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61  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many ways are there to earn bitcoins? on: April 07, 2017, 03:43:27 PM
I simply don't understand why people are still asking this
"earn bitcoins".

Bitcoin is money , money you can earn in all the ways possible. Some risky and some we should not mention.
If you really want bitcoin you can just work what you know to do best and with the earn yen usd euro just buy the damn bitcoins.

It would be pretty stupid to spend your time earning .1 bitcoins a month from different projects when you could do something else , earn 500 euros a month and but 0.5 btc with that.

BTC Jam and Bitlendingclub, any idea which one is more reliable? 

both are gone



Oh, god, hopeful "mastermold" will not mention them again since they are already gone, or it will mislead me and others. Thanks for your timely info.
62  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many ways are there to earn bitcoins? on: April 07, 2017, 09:20:22 AM
There are many ways for earning bitcoin
1. Create a blog, add a donation button
2.Create VLOG channel, accept Bitcoin donations
3.Sell products for Bitcoin
4.Click ads for Bitcoin - Bitclix or something, I forget
5.Gamble for Bitcoin - Betcoin
6.Find a job that pays Bitcoin - Coinality, Bitcoingigs
7.Change your current paycheck to Bitcoin - Bitwage
8.Stream video for Bitcoin (live, charge by the minute) - Streamium
9.Stream videos (not live, pay per view) -
10.Speak with local BTC ATM providers and offer promotional services for Bitcoin
11.Attend Bitcoin events
12.Trade on markets open 24 / 7
13.P2P lending- BTC Jam, Bitlendingclub

BTC Jam and Bitlendingclub, any idea which one is more reliable? 
63  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many ways are there to earn bitcoins? on: April 06, 2017, 07:24:05 PM
Trading Forex & CFD.  Smiley

From my point of view, trading forex is more risky than trading bitcoin.  Cheesy

Yes, is more risky / more profitable. Also trading BTC in lecverage is risky too

Agreed, higher risk also mean greater potential returns.
64  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: April 06, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
Is there a country that is able to control bitcoin so far?
65  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many ways are there to earn bitcoins? on: April 06, 2017, 02:55:24 PM
Trading Forex & CFD.  Smiley

From my point of view, trading forex is more risky than trading bitcoin.  Cheesy
66  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many ways are there to earn bitcoins? on: April 06, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
Recently, I've been trading bitcoins on btc-e, earning only a little, yes, very little, except the fees that btc-e takes.

Besides trading, are there any good method to earn bitcoins?   Thanks.

There are 10 major and popular methods to earn bitcoins out there!

1 - | Bitcoin Mining |
2 - | Faucet - Free Bitcoin |
3 - | PTC or PTR websites |
4 - | BitcoinTalk Signature Campaigns |
5 - | Writing for blogs and news sites |
6 - | Play games to earn Bitcoins |
7 - | Bitcoin Trading |
8 - | Bitcoin lending |
9 - | Gambling |
10 - | Bitcoin Affiliate Marketing |

Details can be found here on https://bitcoinprofit.net/info/page/earn_bitcoin
67  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Wallet+ - wallet-plus.com (1.11% - 5.55% daily for 10 to 160 days) on: October 28, 2015, 12:17:05 AM
Paid!

Quote

This is to inform you that you have just received $0.55 BitCoin payment from Wallet+.
Transaction details as below:

To: kkloken
From: Wallet+
Amount: $0.55
eCurrency: BitCoin
Payee account: 1KDr1TNHEWVXoDTa4NWmMpEvrbGMTCz6wS.
Transaction batch: d12d66bf379791d06c1402f0b0f9c6b8d74ac0ffa1eb015bc0e64c62fb5beab2.


68  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [LookHYIP.com] Paying HYIP List, Guide and Discussions on: October 25, 2015, 02:52:18 PM
Royalhash -  Their exuces are I quote "BlockChain API issues" . I made a withdrawal 2weeks ago and my balance is 0. Nothing came to my wallet and thei answered me 3days ago and when I asked them if there is a chance to get back my money they answered me with the same message.
do NOT trust them(for now) !

How much you invested?  Too much to get ignore?    Lucky that I quit Royalhash a two weeks ago and I moved my investments to Wallet+, so far it's paying like a clock.
69  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Wallet+ - wallet-plus.com (1.11% - 5.55% daily for 10 to 160 days) on: October 25, 2015, 02:38:11 PM
Another payment received, thank you to the honest admin!

Transaction details as below:

To: kkloken
From: Wallet+
Amount: $1.11
eCurrency: BitCoin
Payee account: 1KDr1TNHEWVXoDTa4NWmMpEvrbGMTCz6wS.
Transaction batch: c36bd0f4e3c909e88abc7233a9ffcb5a7c21aa642041f7106660586808596ae4.

70  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Wallet+ - wallet-plus.com (1.11% - 5.55% daily for 10 to 160 days) on: October 24, 2015, 07:27:29 PM
Paid.

To: kkloken
From: Wallet+
Amount: $1.11
eCurrency: BitCoin
Payee account: 1KDr1TNHEWVXoDTa4NWmMpEvrbGMTCz6wS.
Transaction batch: 04380d536fd51d2098aaaff35e27ecd4108cf12fc100647c1907a914989e22c8.

71  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: [UPDATED] READ BEFORE INVESTING -- PAYING, Scams, New and Saturated Sites LIST on: October 24, 2015, 03:22:26 AM
UPDATED 22 October 2015 1:04pm

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Click Here to visit Page 2 - Scam Dictionary
(all scam sites, what they look like, who to avoid)

If you have site suggestions or think someone/some site belong on Scam Dictionary then please POST!

tips: 18FjVHraAds4DUg5Zbk2PPtC5dxzq5Pphm

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hello

this thread is to notify all sites in this board. i play these hyip games very often, and i have a good understanding on how it work, who is scam, who is not.
I have play hyip for over 2 years, i know which one will last long, and as a result my investment usually result in profit.
i will post status of hyip, if i have invested, and my rating out of 10 based on risk and lifetime.
this will be the 'one stop' thread for newbie, as i was once just like you!
this can be a healthy resource for this board.
note: i am not a paid monitor, i do this so that people in this community are safe. i will not take payment for site listed here. i may place referral link, but not more than once every 5 sites. i rarely place referral link unless site is good.

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site types:
Game: Site that state that it is ponzi/they are running a game
Cloud: Cloud Mining site that state all investment go toward 'cloud mining' (90% of the time, not the case)
HYIP: Sites that promise high ROI, can last long, but can close at any time!
Faucet: Faucet games that let you pay for upgrades in return for higher faucet rates. These are known to be scams and yield very low ROI, be careful!

statuses:
New: site is less than one week old
Paying: site is over one week old and still paying users
On hold: site is experiencing issues, do not invest but not yet scam
Saturated: site is still recorded as paying, but the game is to old to pay new investors.
Scam: site is no longer paying do not invest.

My rating are based on:
- Expected lifetime
- If owner has owned site before (noticeable with site script and design)
- Plan offered (high roi, higher risk)
- Domain/Hosting type (free, drop points)
- Script (if duplicate of other site, or just html site, lower point)
all site start with 5 rating points for fairness. rating reason is all under the monitor table.

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Monitor:
Sites that you may consider investing in, go here.

Type
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Site Name
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URL
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Date Started
|
Accepted Currency
|
Investment Plan(s)
|
Affiliate Commission
|
Thread
|
Status
|
Rating
Faucet
|
Ore-Mine
||
28/08/2014
|
BTC
|
8 Levels
|
6%
||
Paying
|
7.5/10
Game
|
Crypto Pyramid
||
16/03/2015
|
BTC/DOGE
|
*Pyramid*
|
49%
||
Paying
|
6.5/10
Game
|
Iz-Nop
||
02/08/2015
|
BTC
|
130% when bank can pay
|
N/A
||
Paying
|
6/10
HYIP
|
Wallet+
||
19/09/2015
|
BTC, PM, OK, PAYEER
|
1.11%-5.55% daily
|
3 level (5%, 1%, .5%)
||
Paying
|
5.5/10
HYIP
|
Delta Investments
||
30/08/2015
|
BTC
|
Variable (usually 2%-15%)
|
N/A
||
Paying
|
5.5/10
HYIP
|
LongTermPaying
||
04/10/2015
|
BTC
|
114% Time Variable
|
3%
||
Paying
|
5/10
HYIP
|
BTC Grow
||
21/10/2015
|
BTC
|
150% in 5 Days
|
N/A
||
new
|
4.5/10
HYIP
|
Grand Rialto LTD
||
05/08/2015
|
BTC
|
2.25%-5000%
|
5%
||
Paying
|
4/10
Game
|
CryptoFate
||
07/10/2015
|
BTC
|
150% instant/30days
|
N/A
||
Paying
|
4/10
HYIP
|
CryptoBoost
||
08/10/2015
|
BTC
|
30% in 30 hours
|
10%
||
Paying
|
3.5/10
HYIP
|
Winspiral
||
05/09/2015
|
BTC
|
100 days
|
0%
||
Paying
|
3/10
HYIP
|
DoubleBot
||
20/03/2015
|
BTC
|
2x in variable time
|
12%
||
Saturated
|
3.5/10
HYIP
|
BitHourler
||
19/10/2015
|
BTC
|
2% Hourly for 100hrs
|
20%
||
New
|
2/10

Collapsed/Flee'd Admins:
Sites that have previously paid, but are now scam/gone.

Type
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Site Name
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URL
|
Date Started
|
Date Ended
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Lifetime
|
Accepted Currency
|
Investment Plan(s)
|
Affiliate Commission
|
Thread
|
Status
Faucet
|
CoinBooster
||
06/10/2015
|
22/10/2015
|
16 Days
|
BTC
|
5 levels
|
50%
||
Collapsed
HYIP
|
RobitBot
||
24/08/2015
|
21/10/2015
|
58 Days
|
BTC, PM
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14% profit in 7 days
|
2%
||
Collapsed
HYIP
|
Invest Coin
||
09/10/2015
|
20/10/2015
|
11 Days
|
BTC, PM, PAYEER
|
1.03% - 2.3% Daily
|
2 level (8%, 3%)
||
Collapsed
HYIP
|
One1 Touch
||
01/10/2015
|
20/10/2015
|
19 Days
|
BTC, PM, PAYEER
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4%-4.45% daily
|
3 level (5%, 3%, 1%)
||
Collapsed
Cloud
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Sea-Mining
||
13/10/2015
|
20/10/2015
|
7 Days
|
BTC
|
1GH/s 0.001BTC
|
N/A
||
Collapsed

Scam-Since-Launch sites:
Sites that have been scamming since their launch. (all sites before oct 20 2015 that were collapsed are also here)
[Thread] SCAM: X-Value.org - Long term ponzi has now collapsed...site is offline.
[Thread] SCAM: True2x.com - Check Scam Dictionary for info.
[Thread] SCAM: Scrypt.cc - Well known scam has stopped paying months ago, do not invest.
[Thread] SCAM: Btx2coin.com - Check Scam Dictionary for info.
[Thread] SCAM: Cointwice.in - Check Scam Dictionary for info.
[Thread] SCAM: Coinbase Investments - posing as coinbase...no website, all deposits sent to luckybit. Scam.
[Thread] SCAM: Unique-income.com - cheapest goldcoder script and free design, reported scam and not paying.
[Thread] SCAM: Wiscapital.biz - reported no longer paying.
[Thread] SCAM: PrimeDime.net - man was gambling with people money, and eventually he lose. Scam.
[Thread] SCAM: VIPdoubler.com - Check Scam Dictionary for info.
[Thread] SCAM: Btc-Pyramid.com - recently collapsed scam. Site is now offline.
[Thread] SCAM: "Double Bitcoin" - Forum based scam.

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my advise:
- BTCGrow, new hyip with unique design and script. Be careful, invest small, but looks ok.
- Bithourler, very unsustainable, but hourly is good. be careful.
- Iz-Nop fair ponzi game, do not invest to late into round, always be aware of when new round start.
- Doublebot saturated, not wise to invest
- CryptoBoost is paying, though using noncustom script. Invest in short plans if you invest, and small amounts to make sure losses aren't to large if it goes sour.
- CryptoFate is new, but eventually will become saturated or collapse. It is not sustainable even though it is a game. It is safe to invest, until 20 day mark (break even for first day loser for 5% per day). [edit- change concept mid game, be careful]
- WalletPlus is quite large in fiat investment, offering semi-stable roi. This is an ok investment, but not my most recommended. Safer than most site on the list.
- Ore-Mine been online for quite a long time, and has paid considerable amount. This could be proven to be online for a long time, or sign of soon collapse. Be careful, but could be stable investment.
- Delta Investments owned by an altcoin owner and quite trustworthy member. Could be trusted, as also gives stable ROI. No website with automatic processing lets the rating down.
- Crypto Pyramid legit pyramid site...6 month old, a bit late to enter the game, but investments still constant daily.
- LongTermPaying recovered from issues, site is now paying though be careful as usual. Small investments here recommended.
- GoldRialto LTD running on GC script but paying over 75 days...keep in small plans, invest small, and keep profit.

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Rating reason/warning section:
- BTCGrow unique script and design (plus 1 point)
- BTCGrow online for less than one week (minus 1.5 points)
- BTCGrow transparent, one address (no point change)
- CryptoBoost purchased cheap, non custom script, usually used for scams. (minus 1 point)
- CryptoBoost non-unique design, used many time (minus 0.5 points)
- Doublebot online for months (still paying), though ponzi is saturated (no point change)
- Doublebot has no design (just color text) and very basic script (minus 1.5 points)
- Doublebot admin still online and answering support (+1 point)
- Doublebot claim that all roi is made from "magic" (while justifying trading?) how still paying, do not know. (minus 2 rating point)
- CryptoFate admitted game + provably fair alogrithm (+1 point)
- CryptoFate is a ponzi that will eventually collapse, there is no plan for this time (-1 point)
- CryptoFate uses custom script and design (+1 point)
- CryptoFate changing game concept mid-game, investors losing out (minus 2 points)
- WalletPlus proven paying, 3 weeks+ old (+0.5 point rating)
- WalletPlus unique design, non custom script (minus 0.5 points)
- WalletPlus paying, no customer issues (+1 point)
- WalletPlus no admin support on bitcointalk (minus 0.5 points)
- Ore-Mine online for over a year (+1.5 points)
- Ore-Mine paid over 1000BTC and no scam reports (+2 points)
- Ore-Mine very basic script and design, minimal UI (minus 1 point)
- DeltaInvestments trustworthy admin (+1 points)
- DeltaInvestments over one month old, no scam reports (+1 points)
- DeltaInvestments no website, purely bitcointalk operated (minus 0.5 points)
- Iz-nop successfully paid two rounds no issue (plus 1 point)
- Iz-nop using non-custom, publicly available script (minus 1 point)
- Iz-nop admin active on bitcointalk, no scam reports (plus 1 point)
- Crypto Pyramid admin active and responds to support (+1 point)
- Crypto Pyramid online for over 6 month, proven legit (+1 point)
- Crypto Pyramid no consumer complaints (+0.5 points)
- LongTermPaying online for more than two weeks and recovered from issues (plus 1 point)
- LongTermPaying ponzi-structured, even though promised long term. Be careful. (minus 1 point)
- LongTermPaying plain design, simple script (no point change)
- BitHourler using default design straight from online nulled site (minus 1 point)
- BitHourler promising extremely unsustainable affiliate commission and ROI (minus 1 point)
- BitHourler semi-active admin, new site less than one week old (minus 1 point)
- Grand Rialto no active admin, using GC script (minus 1 point)
- Grand Rialto paying for over 75 days (plus 1 point)
- Grand Rialto offering extremely unsustainable 5k% plan (minus 1 point)
- Winspiral paying over a month (plus 1 point)
- Winspiral extremely long term plan (minus 1 point)
- Winspiral very plain, non custom layout (minus 1 point)

Just received daily payment from Wallet+. 
72  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Wallet+ - wallet-plus.com (1.11% - 5.55% daily for 10 to 160 days) on: October 24, 2015, 03:14:13 AM
Paid again, thank you.

Quote

To: kkloken
From: Wallet+
Amount: $1.11
eCurrency: BitCoin
Payee account: 1KDr1TNHEWVXoDTa4NWmMpEvrbGMTCz6wS.
Transaction batch: e7a5db5fa704a9a7cd60aa84225d4bc3d025c9a1c49e5d3ac12c3cf40599e51c.


73  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Wallet+ - wallet-plus.com (1.11% - 5.55% daily for 10 to 160 days) on: October 22, 2015, 01:25:41 PM
Transaction details as below:

To: kkloken
From: Wallet+
Amount: $0.55
eCurrency: BitCoin
Payee account: 1KDr1TNHEWVXoDTa4NWmMpEvrbGMTCz6wS.
Transaction batch: 22d4a3fbafe9ac842ff9c88c73c2132cdd936b1c70ffd3922a94ae8f0cc8985d.


New payment received, thanks.
74  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Wallet+ - wallet-plus.com (1.11% - 5.55% daily for 10 to 160 days) on: October 21, 2015, 04:31:34 PM
The amount of 0.5 USD has been deposited to your Perfect Money account.
Accounts: U9707807->U9197207.
Memo: API Payment. Payment to kkloken from wallet-plus.com..
Date: 11:36 15.10.15.
Batch: 105398250.

To: kkloken
From: Wallet+
Amount: $0.50
eCurrency: Perfectmoney
Payee account: U9197207.
Transaction batch: 105398250.

To: kkloken
From: Wallet+
Amount: $1.00
eCurrency: BitCoin
Payee account: 1KDr1TNHEWVXoDTa4NWmMpEvrbGMTCz6wS.
Transaction batch: fcba4f1fb4b4ffb230b452af7451fdd780647c0474b80004699ccf64e0d0b9ab.

https://blockchain.info/tx/fcba4f1fb4b4ffb230b452af7451fdd780647c0474b80004699ccf64e0d0b9ab

Thanks for paying fast.
75  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: Wallet+ - wallet-plus.com (1.11% - 5.55% daily for 10 to 160 days) on: October 21, 2015, 06:12:37 AM
BTC daily payment received, thank you.


To: kkloken
From: Wallet+
Amount: $1.11
eCurrency: BitCoin
Payee account: 1KDr1TNHEWVXoDTa4NWmMpEvrbGMTCz6wS.
Transaction batch: 48c78370ec67a24a9a34c799524933b343b56966b8c5b1f863033c1e20222d04.

76  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Bitcoin better that fiat? on: October 20, 2015, 04:54:15 PM
Because bitcoin means freedom.
77  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN the PORN and GAMBLING future? on: October 20, 2015, 04:53:02 PM
Bitcoin is great for porn and sex toy sites.
78  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How long did it take you to make 1 BTC? on: October 20, 2015, 04:51:28 PM
I started when the bubble just took off.  It took me roughly about 3 months to get 1 BTC without purchasing anything.  Not the fastest method but I am still trying to find new ways to earn coins everyday.

Can you please share with us your methods to earn 1 BTC in 3months without purchasing anything ?
This sounds great and interesting

Maybe he's investing to HYIP.
79  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Use cases. What do you actually use Bitcoin for? on: October 20, 2015, 04:46:58 PM
For online shopping and investing.
80  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you feel about the negative reputation of the bitcoin currency? on: October 20, 2015, 04:44:48 PM
It's normal, you know, each coin has two sides.
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