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61  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 10, 2024, 01:47:19 AM
Roma is bad, and Rossi is overrated. It appears that Leverkusen will win their last game against Atalanta soon. I don't doubt it because Leverkusen is only getting better.

In my opinion, in this 2nd leg match, AS Roma game was not that bad. They had a chance when they able to scored 2 goals. However, when an own goal occurs, it seems like destroying the opportunity. An own goal that occurred 8 minutes before the end of regular time, had an effect on the players' mentality. It's proven when Leverkusen managed to add 1 goal in injury time and save the unbeaten record they have achieved so far.

Atalanta are definitely not favourites, I don't expect much in the final against Leverkusen. However, I still hope Atalanta will be able to become the team that manages to break Leverkusen's record. Such a mission impossible, but if it happens, both clubs still create their own history.
62  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Diskusi Liga Champion 2023/2024 on: May 09, 2024, 04:49:29 PM
Sekarang Real Madrid akan menghadapi Dortmund di final.
Final Champion League selalu sengit namun kita melihat secara realistis saja sekarang kalau kekuatan Real Madrid jauh lebih kuat di bandingkan Dortmund jadi saya cukup yakin kalau Real Madrid akan merebut gelar Champion League ke yang 15 nya dan harus di ingat juga kalau dalam beberpa musim terakhir kalau Real Madrid tidak pernah kalah di final, saya benar benar tidak meragukan mereka.
Jujur saja, Madrid terlalu superior di UCL, seandainya Dortmund tiba-tiba menjadi pemenang dalam laga ini, maka ini akan jauh lebih menyenangkan untuk saya pribadi. karena tim yang tidak difavoritkan menjadi juara itu memiliki kesan yang lebih menarik untuk saya. Dortmund membutuhkan strategi lebih dari sebatas bertanding selama ini. Jika misalkan Dortmund bisa menjadi juara, ini juga akan menjadi kenangan terindah bagi Reus yang akan pindah ke klub lain di akhir musim ini.
63  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Peoples expectations about casinos free spins on: May 09, 2024, 04:29:38 PM
-snip-
As far as I know, there are two models of free spins offered by the provider to their users. The first is free spins from deposit bonuses or cashback and the second is in-game free spins.

For free spins from deposit bonuses or cashback, of course users will not think about being able to get a big win from these free spins. Meanwhile, for every  in-game free spins are a hope for all gamblers. Because these free spins are obtained from betting results, the expectation of big win is definitely a hope when gamblers get these free spins.
64  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: May 09, 2024, 04:12:26 PM
Roma will end their Europa League journey today, since Leverkusen doesn't know whether they are playing away or home, they can beat their opponents anywhere. Even in their last Bundesliga game, I was shocked by the goals they scored against Frankfurt, the same team that defeated Bayern Munich this season. I believe if Leverkusen keep playing this way, they will win their treble this season.

This match is like a formality match. With an aggregate of 2 goals that AS Roma must meet, this becomes a mission impossible. Leverkusen, with its defensive strength in all competitions, made Roma opportunity to score 3 goals without conceding to qualify for the next rounds, look like they could not see this opportunity being obtained.

Of course, Roma must not give up even though they have to play for this mission. We know that luck exists, and we can already found the similar conditions from the many matches where the matches are more difficult than AS Roma, but the underdog can win the match beyond expectations.
65  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 09, 2024, 03:53:55 PM

If Bologna do not extend Thiago Motta's contract or perhaps, Thiago Motta will accept the offer of another team then I believe Thiago Motta's departure will have a bad impact on Bologna next season. Because after all, Thiago Motta's own contract expires at the end of this season and also, based on rumors circulating at least Thiago Motta is also targeted by other teams such as Juventus to replace Allegri's coaching chair. If that happens, then I'm sure next season Bologna will experience not good results because at least, Bologna's success has good performance and results this season because of Thiago Motta's success as a successful head coach for Bologna this season in Serie A.

Even though Bologna is ready to extend Motta contract, Motta will definitely start considering coaching another club. Not only Juventus has been linked with Motta, there is AC Milan who are waiting for confirmation from Porto coach Sergio Conceicao. If Porto is not willing to let Conceicao go, then the next Milan target is Motta.
66  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 09, 2024, 02:39:50 PM
Yes, if we talk about Dortmund's chances of winning the Champions League this season against Real Madrid, maybe it's only 10%, maybe on paper it could be like that, but in a football match, the match is decided on the field.
However, even though Dortmund's chances of winning the Champions League are small, we must not forget luck, it could be that for this season's Champions League final, Dortmund is the lucky one, even though we all know Real Madrid for what they have. he currently has, be it players, coaches, or even help. the referee will be hard to beat

Looking at Dortmund's achievements so far, it doesn't seem like they have a special appearance. However, so far Dortmund have shown us that they can play more than they can. Reaching the UCL final is not a coincidence or just a lucky but this is a results from their hard works so far. Well, no matter how small the chance is in the final, I think Dortmund can show a fighting without giving up on Madrid. Madrid is the king of the Champions League, it's normal if you or other say on paper, Dortmund only has a 10% chance of winning. Ancelotti is a maestro, it will not be easy for Dortmund to beat his tactics. Even though I like Ancelotti, but I'm tired of seeing Madrid win. LOL. Hopefully, this 10% can change anything for UCL this season.
67  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 08, 2024, 05:53:03 PM
Milan planned this because the club was performing so poorly this season. It's time for Acmilan to kick him out of the club. Pioli has no impact on his club. He's a flop now. Several years have passed, and he has not produced impressive results, as opposed to his rival, Simeone Inzaghi, who has consistently won numerous trophies even helped intermilan to leave from the financial problem through developing the talent then sell it.

I believe that the decision to recruit Conceicao is a gamble. Being successful at Porto may not be a good indicator of his suitability as a new coach for Acmilan and this can be the key point for milan to hold that decision. Milan must take careful consideration before hiring him as a new coach caused by the club must try to ensure the new coach will not be another flop. Porto has not yet given greenlight for him to leave. It's still a rumor.



one points that i notice, this season AC Milan seems to have the same pattern of play. I you are following the matches, you will see AC Milan's ineffective game strategy, which is showed by the players in every match. So, it is very normal for fans to protest against AC Milan management to immediately replace Pioli.

Conceicao has to solve many things if he becomes AC Milan coach. He must start by improving teamwork and also improvising the game, when AC Milan has difficulty scoring goals and must be have better starting XI than Pioli. The most important thing is also to be able to stop Inter's winning streak in the derby della madonninna. All of this will be new pressure and challenges for Conceicao. It won't be easy, but perhaps his reputation and history in the Portuguese league may or is expected to improve AC Milan.
68  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 08, 2024, 05:41:07 PM

I think we can't compare Mourinho and De Rossi at the moment, although mourinho was sacked because he was considered unsuccessful at Roma but although I think for now De Rossi can go in a better direction because of all Mourinho legacy in Rome, besides that I think Mourinho has more advantages because he is more senior than De Rossi in coaching a team so far,  So it is better for us to see how much De Rossi is capable of bringing Roma this season than we have to keep remember about what Mourinho has given  for Roma so far.

Even though Mourinho is a failed, at least he has given Roma the UEFA conference league trophy. Of course i know it is UEFA's lowest level competition trophy, but become a champion is still a title which is a part of success achieved by coaches and players. Mourinho failed to fix AS Roma in Serie A, but Mourinho has written his name in the history of the UEFA conference league competition already.
69  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Robot Trading, Menjanjikan Profit, Benarkah? on: May 08, 2024, 05:29:57 PM

Dalam hal ini jangan terlalu yakin bahwa robot trading ini akan mendatangkan keuntungan, itu tidak benar, dan bagi pemula sebelum terjun ke dunia profit perlu dipahami terlebih dahulu apa yang akan anda lakukan dan bagaimana hal tersebut bisa terjadi dan macam-macam, karena dengan robot ini bukan suatu yang menjanjikan.

Benar, sedari awal pengguna harus menyadari bahwa trading dengan kripto itu merupakan instrument investasi dengan risiko yang tinggi. kedua, penggunaan robot trading itu bukan semata-mata akan memastikan profit, namun sebagai alat bantu untuk beli dan jual. ketiga, robot trading dengan sistem open posisi dan tak profit ketika aset bertambah 10% itu akan terjadi jual dan tidak dapat diubah setelahnya. artinya, kita dapat kehilangan momen ketika terjadi pump.
70  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Mentalitas yang kuat juga diperlukan dalam trading jangka panjang on: May 08, 2024, 03:57:04 PM
Itu yang biasanya membuat trader jadi serakah Grin

Ketika harganya sudah mencapai ATH (baik itu ATH sementara ataupun ATH sesungguhnya), mereka masih menahan koinnya dan berharap ada ATH-ATH lainnya. Dan itu membuat mereka terlambat untuk menjualnya di harga ATH padahal jika mereka bisa bijak, mereka bisa mendapatkan keuntungan maksimal dengan menjual di harga ATHnya. Biasanya orang-orang akan mulai menjual ketika harganya sudah mulai menurun sehingga keuntungannya kurang maksimal. Tapi itu semua pilihan Grin

Sulit untuk menghindari godaan dari harga ATH yang sudah terlihat di depan mata. Kita malah menginginkan harganya untuk tetap naik lebih tinggi lagi padahal itu belum tentu terjadi. Yah, sepertinya kita harus benar-benar belajar untuk bisa melihat situasi dan kondisi supaya bisa mengambil keuntungan yang maksimal.

Tidak semuanya yang menahan saat mencapai ATH itu orang yang serakah sih mas. Ini tergantung pada tujuan dan manajemen trading dari masing-masing. Bagi sebagian orang, memilih untuk menjual di target tertentu sudah menjadi tujuan awal dalam strategi tradingnya. Hal ini dikarenakan mereka memiliki alasan untuk investasi jangka panjang hingga target tersebut terpenuhi. Tapi, kalau tujuannya adalah profit harian, sudah naik 50% namun tidak di jual karena merasa kurang, ini baru bisa digolongkan mereka yang serakah. Tujuannya jangka pendek tapi ngejualnya justru berharap bisa cuan lebih tinggi, dan panik saat koreksi dan mulai ngejual asetnya saat turun.
71  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 08, 2024, 03:45:07 PM
Many people underestimated Dortmund's chances of winning the semi-finals against PSG simply because the squad included so many unpopular names while dortmund has only one or two popular name on its squad. -snip-

I don't think it's underestimating, but discussing PSG's chances of winning. It is true that PSG is a club that has many star players, that's why people make PSG the favorite team to qualify for the UCL final. Underestimating is when someone says "Dortmund qualifying for the final is just a dream, a mediocre team" or other word that said if Dortmund is bad.

Meanwhile, in this forum, most of them including me, giving a comments about PSG's potential or opportunities which are considered better than Dortmund and maybe going to final. Moreover, the aggregate is only 1 goal, that should be able for PSG to scored more than 1 gol. But, in the end, all of us who thought PSG had a chance of getting to the final were wrong. Dortmund is better than PSG at the moment, and they are deserve to get a ticket to the UCL final, hard work since the group phase has giving good results until the semifinals already.
72  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Terima Kasih Trader, Pajak Crypto Terkumpul 112 Milyar Awal Tahun Ini Saja on: May 07, 2024, 05:35:01 PM
Beruntung Indonesia ramah dengan crypto karena diregulasi dengan rapi sehingga kita tidak khawatir, selama pajak yang kita bayarkan masuk untuk kepentingan pertumbuhan negara. Literasi crypto di negara kita cukup positif dan semakin hari semakin tidak asing di masyarakat. Hal ini juga semoga berdampak positif untuk ekonomi masyarakat yang mau mengikuti perkembangan teknologi. Mungkin tugas pemerintah harus lebih memperhatikan mengenai jangkauan internet ke pelosok pelosok karena itu juga bagian dari salah satu titik awal crypto bisa dikenal. Bagi saya tidak terlalu mempermasalahkan pajak crypto yang terkumpul selama itu memberikan pemasukan ke kas negara, hanya saja pelaksanaan dalam pendistribusiannya alokasi untuk masyarakat yang selalu tidak sesuai dikarenakan oknum oknum koruptor. Di sisi lain exchange lokal juga terus mendapatkan perhatian positif sebab peran mereka cukup penting sebagai jembatan awal dimana masyarakat bisa melakukan perdagangan dengan aman, yang terpenting top rank di OJK.

Penerimaan pajak kripto sejatinya di Indonesia ini bisa lebih besar mas, kalau mereka lebih ramah terhadap exchange dari luar negeri. Misalnya, seandainya Indonesia mengizinkan Binance, Kucoin, OKX membuka layanannya di Indonesia dengan syarat harus memasukkan pajak pada platform khusus untuk member yang terdaftar dari Indonesia, maka pendapatan pajak akan meningkat signifikan. Meskipun tidak memiliki data pasti, saya yakin ratusan member Indonesia itu memiliki aset kripto lebih dari 1 BTC di exchange luar. Misalnya, mas trading di Binance, apakah ada pajak untuk Indonesia? tentu tidak ada, karena saat ini pajak hanya diberlakukan di exchange lokal saja. Andai izin untuk exchange luar lebih mudah untuk direalisasikan, maka Indonesia memiliki pemasukan pajak kripto tidak hanya 100M mungkin bisa 2x lipatnya atau lebih.
73  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: [Diskusi] Santet = SCAM on: May 07, 2024, 05:24:41 PM
Kang bullshit maksudnya? Grin
Haha, jadi teringat tetangga saya yang kena diabetes, berobat ke dukun di palak Rp5juta baru-baru ini.

kalau ada kasus serupa yang katanya ditangani rumah sakit tapi "ga ketemu" penyakitnya, tetap usahakan balik lagi kalau masih sakit untuk dirujuk ke rumah sakit atau dokter spesialis yang lain yang terkait. Sekarang pakai BPJS bisa gratis.

Kadang ini anggota keluarga aja yang bilang ga ketemu penyakitnya, tapi kenyataannya adalah mereka (yang jaga pasien) ga aktif bertanya ke dokter yang nanganin dan dokternya ga ngasih penjelasan rinci.

Tetapi, kalau dari segi nalar, segala penyakit seharusnya diperiksakan melalui medis. tetangga saya terkena stroke, keluarganya meyakini kalau itu ada jin yang diam didalam tubuhnya, dikonfirmasi oleh beberapa dukun dengan tebakan yang sama "kejadian di tempat A, ngijak barang goib", al-hasil ga pernah dibawa ke RS saat awal kena stroke dan sampai akhir hayatnya tidak pernah menjalani perawatan medis, hanya pijet sana sini dan nyari dukun. Mau nyaranin ke medis pun akan percuma, karena sejak awal meyakini itu ulah jin.
74  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Max Win is the worst thing that could happen to you. on: May 07, 2024, 02:49:18 PM
I once did KYC on one of the platforms which simply used a cellphone number and email. With this KYC, I can make withdrawals of around a maximum of USD 6K. This is a large amount when referring to the currency value in my country. With this minimum KYC, in history, i already made a withdrawal (one time) $2K without any additional data needed.

If, the platform asks for full identity KYC, I will searching any info, whether the platform has experienced a user account data hack or not. If it doesn't exist yet and have good reputation to store customer data, then I will put my trust in carrying out full KYC. of course with all the risks, as long as the win is big enough or can change my life.

Usually, it is considered money laundering if you make a large deposit at once. But, I think if we get maxwin starting from a minimal deposit, like $50 you are so lucky getting $20K, there is no reason why our winnings should be called money laundering. IMO

Of course, this is from my perspective. I understand the dangers of doing KYC, but there is no solution to avoid full KYC for large amounts. Because on the other hand, companies also need customer data. either for verification or other needs.
75  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 07, 2024, 02:02:35 PM
RUMOR
Finally AC Milan will decide to replace Stefano Pioli. Previously it was rumored that AC Milan wanted Motta. However. According to Football-Italia.net, AC Milan is currently getting closer to Porto coach Sergio Conceicao. If we look at his coaching history, Conceicao has been quite successful in providing trophies for Porto, with 3 Portuguese League trophies (Primeira Liga) and several minor domestic trophies. Hopefully, with this good history, he will succeed in providing a trophy for AC Milan if this rumor comes true for next season.
76  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 07, 2024, 01:48:15 PM
Atalanta won the match and currently take the 5th position from Roma but with the same points (60).
The pressure is now more on Roma because they will have to win all the 3 remaining matches while at the same time hoping the other 3 teams (Juve, Bologna and Atalanta) lose some points.
Any scenario is still possible between these 4 teams to decide which teams that will take the 3 remaining UCL spots.
Juventus vs Bologna, Atalanta vs Roma <-- I think these 2 matches will be the key for which teams to take the UCL spots.


Yup, Atalanta managed to win the match with 2 goals in the 2nd half. Yesterday I only watched until the 35th minute, after which I fell asleep. With this victory, the opportunity for 4 teams to compete for (at least) 5th position will be even more interesting. However, if Bologna qualify for the UCL, this will be new history for them. Although it is likely that they will only survive in the group phase, but bologna to UCL this is an achievement that Serie A fans never expected before.

Another news, Thiago Motta is reportedly being targeted by Juventus. So, if Juventus loses in that match, it looks like the rumors that Juve wants to fire Allegri and replace him with Motta at the end of the season will come true.
77  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 07, 2024, 01:41:12 PM

That only happens if Dortmund does not score in the second leg but it sounds impossible to happen caused by dortmund is also equal to the PSG.

PSG has a longer rest period compared to Dortmund, this is can be an opportunity for PSG to do intensive training in order to improve their strategy and to cover weaknesses in the first leg 1. I can't say Dortmund won't be able to score goals, but I also won't say it's impossible for PSG can keep a clean sheet in this match and scored at least 2 goals. Everything is still possible.
78  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: May 06, 2024, 11:03:44 PM

I dont think PSG is gonna fail in two games in row, and also i dont think Bayern Munich can be the solid it was in Germany and also the lucky because they find two super fast goals who overthrow the whole game.
PSG only needs 2 goals against Dortmund to qualify for the final. However, this will be a game that requires a lot of effort. From the first meeting, PSG had difficulty winning, if this happens again, PSG will fail to reach the final. On the other hand, Dortmund has been a team that has not disappointed at all since the group phase and not based on luck as you said, i think. of course PSG aware of this. If you say it's impossible for PSG to lose twice, but for me it's very possible.
79  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: May 06, 2024, 04:27:59 PM
So lets say there are 4 matches only and they won it all and keep the other scenario the same, means that Juventus will still out from the top 5.
To be safe, Juventus needs to earn at least 4 points in their last 3 matches IMO
Correct me if I'm wrong.

Thank you for corrections, I think Atalanta also have 35 matches already. I'm not aware about their matches before. So, this condition can change everything for Juventus. 1 winning and 1 draw is a must from them to secure 5th positions. Will see current Atalanta matches vs Salernitana. So far Salernitana already scored 1 goal. If Salernitana can maintaim their winning, this will help Juventus going to UCL next season.
80  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: [Diskusi] - Semua Tentang Ibu Kota Negara (IKN) Indonesia on: May 06, 2024, 04:00:41 PM
Memang peran aseng ini sangat besar di pemerintahan Indonesia ini,paling utama nya dalam segi modal/cuan aseng sangat lah kuat jika dibandingkan Indonesia memang belum bisa,maka dari itu ya kekewatiran masyarakat pasti timbul di sini dan pastinya menjadi was-was cemas,karena biasa nya aturan pemerintah Indonesia dengan aturan orang-orang aseng sudah pasti sangat lah berbeda,seperti saat ini saja kita tinggal di Indonesia lahir pun di Indonesia tapi jika mau melamar kerja sangat lah susah sampai persyaratan pun sangat menyulitkan, mungkin ini juga bisa dibilang aturan orang aseng tersebut.

maka dari itu, kita tidak bisa langsung mengatakan "Indonesia pro aseng", karena emang sudah kodratnya kita ini butuh investor aseng. Ga butuh aseng, kita mungkin ga kenal internet dan kita tidak tahu smartphone itu kek gimana. Wong bisnis dengan aseng itu perlu untuk mendapatkan cuan bagi pemerintah. Masyarakat pun juga butuh aseng untuk mencapai ekonomi yang lebih baik di Indonesia, agar lapangan kerja mencukup kebutuhan.

orang luar mudah mendapatkan kerjaan? lalu apa masalahnya? mereka mendapatkan tempat karena perusahaan yakin bahwa orang aseng ini bisa transfer ilmu ke Indonesia.Atau jelasnya, orang aseng lebih fokus dan disiplin. Jika Indonesia ingin tenaga kerjanya disiplin diperlukan pemantapan skill dan kedisiplinan. Pemerataan yang dimulai dari IKN ini menjadi salah satu tujuan utama agar dapat menumbuhkan ekonomi agar warga lokal mendapatkan pekerraan.
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