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61  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: High Fees on Electrum? Normal? on: May 12, 2024, 06:55:23 AM
I wasn't expecting this kind of fee since I've checked the mempool was only a 1$-2$ to confirm.
The fee displayed on mempool.space is for a native segwit transaction with 1 input and 2 outputs.
Your transaction includes many inputs and that's why you have to pay higher fee for that. You may be able to decrease the fee with decreasing number of UTXOs via coin control.

By the way, 12 sat/vbyte is now enough for getting fast confirmation. No need to pay 30 sat/vbyte.

-snip-
Am I missing something here?
The issue is a combination of using mid range of "static" fee slider @30sat/vB and the size of your transaction which is 2045vB.
Your screenshot already shows the simple formula on how to compute the absolute fee.

If you want to minimize it; set the fee rate to the current optimal which is that 12sat/vB in your other screenshot (same thing you'll get with "mempool" slider at '0.8mb from tip')
And more importantly, select only a few large UTXOs since your transaction probably used a lot of inputs for reaching 2045vB size.
To do that: enable and go to 'Coins' tab (View->Show Coins), multi-select some UTXO that are enough to pay your recipient, right-click and select "Add to coin control".



Do this one and make the fees lower to what I normally expected  Smiley Is this right? Set it to around 12sats since that is what's in the high priority of mempool.

Didn't know about his coins, static, add to control, etc. seems new to me, I usually just send it directly and the fees are lower and match on the mempool I didn't need to do this setup is it new?, thanks a lot!
62  Bitcoin / Electrum / High Fees on Electrum? Normal? on: May 12, 2024, 05:30:43 AM
Good day everyone, can anyone explain to me here what I've been doing wrong or is it totally normal? I usually do this kind of transaction but the fees seem to be a little bit high this time as you can see here. Most of the time my transactions were around 40$ and transaction fees were only around 2$ most of the time, of course except if the network was congested but it doesn't seem to be congested as per checking.



I wasn't expecting this kind of fee since I've checked the mempool was only a 1$-2$ to confirm. It usually matches, electrum fees and mempool are matched in my past transactions as far as I can remember, It doesn't take this much gas or fees just to make these transactions, I would totally understand if the network was congested just like on the Bitcoin halving day, which is around 200$.



Am I missing something here? I just reformatted my desktop computer and reinstalled my wallet on it, is there something that I've changed on the electrum setting probably? or this was just normal because of the Bitcoin Halving? Thanks for your help.
63  Local / Pilipinas / High Fees sa Electrum on: May 11, 2024, 06:16:01 PM
Tatanong ko lang mga kabayan baka may nakakaalam kung bakit ganito ang fees sa Electrum wallet ko sobrang taas ng fees ang laking percentage sa isesend na amount ko, kahit babaan ko man mataas pa rin ang kuha na fees almost one thousand pesos yung makukuha sa fees.

Kahit cheneck ko naman dito sa mempool nasa one dollar lang ang transactions, pero kapag sa electrum na ako magsesend sobrang taas ng inaabot ng fees 17% na ata yung pinakamababa pero sa mempool around 1$-2$ lang ang fees, dati naman hindi ganito ang transactions ko parang may nagalaw siguro ko dahil nagreinstall ako ng Electrum dahil nagreformat ako ng desktop computer. Pa help naman ako sa nakakaalam salamat.


64  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Fake website on: May 11, 2024, 05:54:15 PM
Bitcoin investment has been so good to people, but to some they got scammed because they invest in a wrong platform, and now with the way things are going scammer are alway busy creating fake website to scam people

My question is that how can someone dictate a fake website? because is getting too much, is there anyway the comments need to know things like this if there is any.

If it was actually created greatly its gonna be difficult to know if it is a fake website if you just see it the first time, I mean most of the scam websites and completely running well before they would end up shutting down and running away with your money, so there was no actual way but to do some research about the website, so that you could identify some red flags and with that you could assume its risk when putting your money or investment on it. Even here in the forum I think there was a thread of fake platforms here that you could check.

The best thing to do, is just avoid suspicious websites first, just go for a trusted website already so that you can avoid getting scammed with the hack websites, Most of the time it's on the links that we click so be mindful as well with the links that you click online because there are a lot of websites that have similar links but the different domain you might end up clicking the wrong one. The next one is getting too good-to-be-true deals, most of the time if a website promises a huge amount that is already a red flag since it wasn't going to be profitable for them to run and give that much of money. Lastly is always be updated with the community, I mean hackers and scammers are trying new methods and creating new websites everytime just trying to scam you so make sure to be updated with the community, like here in the forum there are a lot of topics here for awareness of new types of scam or modus etc.
65  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did you start investing in bitcoin because of some celebrity ? on: May 11, 2024, 04:37:54 PM
I see that current youth is inspired by celebrities and influencers in big way. Did you also start investing in bitcoin because of some celebrity ? Or you know people who belong to that category ? Is it a wise decision to do so or we should do our own research for better results ?

I started investing in Bitcoin because of my friend taught me about it but, Obviously not wise to do invest just because of some influencer or some celebrity just because you trust them or they are your idol or something, I mean there were a lot of people getting scammed and hacked with that kind of thinking, if you're going to rely on influencers online or celebrity which is mostly paid by scammers or websites you surely are going to be vulnerable to scams and hacks, those kind of things are popular online getting hack and because they invested because they get influence by some popular people then just ended up blaming the influencers because they lose a lot of money because they invested on it, quite popular I think when the NFTs are starting to blow up. I mean it wasn't really that bad as long as you're willing to do the research on what they are promoting, I personally don't trust these influencers and celebrity-promoting websites or investments because my first thinking was they are all paid to do this kind of advertisement on social media, but when there was some promotion that I actually like, I take my time to actually do the research on it, just to know if it is a legitimate website? is it a legitimate investment? can I make a profit on it? something like that so I don't end up losing money.
66  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Panu maaccess ang binance sa pinas kahit block na ito dito sa pinas on: May 11, 2024, 02:02:31 PM
Hindi mo kelangan mag VPN — in fact, mas ok na hindi ka naka VPN. Kasi pag naka VPN may chance na iblock ng Binance ung account mo kasi baka ma-flag as unauthorized access.

Just change DNS to 1.1.1.1(CloudFlare) or 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4(Google).

Agree still working parin saken itong method na ito at sa tingin ko naman masokey nga naman ito kaysa sa VPN, siguro kung legitimate ang VPN mo massafe siya kumpara lang dun sa mga free VPN dahil hindi mo rin alam ang mga posibility na baka mabanned pa ang account mo so masokey na magstick nalang dito sa method na ito.


So far wala naman ako problema sa Binance kahit yong mga friends ko and cousins nakaka access pa din sa binance ng walang issue ,parang di nga namin ramdam itong blocking na sinasabi  ng SEC though may mga nababasa at naririnig kami na na blocked na daw sa kanila yet wala naman sa part namin.

Pero thanks sa tulong mo dito kabayan I think kailangan ko i save to in case mangyari din sa amin ang blocking bagay na sana naman wag na mangyari lalo na at inaayos na ng binance ang case nila dito.

So far tama ka jan kabayan, hindi sobrang higpit sa ngayon dahil tulad neto marami pa rin tayong mga method para maacess ang Binance, kahit yung application ng Binance hindi pa naman nila naboblock, I mean maraming mga updates na tatanggalin daw ito sa playstore pero so far wala pa namang nangyayari. Not sure if kaya ba talaga nila na maghigpit ng talagang block I mean kahit naman kase sa mga countries na block ang Bitcoin or Binance laging may way pa rin naman talaga para maaccess ito kung gugustuhin naten, I mean internet naman kase yan, pano nga naman naten iboblock ang internet.


Use the Binance app. Much simple since hindi pa ban or restricted ang Binance app kaya no need mag VPN or proxies. Besides, Nakikipag ugnayan na ang Binance para sa kanilang license kaya syang lng ang VPN subscription since babalik din naman sa dati once mag comply na sila.

So far, wala akong problem na naeencounter gamit ang app since ito din talaga ang palagi kong gamit dahil mas convenient at malinis ang user interface compared sa website.
Di ko sure kung ako lang ba ito pero yung app niya is nagrereturn na sakin ng error kapag binubuksan ko siya, tingin ko wala na talagang way to access Binance kasi ganito yung nangyayari eh. Saan mo pala nasagap yung balita na makakabalik sila kapag nagcomply na sila? Parang hindi ata yan nabahagi sakin ng mga kakilala ko sa crypto community kaya medyo nagulat ako dahil may ganyan pala, sana nga totoo yan at makakabalik sana sila dito at kung totoo man na babalik, sana naman ay hindi ganun katagal yung pagbabalik nila pero nasa Pinas kasi tayo eh, siguradong mabagal ang paperwork.

So far naman saken working ang Binance app not sure kung anong issue nung sa iyo pwd mo siguro itry ireinstall yang application baka sakaling nagkaissue lang sa installation. Mayroon akong nabasa na nakakuha ang Binance ng approval sa India para maapprove na sila as a legitimate na register sa bansang India so, possible kung magiging ganito rin ang mangyayari sa Pinas dahil isa rin ang Pinas sa mga pinakamalaking users na bansa pagdating sa Binance, so for sure nakikita na rin nila ang pagbagsak ng users lalo na ngayon na nagsimula na magblock kahit papano ang SEC.
67  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: cashout or wait till the end? on: May 11, 2024, 10:46:23 AM
From the standpoint, I would pretty much cash out easily since its already a huge multiplier and probably a life-changing amount of money for me already but it would still depend on the situation, for some people 1.8 million probably is not a huge amount so it would make sense if they are going to try to win a higher more since 1.8 is very low if you are going to compare it to 31.

Still, the stake was just around 3k$ so this was a no brainer I would easily cash out, we all know this is just gambling in a nutshell we all know what is going to happen in the end if you get greedy, besides this is the thing that everyone is saying when it comes to gambling don't get greedy because you're surely going to end up losing it all. I mean it was pretty surprising already to make that 3k$ up to 1.8 million already I could imagine how many combos you gonna need for that, and it was really lucky already so it's a no brainer I would cash out in a heartbeat. Losing that 1.8 is just going to suck and probably not going to be healthy for your mental health  Grin.
68  Economy / Economics / Re: Our decision making is responsible for the outcomes in our ways on: May 11, 2024, 06:05:38 AM
I mean both have their points, It is not a good thing to not focus on your future, like savings, investments, insurance, etc. but at the same time if you are not going to get enjoyment at all it seems that there is no point at all to work if your not happy at all, you do work hard every day not just to survive but as well to buy something that you wanted, and eat something that you wanted, not just eating enough food. It just going to defeat its purpose or probably gonna be some kind of slave of money. In my opinion, the main issue here is buying something that you can't really afford, for sure there will always be limitations with that, I mean you surely could buy sometimes things and eat food that you want, but not really to the point where it just takes a huge percentage of your money or savings. Just like you said he's probably buying a lot of things that make him happy because he has money in his bank which I think is okay since he did have savings so he could buy things that he wanted.

Still buying things that you couldn't afford is going to be different because you are on the road to being broke meaning you're not saving anything, investing anything something like that because all of it is just going through spending, which is surely going to be a bad decision in the long run. If you want to achieve financial freedom, having a solid financial foundation is just really important, like savings, investment, insurance, and emergency funds. etc. As well as having assets and passive income. I mean you could get to the point where you could build your wealth if you are starting to earn already, but if spending all of it and not saving anything you surely not going to save anything in the end in your future.
69  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price predictions gone silence since the DIP. on: May 11, 2024, 04:28:27 AM
The promising approach about the rising of Bitcoin price seemly to have emotional influence on investors which at some points triggers market sentiments.

Who has observed that the speculations and predictions  of Bitcoin price has gone silence since the market went DIP after the halving?

After the Bitcoin Halving event the market usually undergoes to a certain drop, which actually happened but didn't really drop the huge amount that I was expecting, I mean the market price today was actually quite high but pretty much stabilized at that price range, this usually happened since the pattern in the Bitcoin halving timeline bullrun is gonna pop up in the next year, so the Bullrun was probably going to happen in 2025, that just means that there was no actual activity that is going to happen at this time, so investors and traders are just on holding period, no news is going to actually pop up at this moment since most of the traders are on hold and accumulation period. Still, there was for sure a lot of prediction and speculation still in this period but most of it expected the market to blow like next year or something not right now.

It's a good time to accumulate more Bitcoin since there was no hype in the market, when there is some movement and pump in the market for sure there will be a lot of speculations and predictions that is going to hype the market encouraging a lot of investors to invest on Bitcoin again. So accumulate Bitcoin now while its still a good opportunity because when the market start to pump its gonna be difficult to buy Bitcoin at a discount since it wasn't going to drop that easily.
70  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: 🔥 BC.Game - BTC Price Prediction ' May 26 | WIN $50! on: May 11, 2024, 01:43:56 AM
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71  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I hope I'm doing the right thing. on: May 10, 2024, 11:56:15 PM
How did you guys invest in bitcoin as beginners. What was your experience with the market volatility? A lot of people talk how investing in Bitcoin is good but risky, i don't want to rush to invest  bitcoin. I need to be very sure of what I'm planning to go into. I don't know if I am making the right decision or I'm too sluggish to invest. I'm not really convinced maybe because I don't know much. Do you think this delay is good for me? I believe it is good for one to be  sure and understand anything that involves money.

As long as you have the knowledge of investing and you think that you can handle it already start buying Bitcoin already, In my opinion, it is not great to delay buying since you're not really just going to buy a huge amount of Bitcoin in just one buy, most of the time we are going to buy small portion and start to accumulate Bitcoin. I mean its the most efficient way to do it is dollar Cost Averaging if you're familiar with it, start buying Bitcoin probably weekly or monthly consistently so that you can accumulate Bitcoin, it doesn't matter what is the price right now because as long as you are going to hold long term, and only sell on the top of the market you could always make a profit out of it. So for me start buying Bitcoin right now, Right now is the best time to start.

Make sure as well that your going to put it on a non-custodial wallet, the easiest wallet that is probably going to be suitable for newbies, is Electrum in my opinion as a newbie it is going to be a good start since it's easy to install and convenient for newbies, secure as well, open source etc. I mean just avoid putting your investment on a centralized platform like an exchanger, because you just don't have control over your investment on that platform at any moment they could freeze your account and there was nothing you could do about it, it already happened to me back in 2018 I think it was a local crypto wallet which is quite famous here in my country, I mean there was only a few choices and that time its the best wallet and exchange for convenient but they lock my account because I have transaction came from suspicious wallet which is mostly came from casino that time.
72  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What I experienced since the past two days now on: May 09, 2024, 05:37:14 PM
I mean pretty much most of the scammers and hackers are just like normal investors or people, you wouldn't really going to know if they are hackers or scammers since they not going to tell you about that, it's not like they are people that is not getting out of there houses, these people obviously blend in on other people and investors, probably even here right now there are probably a lot of scammers and hackers here we just doesn't know about it. I mean it wasn't like it is your fault for trusting him, the way I see it is you just trusted him since you think his a great Bitcoin investor which turned out to be wrong, I mean you have your experience on him and that turns out to be great that is why you vouched about him.

You could probably get involved there since you have a lot of conversations I suppose, and most of your conversations are probably about Bitcoin and investing as well, like you said you're the one who told him to store it on a hardware wallet. I guess the trick here is just to be anonymous and just not trust anyone because you just don't know it, I mean if you're actually sure about it that his not some kind of a scammer, I don't really recommend trusting anyone that you don't really know, I mean even though if it is your friend already don't fully trust them like getting or putting money on them.
73  Local / Pilipinas / Re: Mga crypto casinos na tumatanggap ng local wallet (GCash/Paymaya) on: May 09, 2024, 03:43:06 PM
Maganda sana ang mga ganitong integration dahil masmapapadali nga naman ang pagcashin naten ng pera pero isa sa mga kinakatakot ko dito ay yung nangyaring nakaraang insedente sa Gcash kung saan maraming nawalan ng pera dahil bigla na lang nagsend ang pera nila sa account na hindi naman nila kilala pero halos lahat ng mga nascam ay iisa lamang ang pinagsendan ng account meaning isa lamang ang salarin sa mga scam na nawawalang pera dahil isang account lang ang pinagsendan neto kung hindi ako nagkakamali sa BPI account yun nasend.

Ayun sa investigation sa pagkakaalala ko sa issue dahil daw yun sa mga nagkalat na mga online casino naprinopromote online, marami kasing mga users ang kinokonnect ang Gcash nila, kung hindi ako nagkakamali isa na dun ang Philwin, maraming nascam sa gcash sa pagaakala na kinokonnect kase nila ang Gcash nila at nakukuha ang information nila sa gcash kaya nagkakaroon ng access. I mean possible naman talaga yun lalo na at binibigay naten ang OTP kapag kinokonnect naten ang gcash.
74  Local / Pilipinas / Philippine peso Stablecoin on: May 09, 2024, 12:48:07 PM
Anong masasbi nyo dito mga kabayan naten? Nakareceived daw ng approval ang Coins.ph sa BSP para maglaunch ng Philippines Peso Stablecoin. Which is $PHPC sa darating na ito na June 2024 syempre dahil stable coin equavalent siya sa pera naten, meaning fully back up lang din naman siya ng Philippine Peso naten, I mean in the long run naman talaga maganda rin na magkaroon tayo ng sarili nating stablecoin dahil marami itong magagawa sa crypto space ng Pinas. Pero hindi lang din talaga ako tiwala sa government lalo na sa Coins.ph. Ano ba ito magrurug pull din ba itong stablecoin na ito  Grin Ano sa tingin ninyo mga kababayan magagamit ba naten ito?



Coins.ph Receives BSP Approval to Launch PHPC, a Philippine Peso-Pegged Stablecoin

Kung babasahin ninyo ang mga article ay marami na rin mga nagrumor na mga projects na maglalaunch ng stablecoin ng Pilipinas pero lahat ng mga ito ay na shut down, pero siguro pwede nating sabihin na maraming experience na rin ang Coins.ph at capable naman sila na maghandle pero kahit ganun centralize pa rin talaga ang platform nila and nakakatakot kung mayroon silang control sa mga ganitong bagay.
75  Economy / Economics / Re: Also consider your mental State of health while investing for wealths. on: May 08, 2024, 09:28:26 PM
I guess we just need to balance everything, it was just really depressing especially when we talk about money and financial things, there was anxiety especially if you saw some of your colleagues or college friends already doing well and your you felt like you not doing enough and still stagnant doesn't have any direction on your life, which is really frustrating and depressing. We always wanted to grind do business hassle and forget about our mental health I guess it is just very common for everyone.

In my opinion what we need is to balance our lives, like a work-life balance, I mean it's possible to have such good work, extra income, or create a business and at the same time have some time for yourself, or rest, have a vacation something like that, I mean it is all very stressful, and everyone just needed a rest something like that, do socialize, go out. Just putting everything on work is probably going to work but as mention, it wasn't going to be healthy, especially in the long term, you might probably earn a huge amount in the long run, but wasn't going to be worth it, we just need to systemize our time and  make everything worth its time, If you can finish your work at 6 hours try to finish it on 4 hours something like that.
76  Economy / Speculation / Re: LAST CHANCE TO BUY BITCOIN..... on: May 08, 2024, 12:55:45 PM
I mean it is surely a good time to buy Bitcoin since we did experience some correction in the market, but surely wasn't going to be the last chance to buy one even though the market skyrocketed, just basing on patterns if could probably expect more corrections in the coming months, I don't think it is going to start the rally yet since there was no great news that is going to be a catalyst for Bitcoin to skyrocket. Still if it start to gain momentum it would still take a year before the Bullrun so probably Bull market is going to be around 2025.

I always do Dollar Cost Averaging, I would agree that it is a good time to buy Bitcoin since there was no hype, but still the lower the market price the better, the market price is still around 63k$ which in my opinion pretty high, but will be worth it anyway as long as you are going to hold for long term, DCA lower the risk of investment, so the best time to buy Bitcoin is right now as long as you started to accumulate you could save a huge amount that it always going to be profitable if you sell in the top.
77  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] 562nd ฿ECAUSE I AM STILL IN A GOOD MOOD-CYPHER HODL LOADED ฿ALLET on: May 08, 2024, 11:06:34 AM
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78  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How active can a newbie be daily? on: May 08, 2024, 08:55:37 AM
I greet you all
You know when you come to a forum like this you need to first know the do's and the don'ts, the rules and regulations, and most especially how to grow, in life we all want growth to some certain extent the same thing applies to this forum, I ask most of my friends here how can a newbie grow on this forum, they all keep saying, if you want to grow you need to be active on the forum,

My question is what does it mean to be active on the forum,
How many quality Posts can someone make daily before he or she can be considered active on this forum, sorry I ask a lot of questions so u can learn too.



It would depend for sure, you can do pretty active for sure but just make sure that the post wasn't just trash because if you're going to do that surely you're going to be tagged as spamming in the end. If you really wanted to be active here in the forum I would say that around 7 or 8 posts per day are going to be considered as a very active member, there was no issue for sure if you are going to post more as long it is useful one or your just having conversations, I mean on normal days I pretty much just post around 2-5 post per day, there are for sure times where your having some problems on crypto spaces, so I needed to ask members here that would probably increasing my post, if I really wanted some answers I would engage more.

As a newbie I wouldn't really recommend posting a lot here in the forum since it would surely drain you in the long run, I mean it's not really easy to reply to everyone or create your own topic it would take time. What you should do is to focus on the quality of your post since it is more important than quantity, and probably would help you get merits as well in order to rank up here in the forum. Still, you're in a Bitcoin and crypto forum, what I always say is start investing and exploring the cryptocurrency space, and in your journey, you could use this forum in order to help you with anything as long as it is related, you don't really need to stress everything here discussions are just the important thing so that we can all learn.
79  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you trust bitcoin holders? on: May 08, 2024, 07:01:57 AM
I can't see how Bitcoin promotes anti-government and banks, I mean Bitcoin is just how it is, we can't change that for sure but It wasn't at all anti-government or anti-banks, probably it is just somehow opposite of it but I wasn't anti or something. We Bitcoin holders as well are not anti-government or anti banks but probably we just hate it since there were just too many things that weren't right at all, but still, we all have governments in different countries and we are a part of it, we use fiat system that's government and banks right. So we are supporting banks and government for sure, but there were just people on position on the government that is just wasnt doesnt the right thing that is why we hate it much, not to mention that the fiat system is just a huge scheme, but still it is what it is we just cant do anything about it the only thing we could do about it is to adjust on it.

Yes, I trust mostly a lot of Bitcoin holders that I know, but for sure there were some limitations on that, if you doesnt know someone then they not instantly going to earn your trust not just they are a Bitcoin holders, remember that there are a lot of scammers and hackers out there, if your install going to trust Bitcoin holders they will take advantage of you and scam you, so we always need to be careful on trusting anyone since hackers and scammers are probably investors as well.
80  Local / Pilipinas / Re: BTC scamming attempt gamit ang pangalan ni Raffy Tulfo on: May 07, 2024, 07:51:38 PM
I mean kahit na para saatin sobrang obvious na scam itong mga ganitong mga klase ng method, utang basa pa lang naten ay alam na agad naten ito, at sobrang suspicious na agad sa atin, pero marami pa rin talaga mga tao ang hindi aware sa mga ganitong bagay at madaling masilaw ng pera, kaya masmaganda talaga na kung papasok kaman sa crypto space ay ikaw talaga mismo ang gagawa ng sarili mong research at willing ka rin matuto tungkol dito, syempre willing ka rin maglaan ng oras dito dahil hindi naman talaga biro ang kakainin na oras dito sa pagiinvest naten.

For sure mayroon pa ring mga tao ang nascam ng project na ito, buti na lang kabayan at nasabihan mo ang kaibigan mo dahil kung hindi ay malamang ay sinubukan niya na rin ito, marami sa mga kababayan naten marinig ang ang pangalan ni Raffy Tulfo ay mabilis kaagad na magtitiwala kahit hindi naman naten naiintindihan kung pano ba umiikot ang pera sa business na pagginvestsan naten, isa sa mga tip ko sa mga papasok o nagbabalak maginvest ng pera, madali ninyong malalaman na scam ito kung ito ay too good to be true, madalas ay around 5% up month income o sobrang taas taalga ng return ng investment o ay scam talaga ang nangyayari kaya advice ko sa inyo ay alamin ninyo kung paano kumikita ang iniinvestsan ninyo kung sa tingin ninyo ay hindi posible ang kinikita o hindi kumikita ito ay isa na iyong sensales ng red flag.
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