Nope, no evidence whatsoever. No ASIC has ever been made for anything. Your alarm clock is a lie.

ASIC done before. SHA done before. Sure, it's difficult and time consuming to produce the product in question, but anyone thinking it's impossible has no idea what the fuck they're talking about. If you think the idea of a bitcoin ASIC is a scam, you're goddamn delusional.

Didn't look at the price nor do I know the actual value, but many eBay sellers will edit their listings to add an extra digit to the price while they wait for more stock. That way, if someone is dumb enough to buy it for 10x the cost, it's worth the hassle of an angry customer complaining about wait times. Also, they avoid additional fees from canceling and re-listing auctions.

That's one way to skin a horse.

How many orders did you have? By my count, you've cancelled one every other week for the last 2 months.

Anddddd....bASIC announces delays. Can we get 40,000 threads accusing them of lying to their customers now?

Oh, and I noticed some threads deleted on BCT in the last few days. No mention of how these forums are in China?

Got it, only BFL does wrong. Don't forget to use the word "asshamster" as you continually fixate on one company.

I THOUGHT THIS WAS 'MURICA!

What's the opposite reason of why you post the same garbage over and over?

You know what I would want on my official forums for a product I'm selling? 6,000 copies of the same goddamn question so nobody can find any actual discussion.

Nevermind, that's what these forums are for. Now wait 3 hours and ask about shipping dates again.

The only announcement from any company that will get me excited is someone announcing an actual shipment date. I could care less about a hashing power increase, especially when the rest of the announcement simply reads "we don't have any work done at all."

I'd have gladly taken a 20GH device 3 months ago over a 70GH device 2 months from now.

Competition is good. Everybody wins.

However, this announcement essentially includes the statement "we actually have nothing done whatsoever." So until both companies actually deliver, there will be no benefits.

Every single person that has actually asked for a refund has received it.

And for the millionth time, the "end of January delivery" quote is if you ordered now. Way to copy and paste only what you felt like instead of the actual quote and context. Get a job in politics.

Every thread in 'mining' is suffering from this garbage.

And in response to whatever ridiculous failure of comprehension follows my posts: read my fucking post again. You're missing something, and probably on purpose. I'm not wasting any more time expanding my explanations to fend off illiteracy.

EDIT FOR REPETITION AND WASTING TIME:
I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if bASIC delivers first, but even if they do, the statement that BFL has shown more evidence is STILL CORRECT.

Way to cut out the evidence I was talking about, then ask what evidence I was talking about. Where are any pictures of anything from bASIC? Neither company has shown a working prototype.



Do I really even have to address this? I didn't imply ANYTHING to the contrary.



This was implied, but not directly noted in my post.



Let's try again: where did I say BFL has a working device? I specifically stated that neither company has proven that they have a working prototype. How is everyone missing this? I don't know what's up with the facility inspection, but they have provided photos of the building and equipment. I think they said something about not letting anyone in until the facility is up and running, which is pretty pointless (remember to ignore I said that when replying). The populated PCB has dummy chips. BFL has publicly acknowledged this several times.

So, I'll repeat: based on EVIDENCE, BFL is winning. Creativex brings the only valid point to the table out of any of this drivel, in that BFL has a history of delays. That should be factored in with the other evidence. Is there something I missed in the evidence list for bASIC that somehow catapults them to the front?

Let me phrase this a different way that I'm sure will be avoided: HAS BASIC PROVIDED ANY PHYSICAL EVIDENCE? RENDERS? PICTURES OF ASIC DEVICES OR CIRCUIT BOARDS? PRODUCTION EQUIPMENT OR INVENTORY? HAVE THEY PROVIDED ANYTHING AT ALL BESIDES WORDS?

I wouldn't be surprised AT ALL if bASIC delivers first, but even if they do, the statement that BFL has shown more evidence is STILL CORRECT.

Well, I was going to say their history of delays, but you're free to phrase it your own way.

Good sweet lord, you people have problems with reading comprehension.

I continually have to repeat that anyone expecting a device from BFL in October didn't do their research on the subject, and therefore their opinion doesn't matter anyway.

bASIC: photos of an office space and moving boxes, and a claim that a prototype exists but no actual proof

BFL: renders of device, renders of PCB, photos of actual populated PCB, photos of actual cases, photos of assembly equipment verified to be theirs, photos of $100K worth of power supplies for mini-rigs, but verified to not have a working prototype as of about 6 weeks ago

No proof that either have chips in hand yet. No proof that either have working prototypes. Based on the provided evidence, I say BFL wins the race. Based on promises alone, bASIC wins.

So, let me get this straight. BFL is constantly harassed over every little detail. Meanwhile, on the other side of the aisle, bASIC fans are currently in a whirlwind of excitement simply because Tom didn't screw up some standard clerical work with his invoices?