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Why didn't BFL just answer the questions when they first came up instead of giving an obviously bullshit answeR?
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$5 USD for the whole lot?
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Can i take the manufacturing job, since you don't want it? Union jobs are awesome.
I don't suppose you could just disappear, pirate style. That makes the most sense.
Yeah, we still haven't seen anyone get jailtime for stealing bitcoins. Pulling out a fiat loan sounds like a fast-track ticket to jailtime. |
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It was an experiment that failed. People didn't like the script so I scrapped it. I don't find anything wrong with it but others did and I will respect that.
Personally, stealing offends my sensibilities, coming from me or others.
Seek professional help. Immediately. Here's some classic Atlas for your amusement:  I haven't laughed so hard at a satirical depiction of myself in a long time. |
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You are MNW and what you done has done more negative effect on the community
than atlas and his suicide note Nope. I am not MNW. Guess again. Matthew's in Korea. I'm not. who would care if atlas troll was swinging from a rope really ?
If I knew his locale, I'd do him the courtesy of calling the local EMS. That's about it. (*edit* to be honest I thought that Atlas and MNW were having a gay lover's quarrel for the longest time, but then MNW started his "child modelling" business) |
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(Atlas, OTOH, has not done a damn thing of value that I can think of.)
I managed to delete over 10,000 Bitcoins in 2009. You're welcome. You also posted a suicide note on the internet. |
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You're talking about people who think a ponzi isn't a scam if they tell you up front it's a ponzi. Why? Because bitcoin.
*cough* what?
scam/skam/
Noun: A dishonest scheme; a fraud.
Verb: Swindle.
If someone is honest and totally up front about how they will distribute everyone's money, clearly stating that new deposits will be used to pay the profits of older account holders, how is that being dishonest? The whole reason ponzis are scams is because people who operate them don't tell anyone they are running ponzis. Or are your definitions only valid when applied however you want them to, because SA goons? Funny, but how many of the "insured" schemes continued to pay out after the ponzi chain dried up? For example: hashking |
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Please forgive my noobish ignorance... but I would never give BTC to a user with the name "pirate."  You'd think some of these quys would be smarter then that! You're talking about people who think a ponzi isn't a scam if they tell you up front it's a ponzi. Why? Because bitcoin. |
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Escrow, aka "reversible transactions."
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So many people seem absolutely convinced that MNW has gone over to the Dark Side. However, I saw his "facebook" youtube video, and it reinforces my conviction that he was just doing an epic prank for the betterment of the community.
Can you please explain to me how siding with pirateat40, starting a bet to shut up all the people spreading FUD about ponzi's, and taking attention away from all the real scammers, betters the community? Please? Ya know, I don't actually believe he was siding with pirate, at least not with any formal agreement or meaningful arrangement. It certainly hooked a lot of foolish fish though. Did you not read the OP of the bet, or the many discussions with him afterwards? He plainly stated that he was sick of "Team Ponzi" spreading FUD and attacking these HYIP businesses as ponzis without proof. The whole bet was "if you believe they are a ponzi, put your money where your mouth is," and at first, many of those who "bet" did so not to make a quick buck, but to make their point, which was that they believed BTCS&T was a scam. Maybe we were reading or understanding something differently *shrug* How many people in "team ponzi" took that bet, 100% expecting it to be a real wager, "scouts honor?" How many people would buy this bridge I've got to sell? |
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Because you sound like Matthew to me.
 Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not in Korea taking lascivious pictures of schoolgirls. I also have better grammar.  Well, maybe I'm wrong but that's exactly how I would have expected Matt to respond. Even that's ok I guess. Someone needs to fill the master troll shoes eventually to keep this place lively. I just wish Matt would return as himself and keep answering these butthurt scam-targets, at least until the new fall TV season really takes off. ROTFL Yeah... Breaking Bad is on hiatus. Damn. I think the thing we got to ask ourselves is what can be done on the technical side and if such changes can be patched in with the consensus of the developers. There are plenty of solutions already proposed with minimal storage requirements and full compatibility, like the third party signed transactions proposal.
We should not get to the point where the fear of change by existing investors hinders innovation.
So... you're asking for reversible bitcoin transactions? |
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So many people seem absolutely convinced that MNW has gone over to the Dark Side. However, I saw his "facebook" youtube video, and it reinforces my conviction that he was just doing an epic prank for the betterment of the community.
Can you please explain to me how siding with pirateat40, starting a bet to shut up all the people spreading FUD about ponzi's, and taking attention away from all the real scammers, betters the community? Please? Ya know, I don't actually believe he was siding with pirate, at least not with any formal agreement or meaningful arrangement. It certainly hooked a lot of foolish fish though. |
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Clues for the Clueless Volume XXII
1) Matt is a minor and can't legally sign a contract
2) Matt had not visible means of repayment
3) Matt is a jocular, arguably immature fellow who likes to make his points via escalation
4) NO ESCROW (yes I am screaming that)
Need I go on?
As I recall he's a legal adult by any international standard. I'd say "manchild" is an apt description. The rest of your list is completely true and on-point. |
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I think that if someone loses lots of coins to a hack that they had no business keeping in a hotwallet, there ought to be an outright PRESUMPTION of an inside job.
I keep seeing thread titles, "How come exchanges haven't learned their lesson with cold storage?" The answer is, of course they have, they just stole the coins and are trying to milk that excuse as long as they can while people are still apparently willing to believe it.
AND, inside job or not, they need to be held accountable for every coin lost, 100%. |
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PPT operators are requested to get one for example.
Also Zhou, and Intersango are due, same with the "not really a PPT" investments that turned around and invested in Pirate (hashking, nckrazze). Heck, even Bruce Wagner still hasn't received a scammer tag. |
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Are you the same guy who was accusing "team ponzi" of not understanding "investment liquidity" and spreading "pirate FUD"?
Congratulations on answering your own question, and in the affirmative to boot. I haven't seen an ad hominem strawman get tackled like that since the 1984 Superbowl! But all that has nothing to do with the fact that Matt's "bet" was obviously a 100% trollish prank and people were saying so all along, only to be ignored by the gambling addicts. OK. So first you defended pirate and now you're defending MNW. ad hominem reasoning is only a fallacy if its irrelevant to the issue. and its only a strawman if i misrepresent your position. I only quoted you to see if I could establish a pattern. Since you provide no reasoning that met's bet was "obviously a 100% trollish prank", there's no logic to argue with. If I read his posts correctly (with heavy sarcasm) then I don't believe he's defending MNW or pirate. Rather he's openly mocking the gullibility of the people who invested or bet. |
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Because you sound like Matthew to me.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm not in Korea taking lascivious pictures of schoolgirls. I also have better grammar. |
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Gareth's probably right on Fraud, but the most valuable thing you lose is credibility. Even when everyone is anonymous, you don't poo where you eat so to speak.
What do you mean? How do you have accountability or credibility with complete anonymity? I'm sorry but bitcoin history does not agree with your assertion - nckrazze started a PPT and lied about it being a PPT with only two week's investment in the forums. How many accounts has Atlas had, again? Who the fuck are you really? That's an awful lot of correct old specific knowledge for someone with 17 posts. Let me guess, you have been lurking for 2 1/2 years and finally decided to start posting. LOL Lurking but not for two and a half years. God no. My day job kept me far too busy to actively participate so I've been a spectator till now. Besides, if the references are true and the points are the same, why does it matter who I am in an anonymous internet forum around an anonymous crypto-currency? Huh? |
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Gareth's probably right on Fraud, but the most valuable thing you lose is credibility. Even when everyone is anonymous, you don't poo where you eat so to speak.
What do you mean? How do you have accountability or credibility with complete anonymity? I'm sorry but bitcoin history does not agree with your assertion - nckrazze started a PPT and lied about it being a PPT with only two week's investment in the forums. How many accounts has Atlas had, again? By not being completely anonymous - giving large sums of money to people who are completely anonymous is a bad idea, even if you have the technology to do so. Okay, so people have confirmed (in their minds, and I agree) that pirate is "Trendon Shavers". What now? |
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Think of it this way please: IF PIRATE HAD PAID, THEN MNW WOULD HAVE STOLEN NEARLY A MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
What's the point of an impossible hypothetical? Haven't you seen the interest calculations against Pirate's outstanding debts? It's impossible for pirate to pay it all back. |
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