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61  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where Will It Go If The Money Comes From Illegal Source on: May 10, 2024, 03:23:10 PM
Is it legal for casinos to keep the money?

I don't think they can keep the money, they have to inform a law enforcement agency of their findings and turn the money over to them... I'm sure the laws and procedures vary by jurisdiction, but if they just keep the money they took from a player, that's theft.
And if they report it, the player himself should probably get in trouble, an authority should investigate him and see what the person is actually doing. And if everything is in order, a player/person can file a complaint and they should return the money that the casino took from him.

But is this also the case with crypto casinos? I'm not sure and I believe that not all casinos are honest and fair to their players... unfortunately, the crypto gambling space is still the wild west and there are a lot of strange things going on.


62  Economy / Gambling / Re: TonPoker - Telegram Poker Room on: May 10, 2024, 08:48:58 AM
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I think that it shows the interest of the members. It is just fashion - telegram bots, ton... It isn`t interesting for the most part of the poker players. I don`t see any reason to change pokerstars(for example) for something uncomfortable. And i even don`t talking about bugs and strange prices of cryptocurrencies.

I agree with you, I doubt that any player will replace Pokerstars (or any other stronger poker site) for Telegram poker. Especially if that poker has only cash tables... And definitely low interest from the members shows what people generally think about Telegram casinos and poker bots. But that's understandable, we can't compare Telegram poker bots with poker sites, they can't come close to them in any way. The appearance itself, the selection of games, the number of players... it's a long list of what poker bots lack to become more interesting for serious poker players.
63  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: May 09, 2024, 08:22:00 PM
some anonymous interview with the winners, of course if they are in the mood for such a thing.

The winners of huge money will never want to come in public, reveal themselves and have an interview of them. Gamblers usually like to remain hidden regardless of the fact that they have to do the KYC etc on the site. Still people, especially those who won a large amount from gambling site will never want to come in public as that can lead to a lot of complications to their personal lives.

I completely understand what you wish to say UmerIdrees, that's why I wrote "anonymous interview". I don't even think they need to reveal themselves. I guess they can ask the winner to answer some questions in the email, completely anonymous of course, if they want to... their freebitco.in ID is public anyway. So they could do this interview, and I am sure that would be an interesting reading for many of us. After all, winning a Lambo is not a little thing, and wagering/buying so many Lambo tickets is even more interesting for many of us.
64  Economy / Economics / Re: Money is all wealth? on: May 09, 2024, 07:06:16 PM
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I don't know how accurate my words are but to me it seems right now in this situation.

Welcome to the real world, cash rules everything around. It's simple, with money everything is easier and everything is much easier to reach... even if something doesn't work, with money it's easy to lubricate (I hope it's the right term) and find a solution. There is a proverb: "If you can't solve a problem with money, you can solve it with a lot of money".

But not everything is so simple in this world, after all, money (or wealth) cannot buy everything, simply said some things are not for sale. Money can make some things easier, but still, if someone is "stupid" he is stupid both with money and without money... it's the same for some people who are unfortunately sick and cannot be cured by all the money in the world.

Like with many other things I guess, it's hard when you don't have it, it's hard when you have it too much... being moderate in life is hard, but when people achieve that they don't need too much of anything to be really happy and fulfilled.
65  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲BetFury.io| 🔥Sign up on BetFury | 🤑Get Welcome Bonus up to 590% + 225 FS on: May 09, 2024, 05:58:24 PM
Unless BFG token is listed on a new good exchange, it can't generate new hype...

And when was the old hype? This is the millionth time in this thread that someone has brought up the BFG token listing and how it will affect the price... you people are living in an illusion. BFG can be listed in all exchanges at once and nothing special will happen, this token is not created for some mass usage or I don't know what. It's a casino token with a few staking options and that's it, and if you ask people who are not gamblers they would never choose this option, there are many other better and safer options for staking.

Betfury casino has really stepped up and made an amazing place to play with lots of options on the site itself, and as long as Betfury lasts so will the BFG token. I think many people here expect too much from this token, it can bring some nice rewards on the site, but I doubt we will see the price of BFG rise.
66  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Peoples expectations about casinos free spins on: May 09, 2024, 01:59:42 PM
What do you guys think that free spins are supposed to be like?

Have you ever used free spin to make money? At least a noticeable amount and withdraw it?

What about you ? How do you feel about about free spins?

2-3 times I managed to withdraw from free spins, in 9 years... Usually, we don't win anything from free spins, or it's something so small and not worthy. Maybe once in 20 times we get lucky and hit the bonus round (or some big win) that gives us some nice balance for playing. But after that, we still have wagering requirements... and it's not simple to finish them only by playing slots. Don't forget that some casinos have max withdrawal amount from free spins (which is a stupid rule).

Free spins are interesting, we turn them on and play and that's it. Most of the time we don't get anything from it, but as I said sometimes we catch some nice winnings and we can play, and if we are really lucky we might get away with some profit.
67  Economy / Gambling / Re: What are your expectations for Casino coins in this coming bull run? on: May 08, 2024, 08:51:57 PM
I don't have great expectations regards casinos' tokens anymore. The bull market has come, but its impact didn't reach these tokens. I've been an active FUN token investor, but it's just not reacting as expected from a bullish season time. Personally, I wouldn't invest on any of them right now. There are more profitable alternatives of cryptocurrencies to adopt right now with less risks of deception in the end.

I agree with you, casino tokens have been stagnant for a long time, and even this bull market didn't help, so I doubt that will change in the future. I am not optimistic about their growth either, I even think that some casino tokens around will lose in price, which already happening with some tokens.

Investing in casino tokens is not so interesting anymore... I guess playing for them (mining through wagering) is a different story, but those who are only thinking about investing (without playing) should consider other options, there are many and most of them seem like a much better choice.
68  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recommended slot game provider for newbie on: May 08, 2024, 06:59:45 PM
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I think Play’n Go is the best provider for newbie. I still doesn’t explore on other provider but anyone knew other providers that offer same payout frequency with Play’n Go?

There is no best provider for newbies! All you need to know about slots is how to choose the bet size, if there are additional features you can explore them in the information about the slot itself. In most cases, additional features are charged extra.

There are really many providers, and each provider has many slots. Be free and try any provider/slot you like, look at the pictures and names of the slots and click on the ones you like, spin a few times, and see if you like it. If you don't like it you can always switch to another one...

And no one can tell you whether you will be lucky or not with a certain provider/slot. From experience and discussions with other players, you will understand that some providers/slots are lucky for some, while they are totally unlucky for many others. It is up to us to try, and whether we will get anything is a big question... so relax, and deposit what you can afford to lose. Play with some minimal stakes and be free to try different providers and slots and maybe you will be lucky enough to hit a bonus round and some big payout from that. Good luck!
69  Economy / Gambling / Re: COINS.GAME | THE MOST REWARDING CRYPTO CASINO | SPORTSBOOK & CASINO on: May 08, 2024, 04:44:49 PM
I have not played any casino or card games. Only sportsbetting

Most probably you are accused of doing arbitrage betting since it’s the only violation that is related to what the support accused you. Sadly it’s very hard to win a case like this especially from a casino that has a dead support already here in the forum.

You can check this issue on casinoguru https://casino.guru/coins-game-casino-player-s-winnings-confiscated-and about same complaint but coins.game never cooperate to answer the issue. It’s painful but there’s nothing you can do about this.

Someone has already shared this complaint, so some of us from here are already familiar with this case. This is a different story... this guy played only casino games, while Elegigglebets bet only on sports. Anyway, it doesn't look good when casino decide to close players accounts and confiscating the deposits and profits they made without any discussion. Looks like they just do it and they don't answer to anyone...

After reviewing this complaint once again, I noticed that Coins.Game no longer accepts players from Serbia, that was not the case just a month or two ago. However, I logged into the site and placed a bet on Real VS Bayern tonight. They are probably waiting for me to take some bigger profit and ban me too.



70  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you disguise on your real gambling lifestyle just to help a friend/relative? on: May 08, 2024, 08:12:52 AM
I don't give advice to anyone not just gambling but anything cause no one really gives attention to what we say until they learn the lesson by themselves, so stop wasting time by doing things which is not going to make any change. I do have a bad side so does everyone, once in a while it may go out of control but as long as it doesn't affect me or anyone that I care then it is completely fine.

I agree with you, people generally don't like to listen to other people's advice, everyone has their own way of thinking. It can be said that we are all like that and only when something bad happens to us do we learn from it. For sure we all have "bad sides" and "bad things" that happen to us from time to time, and we alone learn how to deal with them... with more experience, we know how to avoid them or in some cases how to hide them from others. Self-control is something we get along the way.

I am generally not good at disguising, I will say what's on my mind, if not I will turn around and walk away. It's not smart to talk with everyone, no matter how we say it, some people will misunderstand us. So sometimes it's better to keep quiet and mind our own business.
71  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Stake F1 Team on: May 07, 2024, 08:40:46 PM
I have been playing casino/slots for years and I think the provider that offers the highest multiplier is No limit City with multipliers up to x300000 but in fact I was wrong, I just realized that Stake.com with inhouse games offers crazy multipliers over 2,000,000 multipliers on the Mines game. last week one of the users in the chat room posted it and he won a multiplier x2,022,545 and I was even more surprised to find out that this was not the highest record because the highest record is x5,148,300 yeah maybe this is the max win because 3 users got it.

The max multiplier in the mines game is indeed the x5,148,300, it can be hit by playing with 13 mines and 12 diamonds or vice versa.
I do even believe there are more than 3 users who have hit it, what is shown under the lucky wins is limited to 3 users only.
The list is only for the latest one but it means that there is no one hit the max multiplier since February 2021.
I tried it a lot in the past with so small bet amount but no luck, my best multiplier was 49,031x IIRC but of course the bet amount was really small.
Maybe you can try it by risking $10 to hunt the max multiplier but with tiny base bet, who knows that you will be lucky enough to win few hundred/thousands dollar?  Grin


I have seen people playing mines/limbo and chasing big multipliers, it takes nerves of steel for that. I admit I can't do that, after getting to some higher multi I always cash out, I simply don't have the nerves to push more... and patience I guess. I usually start raising my bets after too many losses and almost always I get in situations where I need to cash out and win something or lose everything.

Kudos to the people who could play these games and chase max wins or something close to that. I can't imagine myself playing mines and chasing the max multi with a $10 bet... I would probably cash out after 4-5 hits if I last that long.



72  Economy / Gambling / Re: TonPoker - Telegram Poker Room on: May 07, 2024, 06:41:59 PM
!!! FREEROLL !!!

On May 12th (Sunday) at 20.00 CET there will be exclusive freeroll for BitCoinTalk forum. The prize pool is $100.

Registration by link

Nice promotion, and for a free roll it's a nice prize pool. For now, there are just 4 of us who registered, but I think there is enough time for others to join. It will be interesting, we haven't had a poker game on the forum for a long time, so I guess it will be fun to play with some people again. Good luck to everyone.

Many people like to play tournaments more than cash games, it's totally different. So if you want to make a serious poker site, you need a good tournament offer with some guaranteed prize like many other poker sites.
73  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is more regulation coming to online gambling? on: May 07, 2024, 05:36:28 PM
Will casinos be forced to create their own slot and live games? And perhaps even bring workers abroad to run them without legal consequence? What do you think?

Casinos will never be forced to make their own games, it is an option that exists, some casinos can opt for if they want to have their own original games, which is often the case with crypto casinos. I doubt any casino will "import" workers for any casino jobs, I don't see why any casino would.

Regarding the title, I think that some new laws will come, or some old ones will be strengthened in some way. In any case, it will not affect all online casinos, it will all depend on many factors: where the casino is registered, in which countries it operates, what games it offers... and as always, the bigger a casino is and in more countries they wish to operate legally they will have to obey some rules.

I guess it's hard to predict what regulations are coming, that's something we'll have to wait and see what happens. Everyone has their own opinion, but I believe there will be surprises.
74  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Aviator games on: May 06, 2024, 08:11:10 PM
Why don't we talk about aviator games here? It looks like the least played casino game. I don't understand it is there anyone who plays it and what's it like? I have watched YouTube videos on it, but still don't get how it works. And the conversations here about it is scanty.

Well, why don't you get into the fire and try it? For most aviator games (aviator games are usually third-party) the min bet is $0.1-$1, and if you try some original crash game you can play it with some really minimal amounts like 0.0000001 of any coin you have. Same game, different animation...
and if you are in the process of learning maybe you should try crash game in some crypto casino with original games before you jump into fire with some higher bets.

I wouldn't agree that it's the least played casino game... many people enjoy this type of game, if you check some of the biggest crypto casinos their crash games are very popular and many people play them.

Good luck! Just be careful and try to exit before the "crash". Smiley
75  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between females and males, who are more resistant to gambling losses?  on: May 06, 2024, 06:32:45 PM
Which gender will get worse when they are addicted to gambling? 

Or do you think it's the same thing for every gender that is into gambling? 

What is your view? 

If I compare myself and my wife, I'm the one who can lose more and probably get into more trouble because of gambling...she's a much calmer person and knows better with money than I do.

But this is not a question of gender, looking at some documentaries some women have strayed a lot, and for them, the addiction is much more difficult in a way because they face much more condemnation from the community than men.

There is no rule here, both men and women can get too deep into gambling and it can easily turn into more serious problems.  What pushes someone deep is already a matter of psychology, maybe close people who deal with it, maybe some desire in the person that makes him play more and more, who can tell without looking at a specific person and knowing many factors.

I wouldn't bother much with that, after all, everyone has to take care of themselves and their loved ones first and foremost. We know many factors, and what is more important, we can influence someone much more than just with words.
76  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: May 06, 2024, 04:53:17 PM
Its a good idea to have the customer service but also I guess the model is the faucet and simply run bets etc.  not quite the same as other casinos with a more premium based game setup.   Its best for everyone if queries are answered etc.

If my maths is right 34,688 tickets even though it sounds alot for winning 3 BTC is not a bad return on the likely cost of the tickets.    My guess of a possible low ticket amount winning is sadly not the case this time though I still believe its possible.

34k is an impressive number of tickets, and if this user earned these tickets by wagering, kudos to him! He certainly participated in most of the promotions, and I know that this Lambo draw lasts for 6 months, but still, this is an incredible number of tickets; therefore, we can assume that this user had a crazy time.

It might be interesting if Freebitco.in did some anonymous interview with the winners, of course if they are in the mood for such a thing. I would like to hear a few words from him, maybe a winner could share his experience, whether he is in profit after 6 months of gambling like this, and whether he will do it again.
77  Economy / Economics / Re: Not your keys not your funds Banks on: May 06, 2024, 08:05:08 AM
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But i feel that crypto and cash are real money the bank balance on my bank account i feel little sceptical yes banks are safe but still i need that feeling that at least some of my funds are under my own control.

You have control over the cash and crypto... as far as the money we keep in the bank, we have control as well, but not total. The bank can limit/deny our access to that money if they think there is a reason for doing so. Of course, it doesn't happen that often and it doesn't happen everywhere, but there have been cases in the world (especially during the coronavirus).

Well, it's simple actually... banks are the "middleman", a third-party service, and with crypto, the need for that "third-party service" is eliminated. We can store/keep coins, we can move them as we like, and wherever we like, we can adjust fees, so basically we can do alone most things that banks do.
78  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 BC.GAME - CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK | $1,000 GIVEAWAY LIVE! 🔥🔥🔥 on: May 05, 2024, 07:47:21 PM
This is not true. I provided them with my social, which is another form of id here, my expired passport, my drivers license, they just want me to provide an ACTIVE [passport. Thats the only thing they are accepting.

Ideally, no platform would accept an expired document for KYC verification, it's not done anywhere. My advice is that if you've a huge amount on BC.Game, get a new passport, verify your account and withdraw your funds, but if the amount is not much, perhaps you may want to forfeit it. But next time, try not to get yourself entangled in similar situation, always read the casino's ToS before sign up.

Well, I don't want to sound like a smart ass here, but if the passport is invalid no one will take it into account, it's just not a valid document and that's it. What Sokani suggests is more than smart, it shouldn't be a problem to get a valid passport if everything is in order, the process takes from a week to a little more (depending on the country), and when you finish that just provide new documents.

Today, every casino has the right to request different documents for KYC verification. There are indeed different cases, and certainly, some casinos ask for too much, but attaching an expired document is really out of the question.
79  Economy / Gambling / Re: Poker bot profiles on: May 05, 2024, 06:41:43 PM
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Why would someone buy a bot profile? I am just curious. If a real player is not in a table then where is the excitement of the game? Is it even allowed to use bot?

For the same reason people buy trading bots... they think the bot can make more money than they can. And perhaps an even stronger reason is that the bot can do this for a longer period. There's no excitement of the game, there's only a wish to make some profit and that's it.

This guy is selling bots from some site for much less than what is advertised, maybe it's just a trick, either way, it's hard to believe any ads about bots making a profit in any way. At least I find it hard to believe that there is a poker bot that makes a profit, as always if it was really like that whoever made it would make an unlimited profit for themselves. He wouldn't just sell the scheme to others and risk them all getting caught... Bottom line, OP is making a profit by selling bots, those who buy it and use it are at a loss.
80  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think casinos can stop demanding KYC? on: May 05, 2024, 09:52:45 AM
What do you think? Do you think some casino's will revert back to non-KYC and allow money launderers, plus other fraudulent people have their easy way with them as a way to attract customers, or since they recognize the personal benefits of KYC to their casino, will continue demanding it even if it affects their customers?

Like many other forum members I think there is no going back as well, casinos that have introduced mandatory KYC will continue down that path. The good thing is that there are still casinos without this requirement so we can still play in many casinos that don't have mandatory KYC. So the question is which is the next big crypto casino to introduce mandatory KYC... the bigger the casino is with more players from all over the world, the more obligations they have to different countries.

I doubt we will ever see a casino that is totally KYC-free again. Maybe that's the case with some casinos that only accept Monero or another coin, but as far as Bitcoin is concerned, almost every casino is regulated by a license and that means they have to abide by certain rules or they can suffer the consequences.

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