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61  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: February 02, 2022, 05:48:21 PM
ANYONE FROM STAKE CAN YOU PLEASE ADDRESS MY PROBLEM? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0




OR JUST ADMIT YOU SCAMMED
62  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake.com retard support staff/ poor support SCAM on: February 02, 2022, 03:00:17 PM
I've personally looked into this. User could not provide a clear screenshot of some relevant and easy to find information, even when we've linked him to the exact URL needed to find the information. Therefore, we sadly had to decline his request.

Would you like to help me as well? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0

Or you gonna let it be because that earn you $70k?
63  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 02, 2022, 02:59:05 AM
I see these threads from time to time and just have to wonder - do gambling sites in general just do selective scamming when they know they know they can get away with it using [insert TOS reason here] or whatever? Pretty sad, glad I don't gamble or sell my sig for gambling site (spam) posts.. Roll Eyes

Sounds super frustrating, good luck op

So they are also coming after you with this "multi-accounting issue". It's so fucking funny when their biggest streamers talk AND SHOW it live on twitch how they play with different accounts for different "seeds", lol.

jesus, that's fucked. Huh

The license provider offers them complete control and audacity to even scam anyone and nothing would happen.

On the talk of gambling signatures, I would be more than willing to rent your signature if you can help spread awareness about the stake scam. I can pay decently too not that you need but just in case.
64  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 02, 2022, 02:26:15 AM
So they are also coming after you with this "multi-accounting issue". It's so fucking funny when their biggest streamers talk AND SHOW it live on twitch how they play with different accounts for different "seeds", lol.



They even allow VPN but don't believe two people might be using the same VPN and hence have the same IP address. And oh, all these problems show up once you win, when you are losing you can have 100 accounts Smiley

I can legit show them players with more than 1 account and they will just ignore it
65  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 10:54:15 PM
-snip
you might as well post on their ANN thread regarding your case. though there is no guarantee stunna might be able to shed some light on your issue. and hopefully, speed up the process of whatever issue they think you have.

They are refusing to tell me anything and even ignoring the emails now. I believe yes they are investigating the matches because they feel some games had issues .. not sure what it means but what baffles me is that they are allowing me to gamble (yes I can gamble right now) but won't let me withdraw.
that's frustrating

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More than frustrating it's illegal I think to allow a player to gamble while blocking their withdrawals. It's simply leading/forcing the player to lose his money through gambling. If a player has breached any terms they must NOT be abe to gamble and/or withdraw but allowing gambling means they do believe the funds belong to me because I can only gamble with my "own" money right?
66  Other / Meta / Re: Sorry if I hurt some mods but care to explain? on: February 01, 2022, 10:52:00 PM
You broke rule number 32. (Click here to read forum rules.)
Making multiple posts in a row is not allowed. If you want to reply to different users at a same time, make all of them in a single post. 
According to Loyce.club, the deleted post had been made just after another post of yours and that's probably why it has been deleted.


Loyce.club

Thanks for the answer but I would have suggested merging of the posts. Nonetheless, I am satisfied that was the reason and locking the thread now.
67  Other / Meta / Sorry if I hurt some mods but care to explain? on: February 01, 2022, 09:43:08 PM
Stake has frozen my account about which I created a thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0

I stated facts and during the discussion on thread, I asked if stake only freezes accounts of winning players or actually informs the losing players as well because if they feel a game was rigged then losing players must be refunded as well, if winning players are being rekt.

Now some moderator was hurt by this or what happened, my post was deleted. Can anyone help me understand where did I got it wrong?

Deleted post - https://prnt.sc/26n3tej
68  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 09:40:31 PM
A moderator even deleted my message , not sure why they would do it? https://prnt.sc/26n3tej

I just made a valid point that if they are blocking winning players are they also refunding the losing players as well, did I went off topic or anything?
69  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: February 01, 2022, 08:05:35 PM

They can do races with $10000000000 prizes but we would never know if the races are real because some abcdefgh will make an account on the last day and wager 1 trillion to earn $10k on the races Smiley

I cannot trust them at all because they are holding $70k from me and how would you believe the races are real if they don't have $70k to pay the players

Well, about Races, I agree with you. But, it's only a guess. We don't have proof or documents of that claims. So, I guess it's an open secret.

About holding $70K from you. Could you please explain more? I didn't get what you just said. Do you claim that they scam you? Or are they holding it for other reasons? Or, is it pending? $70K is not a joke. Let us know about your accusation. I don't think stake going to something with your $70K, but, who knows?
Anyways, I would like to hear more from you regarding this $70K holding.

Please check the thread  - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0

They have scammed me for $70k .. no other way to put it really
70  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 08:03:38 PM
Smh... I just signed up here after reading this because the exact same thing happened to me today.
I was told to wait 3 business days without any explanation on why my withdrawals were suddenly disabled.  Cry

I deposited so much funds and lost them all but managed to win it back with my last funds from +30k down to 5k and then back up to 30k before my withdrawals were disabled.
So I am just waiting now for the support to get back to me to understand any of this because this is just brutal I literally took all my remaining funds which are now locked.

So I hope you will get soon some clarity on your case which would maybe also help with mine to understand what is going on because I also play for +2 years without any type of issue.  Huh

Create a scam accusation thread please because while I appreciate you stating the problem here, it won't help your case
71  Economy / Gambling / Re: Primedice.com | 8 Years of Dicing | 90 Billion Bets | 113 BTC Jackpot! on: February 01, 2022, 07:03:39 PM
Hi Primedice, just wanted to ask if someone hits the jackpot which I heard was massive, do you ask the user for KYC and delay his withdrawal for months just like your sister site stake.com does?

Harassing users is not a great idea and if you don't have the funds to pay the players, please don't allow them to gamble big or reduce the limits. Advertising millions of dollars on the line and then struggling to pay the the player shows how incompetent your casino (partner) is
72  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 06:32:44 PM
Everything looks clean to me.

I hope they will resolve the problem.

They are trying to force me into gambling away the funds but to anyone here from stake " I WILL NOT GAMBLE AWAY THE FUNDS, PLEASE STOP WASTING TIME"
73  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: February 01, 2022, 06:27:01 PM
-snip-
More than 10,000 people everyday.

Also, they add more streamer the income is really good ~XD Some of streamer from "Roobet" is also starting to moving into stake, so basically they really have a good earning and can make other streamer switch into them.

To be honest, stake don't really need streamer promotion at all from my perspective.

You don't get the maths here. They pay streamer funds they can only wager but cannot withdraw as most casinos do and later 90% of the races are won by streamers and 10% by last-minute "aabbccdd" type of racers so they end up paying little to nothing, if you get what I am saying
74  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 06:00:27 PM
Player in question here (hello btw, been a while!) has not literally lost $10 million, he has turned over a total of $10 million, which, depending on game(s), will still always require lots of money but nowhere near 10 million. Smiley

Correct, wagering $10 million means I have made bets equating to a total of $10 million. Loss and profits are irreverent to be honest but I mentioned platinum 6 because I wanted to make sure readers know I am not an inactive nor a new player (registered in early 2018)

On a side note, great to see you Efi and I am glad we have that section at gosu now where players can submit big wins and stuff Smiley


$70 k is definitely a big amount when it comes to withdrawals and unfortunately, we all know... casinos even when making shit tons of money, are never happy about such withdrawals. Still, I am curious to learn what Stake has to say on the matter. Most of the time (experience), there are two sides to almost each story. I will also hit up my contact person.

What concerns me is that they pretend to give away millions of dollars even though there are legit concerns over players joining within the last few days with usernames like "aabbccdd" and wagering billions but when it comes to paying a player winning $50k they are blocking withdrawals and forcing me to gamble away the funds, which is a cheap tactic used by cloudbet and few others, looks like stake got inspired by them lol








Can you post the bets that set off the red flags?

The day prior to my account being blocked, I made some 25 bets on different games ranging from sports to e-sports so I am not sure which game they are doubting and they aren't telling me. Please tell me how would I know?

Can you post screenshot of your sportsbets? It's easy to identify if some of them could be suspicious.

If you read the previous replies, I have clearly mentioned that I made 25-50 bets within the last day and all of them were big so I don't know if posting bets will help at all.

Here's the last page of bets I made after which all this happened - https://prnt.sc/26n192l

NOTE: I placed several of these bets on other sites like sportsbet etc and they NEVER had any issues paying out. And if someone doesn't know, they both have the same odds provider for sports.


[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
75  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: February 01, 2022, 02:43:33 PM
Stake.com has increased their daily race prizes to $100k from $10k! This is not a joke! I can't imagine how much profit Stake making everyday that they can take such decision. Nowadays, the number of online users always staying around 10k at Stake. I think it is a good move from Stake team. The prizes will be shared among the top 5k users everyday.



They can do races with $10000000000 prizes but we would never know if the races are real because some abcdefgh will make an account on the last day and wager 1 trillion to earn $10k on the races Smiley

I cannot trust them at all because they are holding $70k from me and how would you believe the races are real if they don't have $70k to pay the players
76  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 09:34:26 AM
Can you post the bets that set off the red flags?

The day prior to my account being blocked, I made some 25 bets on different games ranging from sports to e-sports so I am not sure which game they are doubting and they aren't telling me. Please tell me how would I know?

Can you post all communications with them, with any sensitive info blacked out?  I'll quote them, or someone else can, to embed the images.

The biggest problem has been that they aren't communicating at all. I message support and push them but they say integrity team will contact me and from the integrity team they have only sent me 2 replies  within 1 month period, both of which I have posted in OP

It's not a lie.  I know several people who were KYCed because they thought they were from the United States.  All of their accounts were put into withdraw only mode until documents were approved.

I would be curious to know why I was treated differently then and I can confirm you I can bet even now but NOT able to withdraw. I'll attach some proofs below.

Not able to withdraw - https://prnt.sc/26mu3p4

Able to bet - https://prnt.sc/26mu431 (made the bet as I was typing here .... UTC time 9:30 am, 1st Feb 2022)


The only complaint I know of where someone can't withdraw and isn't being investigated for somehow cheating is because he has less than the minimum to cash out.

It is weird this guy says he's allowed to gamble, maybe because his documents were approved I guess.

The documents are still pending, I can confirm and since you won't trust me, added a screenshot again below

Pending KYC - https://prnt.sc/26mu4ur

Would be highly thankful and appreciate if you can somehow ask them to have a look.
77  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 04:09:35 AM
First of all you need to calm down since stake reputation is pretty solid here so they will answer your issue properly. Its normal that a Casino will will investigate account if you win big since its very rare for a player to have that luck unless they are doing something to rigged the system.

Its a good thing that you post your concern so that stake can easily spot it and address the issue properly.

Steve will definitely answer on this thread.

Steve, I believe represents sportsbet.io and not stake. And to be honest, I am patient for the last 30 days but there has to be a day when I lose my patience and call them out, that is today.

It's rare for a player to win big unless they are rigging the system? Bro are you serious! Smiley

(someone making an account 5 days before a million dollar race with the username abcd and wagering millions is what I believe falls under rigging, but let's not bring it up)
78  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 03:56:52 AM
Somehow I managed to win a huge amount and now the ODDS PROVIDER is doing some investigation related to the integrity of the matches.
sorry, I am not much of a sports bettor so this might be a stupid question. are they(the odds provider) saying that the matches could have been rigged and are now investigating the matches? also, what is the process or how are they gonna investigate it?

They are refusing to tell me anything and even ignoring the emails now. I believe yes they are investigating the matches because they feel some games had issues .. not sure what it means but what baffles me is that they are allowing me to gamble (yes I can gamble right now) but won't let me withdraw.
79  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - Most Popular Crypto Casino & Sportsbook - Watford & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: February 01, 2022, 03:09:41 AM
Blatant scam by stake, please anyone playing here MUST READ this - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383835.0
80  Economy / Scam Accusations / Stake holding my balance $70,000 claiming ODDS PROVIDER INVESTIGATION on: February 01, 2022, 03:04:22 AM
Latest Update

KYC TEAM asked for selfie holding the document and after I provided them with it, now I am told that no I cannot submit anything because I submitted fake documents earlier. Is this some joke? Why they asked for selfie if I WAS BANNED FROM DOING KYC?

After trolling me for 1 month now they are saying this - https://prnt.sc/26noa86

Obviously, the data I entered is correct, I don't understand what they need?

On further asking to support, I have got a legendary reply - https://prnt.sc/26noawv

"Hey there.
You will no longer be able to send any of your documents and your account will remain restricted."




Interesting

They don't know the reason for the delay but expect me to know the reason and it's been 1 month and more already.

https://prnt.sc/26noicb




'm playing at stake.com since 4 years and never had issues, well, because I was losing money.

Somehow I managed to win a huge amount and now the ODDS PROVIDER is doing some investigation related to the integrity of the matches.

Facts

- Submitted KYC (asked after winning big) pending/under review for more than 1 MONTH NOW
- I'm a platinum 6 player (which is achieved after wagering more than 10 million dollars)
- My monthly bonus was taken away but fine bonuses are at their will so I'm not complaning.
- The VIP host and everyone else I know said "sorry we cannot do anything". I don't know what's the use of having a VIP host if they cannot even help you with such things. A robot can give out reloads and bonuses if that's what they are meant to do.
- Support said, sorry we cannot help
- I am NOT allowed to withdraw BUT ALLOWED TO GAMBLE.

This is done so that I gamble away my funds while they delay the withdrawal needlessly. I would love to ask them "how is a player allowed to gamble normally but NOT allowed to withdraw the balance?"

After more than 1 month of waiting, I have no option but to create a scam accusation here.

Some proofs below

Them claiming they are investigating some integrity issues - https://prnt.sc/26mp7uf

NO ETA AT ALL - https://prnt.sc/26mp847

This means the odds provider can take years and stake will simply let the player suffer even if the odds provider doesn't have a reason or timeline

IF YOU PLAY AT STAKE .. YOU ARE AT RISK OF LOSING MONEY TO THE ODDS PROVIDER BECAUSE THE ODDS PROVIDER MAKES THE FINAL CALL AND STAKE IS BARELY A MEDIATOR EARNING COMMISSIONS BUT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE PLAYER IF ODDS PROVIDER DECIDES TO SCAM.

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