THE TEAM HAVE MADE ANOTHER BIG DUMP TODAY -35%, DEV's WILL KEEP DUMPING THIS TO ZERO BEFORE EXIT SCAMMING
Like many other shitcoins that popped up in the market. |
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hello, meawhile there were some with spare time writing scam you should have a look at our medium to get the latest updates https://medium.com/@crowdcoinpeopleAs well I would like to remind that development takes time (years, Eth was not the same in 2013). I have seen a lot of dedication in writing scam so I am expecting the same dedication in making questions about CrowdMasternode and CrowdSign our first two products. Enjoy, LP You're late, friend, This coin has already fulfilled its role of scam, and now it has died, accept this and choose another. Stop trying to resurrect the deceased. |
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nunoclix is fking annoying with is stupid comments.
an impostor trying to keep the coin's good looks. But it only convinces the newbies. who understands programming and marketing, sees that this project is nothing more than 'illicit enrichment'. Im not trying to convince anyone LOL i just report what i see in exchanges period! Impostor me? LOL great, now im an impostor lol ok i understand your point of view, i think you re an impostor too LOL No more answers cuz like others, i dont have time for kids and unproffessional traders. And don´t think you can call wharever you want to others without consequences. You know the project is a lot of: NOTHING.Like hundreds of others who were born and died and are gone. 99% of all altcoins are flawed projects, and that's one of them, Whether you want to or not. I deal with people like you since 2012, the patterns repeat themselves, I study the coin code, I study the site code, I look for information about developers, I search the photos published, everything repetitive, the fault is the same in all.For the head of those who want to make easy money at all costs tends to err on the same lines. As one saying goes "there is no perfect crime." Basically, I don't even blame you for it, you are like this because capitalism has transformed you. As an addict cannot quit an addiction, the money did the same to you. U r in crypto since 2010 ==> where is ur proof ??! if u don't have then u r scammer also  Reporting scam since 2012 ==> to whom  ! if u didn't prove then u r scammer also As u study projects and developers Do u know who is behind Monero !!! DASH was called a scam also .. do u know that Mr. being in crypto since 2010 .. If LPC a scam .. y u care ??!! just don't invest .. did anybody forced u to buy LPC ??!!! I will not waste my time with newbies. Next. |
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People know that GIN is one of the few solid projects that exist in the market, the number of MASTERNODES increases every day without stopping. |
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nunoclix is fking annoying with is stupid comments.
an impostor trying to keep the coin's good looks. But it only convinces the newbies. who understands programming and marketing, sees that this project is nothing more than 'illicit enrichment'. Im not trying to convince anyone LOL i just report what i see in exchanges period! Impostor me? LOL great, now im an impostor lol ok i understand your point of view, i think you re an impostor too LOL No more answers cuz like others, i dont have time for kids and unproffessional traders. And don´t think you can call wharever you want to others without consequences. You know the project is a lot of: NOTHING.Like hundreds of others who were born and died and are gone. 99% of all altcoins are flawed projects, and that's one of them, Whether you want to or not. I deal with people like you since 2012, the patterns repeat themselves, I study the coin code, I study the site code, I look for information about developers, I search the photos published, everything repetitive, the fault is the same in all.For the head of those who want to make easy money at all costs tends to err on the same lines. As one saying goes "there is no perfect crime." Basically, I don't even blame you for it, you are like this because capitalism has transformed you. As an addict cannot quit an addiction, the money did the same to you. |
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At $0.05 all masternodes will be profitable and generate additional 166 000 coins monthly (1462x114), and it is likely that more people will invest in nodes in a positive feedback loop similar to winter 2017.
But at some point supply will once again outnumber demand because there is an equal amount of mined coins being generated at $0.05 (160k), and mining profitability for single GPU miners breakeven at this price, which will generate even more supply.
At $0.05 (ten times present market cap), supply inflation is nearly 330 000 coins per month or $16 500. This is excluding new node operators and single GPU miners.
It is unclear what may trigger value appreciation to sustain $0.05. Multi tariff masternodes (10 000 coins instead of 1000), will make Desire profitable at $0.005 which is present market cap. Because the single miner who is hashing 220mh/s using free electricity and paid GPUs is already undercutting masternodes by a factor of ten, it is likely that he will begin cutting into profits at $0.005 (he makes $800 pure monthly profit at this level, 160 000 coins). As a result prices may depreciate 50% or more to block multi tariff supply competition.
Desire is centrally controlled by a single high output miner who entered the game in early february of 2018. He is profiting even down to $0.00075 ($125/month), and so technically the price inclusive of all immaterial value represented by indexes and exchanges and other development such as wallet coding and white paper, can drop by another 88%.
This is a single user because all coins are generated into 1 wallet. If it is a mining pool where profit is shared amongst many people, then price can easily go up ten times from $0.005. As far as I can determine, it is a single user.
Remedies to increase value includes:
1. Restricting mining rewards alot or even shutting it down entirely. This was tried by Bulwark team and it did not stop price decline with the difference that bulwark was valued at several hundred times more than DSR at the time. If mining is shut down then price will increase to $0.05 where masternodes become profitable once more, but if multi tariffs are introduced, then price will decline to $0.005 again.
2. A new bull market with increased demand for masternode coins to sustain supply inflation. It is unlikely that this can last for more than a few months, similarly to what we saw in late 2017, simply due to impossible mathmatics and the fact that DSR is one of tens of dozens of similar coins, with a low total market share and USP. If hashing power and supply generation through lots of new nodes rapidly increase free float supply towards 22 million coins then price momentum may be sustained due to reduced mining rewards. Positive feedback momentum is dependant on long term investors scooping up this supply inflation at low levels and holding the coins until price settles at much higher levels. But a high valuation should be reflected in coin development and user base. DSR is part of a generation 2017 masternodes and there is some immaterial value in this respect, which, barring supply inflation, is anywhere from $0.00075 and 50 cents but probably not lower nor higher.
3. The passage of 8 years until 2026 or a bit earlier when mining rewards dwindle. In 2023 at 30% annual mining reward reduction, coins generated through mining alone will be 2.3 daily/26 000 monthly, or $131 profit at $0.05.
For long term investors a good theorethical entry is between $0.00075 and $0.0027. As this is a high tech investment it is likely to be replaced with something more relevant within those 8 years, but there may be opportunity to profit from price momentum during this interval. The fundamental problem with current state of DSR is that coin accumulation through masternode ownership does not dilute profits from the single miner who is hashing 160 000 coins per month. And he does not have mining competition either because the ROI at $0.005 is 9 years on an equivalent mining rig (which is impossible since max supply will be reached long before that point, or rewards dwindle), which he recouperated in less than 30 days when DSR was trading around $1.
Organic growth by 2026 at 0.8 daily coins minted yields $0.1 per coin. This calculation does not take into consideration masternodes and was based on 370 daily rewards at 220 mh/s which is around 9k coins per month whereas profit in the present at $0.005 is $800 per month. I did not include masternodes because we simply have not had opportunity to observe price action without mining undercutting. If you can obtain a million coins or so at terminal levels, than its a pretty solid prospect with expected x100 over 8 years.
I think current price is good for buy as its price is too low, in fact lowest since the start and also the market cap is just 33K USD. Total supply at current is around 7 million DSR and maximum supply is going to be 22 million. I think we must do the things no other is doing as most are broken with current bear market. Often times it is difficult to calculate what is going to give more returns stake, mining or masternodes. I have bought some of Desire coins, with some pending buying orders, as I do not think its price can get below much from here. I'm waiting to reach $ 100It's gonna take a while? |
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I have tried for months now to get my masternode running... It never fails to disappoint.  There are some instructions in English, but most support is Spanish. The rejections for Invalid masternode are in English though.  What's the problem? Do you have a hot or cold wallet? Any questions we are on the Telegram. |
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Both LRM and LPC have risen dramatically today. And, demands on these two coins look very high. Demand on hell, nobody trust. False promises, SCAM. |
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When the main focus of the coin is value, you don't need a lot of intelligence to know that it's a scam.
The site is a lot of empty and false promises, and here in the forum you talk only about ROI and value.
RED FLAG
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still # 2 in CB
CB is always rocks. Yeah always great volume on cb and all other exchanges Haha, only good volume on LRM because it's washtraded and manipulated SCAM And there are people who delude themselves with "volume". |
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FUCKING SCAM!!!
FUCKING SCAM!!!
FUCKING SCAM!!! Do not get caught, this is a BIG scam !!! you can't swap your old worthless shit for the new scam coins, NOBODY will EVER profit from this coin, don't cry later you have been warned!!!FUCKING SCAM!!!
FUCKING SCAM!!!
FUCKING SCAM!!! just to remember. |
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Happy 2019 February to the moon. |
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nunoclix is fking annoying with is stupid comments.
an impostor trying to keep the coin's good looks. But it only convinces the newbies. who understands programming and marketing, sees that this project is nothing more than 'illicit enrichment'. |
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SCAM
This is best coin ever.not scam coin. lol, a bot trying to defend the coin. (scam) |
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i will post this on every page let all know that this is a scam project just to remember. Liquid Regenerative Scam |
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Fundamental Price analysis: DSR
Current Mining Hashrate: 220mh/s
Achievable with 150x RTX 2070's at unit cost of $600 (total investment cost $90 000)
1.4kh/s per card at 200w TDP
Generating 160 000 coins per month/2 million annually
Profit: $125 month/$1500 per year
Time to recoup investment based on a price of $0.00075 (0.0000002 BTC)/total market cap 22 million outstanding coins $16500: 60 years
This reflects a price devaluation of 88%
Coinexchange listing fee is $7500/2btc at current price of $3750 per bitcoin. Mercatox is valued at minimum an equal level or higher.
Price of developing this type of coin: 0.5 btc/roughly $2000 and the same for white paper.
A terminal baseline price of $16500 or $0.00075 calculated on 22 million coins, excluding immaterial value of CMC indexing and indexing with masternode websites and other third party websites. This market cap requires use of free electricity to operate x150 RTX 2070 cards at a TDP value of 30 000 watts.
It also requires that the cards were obtained free of charge (or stolen) and that the monthly profit is of such insignificance ($125) that it is only managable in a third world country or China or as a hobby which is unlikely given scale of operation. It is possible that present hashrate is generated through use of free electricty on Chinese mainland. It is unknown at what cost the GPUs were obtained.
That concludes analysis of case #1
The cheapest EU rates for Geothermal electricity is $0.035/KWH.
If present 220mh/s hashrate is generated within EU territory, there is a monthly loss of more than -$600 based on terminal $0.00075
Monthly profit with geothermal rate ($500) requires a price of 0.000002 btc or ~$0.0075 which is near the current market cap.
ROI on GPU investment is 15 years based on $0.0075 market cap/150 cards at $600 each with $6000 profit per year.
For case #2 where hashrate is generated through geothermal electricity in a western country, subsistence profit per month is calculated at $0.0075 ($500 per month profit). This yields a ROI of 15 years on a $90 000 GPU investment which is realistic.
For masternodes operating at an average monthly server cost of $4.5 price must increase by a factor of ten to break even.
Mining rewards were 19 DSR per block 10 months ago (february of 2018) and are now ~14 DSR per block.
It is unlikely that price will consistently return above $0.019 under these circumstances (or $400k total market cap calculated on max supply 22m coins). The reason being that whoever is providing this mining hashrate is already content at selling below $2400 monthly profit which is equivalent to $0.019 per coin and a regular western salary. At $0.019, the GPU roi is 3 years which is fair.
In conclusion it is equally unlikely that DSR will consistently drop below $0.00075 based on these metrics, and that everything between $0.00075 and $0.004 is a good target buy (between $125 and $600 for the person who is mining using free electricity, whereas current price around $0.005-0.0075 yields $800-1200 in monthly profit, or net +$500 at $0.0075 with geothermal expenses included).
Desire is expected to remain range bound between $0.00075 & $0.019 for a duration of 8 years based on current mining output of 2 million coins per year with 7 million already generated out of a 22 million total supply. This excludes annual block reward deflation of 30%.
With 3 year reward deflation included:
2019: 9.8/112 000 per month on 220 mh/s
2020: 6.86/78k
2021: 4.8/55k
Deflation rate of 30% will not have a significant effect on future price development, perhaps terminal baseline will increase from $0.00075 to $0.0012 or so.
Single user mining with RTX 2070 at 1450kh/s 200tdp $0.035 geothermal, break even price is $0.005 per coin. For investment purpose a 36 month roi on a $600 card requires $0.022 per coin.
tldr: $0.005 +-50% is probably terminal bottom with free GPUS and free electricity with a monthly output of 160 000 coins.
There is 1 miner who controls price by deciding where to maintain it since he is profiting down to $0.00075 per coin. He began mining in february of 2018 and probably recouperated a $90 000 GPU investment in less than 30 days of activity when price was between a dollar and 50 cents. All masternode competition is suppressed at these levels and x10 price inflation is required for them to generate break even.
So... Any chance to hit the moon again? |
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