None of us knows that evolution theory evolution (ETE) exists. Cause and effect eliminates random. Every cause causes an effect exactly according to the way the cause affects the effect. Nothing random. Yet, random is a requirement for ETE. Google "random mutations evolution." If the cause didn't produce the exact effect that was caused, fabrication and engineering wouldn't work. The only difference in nature is that the causes and effects are many, and are tiny enough that we can't track them. But physics is exact. It controls everything so that the cause always causes the exact effect required by the way the cause acts. There is no room for random as ETE suggests. Since this is the way the whole universe works, there is no ETE evolution. There might be simple change, or there might be adaptation, and you can call both of these evolution to some extent, but they are not ETE. An engineer conducting an experiment is the cause, and often uses many causes to obtain the effects he is looking for. If things were random as ETE calls for, the engineer could never know if he would ever get the desired results/effects. Standard scientists know this. They know that ETE is impossible, despite what they say. Because of this... Evolution is a hoax.  Cause and effect does not eliminate randomness, not at all! In order to eliminate randomness you have to have the exact same causes, under the exact same circumstances, the exact same environment, working on the exact same items, in exactly the same order and timeframe, etc.… But that is not what goes on in evolution, not at all! Why do two parents produce different children? Because not everything is exactly the same, the second time around. Billion small things are different, timeframe, order, environment, circumstances etc.. both external and internal. Even if you could somehow make all those billion small things exactly the same, there is one thing you can’t make the same – time. Time has gone by, it itself is a change in condition (not to talk about the environment), thus causes are not the same anymore = different outcome. As far as I know time travel is not yet invented, at least it was not for 99, 999999% of evolution timeframe. And we all do know evolution is a fact - just not all acknowledge it  |
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Airdrop 8 was also dropped today. About 10 hours before snapshot. So they got counted too for the snapshoot, of course if you reg. your address in time!
272 valid users, received a combined pot of 250.000 lovely Dstra's
Come on over and join the fun!
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The snapshot has come and gone…. good stuff always goes way to quick Last valid block before snapshot was 187050 Aug 21, 2018 1:59:47 PM (11.59.47 UTC)  |
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''had to do with some changes in nature'' Are you talking about evolution? Your <70 IQ is showing again. Evolution refers to change, and in particular in our gene-centered age, change due to changes in genes. Mutation changes DNA sequence, and if that change is transmitted to the next generation, the population’s gene pool, its set of genotype variants, has changed—it has evolved. I already gave you plenty of examples of this, the lizard speciation example for instance clearly fits the definition of evolution.
Evolution can't be change, because evolution doesn't exist. Evolution isn't anything. Change is cause and effect programming. Mutation is simply change via C&E programming. You don't need me to give you any C&E examples, because you and all people - especially the scientists among us - use C&E everyday. But like your inability to give us any proof for evolution, you don't have even one proof for pure random (opposite of C&E). Yet, C&E, adaptation, and like-begets-like abound all over the place in quantities too numerous for us to be able to count. Evolution is a hoax, and its perpetrators are destroyers of knowledge. Hmm, we all know evolution exists How do you figure that cause and effect eliminates the possibility of Evolution? Sounds like you think they are mutual exclusive? Everything is cause and effect; there is always, in everything, a cause that gives an effect. While in science, fabrication / engineering you use causal systems and experiments, it’s either a closed system or you only see the effects that materialize. In other areas it’s purely a philosophic subject, because here you wonder also about the things that could have materialized, but did not. Nothing excludes evolution in neither science or in philosophy, cause and effect. There is no such thing as cause and effect programming in Evolution. Cause and effect, yes, programming, no. Evolution works in the biggest system we know, the universe, with no option to step outside the system to observe. The observer is himself part of the “experiment”. There is absolutely no way to run the experiment without either contributing to the cause, or being an effect. An Engineer conducting an experiment does it from the outside, observing in. He is able to add or remove items in order to observe cause and effect. He is not himself part of the experiment. |
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hey guys, I missed the first 8 airdrops. How can I join the party? Off course you can join. Go to the discord server and read the rules https://discord.gg/myRaxZThe more the better, so you are very welcome. Forum is here https://forum.dstra.io/ |
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Very simply speaking, species don't change into other species. Their changes are adaptation to climate or geographical conditions, however complex the changes might be. In humans, these adaptation changes might even be for emotional pleasure or joy. However, two things need to be proven to make evolution having happened: 1. Species change to other species; 2. Random change, that eliminates cause and effect programming. Even if there is a change in species, somehow, programming still makes it to be something other than what evolutionists understand it to be. So far, evolution is a hoax, because we aren't really coming close to finding a species change or change without C&E... and we know it. Yes they do! - Species change to other species. It’s called evolution, and it takes time. Small changes here and there, over a (very) long period. When do you consider a species changed to another species? When they can’t breed anymore maybe? House cats can breed with leopards. Now there might be a complex scientific classification of these, and they are in the same family, but would you not say they are two different species? Sure might never happen in the wild, leopard would just think, hey lunch, but they can breed. How about Tigers and Lions? Do you think of a house cat and a lion as the same thing, species-wise? How about humans and apes? Can they breed? Don’t know if they can, don’t know of anybody have tried, but I’m sure some have. I’ll take a wild guess that some apes can breed with humans, maybe not all but some. Don’t want to see the result though! Why can some species not breed and some – that I consider different species – still breed? Why can’t I breed a giraffe and an elephant or mouse and mosquito? Well the solution is very simple; some species are simply too far removed from their common ancestor on the evolutionary tree, while some are much closer. Too much evolution (change) has happend. If it was all programming by design, why can there even be any cross-breeding at all? Hmm… let me wonder about that for a moment…..Programmed by design to be able to cross-breed, create new species that was not in version 1 of the whitepaper. Hmmm… I think I will choose to call that evolution. Can it happen in a lab or by a little human help, it most certainly has happened in the wild, in the span of a billion years, and a billion-billion-billion “tests”. Must mean by shire statistic that none v1 whitepaper species are running around right now on the planet. Evolution 100% confirmed! |
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To put it simply:
No, if it is buried deep in the blockchain.
Yes, if it is at the top of the blockchain, or close to the top.
That's why there is the rule to wait for 6 confirmations before a payment is confirmed. There is nothing special about the number 6, but it is practically impossible to replace a block that has 6 or more blocks on top of it.
Very interesting. The number six was simply randomly chosen? Or by six confirmations the possibility to do serious damage to the chain is now so statistical large that it becomes impossible in practice? I’m asking, because I always find a fascination on how some standards / values get chosen. Is it based on probability for a given outcome, or just really randomly chosen. |
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To summarize point 2, in practice, the 3 of 4 wallet could be an easy solution.
Thank you all for your replies.
A very nice and easy solution, 3 out of 4, of which you own two of them. I guess that should work as you would like it to. You would always be a required signer. |
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We use the word "evolution" in different ways. For example, the Model T Ford evolved over many years into the variety of Ford vehicles that we have today. This, however, is not what is meant by evolution theory evolution (ETE). ETE does not match the evolution of Ford cars except in the simple way that both of them are change. The rest of ETE doesn't match what happened in Ford car evolution. This is the same with nature, life, and the world around us. Certainly there is change. So, in that simple sense there is evolution, just like in Ford cars. The thing that has not been found in changes in the world around is a change from one species to another in nature. Yet that is exactly what is required for ETE to exist... along with a bunch of other changes. Adaptation is not necessarily a learned trait. In fact, cause and effect highly suggests that it is built in rather than learned, and that the whole process of teaching and learning is the effect of causes. Teaching and learning follows complex laws of physics. We think they are simple because we don't understand much of the complexity. It just happens. But cause and effect dictates how it happens, and the ways the changes happen through learning. Training is set in place by cause and effect. What does such training have to do with evolution? It is change... semantics. But it is not the kind of change talked about in ETE. ETE is a hoax, i.e., evolution is a hoax. I don’t understand what it is you need to find? You want to find 1-10 specimens of a given kind, for every year, spanning a million years – 100 million years in the future. It is not going to happened, they are not available anymore, they are gone, dust. Those specimens we have are at best 1000 of years apart, at worse millions. Lots happen in these timeframes. You are never going to find, offspring after offspring spanning 1000 of years, in order to see a finger turn into flipper, or reverse or something like that. Does not mean you can’t find two specimens 100.000 - 500.000 years apart, with some sort of evolution. As I said earlier, prove to me that the average height of humans have increased 10-20cm in the span of 200 years. But do it in 100 million years’ time. You can’t. But it did happen. They are going to have a likewise discussion by then, like us, on just this subject. Evolution is observable on the daily basic, on trillions of examples, including humans. In 25k years they are going to argue about whether the Giza pyramids even existed. |
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Evolution is NOT a hoax! It is a THEORY, or a HYPOTHESIS, if you like, and it used to satisfy people's needs. However, with time, as new knowledge develops, the THEORY is becoming increasingly ironic and, thus, needs adjustments. Evolution is not a theory. Why not? Because the theory about evolution has been disproven many times over. The theory as taught in the schools neglects to take into effect most of the evolution things that have been disproven. Since there is no evolution, there is no Theory of Evolution. All there is, is people saying that evolution theory exists. For example. Imagine that an astronomer was looking through a telescope some 12 billion light years out. He sees something out there, and he gets a bunch of his colleagues and friends to look through his 'scope. They see it, as well. So, the form a scientific theory about what it is. Then other astronomers develop better telescopes and start to look for the object that supposedly is 12 billion light years out there. They look for years, and nobody finds it. Finally somebody examines the telescope used by the first astronomer (who is long dead) and finds a scratch on the lens. Evolution is a bit like that. As far as the science of Darwin's day, evolution could be an absolutely real thing. But as far as scientific advances made since Darwin, evolution is impossible. The universe, and especially life, is way too advanced design-wise for something like like evolution theory evolution to be real. Evolution theory is not really theory, because evolution has been proven impossible. The thing that keeps the evolution idea being referred to as theory is, some people want it to be referred to as theory... to save face, or to continue to make money off it. Evolution is a hoax. Heh, you just keep saying that no factual proof of evolution has ever been found, but at the same time saying that most evolution things have been disproven. So you are disproving things that according to you do not exist in the first place… Of course it’s all balb blab. Evolution is all around you, trillions of examples. That you choose not to see them, does not mean they are not there. Adaptation is a learned trait, by an individual or group (even over a long time). That can or cannot be passed onto future individuals, thereby end up (but not necessarily) as evolution. Evolution per say is not a learned trait, but a born trait, a trait you will have a hard time (or not at all) to unlearn. Example height, dark hair, blue eyes, intelligent and cognitive skills etc. And if you thought the two last ones is something you learn as you see fit, you thought wrong, cause ones way of thinking is already there from the beginning. You can get better though, by training. |
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Don´t forget to register and dump private key for the swap!
V2 wallet and MN are comming!
It looks like tis is now the most important task to accomplish for DSTRA holders. Those who don't keep tuned are at risk of losing their coins. Very true. This is VERY important. Swap or your coins are lost i think is the message. v1 blockchain will not be maintained after 21 August 2018. Everyone still have a week, so time enough still. I myself have not done it yet, i will do it within a few days, tops. Swap form https://goo.gl/forms/hrEqKEnOiVybaR3z1 |
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Not any day soon, I’m afraid. Wish it was different, but it’s not. Bitcoin (well all coins) has to compete with fiat and its electronic payment systems, namely credit cards and mobile pay. They are not going to lay down easy, they have a business too. You need instant transaction, instant confirmation and zero fees, to even dream of competing on a day-to-day basis.
If crypto is only for buying lambo’s and web shopping, well yes it can compete. In the supermarket for two liter milk, bread or a six-pack, you have no chance to compete if you cannot fulfill all three things as mentioned. If you want to take over the world payment-wise, you need to be able to handle daily business. Crypto technology is not there, yet!
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How is development progressing on the anonymous Deep Send technology?
Is it due for release this year or is the ETA still unknown?
Still unknown i believe. Has been in the making, at least announced, almost since the beginning of Deeponion, about a year ago. Seem a bit more difficult to make then expected. But good things do take time, so lets wait a little longer and see. |
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Nice price of Onion at the moment. I just bought some more Onion today.  Yea, it is very low (but just like everything at the moment), despite the good development and the efforts of the development team. I hope they soon publish DeepSend and create another good marketing campaign (like the airdrop) Indeed the marketing campaign for Deep Onion was of great value. Well executed with continuous efforts and probably also some luck in timing,-a well on way airdrop campaign during the December coin bull. I believe it might have done more than any other single aspect of the project. Marketing just trumps any features a coin might have, any time. The power of advertising. |
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Bitcoin has a long way to achieve its goal, bitcoin is still developing and growing up. Even though bitcoin have many obstacles in its way, it did not stop and always continue moving ahead, when all people worldwide would accept bitcoin it would be one of its goal.
the purpose of bitcoin is intended for the whole world. well, but at the moment I am not so sure that bitcoin has not been accepted worldwide. but until now, bitcoin continues to grow to continue to reach its goal Well said. Will be a while before bitcoin, well every coin, is a household term, and used as such. Will be interesting to see in 5 years time, which coin comes out on top. Bitcoin maybe, possible, but not a certainty. Goverment policy will have a big say, in which direction we will go, and certinally also which coin(s) comes out on top. |
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So the announcement regarding the new specs and tier reward details will be done soon.
I strongly urge you guys to buy some cheap Traw now to fulfill your Masternode Collateral requirement.
Good point! Cheap Traw have been avaiable the last 8-10 days - at least the orders got filled. It will not last i believe. Once MN arrives - saw a new wallet on discord yesterday, looking very nice - locking up something like +5 million Traw, cheap will not be that cheap anymore. So get your coins while it lasts. |
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Is this the new airdrop coin? Is the user's wallet secure enough to not be stolen by thieves?
Been around for many month, 4-5. Evolved out of the old scam coin Fome. We are currently at Airdrop 8 (14 days drop). As for secure wallet. Security is really a user issue, and no amount of wallet features will prevent users from mishandling privacy issues. |
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That's a nice science fiction article, there. But it doesn't have even one proof that evolution exists in it. Evolution is a hoax. Think you are looking for examples of proof that is simple not available. That’s does not mean you can’t deduct from proof that are there. Example can we agree on that humans average high have increased in say the last 100-200 years? If you take that premises as acceptable, even true, how are you going to prove that, 100 million years from now? The chances that you are going to dig up 10 specimens of each gender, for every single year, for every region of the planet, many 1000 specimens in all, to make a good case, that is very hard to argue against, is statistical zero. Chances are you only have a few specimens of mixed gender, and mix completeness, cover those couple of 100 years. From that you deduct or rather make a theory. In case of evolution, we far from have all the answers and far from all the proof to 100% support all branches of those theories. Working on it, but to say there is no proof, is your unsupported theory. Think of it this way. In evolution we have 1 specimen from 3000 b.c, 2 from 400 b.c, a couple from 200 a.d and one from 1920. From that we have an evolution theory. Complete, narrr far from it. Work in progress. We are learning every day. |
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Nice to see the project is coming along smoothly. Going to be great to have these new wallets up and running to get a Tiered MN up and running. I hope the rewards is correct with the removal of the extra 0 as if the 0 is there then Tier 3 guys will be collecting a Tier 1 MN quite quickly.
Might be true. It all depends of how much you get per day average. If you only get one MN reward on average a day, a tier 4 MN (700000 traw) gives more just by staking normally in the wallet. You need at least, on average of course, more than 1 POS rewards daily, to make it worthwhile. We well see. What I’m equal interested in, is that Goat does not water down the coins in circulation already, during the swap, by increasing the max supply. Currently there are 25,5 million in circulation, 25 mill premined and about 500000 stake reward from the entire community during the last 4 month. As far as I know there is no max supply, but currently 2,5 traw reward per stake, we will go a long way before we hit 30 mill or more. Good, not too big an inflation. However as stated by Goat the new reward will be 7,5 traw per stake, which leads me to believe he will increase either the premine or total supply, to something like 50-75 million, maybe even 100 mill, both which is no good. Say you have 10000. You had 10000 in 25 million, now you have 10000 in 75 million. Hmmm I will be very disappointed if that happens. Clear watering down the coin. Of course all this is depending that the swap is 1:1, which it might not be. |
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Our masternode wallet is finally out of testing and ready to be released 
In another 48 hrs I will open a form for the community to fill and proceed with swap, at the end of the week I will proceed to informing the exchange of our swap.
We still have another 21 weeks of airdrop, so take the time to join the community at Discord and see all the cool stuff we have going on.  Wallet looks very crips! like it alot. 48 hours cant wait for wallet and swap. Is there gonna be a periode with two versions of traw? i mean not all will swap in one instant. Of cource once all swapped and closed their wallets the chain will simply die, but until that happens we are having v2 (new) and v1 (old) traw in circluation, right? Exchange change right away to new coin, right? |
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