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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: December 04, 2017, 07:00:46 PM
Seriously... I don't get why OTN get's so much flack on here. A lot of people just spreading FUD. And shamefully successful looking at the recent OTN price. I'm sorry, but if you were not able to make money from OTN then maybe this investing game or trading is not for you. This stupid talk is all over the IQ chatrooms as well.

People on here with hundreds of OTN (or even thousands) and complaining about it.. LOL gimme a break. You could have been smart and sold a portion to get your initial investment back and hold the rest for long term all through 2018. If you did not take this sort of action in hope and greed of the price soaring ever higher on such a short term then you only have yourself to blame.. You could have covered your initial investment expenses and hold a great deal of OTN for the future, but now you are down in the minus numbers.. And now you cant help but come online everywhere and spread FUD and bad stories about OTN only shooting yourself in the foot more, because a lot of people now believe those stories and are 'dumping' their OTN as soon as they get them..

This is for whomever the shoe fits.

And please Block Chainy leave this thread because your ip andress where you write is same of OpenOTN


Lol, you are delusional mate..
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: December 04, 2017, 04:05:43 PM
Seriously... I don't get why OTN get's so much flack on here. A lot of people just spreading FUD. And shamefully successful looking at the recent OTN price. I'm sorry, but if you were not able to make money from OTN then maybe this investing game or trading is not for you. This stupid talk is all over the IQ chatrooms as well.

People on here with hundreds of OTN (or even thousands) and complaining about it.. LOL gimme a break. You could have been smart and sold a portion to get your initial investment back and hold the rest for long term all through 2018. If you did not take this sort of action in hope and greed of the price soaring ever higher on such a short term then you only have yourself to blame.. You could have covered your initial investment expenses and hold a great deal of OTN for the future, but now you are down in the minus numbers.. And now you cant help but come online everywhere and spread FUD and bad stories about OTN only shooting yourself in the foot more, because a lot of people now believe those stories and are 'dumping' their OTN as soon as they get them..

This is for whomever the shoe fits.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 30, 2017, 06:03:38 PM
You won't believe it, but I could've cashed out 40 000 EUR, and yet didn't. I think this can be greate than 50 eur a coin. By the way, how will the airdrop work? More info please!

You are right.. I don't believe it..  Tongue
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 30, 2017, 02:58:26 PM
I think that Otn will never see the old values ​​again, and that he will fall even more every week. I have 110 nominations, 10 days await but I will sell it and I will never take care of otn again. I have not seen anything in such a ridiculously depressed way.

If its not pnd, tokens usually reach ath again and then some

Hold and hold is the secret to win and be rich........anybody can know what happen in the future...all project have a roadmap and need time to release.....wallet.....trading exchange and more......buy now wait 2/3 year and come back to sell at price over 1000$, if somebody want buy one crypto for 1 dollar and after one week sell for 50.....i'm sorry but you need to be really lucky or look all news,study project and contribute for get the project jump.
OTN is really good project and cool advantage to get token for free if you trading with IQoption ......only one problem we see before is 1,2 milion token fly in the market, but Iq or who send this big quantity think same same all people..........sell and get profit.

Many token or coin can fly fast and some need long time.........ethereum stuck for over three month 250/300 dollar and last time see 520.......santiment go from 0,20 to 1,40 boom......relax and wait see OTN fly back to new record soon.

Maybe Santa Claus on 25th december buy token and they fly over 58$ same before or maybe IQoption sell again 1,2 milioni token and OTN go back to 1 dollar.........ehheehhee him sorry funny but it's really



Regarding the 1.2 million tokens...

Do not forget that there were traders on IQ who got 30.000 to 40.000 OTN's through their trades in the first week (because they were really easy to get in the first emission week). If a few of those guys decided to cash out.. then that would also be a significant volume.

I mean... they prob payed a few thousand in commission and ended up with 10.000 or so OTN's... after a few weeks OTN rises to nearly $60,- You think those guys are gonna let a couple of Hundred Thousand $ pass them by..?
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 30, 2017, 11:29:10 AM
I think that Otn will never see the old values ​​again, and that he will fall even more every week. I have 110 nominations, 10 days await but I will sell it and I will never take care of otn again. I have not seen anything in such a ridiculously depressed way.

And THAT my dear fellow humans is why OTN price is dropping like it is..  People thinking short term like this.. panicking and then selling off at increasingly lower prices...

And you come here asking why the price is falling..(with all due respect)
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 29, 2017, 07:19:26 PM
There are still about 19'600'000 tokens for iq traders. And they will give a way them in next about 100 weeks. So: 19'600'000:100 = 196'000 per week. So i think some weeks they will give more then like this week just 30'000 right?

Yeah, that's one thing I don't understand about the distribution on the IQ platform: If they are decreasing the emission by about 25.000 each week then how are they going to stretch that to 100 weeks of distribution??
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 29, 2017, 09:55:37 AM
it still continues to fall. I do not think this is the current value. when will it recover? Does anyone have an idea?

A lot of people who got their OTN's from trading through IQ Option are 'dumping' them on to the market (a lot of them don't see the value), selling them quickly to get back the commissions they payed for their trades.

That will soon taper off though, because every week the OTN's will be getting harder and harder to come by through trading on the IQ Option platform. The amount of OTN's that get emitted through the platform gets less and less every week. Meaning everyone will be having to pay more and more commission (relatively) to obtain 1 OTN. So much so, that they would be better off buying them in the exchanges.

I believe that's when we will see the end of the price drop.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 29, 2017, 08:24:15 AM
Link from IQ?
Dont think so. Why you cannot google it?

https://iqoption.com/en
Why is this so hard for everyone?
The site has been registered with the EU for 3 years. They trade 500 funds and are always expanding. They sponsor an Aston Martin race team. They have custom trade software built for the user to simplify trading and research.  They were fined 180k pounds and paid it.
If people still really think that IQ is a sham then you should not be trading Crypto.... Any one you pick could be a scam 10x more than this.

Excactly! So many Crypto scams out there. Many very obvious ones. Yet they try to mark this one as a scam and try to FUD. You guys really think that IQ Option wants to end their business by being involved with a massive scam?

I may not agree with some of their business practices, but they are in business alright. And quite well indeed. They want to be in business for some very long time to come. THat is why they are now expanding into Crypto asset trading. Because taht will secure there business for some time to come.
69  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: crypto Currency is making people millionaires all over the world on: November 27, 2017, 02:26:36 PM
Millionaires are only those that invested a lot in cryptocurrencies and traded already on the traditional exchanges or those, who bought Bitcoin in 2009 and holded it all the time Smiley

The sum of money made in selling the dream usually surpasses the sum of money that is made by the few who actually achieved the dream.
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 27, 2017, 02:21:24 PM
This is what I got from their Medium channel: "For now we know that OTN should be listed on Bittrex by mid December, but we can not state the exact date yet. Please join us on Telegram https://t.me/opentn to get updates asap."

I think by the end of this year OTN value will be looking very good. And just wait till the platform launch in 2018..
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 27, 2017, 12:28:39 PM
check the moscow new today and read about the scam and the qi end on 2 December I told you before when it was 0.0035 now is 0.002 you will lose all money soon so much manipulation my friend who had an IQ account lost so much the last week until he is now on windrow his all founds if he will be able to get them back or is too late he paid the 10 % spread and the 10 commission that they take and give you this bs coin back that by the end of the weack was lower then what he paied . that is the only thing it gives value to this coin, not their fairytale program. after 2 December this coin will be worth 1 cent if it is lucky

Give up mate.. your FUD is not working.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 26, 2017, 06:52:25 PM
don't you people read the news ? iq is under investigation and all there founds will be sized on 2 of december iq otn same guys scaming ppl insted of puting your money on bitcoin or eth dash you put on a fantezy coin that will ruin you

Do you have any source you can link to? Or are these mere empty allegations..?
Well, try to cash out with this coin. See how it goes.


What's the problem then? And by the way OTN's are Tokens (for now) Send me over some tokens and I'll show you how to cash out no problem. I'll even make a video and everything...

Get your own tokens, you poor guy.
I know how the process goes but Livecoin wont let me withdraw. Allways something, even though in every other exchange all goes fine. And no way in hell i'd use that ghetto YoBit.
OTN, livecoin etc are all Russians, i shouldve known better. If they were, say Germans, id put all my savings immiadetly to this. But Russians, damn. You cant trust them.

Some real first world problems you got there mate.. paying $0,89 per token and having a thousand of them. You can turn that 890,- you spent into 50.000,- in no time at all... yet you come here and complain about how you are so bad off, or you are being scammed... really?
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 24, 2017, 07:00:10 PM
don't you people read the news ? iq is under investigation and all there founds will be sized on 2 of december iq otn same guys scaming ppl insted of puting your money on bitcoin or eth dash you put on a fantezy coin that will ruin you

Do you have any source you can link to? Or are these mere empty allegations..?
Well, try to cash out with this coin. See how it goes.


What's the problem then? And by the way OTN's are Tokens (for now) Send me over some tokens and I'll show you how to cash out no problem. I'll even make a video and everything...
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 24, 2017, 04:11:07 PM
don't you people read the news ? iq is under investigation and all there founds will be sized on 2 of december iq otn same guys scaming ppl insted of puting your money on bitcoin or eth dash you put on a fantezy coin that will ruin you

Do you have any source you can link to? Or are these mere empty allegations..?
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 24, 2017, 02:44:39 PM
As to the exchange time, the automatic order matching engine will link the 2 parties instantly and the rest of the process should take no longer than any regular purchase on an exchange. So from the point of view of a person placing the order, it's actually going to be just as fast or even faster than if he was simply purchasing the other currency.

Now, as to the protection against volatility, the value of assets is going to be fixed at the time the exchange is initiated, so even if for some reason the exchange was to fail, both parties would get exactly what they invested.


Awesome! I, for one am exited for this project. It's one of the 3 major ones out there that will launch with this concept. And I think this one has a very high chance of succeeding. Ofcourse there is room in the world of Exchange for a hand full of big players and I think OTN will be in that hand full.

76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 24, 2017, 12:49:42 PM

HOW WILL ASSETS BE EXCHANGED CROSS-CHAIN VIA OTN

People always ask us “How exactly will assets from different Blockchains be exchanged via the OTN?”.
To answer this question in the clearest way we’ve prepared a video explanation.




That sounds really interesting. So by employing the OTN tokenized system, the amount of (say Bitcoin) you exchange will retain the value that it has at the moment you start the exchange order? To protect you from any market volatility that might happen during the time of the exchange?

Kind of like Utrust's approach.. only they convert straight to Fiat to protect against market volatility during exchange..

Kybernetwork is another upcoming solution that is kind of like this. They don't hold users funds during the exchange or transaction. Does OTN hold your funds during the transaction?

What kind of speeds kan we expect in regards to exchange times?
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 23, 2017, 02:38:33 PM
You've been telling everyone that these tokens can be sold at livecoin. I have not read anywhere even one person actually getting their money out from there.


Hello Hibe, did you get my PM?  Cool
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ICOrating - Rating agency for ICO-market on: November 22, 2017, 03:19:15 PM
how do we know icorating does not take money from ico's? is there any info about this?

Thanks for the great question. We position ourselves as an unbiased ratings agency for the cryptocurrency market, similarly to S&P or Moody’s in that matter.
 
We provide an investment rating for projects after conducting thorough in-depth analyses of more than 200 various project parameters. Each project assessment takes the resources and time of our analytics team of more than 50 employees.
 
Similar to S&P and Moody’s, projects pay us to assess their efforts. But the fact that we receive an assessment fee does not affect the tone and score of a rating in any way. An in-depth 25+ pages report contains detailed information, which forms the basis for our overall ranking decision, and each investor can assess our analysts’ explanations and the raw data that back these decisions.
 
This prevents potential biases in project scores that we assign. The high precision of our 2016-2017 forecasts, both positive and negative - confirms this.



Thanks for answering. It's good that you publicize those reports. That is at least far better than any ICO rating site out there now. I wouldn't say it makes the organisation uncorruptable thoug... we all know what happend with Moody's  Tongue
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 21, 2017, 02:29:50 PM
Guys... it's just the market being the market. Is everybody really surprised by heavy price swings when it comes to crypto? Or did you really believe it would keep mooning for 1 year straight without any corrections?
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [Ann] [OTN] Open Trading Network | OTN Token | Uniting the crypto world on: November 21, 2017, 10:37:41 AM
Need Help =(

For 2 weeks I'm waiting for latest withdrawl of my Tokens but this time it hasn't worked.

This is the Transaction

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x8b7f898f74a04ff1b5c0c2e78801c793e7a5237820c17a33336c505cd7d5be85

Where are the Tokens and what happened ? not enough Eth in the wallet ?



How many tokens were you trying to transfer? Seems like you have 0.05545925 Ether in your wallet. Should be enough to carry quite a bit of tokens over in 1 txn. Where you transferring from your IQ option accoutn to your MEW or from and Exchange to your MEW?
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