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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 07, 2018, 01:05:17 AM

Let it go. He'll never understand how gpu rigs work, he thinks they all make $2.

Sadly, I think you are right, but sometimes the reply/explanation is not just for the person you are responding to, but for the others who might read the thread.



OTFLMAO, doing fine here, at least I'm not compelled to troll a forum about a device I don't use to list all the shortcomings as if no one knows already.

Says volumes about the troll.

I see numerous gpu rigs, they're on ebay as well. Some asking 6K.....good luck with that. LOL
Not a ton of $$$ being made with GPU either. Never was big money, unlike X3's.

Keep trolling, you'll catch on.......eventually. Meanwhile I mine using FREE ELECTRICITY! "let the sunshine".  OTFL
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 06, 2018, 02:12:37 PM
You seem to think you are proving me wrong because a week ago you were making $29/day rather than $19-22/day, but that only makes the downward trend in earnings even worse... I shall refrain on commenting on what this says about your mental faculties.


Your a legend in YOUR own mind, math challenged maybe.. not my place to judge. Meanwhile I'll keep taking the 6.50 which is more than your doing no doubt.

You're comparing apples and oranges again, but even still it is not correct that the X3 out-earns a comparable costing GPU rig in all cases. I have a 4x RX 560 rig that does only bring in $2-$3/day depending on what I am mining (Ethash or CN-variants), but the GPUs also only cost $640 and it has been earning this amount - net of electricity, mind you - for several months now. Similarly, I have a 6x GTX 1060 rig that has been earning $7-$11/day mining ZEN (Equihash), so /more/ than your X3, and its GPUs cost $1560...

In fact, both rigs have already paid for themselves while the GPUs are still selling used on ebay for not much less than what I paid for them; in contrast, a cursory glance of the ebay listings for the X3 shows one with a BIN price of $850, and after DERO forks next week even that will appear to be a princely sum for a not-terribly-attractive doorstopper.

Finally, you are basically stuck with mining BCN now, which is pretty much the original shitcoin: it's been around for 6 years and the all time high price was less than 2 cents!

Earlier in this thread you said - more than once, actually - that you have, "all the time in the world," to ROI on your X3; that is looking more and more like a prophetic statement with each passing day. But you keep yelling, "WRONG!" if it makes you feel better; I won't judge.


Don't then, I see your still math challenged. Last week I still mined @ 29 a day. Now it's 6.50 OH WELL!! Thats life, meanwhile you make $2.00 while my electric meter runs backwards.  Not my fault you and rumplestillskin are sucking hind tit. Banked a lot of ETN too.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 06, 2018, 01:59:35 AM
That was referring to the Pre 5-30 which he was quite wrong about. I mine BCN now. He's also wrong about the bytecoin daily which is 6-6.50  a day now. Remember... my electric meter still runs backwards.

And I am still jealous of that. Wink

The problem is the options are so slim at the moment; Bytecoin is kind of a shit coin, so if you're flipping it daily for another coin, you're golden, but it's not one to hold IMO. It was the first coin I mined on a netbook when I was first learning about mining, and everyone was talking about what a scam it was. There aren't any better options atm, I'm mining it right now too, but I am probably going to start cashing it out into BTC weekly, because UNGH.

Still, not complaining, my X3 is and has earned well for me (I'm holding 3x the ETN I was before I bought it), just that it's a little depressing that it mines nothing really worth it. Then again, I bought an A3, and Sia isn't exactly ETH, so...

Yes, I will be flipping them to something with potential. I unlocked 5 blocks so far with that UK pool, got nice bonuses for doing it.

64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 06, 2018, 01:54:10 AM

Wrong!  6.50 a day. Get it right! While gpu's still chugging @ 3???

Right, and just a week ago your ASIC was making $19-22 per day... It's like you are willfully ignoring the trend here.

WRONG!!! $29.00 a day...get it right! ETN. BCN is now 6.50 Facts! like it or not.

You seem to think you are proving me wrong because a week ago you were making $29/day rather than $19-22/day, but that only makes the downward trend in earnings even worse... I shall refrain on commenting on what this says about your mental faculties.


Your a legend in YOUR own mind, math challenged maybe.. not my place to judge. Meanwhile I'll keep taking the 6.50 which is more than your doing no doubt.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 05, 2018, 08:19:27 PM
Unbelievable. This Doorstopper dropped from 200usd per day (when you guys bought it) to 4usd per day today! Wow

Wrong!  6.50 a day. Get it right! While gpu's still chugging @ 3???

Right, and just a week ago your ASIC was making $19-22 per day... It's like you are willfully ignoring the trend here.



WRONG!!! $29.00 a day...get it right! ETN. BCN is now 6.50 Facts! like it or not.

The X3 can't mine ETN, it forked. And you're still ignoring the fact that a gpu costs much less and uses much less electricity for that $3.

That was referring to the Pre 5-30 which he was quite wrong about. I mine BCN now. He's also wrong about the bytecoin daily which is 6-6.50  a day now. Remember... my electric meter still runs backwards.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 05, 2018, 05:56:19 PM
Unbelievable. This Doorstopper dropped from 200usd per day (when you guys bought it) to 4usd per day today! Wow

Wrong!  6.50 a day. Get it right! While gpu's still chugging @ 3???

Right, and just a week ago your ASIC was making $19-22 per day... It's like you are willfully ignoring the trend here.



WRONG!!! $29.00 a day...get it right! ETN. BCN is now 6.50 Facts! like it or not.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 05, 2018, 05:37:10 PM
I ROIed my X3 in one day, yep flipped it and made $300 on top of it!!

Well done!  Don't tell the gpu crew.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 05, 2018, 05:36:09 PM
Unbelievable. This Doorstopper dropped from 200usd per day (when you guys bought it) to 4usd per day today! Wow

That's about true of every Asic out there, my L3+ made about $200 a day each when they first released batch 1

Now you can get one for under $500 that barely makes anything

Same story every time. Expensive asics that turns into super expensive Doorstoppers
OTFLMAO!!! GPU's leading the way, boat anchor central.

I ROIED my gpus in no time with RVN 0xBTC XDAG and many others that you can't not will ever mine. You will never ROI. NEVER EVER.

Wrong again! OTFL. You'll ROI in 2037 no doubt! Your intelligence precedes you. LOL  (can't not) OTFLMAO

Hahaha I can feel your pain
OTFL- join the gpu party at the bottom of the sea. LOL  Still laughing @ "can't not will ever"  Lots of 2nd graders laughing at that too.
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 05, 2018, 05:28:04 PM
Unbelievable. This Doorstopper dropped from 200usd per day (when you guys bought it) to 4usd per day today! Wow

That's about true of every Asic out there, my L3+ made about $200 a day each when they first released batch 1

Now you can get one for under $500 that barely makes anything

Same story every time. Expensive asics that turns into super expensive Doorstoppers
OTFLMAO!!! GPU's leading the way, boat anchor central.

I ROIED my gpus in no time with RVN 0xBTC XDAG and many others that you can't not will ever mine. You will never ROI. NEVER EVER.

Wrong again! OTFL. You'll ROI in 2037 no doubt! Your intelligence precedes you. LOL  (can't not) OTFLMAO
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 05, 2018, 05:19:26 PM
Unbelievable. This Doorstopper dropped from 200usd per day (when you guys bought it) to 4usd per day today! Wow

That's about true of every Asic out there, my L3+ made about $200 a day each when they first released batch 1

Now you can get one for under $500 that barely makes anything

Same story every time. Expensive asics that turns into super expensive Doorstoppers
OTFLMAO!!! GPU's leading the way, boat anchor central.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 05, 2018, 04:51:28 PM
Unbelievable. This Doorstopper dropped from 200usd per day (when you guys bought it) to 4usd per day today! Wow

Wrong!  6.50 a day. Get it right! While gpu's still chugging @ 3???
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 04, 2018, 05:11:22 PM
Updated list of X3 friendly coins:

Bytecoin (BCN)
DigitalNote (XDN)
Monero Classic (XMC)
Monero Original (XMO)
Sumokoin (SUMO)
Bitsum (BSM)


I tried DERO but quit after a few hours. Doing bytecoin now.

Thanks
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 03, 2018, 03:14:33 AM
What's everyone mining now with the X3? I tried DERO but with their convoluted wallet system, things weren't being credited.

Went back to BCN since they share  5-10% of any blocks you find in ADDITION to your regular mining payments. bytecoin.uk

Try it out and let us know how it compares to, say, Fairhash. I don't think it sounds scammy, I'm just skeptical about the numbers they post on their front page.

Then again, at like $6/day as long as you're earning near that it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other I suppose.

Seems to be working as advertised, found 2 blocks and was paid for both. Fairhash wants a 1% fee for bytecoin.

Also noticed that bytecoin is about 500k away from its max supply.

Huh. Wonder what happens then? I guess we'll find out before long...

From what I've seen so far, mining transactions continues, but no telling whether the price will go up or down for the coin.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 02, 2018, 05:23:48 PM
What's everyone mining now with the X3? I tried DERO but with their convoluted wallet system, things weren't being credited.

Went back to BCN since they share  5-10% of any blocks you find in ADDITION to your regular mining payments. bytecoin.uk

Try it out and let us know how it compares to, say, Fairhash. I don't think it sounds scammy, I'm just skeptical about the numbers they post on their front page.

Then again, at like $6/day as long as you're earning near that it's 6 of one, half dozen of the other I suppose.

Seems to be working as advertised, found 2 blocks and was paid for both. Fairhash wants a 1% fee for bytecoin.

Also noticed that bytecoin is about 500k away from its max supply.
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when a coin reaches the maximum supply??? on: June 02, 2018, 05:20:34 PM
I see Bytecoin is less than 500K away from circulating supply  and maximum supply.

Going to be interesting to see what happens when its reached.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 02, 2018, 05:02:50 PM
What's everyone mining now with the X3? I tried DERO but with their convoluted wallet system, things weren't being credited.

Went back to BCN since they share  5-10% of any blocks you find in ADDITION to your regular mining payments. bytecoin.uk
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 02, 2018, 02:40:35 PM
Same here, but I did indeed buy coin. Mostly XLM, XRP, and ETH before buying a miner. Now I have some low price coin that I mined rather than buy. It's all a gamble like the stock market. Bought into some MJ companies TRTC and CVSI.... the two top revenue US traded companies (also a gamble since MJ still illegal federally)

Not for long; at least, not without some sort of fascist overthrow of state governments. Medical aside, there are currently too many recreational states for the fed to do anything about it. If they wanted to, they needed to do something before California stepped up. CA is too big to take down, population wise AND financially (recently became the world's fifth largest economy, I believe).

I bought some green stocks too, but the bigger issue is that it's early days for the industry. Phillip Morris and other biggies are starting to move into it, so it's going to get...interesting. All I wish is that I could invest in the company that makes the gummies I buy up here in PDX, because damn, they're too tasty. They should really include a bag of non-edibles with them, so you can eat a bunch after they kick in without going full on psycho...

 

Agreed! Too many heavy hitters involved now, look at Bohner(sic). Dead set against MJ, now on the board of a big MJ consortium. Tide is changing for sure, risk reward classic and I took the risk.

I always buy stock in what I personally use: Apple (macbook, mini, and iphone), Diageo (Lagavulin), Tesla (ok, I don't own a Tesla, but I want one!), Umpqua (I bank there), AMD/Nvidia (mining), weed stocks (duh)...
 I hear ya,  I don't use weed, but bought quite a bit of stock in 2 companies. Tesla is also on my future car list, liked it from day one. One other stock I bought @ 10, and 11 is STM (took out 1/3 of my gov. savings...100k to buy it) the world leader for system on a chip. I sold around 24, but think it will go to $50.
If my weed stocks will cooperate, I'm looking to buy back into STM. That chip is in the iphone among thousands of other things.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 02, 2018, 04:01:18 AM
Same here, but I did indeed buy coin. Mostly XLM, XRP, and ETH before buying a miner. Now I have some low price coin that I mined rather than buy. It's all a gamble like the stock market. Bought into some MJ companies TRTC and CVSI.... the two top revenue US traded companies (also a gamble since MJ still illegal federally)

Not for long; at least, not without some sort of fascist overthrow of state governments. Medical aside, there are currently too many recreational states for the fed to do anything about it. If they wanted to, they needed to do something before California stepped up. CA is too big to take down, population wise AND financially (recently became the world's fifth largest economy, I believe).

I bought some green stocks too, but the bigger issue is that it's early days for the industry. Phillip Morris and other biggies are starting to move into it, so it's going to get...interesting. All I wish is that I could invest in the company that makes the gummies I buy up here in PDX, because damn, they're too tasty. They should really include a bag of non-edibles with them, so you can eat a bunch after they kick in without going full on psycho...

 

Agreed! Too many heavy hitters involved now, look at Bohner(sic). Dead set against MJ, now on the board of a big MJ consortium. Tide is changing for sure, risk reward classic and I took the risk.
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 02, 2018, 12:43:20 AM
With the ETN fork I was wondering what is the best coin people are mining right now? Whattomine and Coinwarz only show a few coins with max say $12 per day but if you look on Nicehash at the Cryptonight pool it's paying $22 a day for the same hashrate (320khash). That tells me people are mining another cryptonight (old not v7) coin that's more profitable than $22 a day. Unfortunately X3 isn't compatible with Nicehash. I was wondering if anyone had found what that coin or coins were? I've struggled Googling around to find the best one.

I haven't seen anything over $6.50 a day. That X3 can mine.

The X3 is now roughly on par with a 4 card 1070 rig for income, the rig would be about 20% more energy efficient. That's what everyone had been saying for a while.

ASICs are great if you can get in early or if they are for a stable coin (the Litecoin and Bitcoin miners tend to be worth running for long, long periods of time, for example). The X3 will likely be a spaceheater that pays for some to most of the energy it uses by July. Z9 probably by August, depending on how many they ship. That's why batch 2 and beyond is never a good purchase unless it's for a coin you are collecting and holding.

And yet we'll keep buying ASICs and fund BITMAIN next gen ASIC which they would sell once they do some good amount of "testing".
 That is true.

Not necessarily. I mean, probably, but the next gen of GPUs will probably be the hot market for a bit, then the next gen of ASICs, with FPGAs dotting the landscapes in between both. The main problem I see is that greed outweighs efficiency; so like how the Z9 is actually really great for equihash mining because it is so much more environmentally friendly, it only will be for like a month or two, when the market is flooded with ASICs and the difficulty brings the actual income (and, as such, demand for more gear) down to something comparable to current rigs; i.e., it's not long before the Z9 will earn the equivalent amount of 300-400W energy in gpus, or roughly 4 well tuned 1070s, do right now. Which mines a lot less. And the end result isn't  amore efficient system, since most of these coins still lack much practical use. It's almost like a shell game...

But if new products are going to hit the market, it's definitely better that they are more energy efficient for short bursts than just flooding it with inefficiency I suppose. This is all why I usually advise new people to invest instead of mine; it's not an exclusivity thing, it's a practical one.

Plus being honest, I'd probably be much further ahead financially if I'd just bought Bitcoin or Ethereum with the money I've spent on mining gear, I just happen to really like learning about this stuff.
Same here, but I did indeed buy coin. Mostly XLM, XRP, and ETH before buying a miner. Now I have some low price coin that I mined rather than buy. It's all a gamble like the stock market. Bought into some MJ companies TRTC and CVSI.... the two top revenue US traded companies (also a gamble since MJ still illegal federally)
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain Antminer X3 -- 220KH+ Cryponight - 550W on: June 01, 2018, 10:05:46 PM
With the ETN fork I was wondering what is the best coin people are mining right now? Whattomine and Coinwarz only show a few coins with max say $12 per day but if you look on Nicehash at the Cryptonight pool it's paying $22 a day for the same hashrate (320khash). That tells me people are mining another cryptonight (old not v7) coin that's more profitable than $22 a day. Unfortunately X3 isn't compatible with Nicehash. I was wondering if anyone had found what that coin or coins were? I've struggled Googling around to find the best one.

I haven't seen anything over $6.50 a day. That X3 can mine.

The X3 is now roughly on par with a 4 card 1070 rig for income, the rig would be about 20% more energy efficient. That's what everyone had been saying for a while.

ASICs are great if you can get in early or if they are for a stable coin (the Litecoin and Bitcoin miners tend to be worth running for long, long periods of time, for example). The X3 will likely be a spaceheater that pays for some to most of the energy it uses by July. Z9 probably by August, depending on how many they ship. That's why batch 2 and beyond is never a good purchase unless it's for a coin you are collecting and holding.

And yet we'll keep buying ASICs and fund BITMAIN next gen ASIC which they would sell once they do some good amount of "testing".
  That is true.
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