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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. Release in 24 hours. on: May 09, 2013, 11:36:59 AM
Edit: Some graphics. I give them away as Public Domain. I'll post a SVG if people seriusly wants to use them.



This is probably the _BEST_ logo I've seen for all cyptcoins including bitcoin.

Well done.  You are obviously talented.

Whose going to setup an official website for the most awesome YaCoin?

holy shit this was inspired by yaks

62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 09, 2013, 11:17:25 AM
nano
vim
vi
gedit
kate

all suitable replacements

(Last two only if you're running a GUI)

Also, instead of editor /home/"YOURUSERNAME"/
type

texteditor(choose from above, I.E. vim) ~/.yacoin/yacoin.conf
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 09, 2013, 11:15:57 AM
BTW, Who wants to be the first to buy a pizza with YAC?  Grin
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 09, 2013, 11:14:56 AM
Any speculation on prices?

I think it's being traded at 0.0005 YAC/BTC tops right now. But with how difficulty is increasing I'm not sure price will remain that low. Right now the network is minting 300 coins per minute, it's going to take a lot of days to reach coin 3 million, but we'll see after the N++ event.

We gon' b rich
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 09, 2013, 11:08:47 AM
423 YAC



When will this go on exchanges?

I have an itch to scratch Smiley

48-72 hours

When it gets on an exchange.
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ABOUT YAC AND JKC on: May 09, 2013, 11:07:05 AM
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Official YACOIN Orphan Blocks Thread on: May 09, 2013, 10:57:00 AM
Only a few can mine this shit, i try whit my 3 xeons and 2 FX-8 (900 khs) and only find 1 block and hundreds orphans in 11 hours, I configure properly the client and mi connection.  Man !!!  Huh

q6600

382 yac


amd A8 ran for ~30 min

41 yac

problem, officer?
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 09, 2013, 12:11:58 AM
For those of you who don't realize why there was a flood of coins, and orphaned blocks (For the mentally challenged)

DIFFICULTY LOW

BLOCK EASY TO SOLVE
EASY.

OKAY.
SO.

EASY BLOCK MEAN YOU CAN SOLVE AT SAME TIME AS SOMEONE ELSE.

DIFFICULTY SO LOW THAT MANY BLOCK FOUND IN SHORT TIME

HOWEVER

DIFFICULTY ALSO SO LOW THAT MANY BLOCK FOUND AT SAME TIME

SO ANYONE WITH LOW END PIECE OF SHIT COMPUTER CAN MINE MANY BLOCKS IN SHORT TIME SPAN

THEY ALSO MINE BLOCKS AT SAME TIME, SO MANY, MANY ORPHANS.

DIFFICULTY READJUSTING, VERY FAST NOW

SO BLOCK BECOMING HARDER TO FIND

AND REWARD DECREASING AS DIFFICULTY GET HIGHER

SO YAC GET MORE AND MORE RARE

/thread
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 09, 2013, 12:07:12 AM
Amazes me that 1.8 million of these were mined in like 14 seconds (slight exaggeration but not much).  Despite that, people are CUTTING IN LINE to hand those early miners, likely bot nets, their hard earned BTC.

WHY ?!?  The crypto mania has reached a crescendo with this coin.  FTC and CHN were sketchy but this takes the cake.  CPU only.  WAT ?!
Or, you could actually take a second to realize that difficulty was so fscking low that you could solve a block with a pencil and a piece of paper

yep, that's why huge number of people with better things than pencil haven't mind anything or almost anything but orphans.

Yeah, I have a C64 and still nothing.

K.

70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 09, 2013, 12:05:21 AM
Amazes me that 1.8 million of these were mined in like 14 seconds (slight exaggeration but not much).  Despite that, people are CUTTING IN LINE to hand those early miners, likely bot nets, their hard earned BTC.

WHY ?!?  The crypto mania has reached a crescendo with this coin.  FTC and CHN were sketchy but this takes the cake.  CPU only.  WAT ?!
Or, you could actually take a second to realize that difficulty was so fscking low that you could solve a block with a pencil and a piece of paper

yep, that's why huge number of people with better things than pencil haven't mind anything or almost anything but orphans.
You do realize how orphan blocks work

Right?

I'd hope that someone with an 800+ post count would know
71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 09, 2013, 12:02:14 AM
Amazes me that 1.8 million of these were mined in like 14 seconds (slight exaggeration but not much).  Despite that, people are CUTTING IN LINE to hand those early miners, likely bot nets, their hard earned BTC.

WHY ?!?  The crypto mania has reached a crescendo with this coin.  FTC and CHN were sketchy but this takes the cake.  CPU only.  WAT ?!
Or, you could actually take a second to realize that difficulty was so fscking low that you could solve a block with a pencil and a piece of paper
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:57:53 PM
How many YAC are in the developer's hands right now?  1.79 million?

And how many of those "selling YAC for ..." are real transactions?  If not, who is the imbecile paying BTC for some deeply flawed brand new coin?  I suppose a fool and his money are easily parted but this is borderline ridiculous.  Might as well just cut a check to the developer and his friends and dispense with the charade of transferring YAC

I've seen no evidence there is an abnormally large amount of YAC in the developers hands. Also no reason to think the for sale threads aren't genuine. A lot of people want to get in on it because if history repeats itself there is a good chance of these coins becoming highly valuable in the future.
I sure hope so. I'm holding my coins. I wanna see the guys who were selling them off for pennies, go oops.
even if they debut on an exchange for 0.003, that's a lot of money lost

♫Hoooooold♫
♫For the longest time♫
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:54:32 PM
How many YAC are in the developer's hands right now?  1.79 million?

And how many of those "selling YAC for ..." are real transactions?  If not, who is the imbecile paying BTC for some deeply flawed brand new coin?  I suppose a fool and his money are easily parted but this is borderline ridiculous.  Might as well just cut a check to the developer and his friends and dispense with the charade of transferring YAC

I've seen no evidence there is an abnormally large amount of YAC in the developers hands. Also no reason to think the for sale threads aren't genuine. A lot of people want to get in on it because if history repeats itself there is a good chance of these coins becoming highly valuable in the future.

Right.
And unlike the other scamcoins, this actually has changes to the algo to make it truly different
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:52:07 PM

No, you just don't get it. It makes no difference what is starting difficulty, if altcoin is supposed to confirm transactions in 60 seconds on average than it should adjust to 60
seconds as fast as possible. YAC difficulty adjustment is wrong. It is terribly slow. Developer did the same mistake as we saw with like 5 other altcoins launched lately, and that
is because he is either noob or intentionaly made it so he and other early miners get insane high rewards in short period of time.

You are attempting to justify the scam here, my friend.

That's cool, I'm asking why it's slow.

You replied by giving examples of TRC, where if a block isn't found the difficulty readjusts midblock to lower it so a block can be found more easily. In other words if the target was 60 seconds, it had been 90 seconds since the last block the difficulty would decrease without a block find being required.

I'm asking how you would solve the difficulty increasing more rapidly if it's being solved to fast. I.e. Target is 60 seconds, a block is found in 30 seconds, and the difficulty readjusts to aim for the next block being 60 seconds (difficulty * 2), which I believe is the current system. What are you saying should change?

Maximum difficulty multiplier should go up, a lot.

Give it time, Mister Bitcoin Megastore in Altcoin Forums

Why because someone interested in bitcoin's can't be interested in alt coins? Shut the fuck up, you keep going on like you're saying something clever when you're just making yourself look like an idiot.

I'm sorry, I genuinely have nothing better to do right now other than point out how the Bitcoin Megastore was late to mining, and is going to do everything possible to try to make YACoin seem like a failure.

Or someshit like that
Maybe
Maybe not
I'm too fscking bored to care
75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:48:14 PM

No, you just don't get it. It makes no difference what is starting difficulty, if altcoin is supposed to confirm transactions in 60 seconds on average than it should adjust to 60
seconds as fast as possible. YAC difficulty adjustment is wrong. It is terribly slow. Developer did the same mistake as we saw with like 5 other altcoins launched lately, and that
is because he is either noob or intentionaly made it so he and other early miners get insane high rewards in short period of time.

You are attempting to justify the scam here, my friend.

That's cool, I'm asking why it's slow.

You replied by giving examples of TRC, where if a block isn't found the difficulty readjusts midblock to lower it so a block can be found more easily. In other words if the target was 60 seconds, it had been 90 seconds since the last block the difficulty would decrease without a block find being required.

I'm asking how you would solve the difficulty increasing more rapidly if it's being solved to fast. I.e. Target is 60 seconds, a block is found in 30 seconds, and the difficulty readjusts to aim for the next block being 60 seconds (difficulty * 2), which I believe is the current system. What are you saying should change?

Maximum difficulty multiplier should go up, a lot.

Give it time, Mister Bitcoin Megastore in Altcoin Forums
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:36:08 PM
So people understand why it's a lot harder, about 14 hours ago the difficulty was 0.00028532, now it's 0.03302380 - 115 times harder.

It should ramp up waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster. I invested in YAC but it is not like I'm proud of it. As soon as price goes up, I'll sell all and move to some fair coin. I just
wish to see new altcoin where everything works well from the start, including starting difficulty. Maybe a pool or few as well, or even some actual use for the coin before it even
is launched. That would mark it serious altcoin.

As I understand it, it adjusts difficulty on a per block basis according to the network hashrate, what further difficulty adjustment would you suggest?

If it's low difficulty it's only because no one is mining it, if it's high difficulty it's because a lot of people are mining it. Completely working as intended as far as I know....

Do you understand that it should be 1 block per minute? Since YAC started it is like 1 block per few seconds, just sometimes it takes more for one to be found. That means
difficulty multiplier is not properly set, it does not react fast enough on hashrate being added or removed from YAC network. Ideally, difficulty should rump up fast enough to
have periods inbetween blocks similar to 3 seconds - 15 seconds - 30 secods - 60 seconds.

Yep I'm with you it should be 1 block per minute. I'm saying that as I understand it, the difficulty is adjusted per block. If that is true - how do you expect difficulty to ever adjust faster? There will always be variance in between blocks as hashrates are added / removed from the network. Not saying you're necessarily wrong, just thinking out loud.

Variance is almost irrelevant if altcoin uses mechanic as TRC is using, where difficulty is halved if block is not found after some amount of time. In case of YAC, that would be like
2 minutes. So, if difficulty goes like 3 - 15 - 30 - 60 seconds and than block is not found for 2 minutes, difficulty would drop to 30. 2 more minutes without block and difficulty drops
to 15 etc. With such adjusting it really makes no difference how much hashrate you add or remove, those miners who would stay would not have to wait too long to find a block.
and those with massive hashrate would not profit much from jumping on and off the chain.

Hmm I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. That method is fine for adjusting for sudden changes in hashrate that TRC was suffering, but that was caused by ASICs jumping on / off and leaving it stranded at high difficulties. The difficulty wouldn't adjust quickly because it couldn't get to a block to readjust. That isn't a problem with this coin, as the hash rate is fairly consistent (increasing). It also has the effect of difficulty moving around like a spastic child on red cordial, which I'm happy to avoid if we can. In this situation the difficulty adjustment mechanism is fine how it is.

You seem to be under the impression (or I'm misinterpreting) that the reason people are not getting blocks is because the difficulty is to high, like it's been pumped up and left stranded while people left. It's not the case, it's simply the fact that solo mining is hard, especially when people are used to pools, and they aren't used to hours without a block. If someone was mining litecoin in the same manner they wouldn't on average find a block for 116 days - but there is nothing wrong with the difficulty adjustment.

No, you just don't get it. It makes no difference what is starting difficulty, if altcoin is supposed to confirm transactions in 60 seconds on average than it should adjust to 60
seconds as fast as possible. YAC difficulty adjustment is wrong. It is terribly slow. Developer did the same mistake as we saw with like 5 other altcoins launched lately, and that
is because he is either noob or intentionaly made it so he and other early miners get insane high rewards in short period of time.

You are attempting to justify the scam here, my friend.

Still doesn't change the fact that you're a Bitcoin Megastore in Altcoin territory.
77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:28:01 PM
Everyone's complaining
and I'm just sitting here
mining blocks

No one cares. You are shit who attempted to rip off pocopoco code and launch half-finished YAC or even total clone of NVC yesterday, aren't you? Just STFU finaly.

I clearly stated that It IS his code
And it wasn't a clone of NVC, it was a very nearly finished version of YAC.



Also, what the f Huh is a Bitcoin Megastore doing in an altcoin thread
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:21:54 PM
Everyone's complaining
and I'm just sitting here
mining blocks
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:17:18 PM
Got another block on my AMD A8-5600k
 Grin
80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][YAC] yacoin: yet another altcoin. START is now. on: May 08, 2013, 11:04:52 PM
Still finding blocks
i'm gon b rich yo
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