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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 16, 2014, 06:07:31 AM
holly shit,

the XMR deamon is totally memory leak, that why when it start, my computer are about to freezing...

Kind of. It loads the entire blockchain into ram. It uses a lot of memory, and can probably be handled better, but isn't a memory leak .. as it won't grow unless the blockchain does.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (MRO) Speculation thread on: June 15, 2014, 04:47:42 PM
But people don't want to pay for other scams. That's why it's a problem.

And now we've come full circle. If they don't want to pay for this 'scam' as you'd like to call it, they'll take either precautions to prevent it or utilize the dormant resources themselves Wink. Free marketing.
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (MRO) Speculation thread on: June 15, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
Lol. MRO's developers do not merge the code at GitHub. You know why? Becuae they just ctrl+c and ctrl+v chunks of code. They just jerking of in trying to imitate some intense activity, but their commits show that all real changes appear after it had been deposited at BCN. And they do not even care to mention that the code is taken from BCN which (sounds ironically) is mere stealing and violation of open-source technology regulations.

That's awkward, who are all those people merging code into the master that aren't BCN devs though? It's wierd that I have an electrum seed with Monero, and not BCN. It's wierd that there's actually an improving api. The funniest part is that developers of the BCN code have not only accepted Monero as a currency, they've embraced it and more.

Quote from: CryptoNote

Perhaps we were slightly over-focused on the technology experiments. What you are doing to spread the word about CryptoNote can actually be even more important and we urge you to proceed. We see your point in blaming BCN's developers for their own vision on cryptocurrencies.

There is an issue in Bitcoin, for instance, which we see as one of its major drawbacks. The core team seems to be too small to keep maintaining the code base efficiently, while the majority of the services and activists is focused on spreading the word about their businesses. This narrow interest is what we fear might happen to CryptoNote. That is why we are eager to persist this technology-driven development. I hope this clarifies our position.


The code developers are quoted in every file in the github, save for epee. You should try harder little fella.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 15, 2014, 04:31:35 PM
Hi I have the problem
Error: transaction <5a65b629b7559ae477c97e55e203da7f841b9df2da9f5f7a2813f98541c442c4> was rejected by daemon with status "Failed"

The latest version. How to solve it?
the same problem:

wallet says: transaction <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> was rejected by daemon with status "Failed"
daemon says: transaction verification failed:  <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

anybody who did any tx today?
Both GUI wallets (cryptonote/monero-qt) pulls "success tx" but realy it does not (there is no such tx in official blockchain)  Cry



I got this when I tried to use an old daemon to broadcast a transaction. What I did was kill poolstate, p2pstate and my blockchain, and my wallet file (NOT the .keys file the other one) and then re download the blockchain and open the wallet again from the keys file (just type the orig wallet name) and then refresh the new wallet from start. This is prob overkill i think you only have to kill poolstate, but good practice if you've got general problems. I don't know if we have the same problem, but have you done the four above things yet?
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (MRO) Speculation thread on: June 15, 2014, 02:26:52 PM
Botnets are a non-issue dude, they're a finite resource that most people need to pay for. Anyone owning high end GPU cards should have an antivirus .. end of story (in fact most monero virsues are picked up quite fast these days because of the unicorn botnets).
Since when botnets and virsuses stop being a problem?
Viruses makes currency using unfair. Botnets makes currency not liquid. Imo you are not right, bro.


What makes you think they're a problem for the currency? They're a problem for the person that allows themselves to be exploited, and the law by which that person was supposed to be governed by, but not the Monero currency. Unfairness is part of life.Completely removing the biggest base of the 'botnets', which are going to be guys just renting a bunch of EC2 instances and focusing only on the viral software .. just because someone gets richer than me by stealing doesn't mean I should be blaming myself for making too little, or them for too much. What I should be asking is, if they haven't been caught .. then why am I really not doing it? Why wouldn't they be richer than me? They're cheating, stealing things that nobody has 100% control over. Someone is paying for that, it is still maintained that the same market price is paid by all .. nothing is lost and this is not a violation of any physical law. Monero developers can't be crucified for this, no developers (other than the ones actually doing the stealing) can be held in contempt for that .. it just doesnt make sense. It would be neat it if we could all have the exact same processing power, but this world is far from ideal .. and rightly so otherwise we'd probably have little need of cryptocurrencies in the first place.

I just don't get to blame others for my own mental shortcomings .. at least not here in this situation. If I were to steal resources for this like them, I could only really do it by holding up a best buy and grabbing some PC parts to mine with (or spending an infinite amount of time learning programming -- time i don't have now that I have taken a different path to make my livelihood). I don't have the programming aptitude to steal someones GPU for any given about of time remotely. As such, I practically only have the ability to put a few dollars into the market and double it every few weeks though. That ability came with practice. Alternatively, I can pay attention to as much as possible, so I'm first in line when either the market or mines open up. That comes with patience. Practice and patience will often get you much further than theft alone.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 15, 2014, 12:58:56 PM
I posted here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.6260 - about the payments issue and I see more ppl in the last few pages are having the same issues with withdrawals and sending of XMR. Are the devs working on it?

Yeah, the price is going up really fast but this kind of trouble could really hurt it, especially when broader audience after launching on Mintpal starts to encounter it... How do we expect to deposit and withdraw coins anyway?  Huh

BTW, is there some specific amount of XMR which can be sent and withdrawn safely - that it goes to the intended address without the trouble?

That question is answered at least 4 times a day Smiley zone117x is working on it, but if you would like to make it go faster you have been offered the opportunity to fix it on github. The issue has been posted on the monero-project github page.

Be careful when depositing and withdrawing, more so than with the bitcoin protocol. This is still something that needs a lot of help to fit your exact definition of what success/suitable is, but I promise you that very good people are working on getting it up to your standards.

There is no specific amount of XMR that can be sent/withdrawn safely, other than what you personally are comfortable with. Make sure you're using (and who you're receiving from) the updated daemon though! The fee has increased and tx's without that fee will be rejected by the network!
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 15, 2014, 12:52:35 PM
Thanks - do I need to synchronise my wallet as well if I were to use claymore's miner and can nvidia chips be used to mine monero ?

No, only AMD Radeon with this miner software.

cbuchner has decided to announce that he has a fully functional nvidia card miner, but has decided to keep it private for profitability concerns. If you would like, please make comments on his thread either asking nicely to share or offering money if you feel it's necessary. His thread is here. Maybe this will make a difference, but it certainly doesn't hurt to ask.

You do not need to synchronize if you were to use claymore's miner either, you may just run the program that claymore offered.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (MRO) Speculation thread on: June 15, 2014, 12:13:23 PM
lol at your creativeness, but I was specifically referencing whether or not there was one at all on the github .. like this example.

Hell let's not forget the rest!

fantomcoin github : 88 commits, last 18 days ago, 8 contributors, pulse: none

aeon github : 3 commits, last 8 days ago, 0 contributors, pulse: none
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (MRO) Speculation thread on: June 15, 2014, 11:52:05 AM
For anyone trying to measure out their "code update" dicks, please consider taking a look at:

Monero github : 131 commits, last commit 19 hours ago, 12 contributors, pulse: has one

Bytecoin github : 46 commits, last commit May 22, 5 contributors, pulse: non-existant

It's not a competition .. I mean don't you have a Bytecoin speculation thread to be posting all these fudnuggets in?
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 15, 2014, 09:49:05 AM
can I test that my 24 word seed is still ok?

Your seed is a random combination of data that, when produced, will re-produce your wallet, indefinitely.

To see if it's working you can just create a new folder, copy and paste the 'simplewallet' file into that folder. Then execute a script with the simplewallet file but with the flag --restore-deterministic-wallet

It will ask you for a 'new' name for your wallet, a 'new' password, and then the seed.

The new name/pw don't have to be the same as the old one, but it will make a file that is the same wallet regardless of what you choose. You may verify the address/viewkey/tx log independently from there if you wish to go that far.

Check out the missives for a confirmation/better description.


edit: There's no need to worry about moving any files. You may shred them, burn your computer, just lose the password to your wallet file .. etc. As long as you know those words you may restore your wallet no matter what happens.
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Anonymous coins ? on: June 15, 2014, 08:46:37 AM
interesting story.. maybe we do need a better Alt-coin ?

Ccoindesk - ‘Eavesdropping’ Attack Can Unmask Up to 60% of Bitcoin Clients

Not sure if you're serious .. pretty hard to tell .. so I'll give it one go.

Have you even considered what ring signatures coupled with i2p could do for a currency network? That 60% number goes to much less than 1%. You lose the ability to unmask 60% tx's monthly with trivial resources and about $2000 if I remember what the article said correctly?
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (MRO) Speculation thread on: June 15, 2014, 08:26:22 AM

Yeah, take a look at bitcoin and litecoin  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (MRO) Speculation thread on: June 15, 2014, 08:20:10 AM
Oh .. you mean that GPU miner that was out for no more than two weeks before there was a different one available to every single person here? Hell, there's even GPU botnets available to mine right now!

Come on, ya gotta try harder than that Wink I don't think anyone's going to slap their grandmas over having .. what .. let's even 40% of the hashrate for that time gives about 221,760 coins. What's that like 1.2% of the currency? FFS if anything they gave me time to buy in cheap because they consistently dump that straight to market Wink Not like those coins that come straight w/ a premine right out of the first block .. I mean have you seen the volume over the last few weeks? Does it look like these unicorn botnets are hoarding?

Botnets are a non-issue dude, they're a finite resource that most people need to pay for. Anyone owning high end GPU cards should have an antivirus .. end of story (in fact most monero virsues are picked up quite fast these days because of the unicorn botnets). Even then, it's not 'free' money to anyone. It's theft of resources and power (which costs unsuspecting people money if they've been exploited). If you think they're a centralized process, then please provide me proof that there's one botnet in control of such a vast amount of resources? And even then, can you prove to me that the exponentially increasing difficulty and prices won't invite thousands more miners .. negating the effect you seem to be worried about?

They're run for-profit and they're historically dumped onto the market, keeping the price down and smoothing out crazy pumps (this coupled with high emission is a genius combination for penetration IMO). That's only a bad thing if you have a turd coin and demand immediate profit when your coin is still less than a year old. Hell, I have the ability to mine profitably right now .. but I don't. Every hash that I put into the pot right now might put someone else off from getting into this for the first time. I'm already interested .. and have the mental capacity to make more XMR on the market than I do mining it anyhow Cheesy
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero (MRO) Speculation thread on: June 15, 2014, 05:33:31 AM
Yeah, BCN's got a market cap over ten million!!! $10,746,109 at the last price of 12 satoshis. Way to go BCN ... guess I missed that train now all that's left is the crash (hope not). I mean ... who would buy it at such a high price though? As it's clearly a top 10 coin right now, I'll let my savings mature because it'll definitely hold that price Cheesy

Guess I'll just stick with buying more XMR, has so much potential to grow Wink
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 15, 2014, 05:14:24 AM

Looks like it's a cloud computing system for Nvidia GPU mining. Kind of like a lot of Amazon EC2 instances, but these computers have graphics cards.

Clearly whoever it is seems to be offering rented GPU mining for Nvidia through a remote access - the programs are implied to have already been set up.

I answered the other half of your question here
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero technical thread on: June 15, 2014, 05:13:00 AM
Also, how do I send my monero from 1 wallet to another?

In the 'simplewallet' window, type 'transfer w x y z'    , without the ' '

w = the number of transactions you would like yours to be indistinguishable from. called the 'mixin' count. Higher numbers = higher fees and larger size of transaction in bytes. 1-3 seems pretty good. 0 if you'd like to only have a stealth address.

x = the address you want to send to (longer string)

y = the actual amount you want to send

z = the transaction id. this is used so that exchanges can track who is who because they use one wallet to collect all incoming transfers. it is shorter than the wallet address. this is not required, and can be left blank for regular transactions. It is required for sending to an exchange though (or any shared wallet that's technically not just yours)


Do I need to have every single rig of mine synchronized with the existing blockchain in order to mine the coin ?

If you would like to solo mine, yes all machines must be synchronized and running the daemon.

If you would like to pool mine, you can go to any of the pool pages listed in the original post and download the software and follow the instructions on how to set it up on that pool site. Please consider a pool built from source provided by zone117x (I think Wolf0 and mindless just opened one). You will not need the daemon running or synchronized for pool mining. In fact, you won't even need simplewallet or monero software at all (besides the mining program) on every single mining computer. Just need an address to mine to .. so one computer.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 13, 2014, 03:50:27 PM
Whats a good hashrate for CPU, and GPU, and how does profitability compare to other big alts right now?

Bump, can nobody answer this?

The links are in the OP, but here they are:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MI-ic0Os25hgGUImW54sUIjZY_pUNQNa_W8Se5pRGBs/edit?pli=1#gid=0

=0&hashRates[13]=0&hashRates[14]=0&hashRates[17]=0&hashRates[1]=0&hashRates[2]=0&hashRates[3]=0&hashRates[4]=0&hashRates[6]=0&hashRates[9]=0&hashRates[15]=0&hashRates[18]=60&power_consumption=23&power_cost=0.1&oreDiff=21600&volumeType=exchange&volumeMin_BTC=-1&exchangers[]=14&exchangers[]=11&exchangers[]=12&exchangers[]=4&exchangers[]=13&exchangers[]=2&exchangers[]=1&exchangers[]=9&exchangers[]=8&exchangers[]=10&orderBy=0]http://whatmine.com/?search=1&hashRates[12]=0&hashRates[13]=0&hashRates[14]=0&hashRates[17]=0&hashRates[1]=0&hashRates[2]=0&hashRates[3]=0&hashRates[4]=0&hashRates[6]=0&hashRates[9]=0&hashRates[15]=0&hashRates[18]=60&power_consumption=23&power_cost=0.1&oreDiff=21600&volumeType=exchange&volumeMin_BTC=-1&exchangers[]=14&exchangers[]=11&exchangers[]=12&exchangers[]=4&exchangers[]=13&exchangers[]=2&exchangers[]=1&exchangers[]=9&exchangers[]=8&exchangers[]=10&orderBy=0
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 13, 2014, 12:21:57 PM

Nice initiative.
Here are the two ones behind pay walls:

...

Thanks! updated!
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - Secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency on: June 13, 2014, 11:50:09 AM
After about the 14th citation in the CN whitepaper there's no links. I found most of them are available for free online, maybe two are not. Here is the list with links that are easily clickable and in line with the citations as presented in the white paper so that anyone that wants to learn/understand can.

1. http://bitcoin.org

2. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Category:MixingServices - dead link

3. http://blog.ezyang.com/2012/07/secure-multiparty-bitcoin-anonymization/

4. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0 - (an actual citation crediting gmaxwell in their paper Wink )

5. http://msrvideo.vo.msecnd.net/rmcvideos/192058/dl/192058.pdf

6. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0034.mediawiki#Speci%0Ccation.

7. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0016.mediawiki#BackwardsCompatibility

8. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mininghardwarecomparison - dead link

9. https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0050.mediawiki

10. http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/%0Cles/charts/branches.html - dead link

11. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=196259.0

12. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts

13. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script

14. http://litecoin.org

15. Moderately hard, memory-bound functions   

16. Ad-hoc-group signatures from hi-jacked keypairs
   
17. Short linkable ring signatures revisited

18. High-speed high-security signatures
   
19. Group signatures
   
20. Exponential memory-bound functions for proof of work protocols - I like this one the best so far by a lot .. I think it opens the idea well that a PoW protocol can be adapted to much more than just a currency implementation .. and using PoS as a messaging system will have a lot of trouble preventing spam without a PoW (favoring hybrid systems)
   
21. Proofs of partial knowledge and simpli ed design of witness hiding protocols
   
22. On memory-bound functions for fighting spam - another nice one
   
23. Sub-linear size traceable ring signatures without random oracles (free account required?)

24. Traceable ring signature
   
25. Peer review of "quantitative analysis of the full bitcoin transaction graph"
   
26. Linkable spontaneous anonymous group signature for ad hoc groups
   
27. Linkable ring signatures: Security models and new schemes (Link courtesy of binaryFate)

28. Zerocoin: Anonymous distributed e-cash from bitcoin
   
29.  Structure and anonymity of the bitcoin transaction graph
   
30. Universal electronic cash
   
31. The bitcoin transaction graph | anonymity - awesome thesis
   
32. Stronger key derivation via sequential memory-hard functions
   
33. An analysis of anonymity in the bitcoin system
   
34. How to leak a secret - Very nice rundown of what a ring signature is
   
35. Quantitative analysis of the full bitcoin transaction graph
   
36. Analysis of hashrate-based double-spending
   
37. Rational points on certain hyperelliptic curves over finite fields
   
38. Ad hoc group signatures (Link courtesy of binaryFate)

Lastly, here's a pastebin link of all of these: http://pastebin.com/tM2wCW3P
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: June 13, 2014, 08:57:23 AM
its hard to take this thread seriously with no mention of PeerCoin

then againg the concept is waaaaay out infront, and the really loooooong game.

I've rarely looked into peercoin other than maybe its market cap .. nobody really talks about it. After you mentioned it, I decided to check it out. I go to the main website .. $0 marketcap, 0 ppc total supply, whitepaper link 404's, myth 3 isn't even in english, github is almost barren Smiley I'll keep digging on it ... but do you have good sources of information that are still around for it so I don't fumble around aimlessly?
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