and again the completly retarded dumped down in denial bitcoinmarket is suspended in the air as Wiley Coyote again..... The insiders sold out long ago at Gox....and still the suckers refuse to get the Memo  |
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Miss Whale should be easily identified, if somebody only would be interested in a criminal investigation of the trading and Fiat account records...
The existance of the entity of Mr. X will prove itself then by the selling off of bitcoin to under a hundred bucks when the recent manipulation ends !
GTFO
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Only a person who wants to end up destitute would obtain Bitcoins. Sending Bitcoin to someone is the antithesis of love, it is a kiss of trouble and woe in the future. I am very sad about this. I had high hopes for decentralized currency. Unfortunately, unless we can perfect widespread anonymity then this entire decentralized currency concept is dead in the future. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486872.msg5413937#msg5413937You should realize that this means all BTC you own and all the gains you accrue can be clawed back from you in the future. Theft of BTC is very widespread even without the exchanges and with the Mt.Gox fiasco (and more to come because the government + banks can bankrupt all the exchanges with regulations, fines, placing holds on funds, etc, or even send in secret agencies to steal the keys).
For those readers trying to rationalize away the contract between accounts holders and Mt.Gox, you have no legal standing. Bitcoin is not legal tender. So many governments have spoken on this already and declared it to be a commodity. Clearly we are looking at a big legal mess with Bitcoin which the government is going to have to solve holistically. Now you see I was correct from the very beginning in Bitcoin : The Digital Kill Switch.All you Bitcoin millionaires are going to be Bitcoin jailbirds and destitute.For those who are rationalizing away the chain of ownership (I explained upthread) due to that the lack of physical nature to Bitcoin, you don't have any chance of winning that argument. If it wasn't owned, it wouldn't have value that can be exchanged. Even if we are trading fungible tokens in a pool, the tokens are still owned. Cripes, are you guys totally ingenuous or ignorant.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486872.msg5414095#msg5414095Oh, bold and red font.. Must be legit.
Continue to ignore it please. I will be watching all Bitards fall into the abyss together when the mess comes to the point that you can't find any one to buy your coins, yet you are liable for all the clawback amount.
Mansions will be confiscated. Paddy rides to debtors prison will be ensue when you can't pay.
Failure to understand Bitcoin will indeed cost investors billions. 744,408 BTC stolen (nearly 7% of total mined coins to date) and some people seem to be cheering like this is a good thing because they don’t like (long despised) MtGox. This is far far from over. Where did those stolen coins go? Well check your wallet because they were likely fed back to the markets. If you have been buying bitcoins on any exchange chances are you have some of the stolen loot yourself. These stolen coins can be traced back to their true owner in a direct chain of title thanks to the block chain. If you don’t think this matters you don’t understand the legal system and the principle of Nemo dat quod non habet Under both American and English law the original owner of stolen property can demand ownership be returned to him if he can prove a chain of title (something the blockchain conveniently provides). The only recourse for an innocent buyer of stolen goods (and only in some jurisdictions) is to argue the exchange it was bought from had an implied warranty and he can try to sue the exchange after returning the coins to the true owner. MtGox is insolvent good luck there. BTC-e is run by anonymous folks think they will stick around in the face of massive lawsuits? But cheer up there is still a chance most MtGox victims will get their coins back. The threat of massive unending lawsuits targeting innocent bitcoin buyers is an existential one for bitcoin. The 10-15 early adopters stand (by far) to lose the most if bitcoin goes down in flames. They might actually decide to buy out MtGox for the 744,408 bitcoins (an amount grossly exceeding the worth of the company) not because they are altruistic people, but because the chain of lawsuits that would follow if they don't act may hurt their holdings more than the loss of 744,408 bitcoins. It’s a lot of money, however, so its likely a difficult call for them. Regardless expect all future exchanges to require both rigorous identity checks prior to buying and selling as well as fine print stating that anyone who supplies coins to a market is ultimately responsible in the event those coins are determined to be “black” or stolen goods in the future. Still think there is no need for truly anonymous cryptocurrency? Serious problem for Bitcoin now: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486872.msg5407521#msg5407521
More: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486872.msg5408045#msg5408045I hope readers can start to comprehend why coin taint is the most serious Achilles heel of Bitcoin.
On Friday, 2 BTC were stolen from me. I am considering reporting this to law enforcement. This means that anyone who receives BTC which derives from my stolen 2 BTC will be liable to return them back to me.
Perhaps the thief pushed them through a mixer such as Bigcoinfog.com
Thus that mixer will be liable to provide records. If it can't, then it will be liable for the 2 BTC.
So you can't you see you are playing with fire by mixing your coins through a centralized mixer.
And can't you see that without widespread anonymity (and decentralized mixers!), then crypto-currency is absolutely useless except to a government which wants a ledger from hell to track everything. Well, why don't you sell all your bitcoins to me right away get your beloved cash, close your Bitcointalk account and hit the road? I actually don't know what you look to achieve with a post like this but whatever it is failed!!!! OMG Bitcoin failed? all will be sold to other people??...may you tell your mother to sell as well??? |
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I´m all in BTC, lets go down now like always :|
if you got them out of bitstamp as one of the first.......just watch the show as they have the gox primium already against huobi  |
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Really fighting with me if I should buy now (80% of my safements) or not. Made the wrong decision @400´s and will not make another wrong one with buying or not buying.
Are you going all in? Yeah all in, that cash is now waiting for 6-8 weeks on stamp to transfered into bitcoins and I missed the good oportunities. yep..every single charts tells you break - out ...BUY-BUY-BUY.... I only don´t know what for?  |
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Really fighting with me if I should buy now (80% of my safements) or not. Made the wrong decision @400´s and will not make another wrong one with buying or not buying.
Are you going all in? |
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What an incredible day!
Amen and good night  .....don´t forget to sell the break - out !  |
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Why did hackers stole 750.000 Bitcoins only from MTgox and did not touch any other exchanges?
What is Karpeles doing at the moment? Can he get out of Japan or is he "arrested" to Japan?
Does somebody know this?
I´m still sure Karpeles stole that coins and say hackers did that. Can he go to jail for the insolvency? or is it really so easy to open up an exchange, let people invest millions and then shut it down? I mean, easy way to get rich!?
They stole bitcoin to buy more dogecoin. Karp is swimming in dogecoins. We all know this. Yes, it is easy to build an exchange and steal from customers. I can build you an exchange for the low price of 10,000btc. I know that sounds like a lot, but think about how much you will make over time. Srsly Never watched the dogecoin charts and I´m not sure if you are serious about this or not!? I and a lot of people have coins on stamp too and I´m worried that stamp could do the same as gox some day. Even though they are at a leading position at the moment. You guys seriously think another exchange could have the same problems as Gox? It's coming out now that it was well known Mark was neglecting the code. He had plenty of warnings from people who know what they are talking about. Also, Gox has been sending out a warning beacon since November when fiat withdrawals problems were getting out of control, you will see the same signs with another exchange too. Learn from your mistakes, don't wish the same misfortune on other people. The most plausible stories about what happened includes MK knowingly trying to drag this thing out since about 2011.. hoping that he would earn back coins that he had lost in 2011 (nearly 1 million coins). Accordingly, by the time late 2013 came, MK was utilizing bots and self-dealing with investor coins and well manipulating the whole situation in order to attempt to recover lost coins from 2011.. that he was NEVER able to make up. OMG..yep very unluckily the poor guy even couldn´t make his pockets whole by halting withdrawls and accepting millions of deposits cause the bug would be fixed in no time.... even TBF said so while selling and the dollars went off-shore! DUDE your plausabilities suck big time |
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Why did hackers stole 750.000 Bitcoins only from MTgox and did not touch any other exchanges?
What is Karpeles doing at the moment? Can he get out of Japan or is he "arrested" to Japan?
Does somebody know this?
I´m still sure Karpeles stole that coins and say hackers did that. Can he go to jail for the insolvency? or is it really so easy to open up an exchange, let people invest millions and then shut it down? I mean, easy way to get rich!?
They stole bitcoin to buy more dogecoin. Karp is swimming in dogecoins. We all know this. Yes, it is easy to build an exchange and steal from customers. I can build you an exchange for the low price of 10,000btc. I know that sounds like a lot, but think about how much you will make over time. Srsly Never watched the dogecoin charts and I´m not sure if you are serious about this or not!? I and a lot of people have coins on stamp too and I´m worried that stamp could do the same as gox some day. Even though they are at a leading position at the moment. everyone not running for creditors protection and a keyboard for the cat to sleep on would be really a fool.....half a billion is half billion...the laywers agree |
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It's Blockchain problem. Transaction was delayed but it just went through, though it still says no confirmations on Blockchain.
We had the same block. Stamp withdrawal to BTC-e? What are you trading? I was thinking 75% PPC and 25% LTC. Yes, Stamp to Btc-e. I bought some PPC, LTC and XPM but sent BTC there mainly for LTC if it drops. you never will be there to late as LTC got apparently hasked again |
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didn´t bitcoin.info and Karpeles always worked together at the same announcing of announcement page.....and happens when the lead whale crashes on the shore??
all wallets empty ...I guess ! |
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didn´t bitcoin.info and Karpeles always worked together at the same announcing of announcement page.....and happens when the lead whale crashes on the shore??
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OMG ..the whale lies dead on the beach ...his sonar fucked up...everybody else is off- shore long ago..deep storage anyone?
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Almost 50 minutes since the last block. No wonder you didn't get a confirmation yet.
Hm only 4 blocks the last 2h. And over 4000 transactions are waiting. The last 6 blocks had a average of 932 transactions... 90 minutes here without single confirmation. you guys really should learn how bitcoin works, check the blockchain NO NEW BLOCKS YET - it happens. Thanks for clearing that up. We all had no idea. blockchain corrupted, DDosed ?? bear market confirmed? huge crash ahead? |
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what is the guy who dumped the 10K BTC was buying back and that was that whale ? and 1 hour since last block  Blockchain.info is kaput. Blocks are coming in just fine. Oh you are right. We are now at 288780 malleability ?? will complain at bitstamp cause it just reached BFX but if its still not confirmed in the blockchain.info......here we go |
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Breaking News: Mark Karpeles bought Bitstamp!!!
and got to operate the blockchain and its adresses as well ??---- the guy is really a genius making out like a bandit |
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One hour and not a single confirmation. Bullshit.
bitstamp ? is it? me too ! only 2 hours already |
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OMG we will get completly fucked by those exchanges at the mercy of TBF..GTFO!
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Bear market is over
We'll see. get your stashes out of cold storage now and sell em urgently before all of the TBF will sell the shit to crumps now.....cause daddy Loozik knows where they have hidden the loot ! you absolutly need to take your blinders away now...its over and out ! |
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