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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Could Ripple be “The Killer App” Bitcoin has been looking for? on: January 29, 2016, 12:17:18 AM
Just a matter of time for xrp and lumens to rise in price. Just don't expect anything for a while especially not the consumer transfer of assets killer app for a decade . You did your homework so now do what you want, when you want, how you want. Goodluck.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Stellar on: November 15, 2015, 10:46:07 PM
culuuton: you can see the stats here: https://www.stellar.org/stats/


I thought these units were called lumens now not stellars like it says on that stat page. 
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Price Analysis/Discussion – 9/5/2015 on: September 05, 2015, 03:48:21 PM
http://themerkle.com/market-analysis/ripple-price-analysisdiscussion-952015/

The prices of ripple coin are currently on the incline as investors and users alike one again delve into the updated technology behind the Ripple Coin. Whilst thios ghas come as a timely rise it may not have come soon enough for those who had initially invested only to find values dip in a matter of months. However the current stable but rapid growth propagated by the markets has allowed Ripple Coin to once again climb the ranks coming in only second to Bitcoin in terms of market cap.


The price went from $.0070 to $.07850 this morning but it's in the same trading range it seems like forever now. Just people jumping in and telling others to buy now after them. However, all it takes is one announcement for an article like this to get lucky.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple trade closed for US citizens on: August 31, 2015, 09:03:34 PM
Lol no doubt. I guess their merger with Western Union might be off the table now.  Roll Eyes

What does this say about all exchanges? I mean this pretty much was an exchange issue. Are exchanges in US going to have to move their services abroad? Is the US making it too difficult for them to function properly and operate?

It looks like the US is going to lose out big time on crypto by imposing all these regulations. They had a good change to be one of the crypto financial hubs, but I don't see that happening anymore.
Seems like a main hub will be Luxembourg.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: PayPal and Visa veteran Allenbach, hired by Ripple.. on: August 31, 2015, 09:00:25 PM
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PayPal and Visa Veteran to Help Drive Company's Rapid Growth as Provider of Global Financial Settlement Technology

https://xrptalk.org/topic/7339-bret-allenbach-joins-ripple-labs-as-chief-financial-officer/

Ripple aint some kids playin games. Das all I'm sayin

They have all the connections, but just can't get cash on the protocol. Maybe 4th quarter 2016
66  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Digital dollar? on: July 19, 2015, 03:36:40 PM
Everyday it seems there's a new article about a new currency in October. Its just pure speculation based on annual meetings by the IMF. Also China and Russia are doing whatever they can to get away from having to convert to the dollar for things, its just not fair. They want their own swift system so they don't have to worry about the USA getting in the middle of everything.

One scam going on here is being told to buy the Yuan now after everyone else has already been in for a while because its value will increase when the IMF names the communist country a reserve currency.
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Stellar on: July 04, 2015, 11:09:48 AM
Now that it looks like we are on the verge of a new crypto bull run, does anybody of you expect Stellar to join the ride?

No..  Too much issues and a possible pending lawsuit on Jed McCaleb.

This is all true (Jed taken off the board at Stellar and may have to forfeit XRP's )but STR will still follow and increase if the others do.  However, I still only have around the 6k given from the start.
68  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin goes to 1200-1300 within a month. on: July 03, 2015, 05:54:58 AM
very much doubt 1200.. we still have marshal auction.. i think price is not going anywhere until, at the very least, that is done. i still doubt price will do much until obama is out of office.. if price does not improve after the halving then this will be a moral breaker..... bitcoin is trending like precious metals now... down... with few bursts upwards that are later pushed back down.. this is done to keep people from buying precious metals ... moral is very low in precious metals ... however, i doubt it will stay down.. eventually it will break through by force and move violently upwards.


in this kind of market it is the best move to keep buying more... i like to buy more and just leave em pissed about it... then, the 'champion of gay guys' obama will do stupid stuff based upon being pissed off. lol . ...

What does Obama got to do with bitcoin?  Cheesy


you would be surprised... ask yourself what obama has to do with the 700M ripoff of ripple earlier this year .. if you want, you could wait until the very last minute just after the "big block of cheese day" arrives.

I don't like surprises.

But to be clear, you're saying Obama was the reason for the XRP pump and will be for this month's bitcoin pump?

If so, I can't wait till "big block of cheese day".
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: RBS Trials Ripple as Part of £3.5 Billion Tech Revamp on: June 27, 2015, 12:32:01 AM
lol ripple? .. its not even a blockchain.. RBS are wasting 3.5billion on yet another centralised system......... im lost for words

Centralised system so that they can control?

Corporations and corporate officers are directly legally liable for everything...
Therefore, they have no choice but to centralize and control every last detail of corporate business...
Or you might spend 5 years of your life in litigation...

(Which, btw, this will happen to many actors here once FinCEN gets up to speed...
Right now they are wiping up the low hanging fruit like drugs, ponzis... Gen 2.0 platforms that issue "securities" will be next).

So anarchistic, decentralized uptopian visions are unworkable in a world with legal systems...
Outside the system you get a big hive of chaotic or fraudulent activity that is the Bitcoin and BitcoinTalk ecosystem.

Since highly structured banks and corporations have 100s of billions of $$$ to throw at this...
We will see the dominance of "permissioned distributed ledgers" as explained in this paper..
And since Ripple is run by adults, they get this basic fact... and have been targeting the real world for 3 years:

http://www.ofnumbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Permissioned-distributed-ledgers.pdf


If one were to think or believe that this will happen:

"Since highly structured banks and corporations have 100s of billions of $$$ to throw at this..."

Will these banks and everything else that come on Ripple enrich the early individual adopters "Boom" just like that so easily by putting billions on the network therefore increasing the price of XRP?

When else have banks done this for a market based asset that hasn't been for the ownership of a regulated "private sourced" security before or after the IPO? Or will you tell me they have to in order to survive?

70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XRP - Ripple on: June 20, 2015, 01:39:53 PM
God27, you may know more about it than I do, but doesn't Ripple Labs sell all the original Ripple?  Isn't that how Ripple gets created?  You buy it from Ripple Labs?  It makes sense that they'd say that they plan to be minority holders.  I would too if I were them.  If I could sell off a 100% premined coin to users and then be a "minority holder" that sounds pretty ideal.

I see what your saying. Id say of the 80% xrp produced, ripple labs is selling in bulk to gateways but also freely distributing to others building ontop the protocol and also using xrp as an asset to pay off lobbying and lawyer fees. 

They don't want somebody or group to gather xrp's freely now just to save up and spam the network later on making transaction cost no better than any other payment system out there.

The more ripple is used the more demand for xrp there will be. The higher demand for xrp will make the makers of ripple rich for providing us the best regulated cross border value system out there.

This in turn provides more purchasing power for Ripple Labs to pay its engineers and for Rippleworks to be in a great position to provide a banking network to the underbanked. There is money to be made on the next 2bil people in the world that will be using the internet for the first time in the coming years.

The banks holding the people's money are easier to sell to rather than the people themselves.

I dont see a better way to send value across borders as cheap, safe, and compliant against terrorism funding as ripple. However, I do admit I am pessimistic on how much transaction savings by banks using the ripple ledger($20billion) will trickle down to the consumer. This makes people mad that the banks are stealing satoshi's open source ideas just to profit off them and cause another worldwide financial crisis. But behold there are ways for individual use of ripple through companys like SnapSwap and Gatehub that will bring liquidity to the people.


71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XRP - Ripple on: June 20, 2015, 04:50:06 AM
What are your thoughts on XRP, I invested 1 BTC about a month ago, which I later exchanged for other crypto that was stolen from me after some guy hacked my polo account...But all the posts that I read never include Ripple as a crypto that has potential. Anybody care to explain why ? I see it has great potential since it has become a mainstream crypto and has a great dev team with a vision, while also maintaining its price without huge fluctuations, making it a very sensible investment.

New to the world of cryptocurrency and Bitcoin Smiley
Would love to read some of your responses


On the assumption that you're actually curious about why Ripple isn't really considered much around here, it has a lot to do with the centralization.  Whereas the "altcoin" family are all, to some degree, clones of bitcoin (yes, they vary the algorithms and the block rates and ceter, but the hallmark is a decentralized ledger kept on a P2P network), Ripple, as far as I understand it, is owned and operated by a single company which, while using some cryptography to secure transactions, doesn't have the main factors that people here find crucial.  The main one of those being decentralization---trustlessness.  The main idea thesis of Satoshi's white paper is how to create a trustless exchange system that doesn't rely on a third party.  People here find that crucial.  I hope this helps.

Ahh I see what you mean, thankyou for clarifying Smiley

I think Ripple Labs plans on being a minority stakeholder in xrp's and at the same time have xrp's distributed to "who and what" legally utilitize the network to make the world's financial markets more efficient.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Ripple Labs' Ryan Zagone, Elected to Fed Steering Committee for Faster Payments on: June 15, 2015, 11:13:15 PM
https://ripple.com/blog/ripple-labs-elected-to-fed-steering-committee-for-faster-payments/

Ripple Labs is honored to have Ryan Zagone, Head of Research on the Business Development team, elected to the Federal Reserve’s Faster Payments Task Force Steering Committee.

The Fed launched the Faster Payments Task Force earlier this year to engage stakeholders in payments and advance the vision outlined in its January report, Strategies for Improving the U.S. Payment System.


The task force attracted over 300 participants across a diverse range of segments including financial institutions, technology providers, trade groups, end users, businesses, payment networks, government, and more.

To help guide the task force, a 16-member steering committee was elected to represent the working group’s numerous stakeholders.

As part of the Task Force Steering Committee, Ripple Labs is humbled to have been elected by our peers to be a voice of the technology and non-bank service provider sector.

At Ripple, Ryan works with financial institutions, regulators, and central banks on infrastructure efforts and faster payments initiatives globally. His experience includes efforts in the U.S., U.K., the Single Euro Payments Area, and Canada.

Prior to joining Ripple, Ryan focused on payments innovation and retail bank strategy at Deloitte. He previously worked on regulatory relations and economic research at the American Bankers Association.

Regarding the election, Ryan said, “It’s a privilege to be selected. I look forward to leveraging Ripple’s global experience as the task force assess ways to increase speed, efficiency, access to, and competition in payments.”

“I will continue Ripple Labs’ constructive approach in working with peers, bank partners, and the broader financial industry—including NACHA, IPFA, and the W3C.”

“Above all, I am committed to being an open and inclusive presence on the task force, representing the priorities and concerns of fellow non-bank service providers.”
73  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2015-06-12] Russia's Central Bank Meets With Finance Reps for Bitcoin Talks on: June 13, 2015, 01:25:12 AM
Russia can profit from this if they accept xrp's from fidor.ru so why not. But it would be sad if this prosperous digital funding age behind the scenes funded a WWIII scenario.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any possibility to hit the Litecoin price @ $600 ? on: June 13, 2015, 12:33:24 AM
All altcoins will be worth pennies on the dollar even with inflation.  Its just a matter of time.  Not if but when. However, in the meantime there is money to be made.

LTC will still be fun and remembered as a success and still be used. But more like 600 for a pizza.

75  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there an actual Bitcoin bank yet? on: June 07, 2015, 01:08:30 PM
It will be more of an online efficient tech startup company that is compliant using a brand new financial api ontop the ripple protocol that you will earn interest on rather than any slow evolving bank.
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is this the end of RIPPLE / XRP ? on: June 02, 2015, 09:04:04 PM

E-mail from Ripple
If you wish to continue using Ripple Trade to access the Ripple network, Ripple Labs will require you to submit personally identifiable information similar to what you would provide to open a bank account, such as your full name, address, national ID number, date of birth, and possibly a copy of your driver’s license or other identifying documents. We will use this information to verify your identity for compliance purposes.

IF YOU DO NOT WISH TO CONTINUE USING RIPPLE TRADE, YOU MUST WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS FROM RIPPLE TRADE NO LATER THAN AUGUST 30, 2015 AND ALSO RECORD YOUR SECRET KEY SO THAT YOU CAN ACCESS THE RIPPLE NETWORK OUTSIDE OF RIPPLE TRADE.


I don't think this is a good idea for the value and adopters of Ripple..?

Yea this is the end of the wild wild west. Best to pay capital gains now in the US or go down like Al Capone.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple: How to get free XRP?? on: June 01, 2015, 11:20:08 PM
Guys please give coins to the test  rpWXZEoVkSm6ZYnY4rrSLpptKvPFYeNrKT

You really raised this one from the dead Smiley

Better hurry up, something seems to be happening over there. But to have an account you will need to give up the same info as you do with your bank.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [2015-05-29] CD: Australia's Commonwealth Bank Latest to Experiment With Ripple on: May 29, 2015, 08:05:57 PM
I am scratching my head a little at this.  Why would they wan tto use ripple, a fairly obscure crypto instead of one with a higher market cap such as litecoin or bitcoin?  Maybe Taun is correct and it is just a pump and dump.  If so not a bad time to put a few pennies in I guess, but its easy to get burned if you are not careful.

Australia's Commonwealth Bank using litecoin or bitcoin? Wow, I don't think you understand ripple.  This whole contagious market cap reasoning has been plaguing this forum for far too long now.  Its not all about the digital currency on these protocols.  There's much more to it.  Plus XRP could pass bitcoin's market cap in one day. Who even says banks like these are using xrp's besides transaction cost? I'd like to see these 30 banks put millions of IOU's onto the protocol and come out and say they aren't using XRP for anything besides transaction cost and reserves.

Choosing and experimenting ripple is a little like being speechless and dumbfounded about Satoshi's ledger invention but at the same time being compliant with AML/KYC. However, ripple will be saving these banks BIG money on cross border transactions but will hardly be passed down to the consumer.

79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is Ripple dumping XRP to pay their fine? on: May 17, 2015, 04:36:05 PM
The price of XRP has been pretty stable for 2 or 3 months but has now dropped to levels not seen since 11/14.  Could this be Ripple selling XRP to pay their government fine?
lol no, its a company (with about 40 staff) and it sets theprice  to whatever it feels is right to sell the xrp's which did cost anything to produce and can be copied endless times over.
An xrp will never be yours they may allow you to hold some and thats about it.
The fine is loos change for them and nothing more than a Charade.

I'd estimate 90 employees and 5 interns.  But yea, definitely just loose change for Ripple Labs. Seems like they went quickest way possible by lobbying for a compliance level to officially be able to send their bloodthirsty sales force across the world like Matthew Mellon.



What do you mean Ripple Labs sets the XRP price?
Exactly what it says.
As it is a centralized company they have full control of the price. If they want the price to go up they simple dont dump for a day. Unlike Bitcoin where a set number of coins is mined a day and noone can say no new coins today.
Ripple has only one indention to know when, where, what cola you drank, where you have spent some money, when you farded, what you eat, what you earn, basically you end up being a marionette.

Even the marionettes get lucky sometimes...
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: XRP ( RIPPLE ) Discussion - All about XRP on: May 12, 2015, 01:59:23 AM
I agree that coinmarketcap.com is weak. I am most interested in the Total Network Value metric on ripplecharts.com, for long term network growth perspective. It reflects not only the value of XRP, but also the total value of assets traded on the network. I am not focused on short term speculation, however, so it may be a less useful metric for others.

I disagree that the breadth of XRP utility limits its potential exchange value. XRP can be used to make payments directly, the same as with any cryptocurrency. Everything else is in addition. If Bitcoin added multi-currency support---requiring the usage of BTC for that functionality---I would consider that a plus in support of BTC's future potential exchange value. In no way does XRP providing that utility guarantee the price will rise, but it does introduce additional future potential justification for a rise in exchange value.

I'm not invested in ripple atm but do agree, I think it only takes a glance at ripple to see they have the formula for success, all the right people on board and all the right palms ready to grease. even if what we have today is a bastardization of fuggers original vision, it's understandable why RL took the approach they have. They're operating at levels litecoin-fork shitcoin creators couldn't dream of and got VC cash to burn through, partnerships on tables, keynotes to deliver. They will be operating like a well oiled machine, marching forward strategically while people here are still stuck on digging out dogcoins with dusty gpu's hoping to get rich

I see ripple/btc a bit like money & antimoney http://phys.org/news/2014-04-econophysics-antimoney-financial-crisis.html Both can be complimentary and Ripple has some obvious direct benefits and some non-obvious benefits to traditional finance system for an average guy that end up trickling down, giving rl themselves a good value proposition. The kind of infrastructure they have built, the kinds of people they can appease with their polish is more favorable as a natural evolution or re-vision of legacy finance system than bitcoin is, although btc-> bank bridge like epiphyte for bitcoin helps a little.  

 I see no reason that the market, especially big players won't drive price this 'anti-spam' token up further than they have already, it's the closest they have to shares in the ripple protocol actually using xrp directly as a 'currency' is a further stretch, Even bitcoin suffers the same pitfalls, switching between a hoarded commodity and currency. Suppose at the end of the day anything can happen- all it takes is a combined belief of many.

Do you have any evidence that Ripple Labs is making money... and not just burning through cash?

With > 100 employees they are burning through at least $20,000,000/year. Maybe more.

Does XRP legally entitled anyone to a "share" of anything?

Can XRP be done away with in a major merger with a bank and replaced by a stock offering for employees?

Ripple started as a kind of "people's money" with "trust circles"...
But it was all complete bullshit as a way of co-opting the Bitcoin ecosystem to bootstrap a banking network.

The Ripple executives are completely ruthless and untrustworthy...
They don't give a shit about small users or small investors except to use them for liquidity and PR.

That's why I will trade almost anything... but would never touch XRP.

"Ruthless" seems to be one of the main traits for the people on the billionaires list. Sometimes you make money riding on the back of the ruthless and sometimes you lose it all. 



I would just hate to be the person at work a year from now doing the daily grind overhearing a little prick's conversation saying "Dude, I'm telling you, buy this thing called XRP at 3 dollars a piece and you will retire in 10 years."  All while you could of bought it at $.008 
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