Z - because it's have bitcoin & Zcash codebase on the board (privacy features available and other Zcash code, but no pre-mine)

About quantity of coins. It's like on bitcoin 21m, but 21m multiplied by 1000.
It's easy to human to deal with whole numbers. If you can give 0.003 bitcoin per human on the Earth, then you can give 3 BitcoinZ per human. The same.

I'm starting the thread about alts at Bitcoin reddit. And wrote my opinion about Ethereum, Bitcoin Gold and that BitcoinZ is better that that ****coins. Can somebody support me with this position, because it is hard for me to write English and answer to all comments, Also some ppl who like to own ****coins like ETH down vote my thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7nf4ul/use_you_brain_please_about_bitcoin_gold_ethereum/

P.S. Also I suggest again: we must get off as soon as possible from BTC price and go to BCH pair. It will be amazing to have BCH/BTCz pair at BTCz new decentralized exchange BarterDEX. This coins (BCH and BTCz) have very low fees, we are made for each other to trade on decentralized exchange (who do not know, at BarterDEX need to make 2-4(?) transactions onchain to exchange coins decentralized. It's true decentralized exchange where you own your private keys and coins always!)

What need to do to have this pair at BarterDEX and other exchanges?

BitcoinZ Community Happy New Year!

Just remember: the price is 99% marketing, not developing. I wish that we will concentrate on marketing at 2018 !

BTC, BCH, XRP, DASH, IOTA and many other coins at this year made 1000x+ per coin. 100-250x is not a big number....

Sure, BTC dead for me and others who have brain, but problem is not with bubble. It's about spoiled codebase of BTC and not the right way of development. The development itself is captured by a not trusted one team that has lost trust. Awesome that we have open source code and can fork it and fix this issue.
And for this reason we must untie the course of BTCz from BTC to other pairs. I suggest BCH pair for this role.

I made research before I join BTCz and I do not find any other good altcoins to mine. All of them are shitcoins. It was hopefulness on Bitcoin Gold, but after launch it show that it's totally scam. I found only one good and reasonable alternative from all alts. It's BTCz.

It's analogy and it's not "flawed perspective". On the point of user view it's the same. The main position that nothing will changed for regular users only  complication of coin :

1. "opening a payment channel" = You move your bitcoin to exchange and have one onchain transaction like at LN = you open your channel.
2. "But they are still your Bitcoins." Yes, on the exchange it's the same: "your bitcoin", but exchange can request KYC from your to return it or can return ZERO for you for some other reason. But it's still your bitcoin. The same lightning hub can request KYC from your and send you back less amount that your expected to receive. All the same as on exchanges.
3. Within the LN you create valid transactions but you don't publish them to the BTC blockchain. == The same you do on the exchange. You make valid transactions offchain on the exchange, but don't publish them on the blockchain.
3. "Once you publish the last valid transaction to the blockchain, the payment channel is closed" the same will be happen when you will "close you payment channel on the exchange" with bitcoin wiredraw function. At the same moment you will receive onchain transaction. Like checkpoint at LN.

Conclusion: almost the same as exchange. Will not help
Conclusion2: when (and IF) ppl will discover the truth about SegWit, RBF on Core Bitcoin(BTC) and LN. On such situation BTC price will drop significantly without any odds to recover, Bitcoin name will receive other coin with original bitcoin vision. all other coins spoiled with segwit will also drop down or die. The chance will be for not spoiled coins who develop on the road and vision from original bitcoin whitepaper .

p.s. And this I have not yet written about the pitfalls of never announced LN, but described at developer whitepaper. I.E. Do you know that at some cases if user will go offline suddenly by network failor or so when he use LN, then he will lose his bitcoins? Amazing technology Good luck with all of that

We trust in decentralization, full control of our money and simplicity

Do you own investigation, read more what LN is.

In simple words it's centralized hub, where you can send your bitcoins (remember: to made this you need to make on-chain transaction(s) with high fees!) and you can lose you bitcoins at all

With simple explanation you already have Lightning Network. It is any exchange ( specialty exchanges with "codes" or possibility to withdraw funds to other user account at the exchange.
Exchange = lightning hub.

You send to Exchange(lighting hub) your bitcoins and then you can send it to other users, spend and pay for other services that this exchange support with low fees. Also you can do "atomic swaps" on exchange(lightning hub) to other crypto coin. So, think that exchange=Lighting hub, then answer me how LN will solve your problems if it will be announced?

with SegWit code -> potential of Lightning Code

I heard the same about Bitcoin Core team. But almost 5 years they do nothing with every day increasing fees. Only that they do 5 years: ruined the original working bitcoin code with their intervention. They also maid it less secure with SegWit and more centralized on the question of mining, because small miners out of the game for the reason of high fees (you can not receive your mining reward if you small miner, because all reward go to fees) . Maybe need to ask this question for them? Or wait. You will be banned after this question.

Re-read my comment.

One the very first time when you will enter password it will broke. If you want to keep you wallet.dat safe, then do not keep it on your hard drive. Simple solution.

Another unnecessary and not working feature (whistles and fakes) which does not increase security at all.

To protect yourself, you need to use not compromised computer.

If your computer has already been compromised (hacker, virus, trojan) then nobody will safe you, because your money will be stolen after the first time when you will enter your wallet encryption password.

If enemy can steal your wallet.dat, then nobody prevents him to steal your password.

This password creates only the illusion of security.

So, I made the conclusion that it's rather a minus to security than a plus.

What new features do you need? This coin have working features from original bitcoin extended with the privacy and ASIC resistance mining.

You must understand, that on the money world and at the cryptography world old time-tested features are better in 99% cases.

Example: Now, Bitcoin (BTC) spoiled by new, non-workers and dubious features like SegWit and LN. These are not working features, unnecessarily complicated, non-secure and with many pitfalls which (very possible) will be fail after start, if at all will ever be launched(LN). As a result one of the branches(BTC) was spoiled with crap code. At the same time original vision of bitcoin from bitcoin whitepaper was restored/saved at another branch of bitcoin (BCH). It's old code, but it's working amazing without any scammy new features.

BTCz also work on the codebase from original bitcoin vision (like BCH with real original bitcoin code), but it also extended with zcash privacy and BTCz is ASIC resistance. BTCz on the technical plan is already better that any other bitcoin from original branch. What do you really need more of that? Scammy untested PoS? Or maybe centralized hubs like DASH have? Or what? All whistles and fakes on other coins now only to inspire and impress investors. Real money are coins like BTCz.

Thinks about it like about Bitcoin, but always divide the price/supply by / 1000.

Example:
 if legacy Bitcoin (BTC) will be with the same supply as BTCz, then the price of BTC will be today 15000/ 1000 = 15$ per coin.

From this follows that if BitcoinZ will be at some day popular like legacy Bitcoin, then the price will be 15$ per BTCz coin.
Price 1$ = 1000$ of legacy Bitcoin.

I apologize for interrupting and asking questions that not everyone will like, but coinomi wallet is proprietary software since 2016. Proprietary software is not a good idea to store coins. There are still many users of this wallet? Will we definitely get a good result by spending this money to listing at coinomi? Or we can spend this money (+ add some more) to be listed on some big and known exchange?

BTC is too expensive and high fees to move it. Is it possible to add BCH pair on tradesatoshi and to stochs.exchange ?

and what is about c-cex? is it safe to trade?

Current voting for:
Next.exchange: https://nextexchange.featureupvote.com/suggestions/2405/bitcoinz-btcz
Altcoin.io: https://feedback.altcoinexchange.com/suggestions/2021/bitcoinz-btcz-pow-equihash-algorithm
Mercatox: https://mercatox.com/coins/list?name=btcz
Cex.io: https://support.cex.io/hc/en-us/community/posts/115002759994-NEW-BitcoinZ-BTCZ-Please-Vote

On this exchanges we need voting. It's without registration 1 sec voting. I suggest everyone to leave comment.

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Who know. Coinomi wallet allow to exchanges supported coins or not?

https://info.btcz.rocks/

Check "Exchanges" paragraph. There are at least 3-4 exchanges where you can vote for BTCz without registration. Don't be lazy. Vote up!

Also what do you think about Coinomi payment:  1.25 BTC + 0.25 BTC in BTCZ ? Maybe better to add some funds and pay for cryptopia listing?

Yes. I think one big will be much better then 10 small...


https://stocks.exchange/trade/BTCZ/BTC
Is it possible to add more pairs for BTCz? First of all BCH pair.

I'm very interested at bitcoin pair BCH/BTCz. but unfortunately BTCz does not have light Electron BitcoinZ client(