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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What needs to happen in 2019 for the market to recover? on: December 12, 2018, 12:41:53 PM
People will need to be using the technology more and not just investing in it. Sharing the technology with acquaintances is good. There are already a lot of good projects out there which just needs recognition. It will recover once trust is gained once again from old investors and also trust from new investors.

Agree with you there mate! People need to see the potential of the tech involved.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What needs to happen in 2019 for the market to recover? on: December 12, 2018, 11:50:06 AM
I read a tweet this morning saying: "In 2018 everyone wanted to be in crypto. In 2019, we will find out who really wants to be in crypto."

Who's ready to invest in 2019?

2019 - a year for more applications? More useful use cases? Proper token economics?

I know the Elrond Network team will be here in 2019 - buidling as always Smiley



maybe the tweet is right, people who stay in crypto world next year is the real crypto believer
because at the beginning of 2018 the price was good enough but now i can said this is a crash year in crypto,,
i'm ready for 2019  Wink
anyway what is Elrond Network ? is this a kind of ICO project or what ?

Hi mate - check out this thread - it should clear things out for you: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4430681.msg48273320#msg48273320
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What needs to happen in 2019 for the market to recover? on: December 12, 2018, 09:39:13 AM
We have a lot of great news for 2019 and if all of them are going to happen we will see another bull run. But as we have learned from 2018, it does not matter how big the news is, the market can still be manipulated, so lets just wait for the better times.

Like the positive vibe
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What needs to happen in 2019? on: December 12, 2018, 09:27:26 AM
I read a tweet this morning saying: "In 2018 everyone wanted to be in crypto. In 2019, we will find out who really wants to be in crypto."

Who's ready to invest in 2019?

2019 - a year for more applications? More useful use cases? Proper token economics?

I know the Elrond Network team will be here in 2019 - buidling as always Smiley


We needs more support from the institutional investors, your ico will change nothing in the next year.
If there will be a lot of utility token in the future and that should be considered as a good thing dude. We need a utility token to prove the regulators about the usefulness of crypto.

I agree with the fact that we need support from institutional investors - I still think our project will shake things up a bit. For any meaningful adoption we need a platform that can scale and we believe we have the solution.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What needs to happen in 2019 for the market to recover? on: December 12, 2018, 08:54:44 AM
I'll draft 3 reasons for the market to do in order to recover from this messy blood hell.

1. All shitcoins should be gone for good. Ban those people who are acclaimed and acquainted for crime such as scamming. Literally put those people in jail.

2. We need new investors to fill the gap in the market cap loss since the previous ATH. Also, by accomplishing this into legal process.

3. Approval of etf will be the best way to solve the 2 mentioned suggestions. Cause people will be relief to know that finally there are mitigation for crypto business which is scope in the bitcoin etf goal.

Good points
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What needs to happen in 2019 for the market to recover? on: December 12, 2018, 08:27:16 AM

I know the Elrond Network team will be here in 2019 - buidling as always Smiley


 Shocked Is it promotion for Elrond Network?

It's a statement Smiley
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / What needs to happen in 2019 for the market to recover? on: December 12, 2018, 07:24:26 AM
I read a tweet this morning saying: "In 2018 everyone wanted to be in crypto. In 2019, we will find out who really wants to be in crypto."

Who's ready to invest in 2019?

2019 - a year for more applications? More useful use cases? Proper token economics?

I know the Elrond Network team will be here in 2019 - buidling as always Smiley

68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 01100010 01110101 01101001 01100100 01101100 - developers will know on: December 11, 2018, 04:33:44 PM
The idea is that regardless of market sentiment - people ought to focus on buidling Smiley
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / 01100010 01110101 01101001 01100100 01101100 - developers will know on: December 11, 2018, 03:34:19 PM
The best hedge in this market is to either focus on buidling or being illiquid and have assets invested in projects doing exactly that!

This is exactly what we're doing at www.elrond.com

What you guys up2?
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The POSITIVE effects of ETH going down on: December 11, 2018, 02:01:45 PM
looks like there's still interest for ETH regardless Smiley
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: 7 Reasons why you don’t play blockchain games on: December 11, 2018, 12:17:44 PM
In 2018 we see a lot of information about blockchain games around Internet. Some people say it’s a good way to earn, other people say such games are fun and nice to play. However, blockchain games are not that popular as you may think. For 99% you don’t play them, because:

1) Not all crypto owners have Ether;
2) Not all Ether owners have MetaMask;
3) All crypto games are pay-to-play;
4) All existing crypto games are corny;
5) People don’t play them. They earn money;
6) Blockchain games are not interesting to play;
7) Existing blockchain solutions including Ethereum can support only basic game mechanics.

The reason why I made this list is not because I hate blockchain games. I play them, actually. You can really make profit.

I made this post because I want to pay your attention. You have to be careful trying something new. You need to weight the pros and cons.
Don’t fall for these blockchain developers sweet words. Remember that they are not trying to change this world. They want to profit.


What games would you recommend? Why? Cheers Smiley
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: To invest or help with marketing? on: December 11, 2018, 08:56:45 AM
Hello. In the course of studying the forum and participating in the bounty, the question arose: what exactly do you prefer to invest or help with marketing (participate in bounty)? Or do both?

Check out www.elrond.com or this thread on here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4430681.msg48273320#msg48273320

This is a project similar to Zilliqa but which promises 1000x improvements to current iterations. Is promising project and will be good opportunity for investment Smiley

All the best!
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you buy not top 100 alts? on: December 11, 2018, 08:47:33 AM
Hey guys, do you buy altcoins which are not top 100 of Coinmarketcap? Isn’t it risky to invest in them? Want to hear your opinion!

Check out www.elrond.com and this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4430681.msg48273320#msg48273320

I always advise people look into the tech and team before they invest.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: please recommend some Altcoins on: December 11, 2018, 08:38:16 AM
In my opinion, it's not a bad time to invest now. Some coins are really very cheap now and I believe the market will recover in the near future.
I want to invest some project such as, Tezos, Cardano, NEM, Dash, Maker, NPXS, Lisk, OmiseGO, Zilliqa, Komodo, Status, Waltonchain, Elastos.
It that a good idea to do it now? Any comments are welcome



Hi! Take a look at www.elrond.com - On similar lines as Zilliqa but we think we can bring 1000x improvements to current iterations.

You can read through the thread on here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4430681.msg48273320#msg48273320

All the best Smiley
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: "What will ACTIVATE the next BULL RUN?" - CZ Binance on: December 11, 2018, 08:12:15 AM
Don't think of bull run , I see many hit and run people asking and asking almost every seconds in the forum about bull and have nothing to add to the ecosystem again than seeing pump of price , it really annoying that every one is only in for the money and not having any thing good to add to this great tech.

I think you're right there - That's why at Elrond - we always try to get people talking about the tech Smiley
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Know you ENEMY / Your weaknesses - find robust ways to counteract on: December 10, 2018, 07:05:36 PM
thoughts?
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Know you ENEMY / Your weaknesses - find robust ways to counteract on: December 10, 2018, 03:42:44 PM
How can you build a new blockchain architecture with increase in throughput and decrease in energy expenditure?

Article written by Felix Crisan - original link here: https://medium.com/elrondnetwork/elronds-design-rationale-12eb194bf485
 

Note: Throughout this article by proposer we’ll refer to a node/entity in the network that is in charge at a specific time of proposing a new block, while validator(s) will designate the nodes/entities that are responsible with validating the block put forward by the proposer, thus effectively “vouching” for the proposer.

The two problems that Elrond tries to solve from the get-go are increase in throughput — achievable through sharding and decrease in energy expenditure — achievable through moving from a proof-of-work based consensus to a proof-of-stake consensus. Each of these two prongs require different aspects to be taken into consideration when designing the architecture and components around it. The PoS aspect needs working around all (most?) common issues in PoS systems — thus incentivising rational behavior. The sharding aspect needs mechanisms to reach agreements inside each smaller part of the network (shard) as well as agreement between participants in a transaction that spans more shards. And all these need to also take into consideration the potential Byzantine (adversarial) behavior.

Before anything let’s detail a common approach when talking about blockchains based on proof-of-stake: everybody tends to measure time with two units; the obvious one called block time (the interval between two successive blocks) but also a higher order one called epoch or era. From this point of view the interval required to generate a specific number (X) of blocks is an era (thus always era = X * block time).

Know your enemy…
All PoS blockchains, in existence today or merely theorized, use crypto-economic incentives to ensure that behaviour of people (as their network personas represented by nodes) follows an expected pattern — nodes get rewarded for doing good things (for the network) and they get punished for doing bad things. While in some cases, this carrot-and-stick approach over-emphasises one side of the equation (i.e. there are cases where there are no punishments for adversarial behaviour), most of the times these two sides are balanced. Also worth noting that punishments are largely related to a stake that each node locks in for a predefined period (normally multiple epochs). The adversarial behaviour in absence of this locked stake that the node can lose (in part or entirely) is called Nothing-at-stake attack.

Another type of adversarial behaviour related to locked stakes involves a node being part of the “decision” process, then dropping off from this process and retrieving his stake. Some time after these events, using the credentials associated with the stake (i.e. keys), the node/entity can try to “forge” a different history (either itself, or by providing these credentials to a malicious party); thus transforming the attack into a delayed nothing at stake, usually named Long-range attack. From this point of view, referring to the terms outlined in the previous article, it’s important that stake unlocking takes place only after the blocks proposed or validated by the node in discussion are finalized.

In some types of Long-range attacks performed in blockchains that implement penalties (in principal those with liveness targets) publishing this alternative history might give the impression that some of the nodes have not performed their duties and thus get (unfairly) punished. This type of adversarial behaviour is called Stake-bleeding attack [SB].

Last, but certainly not least, we can have situations where nodes are isolated from the network by adversaries, that ‘feed’ them a distorted view of reality (e.g. only relay transactions from their ‘friends’ and censor legitimate transactions). These types of attacks are called eclipse-attacks.

…but also know your weaknesses to counteract
As outlined previously, PoS systems have to cover a few weaker points when dealing with adversaries, two of the most important being:
* External: The DoS-ing (or otherwise impairing) of the current validator(s) or current proposer so that they are not able to communicate with the rest of the nodes and can’t take decisions. This obviously affects the liveness capabilities of the blockchain, but can also affect the security (thus leading to unpredictable results).
* Internal: Nodes (identities or entities) that are chosen at a specific step to take on one of the ‘official’ roles for the next step(s) can behave in an adversarial manner (e.g. proposing invalid blocks, refusing to participate in collective signing procedures etc).

If you remember from the previous article, three types of sharding were described — network, transaction and state. We’ve opted to do state sharding and, as a response to these two particular problems just outlined, we’ve came up with two concepts which we’ve named Secure Proof of Stake and Adaptive State Sharding.

A Novel Approach to adversarial behaviour through Robust Adaptivity
Everyone’s intuition tells that the longer in advance an adversary knows about the proposer node and/or validator nodes — starting from the node identity but maybe also their ‘network coordinates’ — the more damage this adversary can inflict on the node (and, by extension, to the network). An even worse scenario is if, by knowing long in advance who is going to be responsible of a particular block proposal, the adversary can collude with the said proposer (or validator) so they propose (or validate) invalid blocks (e.g. allowing a double spend or minting coins out of thin air — not unlike what central banks do today :-D). As a result it’s desirable to know a node’s role for a specific step (block) as little in advance as possible.

To resolve this conundrum we’ve taken the following approach: we use the current block signature as a randomness source and based on that we pick a/ current proposer and b/ current validator set. One way this can be achieved is that everyone eligible runs a Verifiable Random Function (VRF) on the current block hash and comes up with a random number (and a proof that the random number was correctly generated by the chosen VRF). The random numbers are arranged (say low to high) and the first one (producer of the smallest number) is the proposer, the next N are the validators. In this way, while the proposer can pick a particular block, they won’t be able to tell which of the other consensus participants will obtain a maybe smaller random number on the next step.

To make things even more difficult for byzantine nodes we’ve also devised a process whereby from time to time (say each epoch) a part of the shard nodes are reassigned to different shards, without anyone in the network being able to tell in advance what node will be reassigned and, moreover, to which shard will it be moved. The reassignment process can be, again, the result of running a VRF.

The particularity we’ve employed in designing our carrot-and-stick mechanisms is that besides rewards and slashing each node will have a rating that represents the view of the network on the said node’s behaviour. Playing by the rules will increase (up to a limit) the node’s rating, while adversarial behaviours will decrease it. This rating will be combined with the node’s stake when computing stake related probabilities — i.e. in the end a weight on the user’s stake. Positive ratings will act as if the node’s stake is bigger than the actual stake, while negative ratings will have the same effect as lowering the node’s stake. Actual rewards and punishments could also be affected by this rating (thus a positive behaviour would benefit a node more, in the long run, than a negative one, assuming the same stake to start with)

Takeaways
In conclusion — we set to build this new blockchain architecture by finding the optimal (we think) mechanisms through which we:
Incentivise good behavior — by asking entities that want to “play” to “put the money where the mouth is”, while at the same providing rewards for being part of the consensus mechanism
Minimise bias-ability of certain decisions and participants’ exposure to attacks by taking some decisions (shard assignment, group and leader elections) based on a randomness source (block and node signatures).
Eliminate (or at least drastically reduce probabilities of) collusion by shuffling nodes in shards from time to time, also changing roles inside a shard

References
[SB] https://eprint.iacr.org/2018/248.pdf, “Stake-Bleeding Attacks
on Proof-of-Stake Blockchains”
[LRA] https://blog.cosmos.network/consensus-compare-casper-vs-tendermint-6df154ad56ae “Consensus Compare: Casper vs. Tendermint”

78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The POSITIVE effects of ETH going down on: December 10, 2018, 11:09:57 AM
It is making it easier for new companies to get into ETH crypto space. For startups the biggest trouble is always between the time of concept to getting their first funding, and during that stage they do need to make tests and really work the concept into reality and when ethereum based startups do something they usually require a bit of ethereum and when it is 1500 for one single ethereum that is a lot of money for a new startup, usually they have that much as a whole and ethereum requires it to be just for one ethereum.

This way startups can just get one or two ethereum and not spend thousands of dollars for it and still use it to check if their idea works. Basically made the ethereum crypto startup space a lot easier to get into and created a lot of income from the newly founded ideas. Lets hope there will be a lot more in the future until ethereum goes back up.

Great insights - we've been self funded until now, focusing mainly on developing our product, hiring top developers and engineers. Very soon we'll release the testnet and we believe that based on what we already have to show, and once the market is back up - investors will have some solid reasons to jump at the opportunity. Smiley
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The POSITIVE effects of ETH going down on: December 10, 2018, 10:00:03 AM
I also think that such a market correction is great for the whole industry. We will finally see less scammers and people that are here for short term profits. The believers will still hold whatever happens and as soon as the market recovers we will be rewarded.

Agree with you there!
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The POSITIVE effects of ETH going down on: December 10, 2018, 08:39:17 AM
Exiting scammers at this moment is good, but they join us so easy how they exit now.
I think for now is time to create new technics to exclude scammers

I think it will be extremely difficult to exclude scammers all together. One simple solution is for people to engage more with the technology. It's hard for scammers to actually present some tech.
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