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61  Economy / Economics / Re: selling my mined btc for euro instead of usd on: November 24, 2014, 07:45:58 PM
I think there is a problem that if the Bitcoin mining, currency exchange rates used is other than the US dollar, for example, the euro, the euro is now becoming one of the major competitors in terms of currency for European countries, it was made to drop the dollar dominance world, if you are using the euro as currency exchange rates on your mining, then it can increase price competition between the dollar and the euro, hopefully bitcoin prices will further increase and stable ...  Cool

Wow... you really think a crypto coin with a market capital of less then $5 Billion USD can drive the price of a currency like the Euro ? (or any currency for that matter.)

Dreaming pretty high here! So high the line is a point.





62  Economy / Economics / Re: selling my mined btc for euro instead of usd on: November 24, 2014, 07:23:32 PM
EUR is trash these days. Get on some migthy dollar, it cant fail.

That is why you want to invest in Euro... because it is trash now.

Buy High Sell Low Much?

How low is low and how high is high?

Trend trading is much better and you can make up the profit difference by winning more often.

I would disagree.. Trend trading will drive you to make more trades than you need to. And to secure a profit you will have to be right on every or most trades. The probabilities of that happening are low.

The reason I say buy Euro or Yen or Ruble is because they are priced at years lows. And we know neither of those currencies are going belly up. You may not see a return profit in a month or two months but you will get more ROI in the long run. And you won't have to be glued to your screen every day. Unless that's what you like...

But I will agree with you that if you are into day trading or swing trading, buy when they buy and sell when they sell. Just because day traders can do it fast enough.

63  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 24, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
TA simply doesn't work on bitcoin. Trend trading might work for a while.

Tell that to all the traders.

In fact, I think that bitcoin can be more predictable than stocks.
64  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 24, 2014, 05:07:19 PM

LOL
65  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 24, 2014, 04:35:57 PM
Bitcoin price update below

Today's price action has actually moved MACD above for a BUY signal. Circled in red on the middle chart

If this week closes like it, I would be a bigger buyer.

In fact, I would probably add a coin or two at this position.

66  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 24, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
So basically if I ignore everything said and just focus on one point i can amuse by this time next year the bitcoin price will be between $86 and $260. Those prices would still make many people wealth if the damn difficulty didn't rise so high so fast this year. I would have been wealthy if my home miners didn't become obsolete so fast.

So that's the reason why I wanted to share some technical analysis. Difficulty versus price.

Bitcoin is much alike Gold in so many ways. And mining is one of them. Need to invest hard to gain hard. Difficulty levels makes it impossible for people without the hardware to mine anything while being profitable.

But Bitcoin trades much like any stock... in fact, I would say Bitcoin is now a little more predictable than most stocks. The reason, it trades mostly on algorithms and patterns. There is no Downgrade or Upgrade by a firm (that I know) that moves bitcoin's price.

So there is trading. You'd be surprised how many people trade bitcoin.

I don't see the end of Bitcoin like a lot of people are trying to tell you. But I don't hoard bitcoins. But I do save a coin or two.

I think we may be nearing a bottom based on the technicals. I bought some yesterday through CoinBase, and I will add more if it starts going to the levels I mentioned above.

GL
67  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What does ROI and escrow mean? on: November 24, 2014, 04:32:19 AM
Hi forumers!!!!!

What does ROI and escrow mean?


Thanks advance
and
God Bless!!!!!

escrow is a financial instrument held by a third party on behalf of the other two parties in a transaction. The funds are held by the escrow service until it receives the appropriate written or oral instructions or until obligations have been fulfilled

RoI = Return of Investment

+1

Escrow is a person or an institution that both of you trust to hold the money while negotiations and paper work takes place. The need for an escrow sometimes is to prove the funds are available and the buyer is not playing games.
68  Economy / Speculation / Re: btc china depth is staggering on: November 24, 2014, 03:11:03 AM
I'm interested to know too... but everyone seems to be more concern about the place for this post.
69  Economy / Economics / Re: selling my mined btc for euro instead of usd on: November 24, 2014, 02:05:20 AM
The safest option is always to diversify. Get both currencies, $ and €. Some Swiss francs and British pounds are also nice.


I agree with diversification in general but the idea above is terrible.

In the case of currencies you are pretty much generating a Zero Net Return. For instance the dollar goes up, the euro goes down. And viceversa, that is how it works.

Diversification that works would be buying into a currency, then into a commodities like coffee, and then get some equities like stocks in Apple.
70  Economy / Economics / Re: selling my mined btc for euro instead of usd on: November 23, 2014, 08:37:42 PM
EUR is trash these days. Get on some migthy dollar, it cant fail.

That is why you want to invest in Euro... because it is trash now.

Buy High Sell Low Much?
71  Economy / Speculation / Re: What to expect from bitcoin in December 2014? on: November 23, 2014, 07:00:19 PM
I don't expect nothing of  exceptional , But I hope to see again the price of bitcoin near 500 $ .

Check my post, I will be updating it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=869082.0

All of the trades the make the prices move are on auto mode. None of us impact the price. So the price acts like a stock and follows the same patterns and rules.

Technically speaking, it is ready for a huge rally.

72  Economy / Speculation / Re: What to expect from bitcoin in December 2014? on: November 23, 2014, 06:47:37 PM
Expect price to go below 100 if the widely expected November rocket failed to launch.

Nahh we'll not see below 100 prices, but near there if indeed the hype fails yet again.

We could potentially see prices at around $86 if there is another sell off. When is the government selling their stash? That may cause it to drop hard.

But for every seller is a buyer so who knows.
73  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whats the Fastest way to get like 0.004 BTC for free? on: November 23, 2014, 06:21:47 PM
Need 0.004 for gambliing on PD and need to know some methods to get that amount fast(I can triple this amount easily everytime)

I'll send that to you if you let us know a little about yourself.
74  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 23, 2014, 06:07:03 PM


Here is a daily chart showing how strong this falling channel is:

75  Economy / Economics / Re: selling my mined btc for euro instead of usd on: November 23, 2014, 05:59:35 PM
To OP,

your profile says you live in New York... so why buy Euros?

The USD is very strong and may get stronger against Euro an other currencies. But perhaps, if you don't need the money right away, you may want to sell the Bitcoin to Euros, or even Japanese Yen. Something that has been beaten up. And wait until these currencies bounce.

If you feel like you can place  riskier bet, I would trade them to Russian Rubles and wait a year or so to triple your money Smiley



76  Economy / Speculation / Re: What to expect from bitcoin in December 2014? on: November 23, 2014, 05:48:27 PM
To OP,

When did you first acquire the coins, at what price?

You have about $1000 worth, you need $300 more.

You could sell 2, keep the profits ($720). Hold the one and sell if it bounces to around 600 (Your extra $300ish).

If the coin drops to around $300, buy them cheap and ride them to the next bounce.

Check my post here for some more info.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=869082.0

77  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 23, 2014, 05:36:55 PM
Money serves to regulate consumption and, thus, comprises failings thereabout.

Quote from: Leo Tolstoy, Tolstoy (1988) by A. N. Wilson, p. 146. link=http://izquotes.com/quote/273222
The truth is that the State is a conspiracy designed not only to exploit, but above all to corrupt its citizens… Henceforth, I shall never serve any government anywhere.

Thanks for the quotes Smiley I'm just sharing analysis on the coin.
78  Other / Beginners & Help / Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 23, 2014, 07:33:42 AM

I posted this study on the Economics section but I thought perhaps Newbies would like to get an idea of the current state of Bitcoin.

Hi everyone,

This is my first post on the forum and I just wanted to share some technical analysis on bitcoin price.

The price as time of posting is $358.05 USD.

Last year in December the same coin was valued at 3.24 times today's price peaking at around $1160, or close to it.

Such drops in bitcoin price are not new in the history of the coin. Almost and exact drop happened at the beginning of 2013, when some people too were calling for the end of the coin. A massive selloff from $250's to the $70's. The factor is about the same as the current drop in price at around 3.4.

Of course, a drop from a thousand USD to the hundreds will get your attention. Percentage wise they are equal. And I am sure if we go back to later years we will find similar drops.

OK, so now to the current state of the coin based data form the surge in price from Nov 2013 to today, chart weekly:

1. The coin has been on an absolute downtrend, regardless of the little price bumps the trend has not been broken even once. SAR points indicate this. Started Dic 16th, 2013 and even today's data shows a bear trend.

2. The coin has burned through pretty much every weak support levels leaving behind three strong resistance points. $340, $440, and $624. The coin has spent about 8 weeks floating around these prices while burning quick though the spaces in between. The next bottom is around $200, and then $86.

3. The probabilities of heading to $86 are about the same as heading to$624, see the chart below. But the odds are in favor of heading higher to $440. Without sound historical data around these levels we are left with speculation only. So we would need to think or look for catalysts that will either drive the price down or up. I will leave the speculation to the forum to generate ideas.

4. Bitcoin's falling prices have charted a very nice pattern (or two)... One can immediately see what we call a Falling Wedge. And perhaps a Pennant. These tow resolve harshly on either direction up or down. Tracing the lines and we conclude we are almost at the end of this wedge or pennant and the price of bitcoin will resolve hard in one direction. Again, we need to look at what would cause the price to go up or fall.

5. Tracing both patterns we can generate a couple coin prices to keep an eye on the next couple weeks. We want to see a bounce of $305 if there is such  drop, and if it doesn’t hold, we want to see bounce from $252. Hopefully it doesn’t have to dive that low but it would be a great opportunity to buy coins.

6. Ok, enough of coin prices for now. MACD, a buying or selling indicator, is about to cross to indicate a buying opportunity. This has to resolve first before buying coins, unless you want to bet on a positive outcome. RSI, which indicates oversold/overbought conditions is pretty much in a very very oversold condition. In fact, on 9/29 RSI touched a level 30, which indicates greatly oversold conditions and since it has bounced. Both of these gives me an indication of a rally or at least that the coin can rally a healthy push from here.

Now, in a nutshell, the coin has one or two last support levels to bounce off $305 and $252. I, of course would be a buyer at these levels, but MACD and RSI tells me the coin is in a healthy mode to rally. Oversold is a technical state that stocks and coins don’t like and usually bounce from. So the coin may not drop that far.

At today’s level I would hold the coins we have and look for confirmation of a rally on MACD and SAR points. I would buy big on confirmation of a SAR only. MACD confirmation may indicate a small rally to $440 or even $624 before heading back down again.

And to leave with a sense of historical comparison, in 2013 the coin also created a falling wedge with a bounce around the fib line  0.764 ($69) before rallying to $1100’s. Why is this important? At today's price and on the last 6 weeks, the coin has bounced and played around $340. Which for this last rally, it is the Fib Line 0.764. The same level before the huge huge rally last year.

Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions. I’ll be more than happy to create more charts, or to share ideas on trading. Also, I would love to hear ideas on price catalysts.

The price of Bitcoin at the time of posting is $360.57 USD

*Edited in bold


  
79  Economy / Economics / Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 23, 2014, 07:23:59 AM
Hi everyone,

This is my first post on the forum and I just wanted to share some technical analysis on bitcoin price.

The price as time of posting is $358.05 USD.

Last year in December the same coin was valued at 3.24 times today's price peaking at around $1160, or close to it.

Such drops in bitcoin price are not new in the history of the coin. Almost and exact drop happened at the beginning of 2013, when some people too were calling for the end of the coin. A massive selloff from $250's to the $70's. The factor is about the same as the current drop in price at around 3.4.

Of course, a drop from a thousand USD to the hundreds will get your attention. Percentage wise they are equal. And I am sure if we go back to later years we will find similar drops.

OK, so now to the current state of the coin based data form the surge in price from Nov 2013 to today, chart weekly:

1. The coin has been on an absolute downtrend, regardless of the little price bumps the trend has not been broken even once. SAR points indicate this. Started Dic 16th, 2013 and even today's data shows a bear trend.

2. The coin has burned through pretty much every weak support levels leaving behind three strong resistance points. $340, $440, and $624. The coin has spent about 8 weeks floating around these prices while burning quick though the spaces in between. The next bottom is around $200, and then $86.

3. The probabilities of heading to $86 are about the same as heading to$624, see the chart below. But the odds are in favor of heading higher to $440. Without sound historical data around these levels we are left with speculation only. So we would need to think or look for catalysts that will either drive the price down or up. I will leave the speculation to the forum to generate ideas.

4. Bitcoin's falling prices have charted a very nice pattern (or two)... One can immediately see what we call a Falling Wedge. And perhaps a Pennant. These tow resolve harshly on either direction up or down. Tracing the lines and we conclude we are almost at the end of this wedge or pennant and the price of bitcoin will resolve hard in one direction. Again, we need to look at what would cause the price to go up or fall.

5. Tracing both patterns we can generate a couple coin prices to keep an eye on the next couple weeks. We want to see a bounce of $305 if there is such  drop, and if it doesn’t hold, we want to see bounce from $252. Hopefully it doesn’t have to dive that low but it would be a great opportunity to buy coins.

6. Ok, enough of coin prices for now. MACD, a buying or selling indicator, is about to cross to indicate a buying opportunity. This has to resolve first before buying coins, unless you want to bet on a positive outcome. RSI, which indicates oversold/overbought conditions is pretty much in a very very oversold condition. In fact, on 9/29 RSI touched a level 30, which indicates greatly oversold conditions and since it has bounced. Both of these gives me an indication of a rally or at least that the coin can rally a healthy push from here.

Now, in a nutshell, the coin has one or two last support levels to bounce off $305 and $252. I, of course would be a buyer at these levels, but MACD and RSI tells me the coin is in a healthy mode to rally. Oversold is a technical state that stocks and coins don’t like and usually bounce from. So the coin may not drop that far.

At today’s level I would hold the coins we have and look for confirmation of a rally on MACD and SAR points. I would buy big on confirmation of a SAR only. MACD confirmation may indicate a small rally to $440 or even $624 before heading back down again.

And to leave with a sense of historical comparison, in 2013 the coin also created a falling wedge with a bounce around the fib line  0.764 ($69) before rallying to $1100’s. Why is this important? At today's price and on the last 6 weeks, the coin has bounced and played around $340. Which for this last rally, it is the Fib Line 0.764. The same level before the huge huge rally last year.

Thanks, and let me know if you have any questions. I’ll be more than happy to create more charts, or to share ideas on trading. Also, I would love to hear ideas on price catalysts.

The price of Bitcoin at the time of posting is $360.57 USD

*Edited in bold


  
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