And a BIG Thank You for that link. I was looking all over the other day for an actual changelog and couldn't find squat 

Running Debian 'squeeze' here. You can add it to the list that runs both 22 & 23. And while Ubuntu 8.04 LTS may still be under support, officially 10.04 is the new LTS version. I don't have that installed so I can't say if it runs them or not.

The first few hours will be chaotic*. There are quite a few people waiting to both cash out and get money in to MtGox. Although, I see prices trending downward initially for several reasons:

- people fed up with the whole bitcoin thing. they want to get whatever money they can and just get out.
- people that have lost confidence in MtGox. This will be a mixture of transferring their USD to dwala and their bitcoins to their wallets.
- people that need their money/bitcoins to pay for stuff and just haven't been able to get to it (normal cash-outs/transfers)

These things will depress the Bitcoin value as many of those that wish to buy will be waiting for a dip before that buy (knowing that others are eager to sell). After a few hours I see the price becoming mostly stable in the $10 - $12 range (although a quick, occasional, dip lower is possible) as the sellers leave the market and the good deals on buying dry up. From this range the market will drift up slowly as those still in get back into their normal routines and trading gets back to something that could be considered 'normal'. Assuming few glitches, and most people have access to their accounts without problem, I give the market a week to ten days to more or less stabilize before moving forward.

Short term: 1 BTC = $10 - $12
Slightly longer term: 1 BTC = $17 - $20 (roughly where we were before this all started)

Recommendations:

1. When MtGox is back, log in and verify everything is alright. Probably a good idea to change your password and verify your e-mail address that they have on record for you.
2. Buy or Sell only if necessary. Don't trade at all for 24 hours if you don't really need to.
3. The keen eye will spot good deals and the quick hand will snatch them. Fortune will favor the prepared here very much.
4. Lady Luck will also be around to punish the foolish, try not to be one of those because it WILL hurt.
5. If in doubt about #3 and #4 then see #2.

_{* Chaotic; as in getting your ass trampled in the entryway of Wal-Mart at an after Christmas sale type chaotic.}

It's being worked on as a future client implementation. If you see the discussions in the other areas of the boards talking about a 'lite client', this is what they are talking about.

WARNING: I am probably wrong in whole or in part. (Translation: I might be full of poo. You are warned.)

This is how I understand it to be:

If you are sending a non-trivial amount of Bitcoins (something greater than 1.00 BTC) AND the Bitcoins that you are sending have enough confirmations (never nailed down a specific number for this, but probably 25 confirmations or more, maybe) THEN you can send your transaction without a fee (although, if you do include one, your transaction has a greater chance of being sent quicker).

NOW, IF you send a small amount of Bitcoins (for example 0.06) AND/OR your Bitcoins have few confirmations (for example they only have 3 confirmations) THEN the system will automatically add a fee to your transaction EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE FEE IN YOUR CLIENT SET TO 0.00 BTC.

The real simple version: Send large amounts of old Bitcoins and and it will be free.

At least that's how I understand it to be 

I think eleuthria has probably done a meltdown from all the crap over the last two weeks, grabbed all the donations, and is now sitting drunk and naked in the middle of the server room with a case of Makers Mark doing shots with the load balancer.

"On fr meee...." *hic* "an on fr myyy lil budddddy" *splash* *crackle*   

Someone bang on the server please. Block 132875 is stuck and don't wanna come out  Maybe call Roto Router 

There is another way, nay, an even BETTER way to alter the number if bitcoins that you have; Just send all your lonely ones to the address listed below. I promise that they will be well taken care of AND you will have succeeded in altering your bitcoin number 

A chihuahua is what you end up with when you go dog shopping with your wife/girlfriend while you are both drunk and high. Almost anything sounds good under those conditions. Once you sober up you're like I did WHAT? WTF was I thinking?? To make matters even worse, a chihuahua isn't even a real dog... it's a snack for a real dog  And it sure as heck ain't worth no $1500+  At least in that condition you can blame the drugs and/or booze. If you were sober and still came home with the rat dog then it's time to turn in your man card 

Here in Florida for me it works out to $0.11/kWH once you figure in all the fees, taxes, charges, and any other BS that they think that they can get 

Looking at the charts, TH seems to be the number one trader at the moment (with MtGox down). But the volume there is only about 5% of what is normally on MtGox. Where is the volume? Why hasn't a good portion of it moved somewhere else? Is everyone just holding their coins (and their breath) and waiting to see what happens once MtGox reopens? If so, should MtGox hold that sort of power over the market (even if they didn't plan on it)?

Ok, thanks guys. I sometimes need to be hit with The Obvious Stick^TM for things to sink in and stay

You would probably be better off using ufasoft_bitcoin-miner than minerd. On my core 2 duo the ufasoft gave me about a 2.5x greater hash rate (990kH/s boosted to 2.6MH/s per core). Try both and see what works best for you 

Which line at the supermarket is best; The one that you are in or the one on the end that just opened?  It's all a bit relative to what you already have compared to what you may gain/lose by switching.

Scenario: You have a bitcoin wallet with five addresses, each of which has received some bitcoins. The wallet holds a total of 10.01 BTC. You have the wallet generate a new address and then tell the client to send 10 BTC to that new address with a fee of .01 BTC. What happens next?

A. The 10.01 BTC is sent out to the network from the five addresses (zeroing them out). 10 BTC is returned to the new address from the network which collects the .01 BTC as a fee.

B. The client consolidates the five addresses into the sixth address locally and then sends a ledger update onto the network with the .01 BTC fee.

C. The client sees that it is simply sending bitcoins to itself since it holds both addresses and does nothing.

D. The client doesn't know how to handle having both addresses and crashes.

E. Something else.

Logically, it should be option A that happens although option B is also a possibility... but what really does happen?

A changelog that tells us what has been added, removed, changed, or fixed?

I saw the new version sitting at the 'official site' and looked around for one. Nothing at bitcoin.org that I could find. Nothing at the sourceforge site that I could find. Nothing in the downloaded package. The only thing I could tell was different was that the version number changed. Even if it was just a simple text file with:


I'd be ok with that  This is, after all, a program that's suppose to handle and track millions in real money and not just be some kids in their mom's basement playing WoW 

First, great work over the last 2 weeks  Not quite sure how you stayed sane through it all 

Now, several suggestions that everyone will probably hate:
- make the account lockout feature default to ON instead of OFF when you create an account and have a final 24 hour lockout when you turn it off.
- require a second password, different from the account password, to request a payout.

Anyway, keep up the great work 

This could also be done with the sender using two wallets (two different instances of the bitcoin app). Wallet1 is the receiving wallet from all sources with a number of different receiving addresses. You then send the aggregate amount to a single address in Wallet2. Then you send from Wallet2 to pay with a known sending address. The only catch being that you need to do the transfer sufficiently ahead of time to have enough verifications in the block chain for the coins in Wallet2.

Your example would change to:

I'll echo wolftaur's post. CPU mining is valuable in that you get to learn about the different pieces of software, the pools, and bitcoins themselves. You won't make more than a few bit cents a week, but take the time to learn and experiment and see if this mining thing is something that you want to invest time and money in. If you decide that you want to bail out, then no harm done and not much money wasted. If you decide that you want to continue then you have some basic knowledge that you can build on.

It's better to say, "I wish I had started doing this two weeks ago" rather than "I wish I didn't spend that several thousand dollars on hardware." 

It's in this thread http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=3486.280 on page 15 and is post #283. Good Luck