when it was just 0.2 before, it raises up a little bit and some people already said that time this is the beginning price increase of zec but those hope do fail because it really even dumped even more and now the lowest price is 0.02 and not starting to cling up but i still dont believe on this coin.
what will tell now? from 0.08 to 0.014 in one day. looks like good.

The question is that if the rate can be sustained.

The price lower today.

Expect Zcash to correct in the coming months as more coins will be hitting the market and the core team still hasn't yet figured out on how to make those z address work in the windows wallet. So correction is the only thing I see going ahead. Pumps make happen to suck in new traders only to crash again.
5989  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2016, 05:45:42 PM
I should have bought the dip.... So much missed $$$$. So much regret  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
Ahh, the life of a trader is hard. (unless you hit it big and retire)

Just don't trade bitcoin right now. The best thing to do is to go long or take a long positional buy call and see for yourself how bitcoin price is going to break all the key resistance levels in 2017.

Everything is set for a massive bitcoin price surge.
5990  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 16, 2016, 05:41:16 PM
It does look like i would have to spend more than 200 USD to buy 1K of ICN, I'm so far lucky to have 4k still in my account. If that $3 happens, i still can profit a bit but it would be best to receive dividends still.

don't count on too much dividends for 4K ICN

Yeah, don't expect more than you would expect from any other $800 investment.

Try to invest slowly into ICN tokens as from January or February 2017 we can expect to see a sharp appreciation in the price.
The platforms are expected be launched and dividend payment to be started by that time. So this is the best time to add.
5991  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to determine the price of a product in bitcoin on: December 16, 2016, 05:36:49 PM
We all know that bitcoins price changes quickly because of its demand So if some online shop sells products and pricing it in bitcoin,
How can we price it ? Should the price change also like btc?

How about pricing it in dollars or in native currency and then at the point of paying the bill, accept to take payment in bitcoin at the rate of Bitcoin/USD at that very moment. There are facilities which the business can use to immediately convert the bitcoin back to dollars or native currencies.
5992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zdash Private Secure Transactions [bounties][Launched] on: December 16, 2016, 05:29:09 PM
It needs at least 2 years to make one coin valuable.

The royal holders and money flow and development..


It needs time


From wan.

Absolutely! Time is required to build a coin and it's community. Zdash can make it big with constant improvements and developments.
Community will grow over time when they see developments being made and when the devs are committed.
Bitcoin is the best example for this.
5993  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Clif High says Bitcoin is the future on: December 16, 2016, 05:25:29 PM
to me, bitcoin will be used for a long time, but never will be the future of financial world. blockchain will be used, bitcoin will probably die eventually.
PS:, die eventually doest mean tomorrow... imo bitcoin will raise a lot before that.

I beg to disagree with your view on bitcoin. Bitcoin will be there for a long time till it has the support of the community. We can see the code getting some serious upgrade in the future to resist quantum computers and to solve the issue relating to scaling.
5994  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does a President Trump mean for Bitcoin? on: December 14, 2016, 01:19:19 PM
I like you question, also i have same thinking.
And in my point of view, i think President of USA, Trump will be like bitcoin, because he is already big big businessman. Also i don't think that any good businessman don't invest in bitcoin even he know that.     
5995  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin had a stable price, would it still be as popular? on: December 14, 2016, 01:12:48 PM
Certainly not to be interesting or popular, people will not buying and saving for the long term, this is the same as with other commodities. The interesting thing about bitcoin is unstable price.

Yeah, definitely, bitcoin is bitcoin, because of it has no stable price, and everyone is use bitcoin, including me, because its price has valuable, and when it increased, So its mean bitcoin give us profit. 
For example, bitcoin has stable price, So tell me, who use it? because than bitcoin has no attraction. I think it is clear, Bitcoin has attraction on its price.
5996  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Will Kill The Income Tax on: December 14, 2016, 01:00:33 PM
We can say that but still people are prefer and using the fiat currency and also use the bank system, and majority of the people are here who don't know about bitcoin. Even many countries are not allow the bitcoin in government level. So may be in future, when bitcoin would be used in all over the world than might be possible bitcoin kill the income tax.
5997  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 14, 2016, 12:54:06 PM
Trading will be the best income source for bitcoin there are other option but i don't considered you to use it HYIP is the most dangerous way to grow our bitcoin if you are just using the affliate program then you can earn profit at least 10% of initial deposit. Also investment in ico's is good but does not mean you are going to invest it's always up to you if you really want too.

I am agree with you, But now it is time to hold the bitcoin, it is best source of income. Because when we see now everyday bitcoin is going up, So definitely we should choose only hold the bitcoin.
Secondly, when we gain profit from bitcoin's price, than choose the long time investment, as you said ICO is better, i also think that it is best investment wise.
5998  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin be used for Good? on: December 14, 2016, 12:48:13 PM
Of course bitcoin can be used for good, because bitcoin as a technology is simply nothing less than a revolution, and when people actually realise the potential of this technology, sooner or later, they will switch to bitcoin and ditch fiat.

Fiat is an endless hole, if you save your money in fiat, then you can expect to never see it again.

Exactly, bitcoin is really a new technology, and we should use it in our daily life. Because bitcoin give us all facilities to buy from it. So why not we use it, also i started to use the bitcoin when i need to transfer my amount into an other account, So choose bitcoin, and forever i will choose it.
5999  Economy / Economics / Re: How many BTC will make you a fiat millionaire in 5 years? on: December 14, 2016, 12:42:27 PM
Definitely, we need more than 1000 bitcoins, than may be bitcoin make millionaire, But only when, bitcoin continuously rise up, because it is no guarantee that bitcoin will always go up, may be during the 5 years, bitcoin suddenly down. So our millionaire would be dream. So i think better is that only hold the bitcoin with no time limit.
6000  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How did you first hear about bitcoin? on: December 14, 2016, 12:21:06 PM
I heard first time about bitcoin, by chance i read a name of crypto currency Bitcoin, than i didn't know about it. So i thought, may be bitcoin will be a different thing than i searched about it , and also i saw the video in YouTube, than i started to work with it, So now i came in that place of Bitcoin Forum. But i came here because i want information about bitcoin, because majority of my friends don't know about bitcoin.
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