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5981  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: My Speculation Thread (Charts and Analysis Included ;)) on: December 18, 2016, 03:40:06 AM
ETC seems to be a bull trap. The hype on both ETH and ETC are gone and some whales have already cashed out on ETH. It would be pointless to buy ETH at such high
price when the ETH hype is over. I would prefer to wait until ETC touches 10k satoshi before I would consider buying.

The whole pump was based on the news/rumors that ETC will look to cap the total supply of the coins in 2017. This will make it limited in supply and they are trying to roll out 100 Dapps which is not easy to do. So all these must have caused the traders to pump up ETC.

5982  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETC to $100, when? on: December 18, 2016, 03:36:40 AM
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ETC to $100, when?

Never.

Never..Never even in my wildest dreams. Maybe when btc is at 1 million USD, we can expect ETC to be around 10 USD.  They need to start showing something solid to be even at 10 USD. Right now there is only talks and no actions.
5983  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] vDice Ethereum Blockchain Gambling || Crowdsale is CLOSED NOW on: December 18, 2016, 03:32:52 AM
price is 0.00005!!, cheaper than ico  Cheesy
I hope is not going to follow the same trend like other( SNGLS, ICN,ARC) if after a day of ICO the price is already getting this low.

For the price to pump we need the devs to bring some developments and the platform should see some growth in the number of users and bets placed. We can expect a fall in the price as bounty hunters will look to cash in, at least some of them will. But things should start getting better when the fist set of dividends are issued to the Vdice token holders.
5984  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC at $1,000 by Christmas? on: December 18, 2016, 03:28:00 AM
Based on the current markets, very unlikely and to be honest I do not wish that fast acceleration at this point. I hope to see the price climbing up slowly slowly as long as possible. When the growth starts to accelerate, we know what is going to happen.

Price gaining slowly is best for any commodities including cryptos. The faster the price gains, the harder it falls. It is best for the growth to be slow and be consistent.
I highly doubt whether we will see 1000$ mark for bitcoin this December.
5985  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Has halving changed the structure of mining? on: December 17, 2016, 06:41:57 PM
So block rewards have halved. Has this changed miners behaviour or the structure on mining.

Are there fewer empty blocks?
Have transaction fees increased?
Have any miners dropped out?
Is there a consolidation with some miners buying other mining companies?
Has the price of mining hardware dropped?

Is there any indication of future changes that miners will adopt?

The transaction fee has increased a bit and we have to shell out more if we want to faster confirmation. Old miner with S7 should have been out of the game or must have upgraded to S9.
5986  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: December 17, 2016, 06:34:34 AM
Different between bitcoin and real money in my opinion is we can know how much bitcoin in the world and there are not people who can make manipulation about it and we don't know how much real money who be printed.

yea thats right . Ive wondered why they not make more money on each every country.
Bitcoin can earn with the technology while the real money can earn both technology , sweat and blood.

That is what makes bitcoin unique. It is free from the government manipulation. Nobody can manipulate bitcoin and the supply is fixed.
A real currency needs to have a fixed supply and should be free from manipulation.  Only then an economy can function without problems.

5987  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will happen if Tech Giants get into Bitcoin or Altcoin Mining? on: December 17, 2016, 06:29:11 AM
What will happen if Tech Giants Like Google, Microsoft, Amazon starts investing in Bitcoin or Altcoin Mining?

Good Question. Looking at the difficulty of bitcoin mining, I feel some giants must have already joined the raise, they must be keeping the entire thing hidden from the public, I will not be surprised if any tech giants admit it in the coming days. I have heard of rich people just mining and dumping bitcoin simply to make quick bucks.
5988  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Giving up on Bitcoin... on: December 17, 2016, 06:27:20 AM

I am not the only one, lots of people have already given up.  Very fucking stupid mismanagement is the result.  At least TCP-IP and Linux had some means to make sensible adjustments in the early days.  Bitcoin has no means to fix things that need a fixin'.  "Consensus" is just a very stupid concept.  95% consensus will never be reached for any issue.  Bitcoin is fucked.  Doesn't scale.  Everyone already left.
Nobody cares for your FUD. There are many crypto currencies if Bitcoin is not developed according to you than you can find the coin which meets your requirements there are thousands of Crypto currencies but all those do not stand near to the Bitcoin.

If people have given up on bitcoin, then why is it still at $12,533,652,161 market cap?
Why is the mining difficulty at all time highs and still rising every week?
I agree there are challenges but bitcoin has the strength to overcome it with time.

5989  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the best source of bitcoin nowadays? on: December 17, 2016, 06:22:03 AM
If you mean by earning, I don't think there are any that pay enough for the time that you spend doing whatever it is that you do.
Best way to GET bitcoin is to just buy it cause it is below $765 now.
I think everyone must have a method they prefer. and everyone has different skills, maybe you can make profits by trading bitcoin, because you're skilled at it. what if I do not have trading skill, what should I do?

If you feel that you aren't skilled enough then, you should be looking to invest money monthly or weekly into bitcoins and hold them for a longer period of time. You look to invest into Altcoins backed by good developers and community such as ICONOMI.
Do some research and make the call.
5990  Economy / Economics / Re: The $1 Million Dollar Bitcoin on: December 17, 2016, 06:19:40 AM
100 percent  no. Bitcoin will never ever  reach that super high price.,  even the demand on bitcoin is too high ,still it cannot make the price  of.bitcoin go $1 moliion dollars.
well same here that it is impossible that it will happen.. the possible that i think the maximum price that we can see in bitcoin in the future.. 4k to 8k value each.. this is what i thought in the future.. and i hope that it can be change and much more will come with bitcoin..

1 million dollars = 1 bitcoin. That's an Insane value. I don't think it will happen and I wonder when it will happen that is if it happens by any chance. Bitcoin can reward loyal investors but 1 million USD per bitcoin is too much for the time being.

Never say never. Anything is possible. 1 million dollar for every bitcoin is big today but in future things can change very quickly. Remember when 1$ per bitcoin was considered too much? So hold on to bitcoins as close as possible and keep collecting them.
5991  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading Newbie on: December 17, 2016, 06:14:04 AM
Learning trading need patience and time, first gain some knowledge from book or internet, then look for some clue why people trade in the particular coin, and keep on update your news, then start to trade with smlall amount, it is faster to learn by experience, for beginner i suggest to open an account in yobit because the site has so many alt coin to trade

Yeah, you need to have patience and be willing to put in efforts to study various strategies and technical indicators such as RSI, MACD, Bolinger bands and the basic support and resistance levels. I think any exchanges with good volumes are good to trade.
5992  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [START] StartCOIN 2.0 - The digital currency for crowdfunding on: December 17, 2016, 06:06:22 AM
You guys are killing the price just by talking so much bullshit. He's not dumping premine on the market, no one is trying to scam you, START is close to being integrated into the platform, and you're all just a bunch of crybabies, trolls, and FUDers. The only scam here is people telling noobs this nonsense about scams and causing them to sell at a loss. THAT is the scam. You should be ashamed... but of course you're not and will come back at me with a bunch more bullshit I don't even have the patience to respond to anymore. When things progress none of you will even admit you were wrong.

Crypto traders are vultures and scum. I feel sorry for anyone trying to start a legit business with you people involved.

The entire altcoin market is in the dumps. Holding my START like a pro. Saddens me that some of you will still profit with all your lying, innuendo, and whining. You don't deserve it.



It's each man for himself. Traders and investors will have to take time and efforts to educate themselves of the projects or Alt coins they are investing into rather than reading the trolls and falling for the FUDs in various forums.
5993  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: December 17, 2016, 06:03:50 AM
Bitcoin is really worth to me because it has changed my life to a great extend.i can earn bitcoins weekly and buy all the necessary items by selling the bitcoins monthly .i can buy the things that i wanted it for a very long time .kudoos Smiley
Not only in selling items but you can also earn bitcoin by joining in some signature campaign and make sure that your posts are high quality since a lot of managers here is hate spam and low quality posts, the highest rank here is the most well paid.

You have the option to earn bitcoin in many ways such as trading, investing, selling your skills or products, gambling, etc.
I wouldn't suggest gambling and trading as they are very risky and can ruin your life. But signature campaign and investing
is safe to do.

5994  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Zcash 10$ +/- on: December 17, 2016, 05:58:20 AM
Bitcoin Forum > Alternate cryptocurrencies > Speculation (Altcoins) > Post reply ( Re: Zcash 10$ +/- )

everybody tell about price near 10$ but now everything is fine. after downtrend zec went up. and dont forget that now it is a btc bullrun.

It is possible that the ZEC has already reached the bottom. So it might hover around the current level for some time.
Its just a fake out for me when i saw on the recent price of ZEC just like what happen when it was just 0.2 before, it raises up a little bit and some people already said that time this is the beginning price increase of zec but those hope do fail because it really even dumped even more and now the lowest price is 0.02 and not starting to cling up but i still dont believe on this coin.
what will tell now? from 0.08 to 0.014 in one day. looks like good.

The question is that if the rate can be sustained.

The price lower today.

Expect Zcash to correct in the coming months as more coins will be hitting the market and the core team still hasn't yet figured out on how to make those z address work in the windows wallet. So correction is the only thing I see going ahead. Pumps make happen to suck in new traders only to crash again.
5995  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 16, 2016, 05:45:42 PM
I should have bought the dip.... So much missed $$$$. So much regret  Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
Ahh, the life of a trader is hard. (unless you hit it big and retire)

Just don't trade bitcoin right now. The best thing to do is to go long or take a long positional buy call and see for yourself how bitcoin price is going to break all the key resistance levels in 2017.

Everything is set for a massive bitcoin price surge.
5996  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: December 16, 2016, 05:41:16 PM
It does look like i would have to spend more than 200 USD to buy 1K of ICN, I'm so far lucky to have 4k still in my account. If that $3 happens, i still can profit a bit but it would be best to receive dividends still.

don't count on too much dividends for 4K ICN

Yeah, don't expect more than you would expect from any other $800 investment.

Try to invest slowly into ICN tokens as from January or February 2017 we can expect to see a sharp appreciation in the price.
The platforms are expected be launched and dividend payment to be started by that time. So this is the best time to add.
5997  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to determine the price of a product in bitcoin on: December 16, 2016, 05:36:49 PM
We all know that bitcoins price changes quickly because of its demand So if some online shop sells products and pricing it in bitcoin,
How can we price it ? Should the price change also like btc?

How about pricing it in dollars or in native currency and then at the point of paying the bill, accept to take payment in bitcoin at the rate of Bitcoin/USD at that very moment. There are facilities which the business can use to immediately convert the bitcoin back to dollars or native currencies.
5998  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Zdash Private Secure Transactions [bounties][Launched] on: December 16, 2016, 05:29:09 PM
It needs at least 2 years to make one coin valuable.

The royal holders and money flow and development..


It needs time


From wan.

Absolutely! Time is required to build a coin and it's community. Zdash can make it big with constant improvements and developments.
Community will grow over time when they see developments being made and when the devs are committed.
Bitcoin is the best example for this.
5999  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Clif High says Bitcoin is the future on: December 16, 2016, 05:25:29 PM
to me, bitcoin will be used for a long time, but never will be the future of financial world. blockchain will be used, bitcoin will probably die eventually.
PS:, die eventually doest mean tomorrow... imo bitcoin will raise a lot before that.

I beg to disagree with your view on bitcoin. Bitcoin will be there for a long time till it has the support of the community. We can see the code getting some serious upgrade in the future to resist quantum computers and to solve the issue relating to scaling.
6000  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What does a President Trump mean for Bitcoin? on: December 14, 2016, 01:19:19 PM
I like you question, also i have same thinking.
And in my point of view, i think President of USA, Trump will be like bitcoin, because he is already big big businessman. Also i don't think that any good businessman don't invest in bitcoin even he know that.     
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