Any particular reason you deleted my post? I would have edited out the captcha part if you had just asked. I feel my other points were valid and politely articulated.

There is such a thing? I can't imagine people are dumping loads of money into mining equipment still. With the recent crash of BTC and the steadily declining value of altcoins, it's a loosing proposition. 

Not to mention that although customers only pay BTC equivalent in DOGE or LTC, I still have to pay .3% exchange fees and a .0005 withdrawal fee, adding more of a loss just to accept different payment types.
Obviously I don't do withdrawals every day due to the fee, but IMO, altcoin prices should at minimum be set to the 'sell' exchange rate. Ideally, it'd be the exchange rate + 1% to cover fees. As it is now, it's just the highest buy price, which may be only a very small buy order at that price. By the time Cryptsy credits your deposit and posts the order to sell, the rate has moved and you can no longer get the same BTC value for your payment.

Log out and log back in. Does it still work for you? It seems to me that his web developer isn't updating his local copy of the captcha config. Everytime they push an update out, captcha breaks, then it gets fixed a while later.

Seriously, how many spam bots are being written to get into leaserig? In this case, captcha is a solution in search of a non-existent problem.

Ever since Miaviator took over the website, I have to log in like 4-5 times a day and I often can't log in at all. Say what you will about djezo but at least I could access my damned rig without it being a headache.

Edit: Whatever... Someone fixed it after I posted. 15 attempts before I complained I couldn't log in, 30 minutes after I posted, I logged in on the first try.  

That's what LTC is for; a poor man's BTC. 

Are ping replies disabled to leaserig.net? I'm having some trouble with my connection to leaserig.net according to LRP, but the web front end works fine. I'm trying to troubleshoot the problem.

10 minutes into being connected to your service:



Initial diff is 1024. Getting a 33% Reject rate, one of my 25 gridseed rigs is producing entirely rejects. Literally after 15 minutes of mining it hasn't produced a single accepted share. Switch to a regular pool though, 99% accepted. I've mined on pools with 2048 Diff and not seen rejects like this.

Lemme guess, my rigs are overclocked, overheated, or misconfigured? Can't possibly be a bad pool or config on your end, but hey who cares in it's on my dime right?  

I'll adjust the diff and try again.

What is the bug in CGMiner 3.7.2 that you refer to? That is the only thing I can think of that is causing this.

As distasteful as it is, you need only to look at the headlines, the price of BTC/USD and see how important China is. The new coming out of Asia is directly affecting my finances. To me, that makes China important.

That said, I will be glad when they exit the market and bottom hits. Tired of feeling like I missed an opportunity to sell because I get up in the morning and the goddamn price declined $50.  

I don't believe they are a long term problem for BTC. I think Gov'ts are a long term problem for BTC. Recent price moves show just how dependent crypto coin networks are on Gov't cooperation. If the IRS only makes a real, tangible stab at trying to grab their piece, besides an unenforceable announcement, it would kill the money flowing into BTC overnight. It'd be enough to make me close shop. Not because I hate the IRS, but because 15MH/s of GPUs is currently running at a 15% profit margin over costs with the current exchange prices. It's costing me 80% of revenue just in power (depending on the day), and I lose another 5% in fees. If the IRS comes in, I'll be running net negative. Then, what's the point.

Thank you. Feeling overwhelmed yet? You seem like you are getting mobbed here on a daily basis.



I've tried to explain this before to others, maybe you will understand. If I, as a provider, can just mine BTC or whatever, and make *more* coin than what you will pay me, why would I rent it to you? It's a hassle. I would do whatever makes me the most coin with the least amount of trouble.

In my case, I can actually make more coin doing the research myself, finding the right pools to mine on, and selling my coins at the right time. I'm pretty good at that, I have always been. It takes up a lot of time to make that happen though. Sometimes 6-8 hours a day, in addition to maintaining the equipment. I make less coin leasing it out to you, but it takes a lot less time, as I only need to make sure the equipment is running well, your pool settings are correct, and my prices are competitive. That still requires a few hours a day.

Sometimes profit isn't realized right away. Sometimes you need to mine the coins when the difficulty is low, hold onto your mined coins and sell them when the price is high. Your problem is your expectation that you will spend .01 BTC and make .012 BTC right away. It always doesn't work that way.

Look at it like this: Lots and lots of people are renting out these miners every day. I have someone that rents out my miners for a full 24 hours at a time, a repeat customer no less. He mines to a private pool and based on the repeat business seems to both be happy with the service and making coin. What do they know that you don't? People continue to rent out hashing power every day for a reason.

I would suggest that you give my service a try, but you seem truly unhappy with everyone you have rented from. I'm not sure the problem is with the providers, and so I don't want the headache. Instead I will suggest that you consider just trading coins.

It's not a profit guaranteed service. Its a hashing rate guaranteed service. If you rent a car and drive it to 7-11 instead of your job, you will not make money, and still have spent your rental fee. It's not the rental company's fault you made a poor choice.

Lease prices are not high, they are half what they were when I started leasing my rig, and going down weekly it seems. If you think you can do better on your own, lay out the $5000 for a small hash rate setup and try to make that back.

If you want to make money using the service, it's not complicated. I've done it. Look for your opportunities, rent your hash power, sell your coins. If you fail at any of those, you will lose your money, and it's nobody's fault but your own.

Good luck google translating that.  

I don't know. I haven't needed to log back in for at least 3 days so far. I usually just click over to another tab to refresh my balance a few times a day. The session seems to last at least until I restart my machine, and even then it carries over. I'm fine with it.

Cryptsy has a 2FA system with a time-out adjustment. I have my account set at 12 hours, so I usually have to relog once or twice a day. Not as bad as a bank, but still annoying considering it used to last a day before I enabled 2FA.

You could take the (marketing) approach of "We have banking grade security", but I rather think it doesn't need to be any more secure than a pool account. Rolling 24 hour auto-withdrawals will keep your BTC/DOGE balance low, and make you a less appealing target for a heist. Say something like UTC 00:00 + (Num of min = RIGID). For example: for 'RIGID=495' it would be UTC 00:00 + 495 minutes or UTC 08:15. That way, withdrawals aren't all going out at once, and everyone gets paid once a day. Not having 24hr withdrawals is why Hashcows became a target and Middlecoin did not. And fuck hashclowns anyway. They've had a small unexchanged balance for me for months!

My approach to security is to make it 'good enough' until there is a reason to make it more of a hassle. As long as your other practices makes you a less appealing target, like not holding onto balances longer than 24 hours, you shouldn't have any problems. 2FA sessions can be tied to IP addresses, right? Even if someone were able to access your current session key (due to compromised admin PC), they'd be trying to access it from a different IP, and require relogging. Even so, I'd still argue it the provider's fault for having a compromised PC, not leaserigs.

Agreed! So irritating. That said, the captcha seems to be working correctly again, so that's something.


It's showing in UTC, as it always should have been. A better system would be to have the time localized. CET is PITA to try to convert for anyone not in Europe. It was just not worth complaining about in the past.  


Yes, I mean: 'Can you make your site use a plain-text cookie to store password and username, and stay logged in indefinitely?'. E.g. Coinbase never logs me out, Cryptsy logs me out twice a day. Cryptsy=annoying, Coinbase=not.

Reserve 2FA for any transactions would could be deemed harmful. From a provider's perspective lowering prices and changing pools are about it. Create a set of trusted pools which require 2FA to change, and email notifications for any price or pool changes. The worst that could happen is someone could try to lower your prices, then rent your rigs for nothing. You would get emails about all of that and be able to terminate the lease immediately. Security can be further improved by logging IPs to transaction records and displaying them in the history.

Official request:

Customer POOL HISTORY! Today is the third day in a row someone has rented from me with problems. I got a PM from a customer this morning that my rigs were down, but they weren't, and 3 minutes later everything was okay. I have no idea what the problem was because I have no way to tell from the graph if the pool was bad or the rigs weren't responding. LRP is capable of telling the difference between no/bad pool authorization and rigs disconnecting or down. The graph should indicate with different highlighting which is which. A list of all the pools with user/pass that the customer has tried to connect with (stored for current renting session only) would be extremely useful in further narrowing down configuration problems vs provider problems. I don't mind extending leases due to equipment or network malfunctions, but I would like to be confident of the problem before I make that choice.

He finally got back in touch with me almost 3 hours into the lease. He of course asked for a refund, and blamed my miners 'going offline' for his poor pool settings. I wish the graph would indicate the difference between dead pool time vs rig disconnects. Clients put in the wrong worker name or password, and the equipment gets blamed for the downtime. I pro-rated his refund 50% based on what I was paid. Refunds should be processed through leaserig, so at least he gets the 3% back on the refunded portion.

I feel bad for him, but I run these to make money, not as a charity service. He didn't know what he was doing and wasn't watching his email or the pool. That's not my fault, and I can't see me paying for it. I rented a tool from Sunbelt last week. Paid $40 for it for the day. If I was using it incorrectly and didn't get the job done, that's not their fault, and they wouldn't give me even a partial refund. 

I've got a client who rented my Scrypt rig 30 minutes ago. I just checked it, he has it connected to a Scrypt-Jane pool, and so is getting 100% rejects. I've sent him 2 emails, and am not getting a response.

Other providers: Any thoughts on what should I do?

I've temporarily connected him to a multipool with his BTC refund address as the payout address, so at least he isn't just wasting his hashes. 

It's not always the case. However, I imagine less competition on leaserigs to be the primary cause. That said, I've seen people on betarigs offer their rigs for below what they can mine on their own in some cases. I would never do that. If I can make more coin mining on my own, then I mine on my own. It's a business, not a charity. The hardware has a very limited time of usefulness, and I'm trying to make the most of it. It seems it will eventually end up as a buyers market, making the hassle of renting it out not worth it. Until then, I'll take the small margin over my baseline.

The letter overlap is what screws me up. Even so, I know I answered those captchas right, and it still blocked me.

In all seriousness though, I've never had my captchas rejected that often. Nobody else is having problems?

You know, captchas are usually only used as a gateway to prevent bots from automated sign up, not to prevent *signing in*. The passwords are too ridiculously long to ever be cracked while relevant, so brute forcing isn't an issue. Why not just do away with it on the provider login?

I figured out the password problem. My password for my admin account wasn't emailed to me, it was PM'ed via the forum. I was trying to login with the password that was emailed. 

However, I just tried to log in. Tell me if that looks wrong, because these were rejected as the wrong captcha.

That problem was pool side. I hopped onto their IRC server and asked about it. They were running tests and resetting their server to get ready for 'Black Friday', which is what was causing the disconnects.



The graph steadied out after you switch to a stable pool:




The recent blips are me resetting things in response to your post.

Between the fucking captcha and the damned password I can't log in! This isn't my first time using a captcha but the damned thing is saying wrong captcha like half the time. I have tried my original password, which doesn't seem to work, I have tried the new password, which definitely doesn't work.  

Why can't we choose our own passwords again?