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5981  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟Bitvest🌟 - Investor Plinko, Slot, Roulette, Bit Spin | 99% Dice Released! on: February 12, 2017, 02:32:42 PM
pray that N8s is not house itself .. you can never be sure
Now that is very serious accusation.
n8 has very bad luck recently and he lost lots of bitcoins. So i would say he was very lucky, but still, i wonder(again) about his overall stats and profit, if he has any.

Well if you want to get all tin hat conspiracy theory like. Someone did pull out nearly 40 bitcoins in the bankroll just hours before N8 went to town, could that be the house?
Could that be N8 himself?
Who knows?
Also, it's not first time investors divested when they saw high roller.
5982  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟Bitvest🌟 - Investor Plinko, Slot, Roulette, Bit Spin | 99% Dice Released! on: February 12, 2017, 02:11:53 PM
pray that N8s is not house itself .. you can never be sure
Now that is very serious accusation.
n8 has very bad luck recently and he lost lots of bitcoins. So i would say he was very lucky, but still, i wonder(again) about his overall stats and profit, if he has any.
5983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Fortune Jack a Scam or are they Legit? on: February 12, 2017, 01:38:46 PM
~snip~
What if the site will crash as we speak? How will you cope up now with your statement? Are you willing to just play on a site which you just encountered it at first even they are famous? OP doesn't even know that FJ is reputable site that's why questions like that are being asked.
What if meteor strikes earth and only op survive?

Anyone get paid by them?
Well, they are paying at least 6 btc every month for signature campaign. And you can read in their topic in gambling section(i am not sure how did you missed it) players experience. They are legit as far as i know.
5984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: February 12, 2017, 01:19:57 PM
Curious, that's what makes me to continue gambling despite frequently losing. When I lost 10 consecutive takes part, then I'm sure that gambling the the 11st will win and of course I'm gambling with larger nominal than before. If I still lost and I always add gambling in the next round.
But you can always lose next bet. Raising bets to cover first 10 bets is wrong decision if you ask me, what if you lose 11.bet? Than you will raise your bet again? Catching loses are leading to more loses, nothing more. If you lost ten bets it doesn't mean you will win next one, you could lost another 10 bets as well.
5985  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: February 12, 2017, 01:02:50 PM
i know most of us knew about martingale and we do use that in order to gain profits but we also aware that this same system is not safe in a long term period as we will be caught out of the blue and our winning streak will start to change up, do you have any settings of strategy to make it much worthy to use?

So for me, I believe in order to make a martingle system work you need to have a huge starting bankroll. It will not work if you have a small bankroll because once it hit a loss it will eventually loose all your winnings and your starting money.

Share it here if you have something there Cheesy



It doesn't matter if you have a big or a small bankroll to use martingale, you can just adjust your betting amount
suited to your bankroll may it be big or small. but if you want to make the best use of martingale strategy use it
only for a short time what I mean about this is use martingale for as short as possible until you have a profit
if you failed to earn a profit then stop. but if you ask me personally avoid martingale strategy as long as possible.
you know what they(gambling owners) call martingale strategy? donation strategy!
Our aim is to win in the long run and we need consistency to be able to do that, martingale can help us if we will make it with a game that no house edge is involve. It is true that we lose in the long run and the house always wins but that reality can be bypass, we have to be smart enough to develop our skills and choose only a game where we think it can deliver us profit.

Poker is a good example of that game, I believe there are quite few gamblers who made fortune with that type of gambling.[b/]

So does in dice games, roulette, slot, scrap, blackjack etc...

and as you said few gamblers, can't imagine how many gamblers lost in poker!

My point is, don't use martingale ever time you play or if you use martingale, use it for short time only(30min-1hr etc..)
and if you failed to win some profit then use another strategy. don't aim to win in the long run aim to win every time you gamble.

if you believe that a strategy is bad, then it doesn't matter if you play with that strategy for one minute or half an hour! you can lose with it in the first minute.
and also if the strategy works for (30min-1hr etc..) then it should work for 10 hours too. since the time is not a factor in the results of betting specially when it comes to a provably fair dice game.

martingale is bad mostly because the bankroll of the players can not handle the amount of loss when a big losing streak hits. but if the bankroll problem is fixed then it can be useful.

Tell that to the gamblers who won for the first few hours and then lost in the end! also, time is a huge factor if you want to gain profit and it also helps you lessen the chance of losing your bankroll.

You're making me laugh! How can you fix a bankroll? increasing the amount of the bankroll? you're just increasing the amount you're going to lose!

all you have to do is adjust the amount of your bet suited to your bankroll for you to use martingale even if you don't have a huge amount of bankroll.
I agree that time is important factor, the more you play more likely you are going to lose. But when you use martingale there are no guaranties that your game will last more than 15 seconds.

all you have to do is adjust the amount of your bet suited to your bankroll for you to use martingale even if you don't have a huge amount of bankroll.
For example? If i have 0.1btc, and i set base bet to 1 satoshi, i can miss 23 times in row, If i set base bet 10 sat i can miss 19 times etc, i don't see how you can adjust martingale.

EDIT* Is it worth to risk 0.1btc for 1 satoshi? NO.
5986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What are the most popular bitcoin gambling games? on: February 12, 2017, 10:49:56 AM


 I know Dice is by a huge margin the most played bitcoin gambling game. What do you think are the others that is played in bitcoin community a lot?

 I think plinko could be the second biggest one. Maybe it could be slots too, there are many slots games out there but I am not sure if they are played that much.

Dice is the most popular for bitcoin gambling games, because I see mostly bitcoin gambling site offer a dice games into their games list. I think it's because easy game, plus mostly supported with faucet which allow gamblers to bet without deposit.

The second one I think slots game, the games works is almost same as dice, it's easy.

But I prefer to sports game, because I like to soccer and watch the match, also I follow the trends too. The result for the match is not pure luck, this is what I like too.
I don’t see why people are so into dice gambling I mean it has less chances and it is really risky to do.
I personally prefer football matches and I find them they depend on observation and research rather than putting it all on luck like rolling a dice or playing poker, in those ones you can’t really intervene like sports.

That's the problem. Most people can't bother doing research on sports because they have no idea what to do or simply don't like sports generally.
Dice is something much simpler, you click a button and you lose, or win, instantly. You don't have to put any effort into it.

Isn't that with all gambling games, not just dice? Hit the button and wait second for result? Maybe it's not people don't want to wait for sport results, maybe it is just because they like to gamble?
5987  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟Bitvest🌟 - Investor Plinko, Slot, Roulette, Bit Spin | 99% Dice Released! on: February 12, 2017, 10:12:29 AM
Hell dear users bitvest.don't get me wrong.it's all nonsense.
I understand.jokes jokes but this is not funny.
I'm somewhat offended by a joke 77kdub about bananas+Cola+Apple+homeless.
I don't know what to say in my address that's "77kdub: so take you stupid and shove it up your ass" ??
77kdub I didn't tell you not one bad word did I say bananas+Cola+Apple+homeless is stupid.
So why should I shove something up your ass??
The only thing I could do to insult you is what I called you earlier dude.
For that I apologize.I just today learned that you're a girl,I was told ksena.
Don't get me wrong.Not very nice when you have nothing to say shove something in the ass.
(((Damn.I'm sorry that made the previous entry.I hope that the admins limits just a warning to 77kdub.
But an apology from 77kdub I certainly would like to hear.


Now, why would she do that? You were the first one who told that moderator's answer was stupid, and than you told her that you would smash her face?
So, you(as regular chat user) have right to do that, and she(as moderator) doesn't have right to answer you the same way? Would you like permanent ban better?

N8 is on and going crazy! Killing my bankroll investment Undecided
Holly f..., i am watching his 1.7 btc rolls and he won more than 110 btc...
5988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: February 11, 2017, 09:32:06 PM
A person gambles for profit would most likely lose in the long run because they already have the fear in their minds that they can lose anytime, and if they try recovering their every loss they will end up losing everything, and that is where gambling becomes bad for a person when they lose. Until they are winning they would never say it is bad.
Nonsense, people don't lose because they have fear of gambling. Also, if you want to gamble than gamble with money you really can afford to lose, if you gamble with money for food, rent etc and lose, you can't really say gambling is bad because you lose it, but you can say that you are stupid because you lost that money.
5989  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: February 11, 2017, 03:20:44 PM
My point is, don't use martingale ever time you play or if you use martingale, use it for short time only(30min-1hr etc..)
and if you failed to win some profit then use another strategy. don't aim to win in the long run aim to win every time you gamble.
Better not to use martingale at all. Short or long time, no matter 30min or 1 hour, or you can run martingale for days(if you are very lucky of course), but in the end, you will face more than 20 reds in row and you will lose your entire bankroll, no matter how small your base bet is.
5990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Basketball Betting System on: February 11, 2017, 03:06:30 PM


12-02-2017 01:00

Charlotte Hornets - L. A. Clippers

Over 217.5

Odd:2.00

bet.1$
Is this really worth a time? I mean, almost a month has passed and you made only 4$...
Maybe to try this method with more than 1 bet/day? Just suggestion..
5991  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Investment Doubt on: February 11, 2017, 01:58:58 PM
2) And Sometimes the Big Whales Win a Big Amount and the Casino is in loss so that You Also Loss your Money in that Way.......
Some casinos have more than 1mill$ in investments, IMO if they didn't run away probably they wont.

2) And Sometimes the Big Whales Win a Big Amount and the Casino is in loss so that You Also Loss your Money in that Way.......
True, there is always that kind of risk, but i think if high roller win something in casino, there is very high chance that he will come back to that casino and lose his winnings + his money. In long run investment should be just fine.
5992  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you beat the house edge on: February 11, 2017, 01:50:38 PM
Can't you beat the house edge? Today, with all these Bitcoin casinos and dices, I think it would be possible to beat small house edge with like 1%.
Yes, you can, if you win before you lose, withdraw money and never gamble again.
I just don't see other possibilities to win against house.
5993  Economy / Gambling / Re: Future rolls in Dice game on: February 11, 2017, 01:24:19 PM
Hello all thanks for reply

sorry if my question look confusing to all of you because my bad english

ok i'm gonna give an illustration. Say i'm doing an auto roll with 2x payout

   date      bet ID       time        bet         payout      game        result              profit
1-1-2017      A          13.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       11.33              -1btc
1-1-2017      B          13.01       1btc         2x        >50.49       67.72              +1btc
1-1-2017      C          13.02       1btc         2x        >50.49       82.05              +1btc

my question is if only i could turn back time and only do 2 bets with bet ID A and B  then 1 month later ( 1 February 2017) i do third bet , will the result will be the same with if i do 3 auto roll sequentially like one month ago? ( same seed, same payout, same bet , didnt change anything just continue it)

   date      bet ID       time        bet         payout      game        result              profit
1-1-2017      A          13.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       11.33              -1btc
1-1-2017      B          13.01       1btc         2x        >50.49       67.72              +1btc
1-2-2017      C          15.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       Huh?

PS : my apologize for another bad english


I appreciate all the answers

First you need to find Marty and Dr. Emmett  and ask them to lend you Delorean. Than go back to past before you rolled third time.
After you do that, go back to future and roll third roll and you will have your answer.
But be aware of Biff, he might steel from you result of third roll and become a millionaire.

I hope this will help you  Wink
5994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: February 08, 2017, 10:45:58 PM
I was wondering if you make bets on sports that you have no experience in?

lets say you have never watched boxing, or soccer even, would you still consider betting on these matches?
how will you do it then? random or will you use a tipster service?

I was thinking about getting into sports betting but the games are countless and i don't know which one to choose and i don't know anything about majority of sports.

Of course, few years ago i was betting on hokey - i didn't know back than anything about hokey and also i didn't watched hokey games. But i know how to read statistics and i was very accurate and made some extra cash. Just chose game and bet on statistically better team.
That is why sports book have like 1.9 odds on both teams if chances of winning for both are 50% while dice takes just 1% because in sports we can use brain and smartness and some people even fix matches lol so its much safer for a gambler to bet on sports he knows while betting on unknown sports is same too because you can win also or loose also but very risky actually.
Don't put words in my mouth. Where did i said that I was betting on 1.9 odds? What does this has to do with my post which you decided to quote?
If you do not understand what I am trying to say, read again my post with 1.9 house edge.
Basically sports betting has more house edge compared to other types of gambling (for example, dice). If you still do not understand what I am trying to say, I am sorry I am really helpless.

Edit:
It is pretty common and obvious that sports book offer around 10% house edge and hence I assumed moreover you compared statistical data which basically is useless since the sportsbook does a much wider review and then offer odds. And please don't take away the right to speak from us. If you are hurt for any reason, I though don't think I should, but I apologize.

Sorry, i did and i still don't understand what your post has to do with my. I never said i bet on match where both teams have 50-50 chance to win. It's not smart bet if you ask me. It is lucky bet. My bets were on 1.15-1.35, maximum 4 matches on 1 ticket.
I don't know why are you explaining to me house edge, did i say i don't know what house edge is?
Also, some dice sites have 1.9X payout when you bet on 50-50 chance.

Of course, few years ago i was betting on hokey - i didn't know back than anything about hokey and also i didn't watched hokey games. But i know how to read statistics and i was very accurate and made some extra cash. Just chose game and bet on statistically better team.
You are really lucky to get some wins to wage on a sport you have no clue but i would not dare to wage a bet in  a sport i am not interested because statistics really cannot showcase the present form and situation of the team.
You are right but betting on a sport that we don't know is like betting very randomly and sometimes odds are wrong or say ill mannered and you might loose. I though bet on sports that I don't know how they work and what are the rules but that I only do when some predictors ( whom i trust ) give picks from those sports. I never make bets myself on such games.
Ok, what about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702739.msg17770835#msg17770835 ? If i bet on statistically better team, than it is randomly lucky guess?
5995  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: February 08, 2017, 02:16:01 PM
I was wondering if you make bets on sports that you have no experience in?

lets say you have never watched boxing, or soccer even, would you still consider betting on these matches?
how will you do it then? random or will you use a tipster service?

I was thinking about getting into sports betting but the games are countless and i don't know which one to choose and i don't know anything about majority of sports.

Of course, few years ago i was betting on hokey - i didn't know back than anything about hokey and also i didn't watched hokey games. But i know how to read statistics and i was very accurate and made some extra cash. Just chose game and bet on statistically better team.
That is why sports book have like 1.9 odds on both teams if chances of winning for both are 50% while dice takes just 1% because in sports we can use brain and smartness and some people even fix matches lol so its much safer for a gambler to bet on sports he knows while betting on unknown sports is same too because you can win also or loose also but very risky actually.
Don't put words in my mouth. Where did i said that I was betting on 1.9 odds? What does this has to do with my post which you decided to quote?

Doing sports betting without knowing about the game or without being interested in sports means that you're going to rely solely in luck. I think I would do it. After all, what's the difference when you bet on dice sites that you don't know what would be the output as well. There might be some "science" behind it if you analyze the game but you don't actually understand the game so what's the point of trying to understand the stuffs behind it.

It's just gambling. No need to take it so seriously.

Everything is about luck at the end of the day, but you can reduce luck in sports betting by betting on the usual winner, but it doesn't always work and the odds are always in the higher risk anyway. Its like the Rafa Nadal vs Roger Federer finals, nobody would have guessed that one.

Well i don't think that just because you don't know anything about the sport, betting on it would be relying on pure luck, no. The difference with sport betting is that we have a lot of information that we can gather or a lot of tips that are available on the internet. For example, i dont know anything about cricket, i can look up tips online that would  give me higher percentage of winning.
True, first there are lots of statistics, second bookies will never give you high odds on favorite(of course, they can also make mistake but very very rear, if they do there are also statistics to look at), tips are also good, @pereira4 why would you pick nadal vs federer to bet?

Without having knowledge on the game and you do betting means, It's not sports betting we call it it's slot games betting. Yup in slot games only we play blind games without thinking anything here the result depends on our luck. Same thing happens if you play betting on without knowing games.
And again, if you don't have knowledge about sport it doesn't mean that you are stupid and unable to read statistics.
5996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: February 07, 2017, 09:04:25 PM
Of course, few years ago i was betting on hokey - i didn't know back than anything about hokey and also i didn't watched hokey games. But i know how to read statistics and i was very accurate and made some extra cash. Just chose game and bet on statistically better team.
You are really lucky to get some wins to wage on a sport you have no clue but i would not dare to wage a bet in  a sport i am not interested because statistics really cannot showcase the present form and situation of the team.

Oh please, give me a break with "you are really lucky" kind of post.

I was betting on statistically better teams, with better standings on table, mostly on first 2-3 teams on table against last 2-3 teams, looking at current team form(you can find that in statistics) and other stats.

Also:



Would you call this lucky bet if I bet on first team, not knowing anything about sport?!
5997  Economy / Marketplace / Re: paypal asked me about payment on: February 07, 2017, 08:35:28 PM
Based on which law(s) do PayPal prohibit to sell Bitcoins?
It's against paypals TOS to accept bitcoin trades using paypal so yes. I'll link that part oftheir tos once I find it.
Actually it is against their TOS to do any kind of currency exchange:

Quote
Prohibited Activities

You may not use the PayPal service for activities that:
~snip~
(h) involve currency exchanges

Here is link: https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/acceptableuse-full
5998  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is this man addicted to gambling? on: February 07, 2017, 08:03:21 PM
My close friend is 50 years old. He's never been addicted to anything throughout his life. His friend made a poker website and now he keeps playing there a lot. he also uses some free tickets to tournaments he gets from betcoin.ag signature campaign. He plays almost every day for a few hours. And he became more nervous in general. But he doesn't think he's addicted and his argument for that is that he can stop playing for a day or two (that's true) and he doesn't spend his own money on it at all. Would you call such a man addicted?

I think so, because he's not aware anymore in a normal things happen in his daily e life. By the way what do you mean he doesn't ?spend his own money? Does is someone spending money for him?

Are you able to read quoted post?
Where did OP said that his friend is not aware of things around him? Also, what part of "free tournaments tickets" you don't understand?

Oh no, another brand new farming account!
5999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will you bet on "Sports" games that you don't know? on: February 07, 2017, 07:25:26 PM
I was wondering if you make bets on sports that you have no experience in?

lets say you have never watched boxing, or soccer even, would you still consider betting on these matches?
how will you do it then? random or will you use a tipster service?

I was thinking about getting into sports betting but the games are countless and i don't know which one to choose and i don't know anything about majority of sports.

Of course, few years ago i was betting on hokey - i didn't know back than anything about hokey and also i didn't watched hokey games. But i know how to read statistics and i was very accurate and made some extra cash. Just chose game and bet on statistically better team.
6000  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Win using martingale system? on: February 07, 2017, 07:11:21 PM
Usually martiangle can made quick profit so just make sure that you're watching your bet or you will face significant loss
Sometimes I change my martiangle method into high risk high reward with martiangle , ofcourse the result will be profit at the end but it's all depend on luck !

If you increase your bet, you have to be prepared to lose. I haven't found a way to play martingale that wins unless you stop while you are ahead with a small gain.
Because martingale strategy isn't winning one. I just can't imagine how small your initial bet has to be and how big your bankroll that martingale can give you small profit.

Usually martiangle can made quick profit so just make sure that you're watching your bet or you will face significant loss
Sometimes I change my martiangle method into high risk high reward with martiangle , ofcourse the result will be profit at the end but it's all depend on luck !
How do you watch your bets? What if you start with losing series and you lose bankroll in few rolls?
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