I actually got so angry that I opened up my own pool.  It's nothing fancy and I'm not offering crazy promotions or promises.  Straight up BTC mining.  Anybody who wants to can mine on it.  So far, it's only me.  Every now and then I'll rent some hash and throw it at it to see if I get lucky - after all, I found that block on the scammer's pool.

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As I already implied, the software is full of 64bit maths and that will produce a noticeable difference, as will having double the registers in general code.

... and you will find that 5 year old link quite outdated now ... comments about not everyone having 64bit processors and "fewer issues" with 32bit are now wrong.
It's the other way around, fewer issues with 64bit and I'm not sure you can even find 32bit processors online any more.
If you can, you've been given old dodgy hardware.

Now the most relevant point ... if you want to run a pool, and you are trying to skimp on hardware, be well aware that you may lose blocks.
You need a bitcoind, and running one on a small vps is a problem waiting to happen.

I'm really not sure how a 32bit OS can be more efficient on 64bit hardware ...

Edit: ... and I'll add that mining requires 64bit math quite a bit ... since 4billion really isn't a big enough number
So all that code would be slower.

The answer is I don't care so I've not bothered to make sure the code is fine on 32bit architectures and I don't want to care. You have your priorities wrong if you are worried about that on a pool.

32bit processor? There's no 32 bit support in ckpool code.

so .anto. 

why not point the  2 u3's to ck's solo pool? hope for a huge hit on a block.

or why not mine on bitminter.com?

 I think he lets you pick a 0.01 payout which is 2 weeks.

And sorry I was going offer you a free S1 I have sitting here collecting dust if you wanted to pay the shipping on it. But the cost of shipping over to Vienna, Austria even at snail mail would still not give you a reward for a very long time if any, if it where to break at some point in time.

As I previously read I think you mining with only 100ghs correct? May I ask why? Also where are you located? I may have a deal for you if you are in the us. To get you a little more ghs. if you are in the US leave your zipcode and I will post my offer for you here.

Payout method has no bearing on the percentage of hash rate you contribute to finding a block.  Both scenarios above are correct for any payout system.  The different payout systems just distribute the payouts differently to discourage pool hopping.


Variable diff has no bearing on your percentage of hash rate you contribute.  The variable difficulty is ONLY to decrease the amount of network bandwidth required and to decrease the load on the pool.

Yep on my pool your dust only shows in your account.
(payments under 0.00010000)
I've not sent any yet to anyone (but one person long ago) since the pool started.
I imagine there may be a few miners with as much as $1 or $2 worth of dust not sent.

As I've said, one day ... in a galaxy far far away ... I'll add accounting to the web site and thus the unpaid balances will be correctly identified and it will know which have been sent and haven't been sent.
Then I'll sort out a way to send the dust ... which poses a problem coz sending dust on it's own costs more than the dust.
Merging it into current miners payouts will not be a problem I don't think.
I'll probably have to push the other dust transactions into our blocks and solve it that way.

What was your question about dust payout?  I missed that.

Ok... let me see if I can break this down for you in a way you'll be able to get .

For the sake of this argument, we're going to assume there are 2 pools.  Pool 1 has 10,000 miners each with 100GH/s.  Pool 2 has 2 miners, one with 999.9TH/s and the other with 100GH/s.  We are also going to assume that each pool finds exactly 1 block a day, and the reward is exactly 25BTC per block.

When a block is found on pool 1, the pool must divide that 25BTC into 10,000 parts.  Therefore, each miner gets 0.0025BTC
When a block is found on pool 2, the pool must divide that 25BTC into 2 parts.  The miner with 999.9TH/s gets 24.9975BTC.  The miner with 100GH/s gets 0.0025BTC.

They are both equal.  Payout thresholds are completely irrelevant.  It doesn't matter how you break it down, 100GH/s expects to earn exactly the same coin on pool 1 and pool 2.

I get what he is saying, but he is taking it out of context for one. Yea if you would have mined on the other pools you could have maybe made more if they found blocks during your 7 day trail period. Just like if Kano would have found more block you would have made some more at kano's pools and you cant take two differnt types of pool pay outs and pin them against one other. I have mined at kano's pool and I mine at a couple of others. I do know if I stay at kano's pool I would make more in the long run if his pool was finding blocks just as fast as the other pools. Since his pool is smaller compared to others your reward will be bigger than say if you mined at eligius pool.

Lets say you were mining with 1.5 ths like me. If Kano's pool finds a block I make roughly .01 and some change per block. If I take the same speed and mine at Eligius pool I make roughly around .003 per block. Now since Eligius pool finds more blocks per day than kano's pool it will most likely equal out to around .009 per day versus .01 from one block at Kano's.

But here is the downside to that. If Kano's pool has longer block and it takes two day to find one. Then I am still only getting .01 for that one block. Or even if it take 7 days to get that one block I am still only getting .01 currently. but since kano's pools pays on 5n my share will keep getting paid on the next couple of blocks if they are found with in the 5n range. So my earnings at kano's so shares could be paid out over 5 times. So my earnings will still keep trickleing even after I stop mining. As long as blocks are still found.

This does not happen at lets say eliguis. If I mine at eligius for the same amount of time and we only find 1 block just like kano's my share or earnsing will still only be .003 but if they find more like they do my earns per day could reach the .01 or in my incase .009. But If I turn my miners to another pool my earns drop off almost instantly after about 3 hours. This means my shares I have submitted stop making money and I do not have any more trickling in.  

For me to reach payout on eligiuis I have to mine almost 4 day straight non stop If they find enough blocks for me to reach payout some times it is longer and sometime it is shorter all depending on the luck of the pool finding block.

I completely forgot where I was going with this. But in the end it is all about how you like to mine. Do you like to receive one big payout that may or may not have more earning trickling in over time or receive a bunch of smaller rewards till you reach payout that will stop almost instantaneous once you stop mining.

I love Kano's pool I really do. I would have my miners on his pool now but I am trying something different just to get a feel on how other systems work. After trying various differnt pools I do like Kano's the best. I just hate how long it takes to find a block some times which has nothing to do how his pools payouts out but only by the speed of his pool and luck.

And why the hell did you include Nexious scammer @SS pool into this mix. It has nothing to do with how Kano's pool operates or any one esles pool for that matter. Nexious was a scammer from the beginning. His pool found one block and he ran off with the reward and didnt pay his Miners. Kano's pool has never don't that has built huge amounts of trust within the community. The verbal war between pools only amounts to the lack of knowledge that surrounds the pool operates that comes from noobs like you that have no clue on how mining accurately works. You most likely went to bitcoin profitability calculator punched in some number and it said you are supposed ot make this much per day per week per month. I would love for some one to show me any where that works 100% of the time. So I can join on that trained. because the profit only amounts to the luck of the pool finding blocks.

I am far from a expert in pools and mining. But have come to realize who knows there stuff and who doesn't. Kano's for one Knows his stuff inside and out.

Capitalism works and has worked every time it has been tried.  Everyone in the US asserts control over the economy and every one could take part in the Political process if they chose to.  It is very sad that so many choose to not participate in it and/or are ignorant to how it works.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.  So you think the people who spent thousands of dollars on modern and high speed equipment shouldn't get paid more than the people running 2-year old bargain bin ASICs and/or GPUs?  This isn't elementary school where just participating will get you credit.

I think you're missing the point here.  Small time miners get small time payouts - no matter what you may wish to happen.  You simply aren't going to get a bigger slice of the pie unless you get more hash.  Let's say you do start some kind of pool with an upper limit on hashing power.  So, you've got a pool with 10000 miners each having 100GH/s.  Do you somehow think that you, as one of those 100GH/s users is somehow going to make more than you would as the same user on a pool that has 2 miners, one has 999.9TH/s and you, with 100GH/s?  The simple answer is you are going to make the same.

You are hoping for the impossible.

That's not Proportional payout system.  That is Communism.  Nobody here will take part in such an unfair payout scheme.  Everyone wants to be paid for the work they do not to subsidize lower hash rate miners.

Every single pool that uses difficulties greater than 1 (AKA: all of them) multiplies your share submissions by your difficulty.  So yes, you'll submit 4 times more work at 128 diff, but it would be the same payment as somebody submitting a single piece of work at 512.  Minimum difficulty has zero effect on your payout over any reasonable period of time.

Go have a chat with Nexious, Im sure he will be able to help.